My K4 is about 5 years old and going strong. Like many people, I ditched the lethally dangerous Karcher hose (kinked like mad and was a battle to coil it back up). Got a 15m hose and MTM SGS35 stubby gun and AutoGlym foam cannon. My K4 is in the garage and is permanently plugged in and attached to a dedicated tap via a short length of feeder hose. So I don’t have to move the machine at all.
Great video Dave years ago when I bought my K3 it was the salesman at Halfords told me no one brings back K3 however he has more K4 returns than anything else in his shop, it’s also worth mentioning that the K4 Classic that replaces the Compact now uses the cheaper and unreliable universal motor instead of the induction motors in the full sized model.
I think those stats on the k4s being returned more is a result of probabilities as they sell tens of thousands more so definitely makes sense. I think classic is an awful name for a new model. Classic karcher We're terrible back in the day
Bought a K4 during Covid lockdown and it’s still going strong. The supplied hose is too short, rigid and virtually unusable especially in winter when there’s no outside heat to make it a bit more malleable. So that got replaced with a longer, more flexible hose. Plus I’ve got a QR spray gun and proper snowfoam lances. So for car cleaning I’m set, but that’s because I spent extra money where needed. But for patio/driveway/outdoor cleaning I just use the supplied lances and they’re fine.
Couldn’t wait to retire my K4 for my AVA Smart P50, even though the price and specs are very similar. The K4 biggest let down was definitely its hose, which was both short and kinked nearly every time I used it and if it didn’t, then it would when curling up to store away. Now I’ve bought an additional steel reinforced 12m extension to the paltry original 6m it’s perfect, as I can do both cars without moving either. I feel the K4 is great for stonework, and garden furniture. But it’s out of its depth washing cars.
I run a K2 that i have upgraded to use after market attachments and hoses. I’m coming up to 10 years as a professional detailer and I’m only on my 2nd K2. Not bad for a $AUD149 machine. I just don’t see the value in the expensive ones. I did buy a 2400psi Ryobi after my first K2 died, but it weighs 3 to 4 times as much as the K2. I use it primarily for around the house stuff so i can keep the K2 for the important stuff. FYI, I’ve tested my K2 as per what I have seen on IMJOSHV and it’s running about 1100psi and 1.2 GPM. Keep the great stuff coming Dave. Lloyd
Thank you for this. I acquired mine about 8 years ago from a friend who never really used it. It was a replacement to my old one, which was cylindrical, with the hose and cable wrapped around either side (sorry, I can't recall the model). My K4 has never really been problematic apart from, as you say, the short and plasticy hose. I'm planning to fit a better, longer one and fit a reel on the rear handle part from one of my old pressure washers.
Great honest review, I have had a Kärcher K4 for over 6 years it has been brilliant for cleaning patios to the car, yes the snow foam is a bit of a let for the car. But a reliable machine. Keep up the great car detailing tip videos.👊🏻👍🏻
Yes definitely. Nilfisk don't get enough credit. They have an excellence 180 now with a digital screen on the washer. Looks interesting to say the least
Have a k4, had no choice, had to send my mrs to get something there and then and she rang me and told me what was in stock. Was a nightmare as i was mid way through details. Ive got a 15m hose and a quick release gun so they got attached straight away. 3 weeks in now and it seems ok. But the hose it came with was a joke. Not having a way of coiling up is also very annoying. Lets see how it lasts. Def be trying out something else next. Great video. Loving the content. Best on the tube. Hoping for some cutting and polishing videos.
Thanks Alex yes got so many videos to release. I upload certain videos at certain times depending on what feedback I get so I'll get something out on here soon
Thanks for that - as useful video just as I am thinking of buying one. Going to go the refurbished route. I have bought things like washing machines and tumble driers via this route at good reduced prices and they have been utterly reliable.
Honestly refurbished machines are the way forward. I had a nilfisk p180 that was a refurb but don't keep pressure washers long enough as I have to keep up with filming new washers
Everytime I see a karcher now, it I dont interest me after buying the Ava p80. You recommended me the Ava and was the best decision I made for a pressure washer. Thank you mate!
I've had k4 full control for about 3or 4 years now. Only thing I would say is upgrade the high pressure hose, I got a 20 m length from pressure washer parts UK. The hose is way softer and never kinks. For cleaning the car it's a stubby gun and foam lance from the same place. Other than that no issues at all.
Had my K4 for a little over a year after upgrading from a K2 that I’d had for almost 10 years I think, upgraded the hose to 15m flexi hose from DIrectHoses, MTM STG35 stubby gun (awesome) mjjc S v3 foam cannon and all connections 1/4 inch quick connect. Not had a single issue at all, the only thing that bugs me about is the I wish the water inlet was on the back and that the handle had a lock option so it could be locked in the up position, I may find a way to do that anyway so I can add a holder for the coiled hose.
@@epicautomotivedetailing not sure if it would or better or worse but it would definitely look neater than the hose connected at the front. It would likely work no different for me as the K4 itself stays where its positioned during a wash, it’s just that it’s always at an angle because the hose comes in the same side as the pressure line feeds out.
Got my K4 full control from the karcher outlet few years ago cost me like 99 quid and was pretty much brand new not a mark on it. Also that hole on the front left is meant for the pressure hose to come through which is very handy when you have the premium model which does have a hose reel its like 190 on karcher outlet currently
Karcher outlet is really good. They use ultrasonic cleaners and the machines come out spot on and what makes them great is they are tested by real humans not robots after inspection so they actually leave their facility in better condition than new
My K4 compact finally let go after 10 years of weekly use cleaning cars, motorbikes and mountain bikes. Unfortunately, because I was in a bit of a budget bind since the car is going into the body shop, so I had to settle for the K3 horizontal, since I was able to pick it up for £90 delivered. Most of negative points of the stock product have been negated by having an upgraded 15m rubber hose and an MJJC foam cannon running through a stubby gun. I just hope that the K3 would still be able to deliver on performance for weekendly activities. Definitely didn't have the budget at this time for an Ava. I'm presuming the performance will still be sufficient for its duty cycle.
@@epicautomotivedetailing I'm looking forward to your honest review on this Dave. Your reviews are usually brutally honest and impartial. My worry is that the pump might not have the head for a 15m hose. Was quite happy with the foam and dwell I got with the K4 with the nice weather we've had the last 2 weeks. It might be buyer's remorse, but we shall see. It was the same price as a refurbised K2.
