I don’t for a second believe he’ll have no involvement in creative. The board told him they unanimously didn’t want him back and he’s still got himself back. He just can’t keep away and now he’s got back in the door I don’t see him keeping out of the way of creative.
He will absolutely move into old roles eventually. If his goal was just a sale or media negotiation he would’ve gone with what the board offered. His big power move to do what he did is to allow him to make the move down the line.
The talk of what he plans to do he needed to say because there’s be issues if he was transparent about it. He probably won’t make the move right away though. He will probably hold back for awhile to try and look like he’s honoring what he said he’d do. Then he will wait for an opportunity where something goes poorly and make his move so that he can make a rationalization that he stuck with the role but needed to step in for the best interest of shareholders. He’s trying to play this as a game to make it less transparent but we all know what will inevitably happen. For example, when he left he said he’d support the organization in every way he could. Yet when the Board didn’t go along with his return he made it so that he’s the only one who can approve the company’s major future. That doesn’t align but the shock of a return has let people forget that. He’s gonna try and do the same to transition back to power. If he doesn’t get a chance he may just do it anyways but he’s not stupid he will try to find a perfect time for it instead of bulldozing in.
Good, Triple H's NXT jobbers all suck especially Karrion Kross. Think God Vince is back to clean up the mess left by NXT jobbers like Johnny Gargano. Thank you Mr. McMahon.
Even if Vince keeps his word 100% to only be there to help sell the company.. imagine taking over the CEO role, undoing the previous person's bad policies that were hurting the company, things are going in a good direction, morale is up, and now suddenly you have to see their face at the board meeting every Monday and you're expected to function as a team with them.. I think that would loom over anyone in that position and affect how they do their job.
I highly doubt Vince has any intention of selling. The sale talk was only his ploy to get back into power. He will have creative control again before Wrestlemania. He will file a new letter with the SEC stating that him having creative control is imperative to the financial success of the company and Paul Levesque has been relieved of his duties effective immediately.
Vince McMahon wants to handle directly the sell of the company because he wants to be re-instated as head of daily operations and CEO by whoever buyer strikes a deal
There's zero percent chance he stays at the company after a sale unless its to the Saudis. No large corporation in America (outside of WWE) would let a sexual assaulter to run the company. Vince either wants to torpedo a sale and get control back, or he actually just wants to sell the company to who he chooses
Creative has easily gone from an F- to an F+ under Triple H. Big improvement, still comically bad and embarrassing to watch as an adult, but more logical..sometimes.
I'd say it went towards a C-. It's a work in progress, and I agree still quite bad, but honestly it's become a show with more consistency and respect for it's wrestlers.
Nailed it. Listening to Corey Graves carry on about how Dominik had to stay in "prison" and became a gangster during the last hour of Raw tonight really drove this point home.
@Amateur Gamer That wasn't even he's fault that he lost control. Plus he tried he's very best. Heck what he's doing for Raw and Smackdown is literally the same thing he's done for NXT.
What scares me is I think Saudi Arabia would be willing to let him run it till he dies if he sells to them because their plan includes a lot of sports washing at the moment... they bought Newcastle United, got Cristiano Ronaldo to the Saudi League, and made deals for shows with WWE and other entertainment, plan to try to host the World Cup in 2030 or 2034 with Egypt and Greece.. owning the biggest American and International wrestling company in history would be huge for their image
Y’all didn’t talk about this in this clip, but in the back and forth emails between the board and Vince the board indicated having knowledge of events/circumstances that would be harmful to shareholders if it went public. I’m curious what would happen if WWE were to get deep in negotiations and another bombshell WSJ report were to come out.
I’d say that is what Vince is trying to head off currently without being sure it’ll work. Pretty sure Manjit Singh is gonna be feeding Wall Street Journal some crazy investigative findings in the next few months, given that the Board of Director changes happened without a press release
Vince is not going to sell WWE. Everything that has happened thus far has made one thing very clear: Vince will NOT give up his control. Simple as that. He's too stubborn and selfish to do so. He's coming back under that guise, sure - and maybe he would sell if he had 100% assurances that he would still be in control of the actual product... but no one is going to buy a company to not have full control of it - so I don't see it ever selling. Vince would rather run WWE into the ground than see it succeed without him. Simple as that.
The exact sequence of events how Vince McMahon takes back full control Vince: just back for the sale HHH: 😮 Vince: Sorry pal no viable offers made HHH: 🤔 Vince: They said they won’t buy cause it’s not the old product like before. HHH: 😶 Vince: I’ll be taking creative again…just until the sale 😇 HHH: 😒… 😑… 😖
How can it be, that WWE's ownership saga is more entertaining and interesting than the actual product they show each week. The idea of a sale seems truly far-fetched, more likely they go private, he returns as the figurehead and starts releasing people he doesn't like.
If you are going to consider Endeavor (UFC) which has $6.1 billion in capital, then you have to also consider the Khan's who have $15+ Billion in capital.