Great entry level washer but I’d advise spending more if you do a lot of cleaning. I opted for Karcher to start off with - did the job and I ran it into the ground before upgrading. Great video.
Switched the hose out for a longer no kink blue hose from direct hoses and added a short trigger gun with various nozzles which makes the karcher way better imho
I have the K4 power control which has a hose reel attached. The OE hose is toilet, so I changed it for a much longer, and better hose from direct hoses. I don’t have to move the K4 at all, and can get round the whole car with ease.
I bought a K4, but being the first pressure washer I've used I can't really compare to others. However I have seen on forums that the component to upgrade is the hose to something longer and more cooperative.
For the price it just needs a little tweak or an upgrade to be worth it. At the moment based on price the Easy P57 is the one to beat providing they really get their act together with customer service
Personally I own the Karcher K4 power control , this came with a hose reel. I have not had any issues what so ever the last year. Thus ofc, I upgraded the gun and the hose. But the water hose inlet I havent had any issues either.
I upgraded to an k4 after my k2 broke..owned for 4 years now. I bought myself a 15m hose from amazon it feels much better quality than the karcher one and so much easier
Great video Dave, I have a mixed experience with the Karcher refurbished products. A K5 pressure washer that is still going strong after 2 1/2 years of use. But I also bought a wet and dry vac that lasted just a few months before detonating.
@epicautomotivedetailing it was also a Karcher, bought from their store. It detonated in month 7, and when I checked the website, it only came with a six month warranty..
My k4 failed one month after 2 year warranty. They have since changed to a 3 year and wanted £180 to repair it......only after some length conversations and raising issue with the warranty has been extended on a new buy but same spec they helped but was hard work.
Had a K4 for four years very well looked after, frost free, using a 15m flexi hose and it has gradually lost its pressure to the point it no longer works. I wouldnt advise using anymore than a 10m hose. I will go for an Ava now.
I brought my k4 two years ago and not had any problems only one snow foam canon is crap .had to buy better quality one . Just remember to register it with Karcher warranty team. Don't buy one from halfords it's not same quality as one in B&Q plus it's £30 cheaper
Ah man just had a look on the outlet for a K4 and it's like £110. Bargain Just checked which model Karcher I have and it's a K4 anyway ! Not sure on other opinions but I feel mine doesn't have enough power. Rocking a decent hose and gun too so not that.
I’m probably not comparing like with like but I bought a Karcher HD 5/12 C years ago. In that time it’s broken twice. I was willing to buy a new machine but my local Karcher agent recommended they had a look at it rather than buy a new machine. Apparently it only needed new capacitor, so I had it repaired. I did think the repair was costly but felt I had little choice as the machine worked perfectly well. If it does break I will probably have a look at the Ava range you’ve spoken so highly of because I thought the Karcher snow cannon was not very good.
Depends on usage. You may have been just unlucky. Ive had the 5/12 , 6/13 and the 7125 back in the day and they got used to every day. My 7125 is now with my friend and its ticking over perfectly.
I got a k4 6 months ago been using it quite regularly cleaning my and my family and friends cars... ive accidently become a valetter... i got a 15m hose for it and a stubby trigger... i use the mjjc snow foam cannon with it and i have to say the k4 has been great... its downfalls for me is u just need to buy the addons to make it the total package yourself
I have a K4 that i use for my valeting business, so it gets used often. I got one originally from halfords and after a week or so of using it the hose would fire off from the pressure washer end..it was dangerous and very frustrating! I ran the water through to avoid air locks, but it kicked the hose of regardless, i took it back to halfords, at which point they just gave me a replacement one with basically no questions asked! It can't be a good sign😂 However, the one i got it replaced with has a longer, more durable hose! So maybe they've listened? It's kicked the hose off once so far, so im hoping that was a one-off! All in all, I'd probably avoid buying this and spend a little extra on a better brand
Thats the exact one i have and the day after its first use i bought a 25m hose and stubby gun with matching snow foam gun, then it was good to go and not a issue since
@@epicautomotivedetailing yes I use it about 4x a week at least as I am a competent amateur detailer so not afraid to try new things as everyday is a schoolday, and some of the tips I have found on your channel have been a game changer
Wicked video! I've literally just started up cleaning myself and bought one of these as they're really easy to get hold of. It's a great bit of kit for the money , But my god is that hose soo annoying.. Constantly coil's up and not long enough, Spend a lot of time trying to untangle and pack it away properly. Secondly the snow foam bottle is stupidly annoying to get used to the amount of time's i've accidently pressed the button fitting it to the handle and the bottle just falling on the floor losing product is unreal. Bad design by karcher that one! It's a great lightweight bit of kit for not an awful lot of money. Definitely following to see what upgrades you do because they sure need a better hose and snow foam bottle design..
@@epicautomotivedetailing Look forward to watching it mate! You’ve massively inspired me to get washing and detailing cars , Love all your content and hardworking keep it up mate 👍🏻
Look forward to the upgrade video - I’ve had a k2 for a little while now, just worried on the longevity as the parts feel so plasticky. I changed the hose to a 10m more flexible hose which was a game changer
Yes the long term reliability is always going to be questionable. So most manufacturers aim for 2000 hours of life then it's time to say goodbye so for domestic use on the odd weekend they will all last a fair few years
I didn't know about the fact that we should get water through the machine before using it in order to get rid of any air pockets , I am sure I didn't do that when I got my Nilfisk e150 😢 hopefully I didn't compromise the aluminium pump! I did register so I have extended warranty for 5years ... I just didn't know about that but it makes total sense
@@Carlos_Teixeira_Drums its always best to do it but understand not everyone would be too bothered. Ill be honest i can't say i honestly do this everytime
Have a k4, had no choice, had to send my mrs to get something there and then and she rang me and told me what was in stock. Was a nightmare as i was mid way through details. Ive got a 15m hose and a quick release gun so they got attached straight away. 3 weeks in now and it seems ok. But the hose it came with was a joke. Not having a way of coiling up is also very annoying. Lets see how it lasts. Def be trying out something else next.
I have a karcher and nothing has really changed with its offering. I’m looking forward to trying a man AVA cause I feel these are the best out there. The hose reel is spot on. Even when I bought a replacement for the one that came with the pressure washer, and there’s absolutely nowhere to store it. Rubbish on that front. I’m just plodding along regarding mine, just waiting to get an ACA which is more versatile and they know what the budding retailer or professional wants. The hose reel. The light trigger. Accessories. AVA is a great proposition. Karcher have lost their way. If you’re not happy with the proposition that karcher have now and I’ve had mine for years and you’re still mentioning the same things, then really they really need to have a common sense rethink on what their devices are for. Not just rehash the same thing like blackberry. They’ll become extinct and be out of the sector they’ve worked so hard to build over the years.
Stubby guns are good in the sense of being quick and easy to change accessories with. I still prefer longer lances as it's less movement on the body which as you get older is beneficial to avoid crouching all the time
I recently bought a K4 Power Control with the home kit. First thing I upgraded was the hose, to a 10m one from Direct Hoses, far better quality. The T5 Racer that came with it has green nozzles fitted, and I am not sure if the grey nozzles are better? I was planning on using it to softly clean my Tarmac driveway, but quite a few people have told me not to do that?
Had a K4 'Full control' - reasonably well used, started leaking at just under 3 years old. The adjustable Lance is a waste of time and money. The hose is garbage. So spent about £100 on upgrades. Replace it with an Ava Smart P60 (£300) that is simply miles better in features, design and performance. Great for cars and household stuff, and takes Karcher attachments
Hiya. Honestly the Ava easy p57 is my favourite based on price, features and dare I say it reliability. It's a newer model with newer components that actually hadn't ever failed in my time of owning it. The 12m hose is perfect for what I need but still occasionally coils up
@@epicautomotivedetailing I must say I have looked at up grades but I am thinking of buying another P57 they are so easy to use and now I’m use to it. I did consider the Evo but the cable would be a deal breaker. I think 12 metres is enough for the flexihose also, thanks for your reply.
No thanks Dave i will stick with my AVA as its the nuts!! 👌🏻👍🏻 But I was interested in the patio cleaner on the table what was that & can you use that on an AVA if its any good as my AVA patio cleaner is shite!!😬
Hiya Dave, sorry just to clarify the only reason I've featured this karcher on the channel is because it's the best seller across the UK and Europe so I was curious to find out why. I actually have a few new pressure washers coming to the channel which I'm pretty sure not many people will be aware of even existing over here so looking forward to featuring them
@@epicautomotivedetailing No worries dave but what i was asking was about the karcher patio cleaner is it any good as my AVA patio cleaner is Shite!!😬👍🏻
Hi there, I'm new to the channel but I like it :) I'm researching a new pressure washer as I need an upgrade from my previous k2 compact (nothing wrong with it, going strong for over 5-6 years, I'm amazed as it's like a plastic toy 🤣) looking at ava ones but they are 200 quid more expensive that karcher ones here in Poland, sooo... I'm looking intensely at k7 compact as I HATE to have the application on my mobile for anything washing related 😒 hope the pressure is a big upgrade as the price is like 7x more than the k2 compact...
@@epicautomotivedetailing Wow thank you for the fast anwser! I will look into it, but i think this model is unavalible here in Poland! Cheers though and great work! I will watch all your pressure washing vids!
I am after buying a pressure washer which can be used every 10 days or so for cleaning mine and partners cars but don’t know what to go for. Would probably spend up to £350, what would you suggest buying?
I am looking to upgrade my pressure washer and have a budget of £550 and narrowed it down to 2 machines. As a man that has no doubt used both machines I could do with your honest opinion on which one you would recommend. Nilfisk Premium 200-15 or the Ava P80 Evolution. Pros for the Nilfisk, extra power and longer hose length. Pros for the AVA, longer warranty and slightly cheaper.
I've had a k4 for the past 2 years and tbh it's great for it's purpose for now, which is cleaning my personal vehicles on the weekend, as I'm a professional detailer the rest of the week 🤣 Not the best but fair for most jobs, specially detailing, however I've changed everything besides the machine itself, short gun, bigger hose (10m) and lots of acessories to fit the short 1/4 quick connect gun. The original Karcher acessories, wand etc. Just wasn't good for me, too big too bulky.
Thanks for your comment. Sounds great I do see a lot of people on facebook groups use these for detailing as a side hustle with custom hoses etc. Interesting to hear more feedback from people who use them daily
Quick question. Not pressure washer related but I am currently using power maxed ceramic ultra seal and I am considering getting the AVA seal and shine. Would you class both of these to be similar products?
I haven't used power maxed, in my last video on the Citroen I tried some Ava products. The seal and shine is very good and will see you through the month
Hello I have already featured the Nilfisk core 125, 130 & 140 along with the P180. I also have the excellence 170 coming to the channel along with the core 150 very soon so plenty more coming :)
I have the K4 and have recently purchased the AVA Premium Snow Cannon after watching your review. I was also looking at the AVA Pro Force gun, do you think this would be a good upgrade for the K4 ?
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I have a k4 and did a few up grades like hose,stumpy trigger,etc,then i bought an ava p60, the best thing i ever bought,not nocking the karcher why have chicken when you can have steak😊
I’m not sure here the bad reputation from Karcher has come from; I’ve found them products to be very well built and reliable. So much of the longevity is also user dependant and people don’t read instruction; the main thing the knackers the pumps is not draining them during the winter, so water is left in the pump, that freezes, expands and very quickly causes stress and leaks. This is instructed in the user manual for the last 15 years I’ve been buying Karcher washers but so many people are too arrogant to read them.
Bought the Ava p57 of your recommendation think karcher have had there day like,had a k2 for years hose is to short storage is crap on the machine but I’m not saying Ava is the best as I’m having niggles with it the handle keeps locking itself and is stiff to push the unlock switch and the foam cannon is utter crap the 0.6ltr so I’m buying the 3 on pay day and that little one is going straight in the bin
Personally I think there's better options out there. Connecting a steel reinforced hose would be the best option but 12m is the sweet spot for pressure washers
Had a K4 for 7 years, it leaks like a sifter from the inlet housing (never lend your tools out in winter), still chugs along though. Nowadays thats the one I exclusively lend to family as I couldnt give a monkeys what state it comes back in. Save my nice pressure washer just for me 😂 like others mentioned, terrible hose in length and quality, the proprietary connectors are a ⚽ ache. Once you have upgraded everything, your accessories cost more than the machine and then some.