Yeah but Ring of Honor would’ve been a hard sell for Shaheed Khan to have justified in his head. Logistics are the problem for the Khans buying WWE; if All Elite’s infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired four years in, then just picking up WWE’s existing infrastructure and just running it as is, is a questionable goal to undertake
@@fives. AEW's infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired four years in? AEW has a $175 million national TV deal, they have numerous other international TV deals in the tens of millions dollar range. No other wrestling promotion outside of WWE over the last 22 years has sold more tickets or merch or been more successful than AEW. AEW's last valuation was set at over $400 million dollars and the company has been making a profit every year since 2020 according to Tony Khan. Those are all positives. Additionally, if running a wrestling company is the pre-requisite to get financing then no other buyer outside of the Khans would be able to get it. Fact is, it's not. The Khans are owners in two major industries the NFL and the Auto Industry and because of that and their $15+ billion in capital, they can easily get financing to buy WWE. But hey, I told everyone exactly what power Vince has and exactly what he would do and how he would do it to get back on the board and nobody believed me. Trust me, The Khans can buy WWE if they want to and if Vince would accept it. 100% fact.
@@Booth55555 “the company’s been making a profit every year since 2020 according to Tony Khan” - as a four-year old entertainment media operation, it’s doing incredibly well. As an established wrestling company? Even still it’s too soon to tell. Why, when they’re just figuring out how to get over serious human/public relations hurdles like you may have seen in the past year, would they purchase the WWE and give themselves even more work to upkeep? It makes zero logistical sense and it’d be a waste of money, especially when that money could be spent buying the entirety of the WWE’s roster that are about to walk out on humanitarian grounds and re-upping those TV deals (or better yet, getting better contract offers) which essentially renders your absolutist fact redundant Oh, and on the note of you telling everyone how Vince was gonna hostile takeover his own board of directors, all very well and good, but the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund is probably gonna buy this comment thread also so it ultimately doesn’t matter
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimagine if he starts out turning all of HHH's improvements over on arrival to make a statement (a Vince thing to do). Vince fires Steven Regal Regal gets cozy spot with AEW HHH gets hold of WWE Regal quits cozy deal to work with HHH A WILD VINCE THROWS THE UNO "REVERSE!" CARD AT REGAL
If you were in the tippy top of top spots once, you don't come back without trying to get back into that spot at least once. Especially if you strong arm your way back in. Give it time.
Steph was on her way out before she became CEO to help her dad, so she may be out. Trips I think may end up retiring but he could go back to NXT full time with Shawn.
Holy frickin hell, Vince is never going to go away. I can bet Vince will sell the company to someone with conditions like whoever buys the company they have to keep Vince. He's kinda like a stray cat hanging around a house for sale, just hoping the new owner will take him in.
The one thing about buying the WWE that I have not heard mention is that within the corporate structure of many of these networks, there are people just like Vince doing the same things as Vince is being accused of. It’s common in that work environment. I doubt many of them will have a problem looking the other way. Since it’s probably happening in their company as well.
@Oj Simp I'm from Scotland I get it they hate trump for some reason but how can they support biden guys a pervert there's compilations ffs and he is demented and corrupt or was before he was demented
@@liamfeely trump tried to rig 2020, but failed. He's massively incompetent 😂. Bottom five president all time, but at least he secured Biden a legacy as the guy who fixed the trump problem. Plus trump going to jail won't look great on his record 😂
I don't believe that this has to really do with money. Vince has made his fortune already and he has more money then he could spend in his lifetime. This is about power and possibly vengeance on the board and company for what he views as a betrayal. He will burn his creation to the ground to make his point.
The issue with streaming companies buying the WWE is Peacock still has the streaming rights until what 2025? They're not going to buy it and not be able to have it.
@Steve Levington. Around 2025 to 2026 Peacock has the rights to stream WWE. That’s one of the big reasons why Comcast/NBC U is the front runner to buy WWE, the other big reasons is NBC U have the TV rights to Raw and NXT on USA network, though that runs out in 2024. The only thing NBC U don’t have is SmackDown which is on FOX and that deal will be running out in 2024. Hulu also have some streaming rights for Raw, SmackDown and NXT but that is scheduled to run out in 2024. Everything runs out in 2024 apart from Peacock’s streaming rights which will run out in 2025 or 2026. Imo the 4 front runners to buy WWE are Comcast/NBC U, FOX, Endeavour (who own UFC), and the Saudi’s. And all 4 if they bought WWE would probably keep the McMahon’s/Levesque’s in charge. And personally I don’t want that. The other possibilities are Amazon, Disney, Netflix, Liberty Media, and Warner Bros Discovery (which are at the bottom of the list as Warner Bros Discovery want to cut costs). Vince I think is starting to look at potential buyers as WWE in 2 years from now might not be worth as much.
@@nu-metalfan2654 I see Comcast buying it and keeping Vinnie Mac in charge for as long as he wants to be. The Paul Levesque experiment is about to be over with very soon.
Don't believe anything Vince McMahon says,hes back for one reason,to take control of creative and ruin everything like he did before he left in July last year,,he cant stand the fact his family his running WWE better than he did,its his giant ego,if he ends up in charge what he did with Bruce Prichard previously will ruin the work Triple H did,he will fire someone he dosent like,make an embrassment out of someone,change their name to summit stupid,WWE will be unwatchable again all thanks to Vince McMahon ego
I'm not gonna feel bad for enjoying WWE under the Triple H era. I also enjoyed NXT when he ran it too. Doesn't make me a Triple H mark, I couldn't stand him as a wrestler but I have a stronger preference with the way he does things. I can't remember the last time the intercontinental championship was defended on a ppv when vince was running things and yet Triple H has had Gunther defend it numerous of times.. you know.. that championship back in the day that actually meant something? Like you were the next in line to be world champion. Or is adding relevancy to championship belts just not doing it for you? Let's go back to defending the intercontinental title once a year on a preshow instead!
i have to believe that Trips will say NO or at least if Universal buys wwe that there exec's will say no to Vince. The Creative has been so much more better under Paul
Vinnie Mac is a mastermind. Say what you will about him and you may be right but he is going to do everything he can to get back his CEO position and he’s savvy enough to get it done. If he can’t by himself he will sell to someone who will let him run it.
So I 1000% agree that Vince will be back in control sooner than later, however he has the SEC & the Feds to deal with because of the $$ he paid out and didn’t account for it correctly. I see them selling to the Saudi’s and going private to stay in control
Can you name one single alpha male narcissistic sociopath in history who ever willingly walked away from their company to relax and enjoy their retirement and wealth? It's not in their nature to ever let go, or ever admit they were wrong. They all die on the job.
Does Vince really think he'll stay in control after a sale with all the allegations against him? The allegations aren't "yeah he did some bad shit sorry" it's a whole mess of allegations. And then what if the new owners aren't aware of all the shit he's alleged to have done over the decades, like the Superfly and Nancy Argentino murder cover up that was featured in Dark Side? The man has too much baggage to stay in control. Even if a new owner thinks Vince is great, surely public pressure and everything would loom over the new owners until something is done about it.
If it's sold and restructured as a private company and it's someone that really likes him, there is nothing they would have to do about it. Public pressure isn't the be all end all, Endeavor kept Dana White as the head of UFC despite his many controversies including abusing his girlfriend in the past week.
My real question is if WWE is sold for lets say $10 billion, Steph and HHH hold like 5% of the stock. That's a cool $500 million they can use to start their own wrestling promotion. And if they can replicate the success of AEW, which isn't losing money even on their first TV deal, they could feasibly use HHH NXT love to create a new organization. They could probably also get investors based on his success record so they don't have to put all the money on the line. Wrestlers and other wrestling people would love to a HHH/Steph organization. Would they do start a third brand??
@@gsesquire3441 You underestimate a workaholic. A workaholic can’t relax because they are a workaholic. And that’s what the McMahon’s are, they are workaholics.
I know everyone is all Doom and Gloom right now, but I still have some hope. And yes it’s the hope that kills. The moment when I’m personally all Doom and Gloom is when there is likely of nothing changing, now there is a possibility of nothing changing, but there is also a possibility of things changing. When Vince “retired” we was all hoping of change, but change didn’t come. Hunter took over as head of creative and guys NOTHING HAS CHANGED with Hunter in charge. Raw and SmackDown still looks the same, still feels the same, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. I hope as a lapsed fan that Vince sells WWE to a company that wants nothing to do with anyone named a McMahon, Levesque or Khan. And whoever buys WWE will turn it back to being private and will want big viewership and will allow creative freedom to achieve that. All I want is for WWE to be a fun product like what it was 20 to 25 years ago again, that’s all I want. And for some reason people named McMahon, Levesque and Khan won’t give it to us.
Unfortunately we will never have what we had all those years ago. If they went private instead of public is the only way we would possibly get out of the PG that so many aren't fond of.
Vincent McMahon will look at his roster call list...... WHO IN THE BLUE HELL HIRED FETUS AKA LUKE GALLOWS BACK. VINCENT MCMAHON FIRED THAT DUDE 8 TIMES NOW🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 HHH did.
Can you intelligent young men answer me.... what is the use of having a board if they flat out are just useless in times like these ? Did I ask that right ? Lol
@@tcd230 you realize it is Monday Night. Vince will fire everyone he thinks should have stayed fired and take control of creative. Then Vince will announce he is selling to Saudi who will give Vince Creative for life, and after death Vince will have written for him by his writing team 20 years worth of storylines, promos, complete with illustrations on how 'the guy' of the company is suppose to look.