Fab vid bud! My neighbour has one for about 4 years now, uses every second weekend, even in the winter coz he has a double garage. He loves it, apart from the hose which is a piece of cr*p that's only good for some tie up sex.
@@epicautomotivedetailing karcher K2 with the provided foam attachment. For some reason, it will not work without pulsating. Everything else works great. Slightly confused tbh lol
I was ready to buy this bad boy and now having second thoughts. You spend so much and end up spending more to make it better. Why don't Karcher make it better in the first place? Any way, everyone keeps on talking about hose replacements, what do you fine folks recommend it to be replaced with? Lastly, I've checked on Karcher and the K4 power control comes with a 8m hose and not a 6m which the video suggests.
Good video but nobody who owns a Karcher uses a Karcher hose - it's the law. You buy a new 25m rubber hose, a short trigger and a decent snow foam cannon. Once you have these the Karcher is a demon of a car washer.
Hey mate, New subscriber here. Can you recommend anything as an alternative to guardex, my wife is picking up her new car up soon and i'm keen to proctect it. TIA
@@epicautomotivedetailing One thing I learned and I am sure you already know is to lay it out completely flat before running water through it, helps prevent kinking while using it. Still no idea how to wind it back up properly because it's so stiff. I did upgrade the Karcher with a 10 euro Pressure Washer Water Gun from Ali which was a great buy. Can't find a hose replacement so looking forward to your next upgrade video to look at options.
Just got a little K2 does job for me, did car today first time using Turtle Wax Snow foam rather than Polar Blast, big mistake, that stuff is great the Turtle wax was very very poor, total waste of time,spend the money for the best .
Anything yellow from karcher is poo full stop they are popular there's no doubt about that, but they're utter crap AVA are ok but they're still not set up properly in the UK I know as I was one of the first to buy a P80 which is a good machine stick with Nilfisk or Ava not the the yellow toys
My K4 is about 5 years old and going strong. Like many people, I ditched the lethally dangerous Karcher hose (kinked like mad and was a battle to coil it back up). Got a 15m hose and MTM SGS35 stubby gun and AutoGlym foam cannon. My K4 is in the garage and is permanently plugged in and attached to a dedicated tap via a short length of feeder hose. So I don’t have to move the machine at all.
Great video Dave years ago when I bought my K3 it was the salesman at Halfords told me no one brings back K3 however he has more K4 returns than anything else in his shop, it’s also worth mentioning that the K4 Classic that replaces the Compact now uses the cheaper and unreliable universal motor instead of the induction motors in the full sized model.
I think those stats on the k4s being returned more is a result of probabilities as they sell tens of thousands more so definitely makes sense. I think classic is an awful name for a new model. Classic karcher We're terrible back in the day
Bought a K4 during Covid lockdown and it’s still going strong. The supplied hose is too short, rigid and virtually unusable especially in winter when there’s no outside heat to make it a bit more malleable. So that got replaced with a longer, more flexible hose. Plus I’ve got a QR spray gun and proper snowfoam lances. So for car cleaning I’m set, but that’s because I spent extra money where needed. But for patio/driveway/outdoor cleaning I just use the supplied lances and they’re fine.
Glad you got it upgraded. It's very common with this model that people just keep the standard hose as backup
Had these for at least 15 years but tbh the Ava I got off your recommendation is the next level up
Great update good feedback
Nice, thank you 🙏
Couldn’t wait to retire my K4 for my AVA Smart P50, even though the price and specs are very similar.
The K4 biggest let down was definitely its hose, which was both short and kinked nearly every time I used it and if it didn’t, then it would when curling up to store away.
Now I’ve bought an additional steel reinforced 12m extension to the paltry original 6m it’s perfect, as I can do both cars without moving either.
I feel the K4 is great for stonework, and garden furniture. But it’s out of its depth washing cars.
Totally agree. I think for occasional use it's ok but I think many people watching this may want something more
I run a K2 that i have upgraded to use after market attachments and hoses. I’m coming up to 10 years as a professional detailer and I’m only on my 2nd K2. Not bad for a $AUD149 machine. I just don’t see the value in the expensive ones. I did buy a 2400psi Ryobi after my first K2 died, but it weighs 3 to 4 times as much as the K2. I use it primarily for around the house stuff so i can keep the K2 for the important stuff. FYI, I’ve tested my K2 as per what I have seen on IMJOSHV and it’s running about 1100psi and 1.2 GPM. Keep the great stuff coming Dave. Lloyd
Thanks Lloyd
Thank you for this. I acquired mine about 8 years ago from a friend who never really used it. It was a replacement to my old one, which was cylindrical, with the hose and cable wrapped around either side (sorry, I can't recall the model). My K4 has never really been problematic apart from, as you say, the short and plasticy hose. I'm planning to fit a better, longer one and fit a reel on the rear handle part from one of my old pressure washers.
Have had a K7 Series for 9 years, daily use, looked after, NEVER run dry or thrown around. Also have a Kranzle K1322TS serviced regularly.
Yeah to be fair the k7 is great
Great honest review, I have had a Kärcher K4 for over 6 years it has been brilliant for cleaning patios to the car, yes the snow foam is a bit of a let for the car. But a reliable machine. Keep up the great car detailing tip videos.👊🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much
Going to throw in a word for nilfisk I have a 145 fantastic piece of kit. I have recently upgraded the hose to a 15m soft and it's awesome
Yes definitely. Nilfisk don't get enough credit. They have an excellence 180 now with a digital screen on the washer. Looks interesting to say the least
I’ve got an old K4 - it must be 20 years old. I use it regularly to clean my cars and my huge block paved drive. Never has any issues with it.
Have a k4, had no choice, had to send my mrs to get something there and then and she rang me and told me what was in stock. Was a nightmare as i was mid way through details.
Ive got a 15m hose and a quick release gun so they got attached straight away.
3 weeks in now and it seems ok. But the hose it came with was a joke.
Not having a way of coiling up is also very annoying.
Lets see how it lasts. Def be trying out something else next.
Great video. Loving the content. Best on the tube. Hoping for some cutting and polishing videos.