16:22 "Look at Dana".. "Dana got into a lot of trouble"... Really Dave, really? How? His show got pushed back a week?? Really? So your telling me "trouble" for the rich and elite is just getting "grounded" for a week. Wow! I don't even know what to say...........
You used the right smileys, when it comes to money vinny mac knows what hes doing, shame the product gonna be dogshit television with him in creative again
@@d.ink3d The product isn't good now. Take away Sami and the Bloodline wtf do you have exactly? Not much. How all those resignings working out? Not well.
TK should buy it and then try to recreate the Vince Nitro speech, but in a stuttering beta wide-eyed deer in the headlights yelling kinda way and ruin it lmao.
...I mean most NFL journalists are at best iffy about goodell Imagine covering that much nonsense over that long a period of time... Of course he's gonna have some feelings, bro. That's the job... you see what the people are really like. The number of journalists that hated, say, Nixon was quite large
Dave is so optimistic saying Vince won't be back fully in control by July. I predict Vince will be fully in charge by the end of February.
I believe Vince has already written Raw for tonight
@@JohnnyDeur What a guy he is, doing all of the heavy lifting for the company
Comments that aged well 👏
Vince saw this comment and took it as a challenge.
@@JohnnyDeur guess he's the reason Charlotte is smackdown women's champion
I don’t for a second believe he’ll have no involvement in creative. The board told him they unanimously didn’t want him back and he’s still got himself back. He just can’t keep away and now he’s got back in the door I don’t see him keeping out of the way of creative.
You have to respect the hustle.
He will absolutely move into old roles eventually. If his goal was just a sale or media negotiation he would’ve gone with what the board offered. His big power move to do what he did is to allow him to make the move down the line.
The talk of what he plans to do he needed to say because there’s be issues if he was transparent about it. He probably won’t make the move right away though. He will probably hold back for awhile to try and look like he’s honoring what he said he’d do. Then he will wait for an opportunity where something goes poorly and make his move so that he can make a rationalization that he stuck with the role but needed to step in for the best interest of shareholders. He’s trying to play this as a game to make it less transparent but we all know what will inevitably happen. For example, when he left he said he’d support the organization in every way he could. Yet when the Board didn’t go along with his return he made it so that he’s the only one who can approve the company’s major future. That doesn’t align but the shock of a return has let people forget that. He’s gonna try and do the same to transition back to power. If he doesn’t get a chance he may just do it anyways but he’s not stupid he will try to find a perfect time for it instead of bulldozing in.
Who fuckin knows
Good, Triple H's NXT jobbers all suck especially Karrion Kross. Think God Vince is back to clean up the mess left by NXT jobbers like Johnny Gargano. Thank you Mr. McMahon.
This is the best long term booking WWE has done in 20 years.
In that it lasted less than a year and ended up reversing the thing it changed? Well, tbh that does feel like a WWE storyline.
And still pulls in more ratings than dynamite
@@TheJSexton24 I expect higher ratings with this going on
@@TheJSexton24 WWE in the mud lol
@@murdockfiles9406 lol than AEW is in the dirt
Even if Vince keeps his word 100% to only be there to help sell the company.. imagine taking over the CEO role, undoing the previous person's bad policies that were hurting the company, things are going in a good direction, morale is up, and now suddenly you have to see their face at the board meeting every Monday and you're expected to function as a team with them.. I think that would loom over anyone in that position and affect how they do their job.
You mean now you have to see their face at every family gathering cause he’s your father/father in law.
I pray for hunter lmao. His heart ain't gonna be able to take this shit.
Ten bucks says he'll be back in creative within a month.
Twenty bucks says the Saudi's throw in a lot of money for part ownership.
He’s back running gorilla at Wrestlemania no doubt…
Before mania for sure
It's wrestlemania season soon. He'll absolutely will be back fully in charge by February.
@@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 after their golf tournament venture went over pretty easy? Yeah totally, they're gonna go deep into the sports game
I highly doubt Vince has any intention of selling. The sale talk was only his ploy to get back into power. He will have creative control again before Wrestlemania. He will file a new letter with the SEC stating that him having creative control is imperative to the financial success of the company and Paul Levesque has been relieved of his duties effective immediately.
Them hiring JPMorgan seems to indicate they are very serious about selling.
Vince McMahon wants to handle directly the sell of the company because he wants to be re-instated as head of daily operations and CEO by whoever buyer strikes a deal
There's zero percent chance he stays at the company after a sale unless its to the Saudis. No large corporation in America (outside of WWE) would let a sexual assaulter to run the company. Vince either wants to torpedo a sale and get control back, or he actually just wants to sell the company to who he chooses
This is part of his grand plan if he can’t get back his CEO position. There’s no way he’s selling to get out of it entirely.
The flaw with this is who would want to buy the company with keeping the old owner in charge ?
@@geraintthatcher3076 Endeavor and The Saudis would happily oblige that request.
Creative has easily gone from an F- to an F+ under Triple H. Big improvement, still comically bad and embarrassing to watch as an adult, but more logical..sometimes.
The creative isn't the important part. The important part is who he pushes.
I'd say it went towards a C-. It's a work in progress, and I agree still quite bad, but honestly it's become a show with more consistency and respect for it's wrestlers.
Nailed it. Listening to Corey Graves carry on about how Dominik had to stay in "prison" and became a gangster during the last hour of Raw tonight really drove this point home.
If he didn't trust Paul with NXT. What makes anybody think he trust him with Raw and Smackdown?
To be fair he is getting better results.
@Amateur Gamer He had good results in NXT even when ratings weren't the best and yet he fired him from creative for NXT.
@@X_Blake he failed in NXT by the margin he was being measured in. Aew won the ratings. The day was moved and he lost control.
@Amateur Gamer That wasn't even he's fault that he lost control. Plus he tried he's very best. Heck what he's doing for Raw and Smackdown is literally the same thing he's done for NXT.
@@X_Blake and he is getting results now. Previously he wasn't.
Which Podcast is only Bryan and Vinny? Or more like- which podcast doesn't have Dave? Please and Thanks!
What scares me is I think Saudi Arabia would be willing to let him run it till he dies if he sells to them because their plan includes a lot of sports washing at the moment... they bought Newcastle United, got Cristiano Ronaldo to the Saudi League, and made deals for shows with WWE and other entertainment, plan to try to host the World Cup in 2030 or 2034 with Egypt and Greece.. owning the biggest American and International wrestling company in history would be huge for their image
But nobody likes those tusken raiders
Y’all didn’t talk about this in this clip, but in the back and forth emails between the board and Vince the board indicated having knowledge of events/circumstances that would be harmful to shareholders if it went public. I’m curious what would happen if WWE were to get deep in negotiations and another bombshell WSJ report were to come out.
They better hurry up and drop it then!
I’d say that is what Vince is trying to head off currently without being sure it’ll work. Pretty sure Manjit Singh is gonna be feeding Wall Street Journal some crazy investigative findings in the next few months, given that the Board of Director changes happened without a press release
Vince is not going to sell WWE. Everything that has happened thus far has made one thing very clear: Vince will NOT give up his control. Simple as that. He's too stubborn and selfish to do so. He's coming back under that guise, sure - and maybe he would sell if he had 100% assurances that he would still be in control of the actual product... but no one is going to buy a company to not have full control of it - so I don't see it ever selling.
Vince would rather run WWE into the ground than see it succeed without him. Simple as that.
He'll do both while laughing all the way to the bank
The exact sequence of events how Vince McMahon takes back full control
Vince: just back for the sale
HHH: 😮
Vince: Sorry pal no viable offers made
HHH: 🤔
Vince: They said they won’t buy cause it’s not the old product like before.
HHH: 😶
Vince: I’ll be taking creative again…just until the sale 😇
HHH: 😒… 😑… 😖
Brian's beard is on point. He uses his words to chop down the world, and his beard is the friggin axe handle. Spot on sir.
How can it be, that WWE's ownership saga is more entertaining and interesting than the actual product they show each week. The idea of a sale seems truly far-fetched, more likely they go private, he returns as the figurehead and starts releasing people he doesn't like.
If you are going to consider Endeavor (UFC) which has $6.1 billion in capital, then you have to also consider the Khan's who have $15+ Billion in capital.
Yeah but Ring of Honor would’ve been a hard sell for Shaheed Khan to have justified in his head. Logistics are the problem for the Khans buying WWE; if All Elite’s infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired four years in, then just picking up WWE’s existing infrastructure and just running it as is, is a questionable goal to undertake
@@fives. AEW's infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired four years in? AEW has a $175 million national TV deal, they have numerous other international TV deals in the tens of millions dollar range. No other wrestling promotion outside of WWE over the last 22 years has sold more tickets or merch or been more successful than AEW. AEW's last valuation was set at over $400 million dollars and the company has been making a profit every year since 2020 according to Tony Khan. Those are all positives. Additionally, if running a wrestling company is the pre-requisite to get financing then no other buyer outside of the Khans would be able to get it. Fact is, it's not. The Khans are owners in two major industries the NFL and the Auto Industry and because of that and their $15+ billion in capital, they can easily get financing to buy WWE. But hey, I told everyone exactly what power Vince has and exactly what he would do and how he would do it to get back on the board and nobody believed me. Trust me, The Khans can buy WWE if they want to and if Vince would accept it. 100% fact.