Thanks Alex yes got so many videos to release. I upload certain videos at certain times depending on what feedback I get so I'll get something out on here soon
Thanks for that - as useful video just as I am thinking of buying one. Going to go the refurbished route. I have bought things like washing machines and tumble driers via this route at good reduced prices and they have been utterly reliable.
Honestly refurbished machines are the way forward. I had a nilfisk p180 that was a refurb but don't keep pressure washers long enough as I have to keep up with filming new washers
Everytime I see a karcher now, it I dont interest me after buying the Ava p80. You recommended me the Ava and was the best decision I made for a pressure washer. Thank you mate!
Did you get the evo or the master?
@@epicautomotivedetailing I’ve brought the master series limited edition. The accessories they include with it was definitely worth it
I've had k4 full control for about 3or 4 years now. Only thing I would say is upgrade the high pressure hose, I got a 20 m length from pressure washer parts UK. The hose is way softer and never kinks. For cleaning the car it's a stubby gun and foam lance from the same place. Other than that no issues at all.
Had my K4 for a little over a year after upgrading from a K2 that I’d had for almost 10 years I think, upgraded the hose to 15m flexi hose from DIrectHoses, MTM STG35 stubby gun (awesome) mjjc S v3 foam cannon and all connections 1/4 inch quick connect. Not had a single issue at all, the only thing that bugs me about is the I wish the water inlet was on the back and that the handle had a lock option so it could be locked in the up position, I may find a way to do that anyway so I can add a holder for the coiled hose.
very true the hose on the back doesn't work well
@@epicautomotivedetailing not sure if it would or better or worse but it would definitely look neater than the hose connected at the front. It would likely work no different for me as the K4 itself stays where its positioned during a wash, it’s just that it’s always at an angle because the hose comes in the same side as the pressure line feeds out.
Got my K4 full control from the karcher outlet few years ago cost me like 99 quid and was pretty much brand new not a mark on it. Also that hole on the front left is meant for the pressure hose to come through which is very handy when you have the premium model which does have a hose reel its like 190 on karcher outlet currently
Karcher outlet is really good. They use ultrasonic cleaners and the machines come out spot on and what makes them great is they are tested by real humans not robots after inspection so they actually leave their facility in better condition than new
I had a k4,absolute pile of sxxt constantly breaking down,I bought an ava P60 evolution,top machine 👌👌
Nice, the Evolution range and the easy range are excellent
My K4 compact finally let go after 10 years of weekly use cleaning cars, motorbikes and mountain bikes. Unfortunately, because I was in a bit of a budget bind since the car is going into the body shop, so I had to settle for the K3 horizontal, since I was able to pick it up for £90 delivered. Most of negative points of the stock product have been negated by having an upgraded 15m rubber hose and an MJJC foam cannon running through a stubby gun. I just hope that the K3 would still be able to deliver on performance for weekendly activities. Definitely didn't have the budget at this time for an Ava. I'm presuming the performance will still be sufficient for its duty cycle.
I've just received a k3 horizontal for testing for next Month. It's madness that it has a 4m hose
@@epicautomotivedetailing I'm looking forward to your honest review on this Dave. Your reviews are usually brutally honest and impartial. My worry is that the pump might not have the head for a 15m hose.
Was quite happy with the foam and dwell I got with the K4 with the nice weather we've had the last 2 weeks. It might be buyer's remorse, but we shall see. It was the same price as a refurbised K2.
Looking forward to the upgrades video
Great entry level washer but I’d advise spending more if you do a lot of cleaning. I opted for Karcher to start off with - did the job and I ran it into the ground before upgrading. Great video.
Cheers David, Definitely recommend to everyone to spend more time going through all the options before spending 💰
Got a K4 and cleans all way around my Mercedes long wheelbase van no problem 👍👍Great Machine 👍👍
Cool glad to hear it works well for you :)
Switched the hose out for a longer no kink blue hose from direct hoses and added a short trigger gun with various nozzles which makes the karcher way better imho
Nice good to know
@epicautomotivedetailing makes attaching snow cannon a lot easier too
Halfords have this listed with a 8m hose ? Have they listened to your criticism 🤷🏼♂️
I have the K4 power control which has a hose reel attached. The OE hose is toilet, so I changed it for a much longer, and better hose from direct hoses. I don’t have to move the K4 at all, and can get round the whole car with ease.
Nice, yeah I think a few mods would make this much better
Great Video Dave, I have replaced the hose and lance with a flexible 8m hose and stub gun, has been really reliable for me as a weekend car cleaner :)
Nice well done. Yeah for the odd weekend this is ok
I bought a K4, but being the first pressure washer I've used I can't really compare to others. However I have seen on forums that the component to upgrade is the hose to something longer and more cooperative.
For the price it just needs a little tweak or an upgrade to be worth it. At the moment based on price the Easy P57 is the one to beat providing they really get their act together with customer service
Last year on Ebay I got a 15m braided new hose for my K4, cosy £10.74 delivered. Works a treat. Needed the longer length for cleaning my garage roof
Personally I own the Karcher K4 power control , this came with a hose reel. I have not had any issues what so ever the last year. Thus ofc, I upgraded the gun and the hose. But the water hose inlet I havent had any issues either.
Nice that's good to know 👌
I upgraded to an k4 after my k2 broke..owned for 4 years now. I bought myself a 15m hose from amazon it feels much better quality than the karcher one and so much easier
Nice, really think they need to step up with the hoses. Ava are throwing in steel reinforced hoses with many models
Great video Dave, I have a mixed experience with the Karcher refurbished products.
A K5 pressure washer that is still going strong after 2 1/2 years of use. But I also bought a wet and dry vac that lasted just a few months before detonating.
Interesting about the wet vac. Which brand was it?
@epicautomotivedetailing it was also a Karcher, bought from their store. It detonated in month 7, and when I checked the website, it only came with a six month warranty..
My k4 failed one month after 2 year warranty. They have since changed to a 3 year and wanted £180 to repair it......only after some length conversations and raising issue with the warranty has been extended on a new buy but same spec they helped but was hard work.
that's great you managed to get it sorted.
Had a K4 for four years very well looked after, frost free, using a 15m flexi hose and it has gradually lost its pressure to the point it no longer works. I wouldnt advise using anymore than a 10m hose. I will go for an Ava now.
I brought my k4 two years ago and not had any problems only one snow foam canon is crap .had to buy better quality one . Just remember to register it with Karcher warranty team. Don't buy one from halfords it's not same quality as one in B&Q plus it's £30 cheaper
Yeah those cannons just feel like a waste of plastic
Very useful to know, cheers mate
Ah man just had a look on the outlet for a K4 and it's like £110. Bargain
Just checked which model Karcher I have and it's a K4 anyway ! Not sure on other opinions but I feel mine doesn't have enough power. Rocking a decent hose and gun too so not that.
@@epicautomotivedetailing They are ok for applying the sealant type products though
When is the video with upgrades coming? I have a k2 but in need of upgrades. Great video 👍
waiting on a new hose to arrive then i can film
I’m probably not comparing like with like but I bought a Karcher HD 5/12 C years ago. In that time it’s broken twice. I was willing to buy a new machine but my local Karcher agent recommended they had a look at it rather than buy a new machine. Apparently it only needed new capacitor, so I had it repaired. I did think the repair was costly but felt I had little choice as the machine worked perfectly well. If it does break I will probably have a look at the Ava range you’ve spoken so highly of because I thought the Karcher snow cannon was not very good.
Depends on usage. You may have been just unlucky. Ive had the 5/12 , 6/13 and the 7125 back in the day and they got used to every day. My 7125 is now with my friend and its ticking over perfectly.
I got a k4 6 months ago been using it quite regularly cleaning my and my family and friends cars... ive accidently become a valetter... i got a 15m hose for it and a stubby trigger... i use the mjjc snow foam cannon with it and i have to say the k4 has been great... its downfalls for me is u just need to buy the addons to make it the total package yourself
Yeah that's the bit where it can cost dearly. My easy P57 had everything with it. Really did make sense that design
I have a K4 that i use for my valeting business, so it gets used often. I got one originally from halfords and after a week or so of using it the hose would fire off from the pressure washer end..it was dangerous and very frustrating! I ran the water through to avoid air locks, but it kicked the hose of regardless, i took it back to halfords, at which point they just gave me a replacement one with basically no questions asked! It can't be a good sign😂 However, the one i got it replaced with has a longer, more durable hose! So maybe they've listened? It's kicked the hose off once so far, so im hoping that was a one-off!
All in all, I'd probably avoid buying this and spend a little extra on a better brand
Glad you got it sorted. Honestly I feel I could develop such a good pressure washer if given the opportunity
Thats the exact one i have and the day after its first use i bought a 25m hose and stubby gun with matching snow foam gun, then it was good to go and not a issue since
Nice, frequent use?
@@epicautomotivedetailing yes I use it about 4x a week at least as I am a competent amateur detailer so not afraid to try new things as everyday is a schoolday, and some of the tips I have found on your channel have been a game changer
Wicked video! I've literally just started up cleaning myself and bought one of these as they're really easy to get hold of. It's a great bit of kit for the money , But my god is that hose soo annoying.. Constantly coil's up and not long enough, Spend a lot of time trying to untangle and pack it away properly. Secondly the snow foam bottle is stupidly annoying to get used to the amount of time's i've accidently pressed the button fitting it to the handle and the bottle just falling on the floor losing product is unreal. Bad design by karcher that one! It's a great lightweight bit of kit for not an awful lot of money. Definitely following to see what upgrades you do because they sure need a better hose and snow foam bottle design..
Thank you 🙏. I've written up the video but will put it into practice next month. Got more temu stuff coming next week 😅
@@epicautomotivedetailing Look forward to watching it mate!
You’ve massively inspired me to get washing and detailing cars , Love all your content and hardworking keep it up mate 👍🏻
Look forward to the upgrade video - I’ve had a k2 for a little while now, just worried on the longevity as the parts feel so plasticky. I changed the hose to a 10m more flexible hose which was a game changer
Yes the long term reliability is always going to be questionable. So most manufacturers aim for 2000 hours of life then it's time to say goodbye so for domestic use on the odd weekend they will all last a fair few years
@@epicautomotivedetailing cool a few years will do for me :)
Great video and I am looking forward to check next video for the updates as it might give me ideias and revommendations to my Nilfisk e150 😊
I didn't know about the fact that we should get water through the machine before using it in order to get rid of any air pockets , I am sure I didn't do that when I got my Nilfisk e150 😢 hopefully I didn't compromise the aluminium pump! I did register so I have extended warranty for 5years ... I just didn't know about that but it makes total sense
Awesome, thank you!
aluminium pump, You'll be ok. It does shorten the lifespan but for most people who use it now and then it wont effect them
@@epicautomotivedetailing may I ask do you this everytime before using the pressure washer or just the first time ? Kind regards
@@Carlos_Teixeira_Drums its always best to do it but understand not everyone would be too bothered. Ill be honest i can't say i honestly do this everytime
Have a k4, had no choice, had to send my mrs to get something there and then and she rang me and told me what was in stock. Was a nightmare as i was mid way through details.
Ive got a 15m hose and a quick release gun so they got attached straight away.
3 weeks in now and it seems ok. But the hose it came with was a joke.
Not having a way of coiling up is also very annoying.
Lets see how it lasts. Def be trying out something else next.
Dave forgot to congratulate you on the 100k!
Thanks Mate well happy
I have a karcher and nothing has really changed with its offering. I’m looking forward to trying a man AVA cause I feel these are the best out there. The hose reel is spot on. Even when I bought a replacement for the one that came with the pressure washer, and there’s absolutely nowhere to store it. Rubbish on that front. I’m just plodding along regarding mine, just waiting to get an ACA which is more versatile and they know what the budding retailer or professional wants. The hose reel. The light trigger. Accessories. AVA is a great proposition. Karcher have lost their way. If you’re not happy with the proposition that karcher have now and I’ve had mine for years and you’re still mentioning the same things, then really they really need to have a common sense rethink on what their devices are for. Not just rehash the same thing like blackberry. They’ll become extinct and be out of the sector they’ve worked so hard to build over the years.
AVA easy p57 is the one that ticks all the boxes for me
@@epicautomotivedetailing What are your thoughts on the Ava P80 evo Dave?.
I look forward to the next 'upgrades' video as I like the K5, but the hose drives me nuts, and, stubby guns?