@@Booth55555
“the company’s been making a profit every year since 2020 according to Tony Khan” - as a four-year old entertainment media operation, it’s doing incredibly well. As an established wrestling company? Even still it’s too soon to tell. Why, when they’re just figuring out how to get over serious human/public relations hurdles like you may have seen in the past year, would they purchase the WWE and give themselves even more work to upkeep? It makes zero logistical sense and it’d be a waste of money, especially when that money could be spent buying the entirety of the WWE’s roster that are about to walk out on humanitarian grounds and re-upping those TV deals (or better yet, getting better contract offers) which essentially renders your absolutist fact redundant
Oh, and on the note of you telling everyone how Vince was gonna hostile takeover his own board of directors, all very well and good, but the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund is probably gonna buy this comment thread also so it ultimately doesn’t matter
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimagine if he starts out turning all of HHH's improvements over on arrival to make a statement (a Vince thing to do).
Vince fires Steven Regal
Regal gets cozy spot with AEW
HHH gets hold of WWE
Regal quits cozy deal to work with HHH
A WILD VINCE THROWS THE UNO "REVERSE!" CARD AT REGAL
What improvements do you like?
09:01 Look at Dave with the Local H reference. Nice Dave!!
He was Bound for the Floor you say??
And u learn to accept it
@@stilnoxVisions Exactly!
If you were in the tippy top of top spots once, you don't come back without trying to get back into that spot at least once. Especially if you strong arm your way back in. Give it time.
Yeah, when it was Ray Rice, the media wanted to discuss ALL DAY. Now that it's Dana White Supremacist, RADIO SILENCE.
Does anybody think Triple H and Stephanie would walk away permanently if Vince ends up back as CEO or the head of creative? I think it's possible
Steph was on her way out before she became CEO to help her dad, so she may be out. Trips I think may end up retiring but he could go back to NXT full time with Shawn.
Holy frickin hell, Vince is never going to go away. I can bet Vince will sell the company to someone with conditions like whoever buys the company they have to keep Vince. He's kinda like a stray cat hanging around a house for sale, just hoping the new owner will take him in.
Multi-billionaire stray cat
The one thing about buying the WWE that I have not heard mention is that within the corporate structure of many of these networks, there are people just like Vince doing the same things as Vince is being accused of. It’s common in that work environment. I doubt many of them will have a problem looking the other way. Since it’s probably happening in their company as well.
No doubt. Rich old billionaires doing rich old billionaire things.
Vince is already like "whaddya mean I can't sell to the Saudis without congress' permission? ... Damn trump can't even rig an election right" 😂
Trump rig an election ? Just lost braincells reading that
@Oj Simp I'm from Scotland I get it they hate trump for some reason but how can they support biden guys a pervert there's compilations ffs and he is demented and corrupt or was before he was demented
@@liamfeely He'd still be president if that was true!
@Oj Simp All very bad, very evil
@@liamfeely trump tried to rig 2020, but failed. He's massively incompetent 😂. Bottom five president all time, but at least he secured Biden a legacy as the guy who fixed the trump problem.
Plus trump going to jail won't look great on his record 😂
WWE is a Leopard that doesn’t change its spots.
So, it seems that in the end MJF was right. There will be a bidding war of 2024. For WWE.
vince is absolutely a detriment to the wwe at this point and im completely on board with him coming back lol
I don't believe that this has to really do with money. Vince has made his fortune already and he has more money then he could spend in his lifetime. This is about power and possibly vengeance on the board and company for what he views as a betrayal. He will burn his creation to the ground to make his point.
It has everything to do with money in the corporate/media world lol
Vince will sell in 2023 considering the situation of Media industry
Take a shot every time Dave says “you know”
The issue with streaming companies buying the WWE is Peacock still has the streaming rights until what 2025? They're not going to buy it and not be able to have it.
@Steve Levington. Around 2025 to 2026 Peacock has the rights to stream WWE.
That’s one of the big reasons why Comcast/NBC U is the front runner to buy WWE, the other big reasons is NBC U have the TV rights to Raw and NXT on USA network, though that runs out in 2024.
The only thing NBC U don’t have is SmackDown which is on FOX and that deal will be running out in 2024.
Hulu also have some streaming rights for Raw, SmackDown and NXT but that is scheduled to run out in 2024.
Everything runs out in 2024 apart from Peacock’s streaming rights which will run out in 2025 or 2026.
Imo the 4 front runners to buy WWE are Comcast/NBC U, FOX, Endeavour (who own UFC), and the Saudi’s.
And all 4 if they bought WWE would probably keep the McMahon’s/Levesque’s in charge. And personally I don’t want that.
The other possibilities are Amazon, Disney, Netflix, Liberty Media, and Warner Bros Discovery (which are at the bottom of the list as Warner Bros Discovery want to cut costs).
Vince I think is starting to look at potential buyers as WWE in 2 years from now might not be worth as much.
It's happened before and the new company just got the money.
@@nu-metalfan2654 I see Comcast buying it and keeping Vinnie Mac in charge for as long as he wants to be. The Paul Levesque experiment is about to be over with very soon.