Stubby guns are good in the sense of being quick and easy to change accessories with. I still prefer longer lances as it's less movement on the body which as you get older is beneficial to avoid crouching all the time
I'm still loving my Ava
Nice which one did you go for in the end again?
I recently bought a K4 Power Control with the home kit. First thing I upgraded was the hose, to a 10m one from Direct Hoses, far better quality. The T5 Racer that came with it has green nozzles fitted, and I am not sure if the grey nozzles are better? I was planning on using it to softly clean my Tarmac driveway, but quite a few people have told me not to do that?
Had a K4 'Full control' - reasonably well used, started leaking at just under 3 years old. The adjustable Lance is a waste of time and money. The hose is garbage. So spent about £100 on upgrades. Replace it with an Ava Smart P60 (£300) that is simply miles better in features, design and performance. Great for cars and household stuff, and takes Karcher attachments
If you have the old smart p60 you can double press the trigger quickly and it can give you half power or full power instantly 👌
Hi Dave, what is your jetwash of choice given you have tried just about all of them. Choose your weapon 😊
Hiya. Honestly the Ava easy p57 is my favourite based on price, features and dare I say it reliability. It's a newer model with newer components that actually hadn't ever failed in my time of owning it. The 12m hose is perfect for what I need but still occasionally coils up
@@epicautomotivedetailing I must say I have looked at up grades but I am thinking of buying another P57 they are so easy to use and now I’m use to it. I did consider the Evo but the cable would be a deal breaker. I think 12 metres is enough for the flexihose also, thanks for your reply.
No thanks Dave i will stick with my AVA as its the nuts!! 👌🏻👍🏻 But I was interested in the patio cleaner on the table what was that & can you use that on an AVA if its any good as my AVA patio cleaner is shite!!😬
Hiya Dave, sorry just to clarify the only reason I've featured this karcher on the channel is because it's the best seller across the UK and Europe so I was curious to find out why. I actually have a few new pressure washers coming to the channel which I'm pretty sure not many people will be aware of even existing over here so looking forward to featuring them
@@epicautomotivedetailing No worries dave but what i was asking was about the karcher patio cleaner is it any good as my AVA patio cleaner is Shite!!😬👍🏻
Hi there, I'm new to the channel but I like it :) I'm researching a new pressure washer as I need an upgrade from my previous k2 compact (nothing wrong with it, going strong for over 5-6 years, I'm amazed as it's like a plastic toy 🤣) looking at ava ones but they are 200 quid more expensive that karcher ones here in Poland, sooo... I'm looking intensely at k7 compact as I HATE to have the application on my mobile for anything washing related 😒 hope the pressure is a big upgrade as the price is like 7x more than the k2 compact...
I would say Ava easy p57 is a better choice for features
@@epicautomotivedetailing Wow thank you for the fast anwser! I will look into it, but i think this model is unavalible here in Poland! Cheers though and great work! I will watch all your pressure washing vids!
Thx for the video but what happened to the upgrades video? What upgrades were you/did you do?
I'm waiting on a hose to come in to film the rest but very soon
@@epicautomotivedetailingok thanks mate, appreciate the reply.
My 17 year old K2 is still going strong k4 next to have Eventually
Crikey well done that's mega
@@epicautomotivedetailing just a weekend warrior but it’s been a good one mate
Very helpful vid again Dave, which Jet Wash does Leo prefer, the star of the show❤
Leo's fearless he doesn't mind the loud ones lol
Hiya, what's your recommendation for a Pressure Washer, then? K4, Ava P57, or something else?
P57 has everything you could need from a pressure washer
Thanks for the response. Would you change the hose or gun on it at all?
Mines been going strong for about 5 years and I clean cars a lot
Can I ask which foam cannon you use please and where you purchased it from.
I am after buying a pressure washer which can be used every 10 days or so for cleaning mine and partners cars but don’t know what to go for. Would probably spend up to £350, what would you suggest buying?
I am looking to upgrade my pressure washer and have a budget of £550 and narrowed it down to 2 machines.
As a man that has no doubt used both machines I could do with your honest opinion on which one you would recommend.
Nilfisk Premium 200-15 or the Ava P80 Evolution.
Pros for the Nilfisk, extra power and longer hose length.
Pros for the AVA, longer warranty and slightly cheaper.
Honest opinion: Nilfisk wins hands down.
I've had a k4 for the past 2 years and tbh it's great for it's purpose for now, which is cleaning my personal vehicles on the weekend, as I'm a professional detailer the rest of the week 🤣 Not the best but fair for most jobs, specially detailing, however I've changed everything besides the machine itself, short gun, bigger hose (10m) and lots of acessories to fit the short 1/4 quick connect gun. The original Karcher acessories, wand etc. Just wasn't good for me, too big too bulky.
Thanks for your comment. Sounds great I do see a lot of people on facebook groups use these for detailing as a side hustle with custom hoses etc. Interesting to hear more feedback from people who use them daily
Once again another fantastic and informative video Dave
Thanks Mark 🙏
Would love you to do a ratio mix video ,please
I'll add it to the list 😃
A review of the Bosch pressure washers would be useful if you could get your hands on one.
Sure
Hi , where is the vid you did with the upgrades you mentioned.,?
Not being released till October mate
@@epicautomotivedetailing ok thanks. It's ok my car hasn't been cleaned since June. 🤣
Quick question. Not pressure washer related but I am currently using power maxed ceramic ultra seal and I am considering getting the AVA seal and shine. Would you class both of these to be similar products?
I haven't used power maxed, in my last video on the Citroen I tried some Ava products. The seal and shine is very good and will see you through the month
Been using Nilflisk for 10 years, can you also test that
Hello I have already featured the Nilfisk core 125, 130 & 140 along with the P180. I also have the excellence 170 coming to the channel along with the core 150 very soon so plenty more coming :)
I have the K4 and have recently purchased the AVA Premium Snow Cannon after watching your review. I was also looking at the AVA Pro Force gun, do you think this would be a good upgrade for the K4 ?
hiya to be honest no i would go for a mtm stubby gun then attach a k series adapter to make the foam cannon compatible
Thanks for the quick reply and your advice. Much appreciated mate.
Bro Some of my Neighbours Scratch my New Kawasaki ZX10R I tried For Buffing but scratch not gone some my friends says that use 1500,2000 then 3000 grit sandpaper after that buffing then it will go what did you think please reply Because of jealousy neighbours scratch my new zx10R
Oh that's not nice sorry to hear that
@@epicautomotivedetailing Brother I asked you that Please tell me what sandpaper I used for some Fade paint and Minor scratch
I have a k4 and did a few up grades like hose,stumpy trigger,etc,then i bought an ava p60, the best thing i ever bought,not nocking the karcher why have chicken when you can have steak😊
Totally of course. The fact they have everything ready to go for the user is great
I’m not sure here the bad reputation from Karcher has come from; I’ve found them products to be very well built and reliable. So much of the longevity is also user dependant and people don’t read instruction; the main thing the knackers the pumps is not draining them during the winter, so water is left in the pump, that freezes, expands and very quickly causes stress and leaks. This is instructed in the user manual for the last 15 years I’ve been buying Karcher washers but so many people are too arrogant to read them.
Bought the Ava p57 of your recommendation think karcher have had there day like,had a k2 for years hose is to short storage is crap on the machine but I’m not saying Ava is the best as I’m having niggles with it the handle keeps locking itself and is stiff to push the unlock switch and the foam cannon is utter crap the 0.6ltr so I’m buying the 3 on pay day and that little one is going straight in the bin
The new premium foam cannons are excellent 👌
can you help me? in the video it is mentioned that the hose is 6m but on Amazon all the models I see say they are 8m
Different variations, offers occur throughout time you never know they may have changed it after seeing this 😉😅
How do you attatch that foam cannon tou put on ? Ive just got a washer and want that for it
What would your opinion be on getting a 10m hose extension if getting one of these. ?
Personally I think there's better options out there. Connecting a steel reinforced hose would be the best option but 12m is the sweet spot for pressure washers
Had a K4 for 7 years, it leaks like a sifter from the inlet housing (never lend your tools out in winter), still chugs along though. Nowadays thats the one I exclusively lend to family as I couldnt give a monkeys what state it comes back in. Save my nice pressure washer just for me 😂 like others mentioned, terrible hose in length and quality, the proprietary connectors are a ⚽ ache. Once you have upgraded everything, your accessories cost more than the machine and then some.
Fab vid bud!
My neighbour has one for about 4 years now, uses every second weekend, even in the winter coz he has a double garage. He loves it, apart from the hose which is a piece of cr*p that's only good for some tie up sex.
Lol 😂
What is your go to foam cannon?
ava premium cannon
My foam sprayer will only pulse yet its brand new. Not sure how to fix it. Every other attachment works fine.
Interestingly I used an aftermarket foam cannon on a different machine last week and it pulses too. What cannon is it?
@@epicautomotivedetailing karcher K2 with the provided foam attachment. For some reason, it will not work without pulsating. Everything else works great. Slightly confused tbh lol
Hows this comoare to the K4 compact?
Ya I just ordered a k4 premium refurbished for $270 AUD
I was ready to buy this bad boy and now having second thoughts. You spend so much and end up spending more to make it better. Why don't Karcher make it better in the first place?
Any way, everyone keeps on talking about hose replacements, what do you fine folks recommend it to be replaced with?
Lastly, I've checked on Karcher and the K4 power control comes with a 8m hose and not a 6m which the video suggests.
There's more money in buying extra accessories. Just the nature of the business.
@@epicautomotivedetailingmakes sense. What hose would you recommend that isn't insanely priced?
I bought my one a month ago and it came with a 8 meter hose so it must be different..
they do a few variations so yeah you may have got a different bundle
Same cord n hose length as ma £50 titan 😂 will be upgrading to the hd4/8 soon
6:32 what is the name of the snow canon ?
Ava premium cannon. It comes in a pack of 3
Good video but nobody who owns a Karcher uses a Karcher hose - it's the law. You buy a new 25m rubber hose, a short trigger and a decent snow foam cannon. Once you have these the Karcher is a demon of a car washer.
Or just buy something else
Have you tried products from jennychem?
Does anyone have any good hose suggestions to replace ?
Best snow cannon for karcher
The question is, when will it start to leak? Karcher are renowned for it 😂
To be fair that would have made a great cliff hanger lol
Hey mate, New subscriber here. Can you recommend anything as an alternative to guardex, my wife is picking up her new car up soon and i'm keen to proctect it. TIA
Infinity wax synergy 2 or g techniq crystal serum light
@@epicautomotivedetailing thank you so much!!
I got one about 5 years ago
The hose is rubbish kinks all the time I upgraded to 15 meter no kink hose so much easier to use changing the hose
Agreed the hose is not the best
The 6m kinking hose, I hate it with a passion, almost impossible to wrap up once done.
Yeah it's awful isn't it
@@epicautomotivedetailing One thing I learned and I am sure you already know is to lay it out completely flat before running water through it, helps prevent kinking while using it. Still no idea how to wind it back up properly because it's so stiff. I did upgrade the Karcher with a 10 euro Pressure Washer Water Gun from Ali which was a great buy. Can't find a hose replacement so looking forward to your next upgrade video to look at options.
We have a K4 - agree the hose is dreadful
A man dressed as Donald Duck has been arrested in MK for selling quack ☺️
Just got a little K2 does job for me, did car today first time using Turtle Wax Snow foam rather than Polar Blast, big mistake, that stuff is great the Turtle wax was very very poor, total waste of time,spend the money for the best .
Mate seriously just go for alkaline snow foam like infinity wax power foam you won't regret it
Not a lot of money ,but the hoses on them are a pain I think for a bit extra there are a lot of better machines out there
Definitely agree mate. It's a shame because they have potential to be great
@@epicautomotivedetailing yeah but I feel they are geting l left behind if you know what I mean
Still the biggest brand in Europe but the others are closing in fast
@@epicautomotivedetailingwhat pressure washer would you recommend for somebody just washing their car once or twice a week at max ?
Anything yellow from karcher is poo full stop they are popular there's no doubt about that, but they're utter crap AVA are ok but they're still not set up properly in the UK I know as I was one of the first to buy a P80 which is a good machine stick with Nilfisk or Ava not the the yellow toys
Nilfisk has some real gems out there
It looks like Pikachu on the thumbnail :)
😅 I can't believe I didn't see that