Despite his knowledge listening to Dave is incredibly painful. I long for Bryan to talk. Sorry
Vince McMahon doing the Karian kross pose, looking at the watch, to all the talent Triple H, brought back!😮
Speaking of Vince being back, Meltzer has become a still picture and scratchy audio again.
Hmm... are the two somehow related?
Don't believe anything Vince McMahon says,hes back for one reason,to take control of creative and ruin everything like he did before he left in July last year,,he cant stand the fact his family his running WWE better than he did,its his giant ego,if he ends up in charge what he did with Bruce Prichard previously will ruin the work Triple H did,he will fire someone he dosent like,make an embrassment out of someone,change their name to summit stupid,WWE will be unwatchable again all thanks to Vince McMahon ego
You marks really act like the booking has been that much different from what has happening prior.
@@willt8848 WWE fans have low standards. They consider the bare minimum good.
I'm not gonna feel bad for enjoying WWE under the Triple H era. I also enjoyed NXT when he ran it too. Doesn't make me a Triple H mark, I couldn't stand him as a wrestler but I have a stronger preference with the way he does things. I can't remember the last time the intercontinental championship was defended on a ppv when vince was running things and yet Triple H has had Gunther defend it numerous of times.. you know.. that championship back in the day that actually meant something? Like you were the next in line to be world champion. Or is adding relevancy to championship belts just not doing it for you? Let's go back to defending the intercontinental title once a year on a preshow instead!
Hopefully he’s come back to fire Hit Row
i have to believe that Trips will say NO or at least if Universal buys wwe that there exec's will say no to Vince. The Creative has been so much more better under Paul
Vince won't sell it to anybody that won't let him run it, that simple.
@@dogmd7 sadly i agree
@@dogmd7 Run it into the ground
Vinnie Mac is a mastermind. Say what you will about him and you may be right but he is going to do everything he can to get back his CEO position and he’s savvy enough to get it done. If he can’t by himself he will sell to someone who will let him run it.
Does anyone honestly believe Vince is not going to have anything to do with WrestleMania
He really couldn't help himself lol
You can tell Alvarez and Meltzer are LEGIT angry 😂 Cards on the table
The bigger story is that WWE might get sold!
F it. Back to watching AEW more.
Putting accountability on if a company is private or not, is suspicious
The smart approach would be to at least wait to July or longer to get back full control. Unfortunately, this is VINCE MCMAHON were talking about...
You know.
So I 1000% agree that Vince will be back in control sooner than later, however he has the SEC & the Feds to deal with because of the $$ he paid out and didn’t account for it correctly. I see them selling to the Saudi’s and going private to stay in control
So Vince is going to sale the company but insure he can still run the company? So why sell it because I don’t see Vince working for anyone
You know... beacuse you know... uhh I mean... you know what I mean?
The “Sale” is just Chekovs’ gun
Why not Uhura's gun?
Definitely going to happen though unfortunately
3:07 huh?
Can you name one single alpha male narcissistic sociopath in history who ever willingly walked away from their company to relax and enjoy their retirement and wealth? It's not in their nature to ever let go, or ever admit they were wrong. They all die on the job.
Do you think with the news out about the govt doing away with non-compete clauses, that this will accelerate the sale of WWE?
Ya know?
Does Vince really think he'll stay in control after a sale with all the allegations against him? The allegations aren't "yeah he did some bad shit sorry" it's a whole mess of allegations. And then what if the new owners aren't aware of all the shit he's alleged to have done over the decades, like the Superfly and Nancy Argentino murder cover up that was featured in Dark Side? The man has too much baggage to stay in control. Even if a new owner thinks Vince is great, surely public pressure and everything would loom over the new owners until something is done about it.
If it's sold and restructured as a private company and it's someone that really likes him, there is nothing they would have to do about it. Public pressure isn't the be all end all, Endeavor kept Dana White as the head of UFC despite his many controversies including abusing his girlfriend in the past week.
This is a TH-cam comment giving an opinion on the matter.
My real question is if WWE is sold for lets say $10 billion, Steph and HHH hold like 5% of the stock. That's a cool $500 million they can use to start their own wrestling promotion. And if they can replicate the success of AEW, which isn't losing money even on their first TV deal, they could feasibly use HHH NXT love to create a new organization. They could probably also get investors based on his success record so they don't have to put all the money on the line. Wrestlers and other wrestling people would love to a HHH/Steph organization. Would they do start a third brand??
If HHH start own promotion will be failure. Trust me, WWE monster brand worldwide, AEW will break HHH New Promotion easily.
You can learn from Dynamite beat NXT HHH before suffering heart attack.
Lol aew isn’t losing money? Best joke I’ve heard this year so far
@blablablaa. I can’t see WWE being sold for anything higher than 7 billion.
6 to 7 billion is about the right price.
@@gsesquire3441 You underestimate a workaholic.
A workaholic can’t relax because they are a workaholic.
And that’s what the McMahon’s are, they are workaholics.
I bet he wants his boy roman reigns
To be champion forever
Spit on out, Dave
I know everyone is all Doom and Gloom right now, but I still have some hope. And yes it’s the hope that kills.
The moment when I’m personally all Doom and Gloom is when there is likely of nothing changing, now there is a possibility of nothing changing, but there is also a possibility of things changing.
When Vince “retired” we was all hoping of change, but change didn’t come.
Hunter took over as head of creative and guys NOTHING HAS CHANGED with Hunter in charge.
Raw and SmackDown still looks the same, still feels the same, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
I hope as a lapsed fan that Vince sells WWE to a company that wants nothing to do with anyone named a McMahon, Levesque or Khan. And whoever buys WWE will turn it back to being private and will want big viewership and will allow creative freedom to achieve that.
All I want is for WWE to be a fun product like what it was 20 to 25 years ago again, that’s all I want. And for some reason people named McMahon, Levesque and Khan won’t give it to us.
Heyman should have creative control
@@blakemaxfield4267 If it was me I would have Bischoff in charge of the production side of things. And Co creative executives in Heyman and Cornette.
@@nu-metalfan2654 Cornette can't book for shit, I still don't get why do people even listen to that out of touch pile of trash.
Unfortunately we will never have what we had all those years ago. If they went private instead of public is the only way we would possibly get out of the PG that so many aren't fond of.
@@star22let1 I'd like that to have pg but then Vince would prob have full control and be able to diddle whoever he wants unfortunately
HE AIN'T SELLING NOTHING
WWE IS HE'S BABY
Wouldn’t it be weird if T K bought WWE and then fired Cody Rhodes and William regal
I hope Based Vince punishes all of Tony Khan's enemies.
Vincent McMahon will look at his roster call list...... WHO IN THE BLUE HELL HIRED FETUS AKA LUKE GALLOWS BACK. VINCENT MCMAHON FIRED THAT DUDE 8 TIMES NOW🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HHH did.
I hate to be Johnny Sameface right about now…
I knew Vince would come back who in the hell would buy the wwe and keep him in charge 😅
This was the least annoying Dave has been in awhile
Imagine if WWE sold to the Saudi government...
I would laugh if warner bros discovery buys WWE
And puts Tony Khan in charge. 😂
they are in billon dollar debt no way the have 10 billion to buy wwe aew most likley would be 3-4 billion
Can you intelligent young men answer me.... what is the use of having a board if they flat out are just useless in times like these ? Did I ask that right ? Lol
A carney is a carney
Saudis have the most money and the least accountability to shareholders
I hope he sells to them for the sake of the business
Meltzer is the absolute worst to listen to. Loves hearing himself talk
You left your notes at home, Dave? Lazy booking.
Poor William Regal (and others who just recently were re-hired.) Morale must have fallen off a cliff.
Bray Wyatt must be like got dam this sob is coming back their goes my
Career
@@tcd230 you realize it is Monday Night. Vince will fire everyone he thinks should have stayed fired and take control of creative. Then Vince will announce he is selling to Saudi who will give Vince Creative for life, and after death Vince will have written for him by his writing team 20 years worth of storylines, promos, complete with illustrations on how 'the guy' of the company is suppose to look.
Dave wasn't on camera and he's right back to rambling and not making any sense. He sounds like he has everything in the world stuck in his mouth
Drink every time he says "you know" or interrupts Brian.
He does-the appendages of Jericho, Omega, Bucks, Page & Ostrich.
@@daveborder7751 Cry
Well you know
16:22 "Look at Dana".. "Dana got into a lot of trouble"... Really Dave, really? How? His show got pushed back a week?? Really? So your telling me "trouble" for the rich and elite is just getting "grounded" for a week. Wow! I don't even know what to say...........
Wall Street Journal 🙏 help us.
Whoops
Like Vince or hate Vince it's he's company he should do went he wents with it
He's going to sell to Trump or Musk isn't he?
Poor bryan sucks at predictions. Vkm is back baby!!!! Let's go!!! 💰 🤑 💸
You used the right smileys, when it comes to money vinny mac knows what hes doing, shame the product gonna be dogshit television with him in creative again
@@d.ink3d The product isn't good now. Take away Sami and the Bloodline wtf do you have exactly? Not much. How all those resignings working out? Not well.
TK should buy it and then try to recreate the Vince Nitro speech, but in a stuttering beta wide-eyed deer in the headlights yelling kinda way and ruin it lmao.
For a journalist, the amount of hate dave has for Vince.
...I mean most NFL journalists are at best iffy about goodell
Imagine covering that much nonsense over that long a period of time... Of course he's gonna have some feelings, bro. That's the job... you see what the people are really like. The number of journalists that hated, say, Nixon was quite large
That's understandable. Vince done a lot of questionable things for years and years and years. Dave has been reporting on it throughout his life.
Meltzer isn't a journalist, he's a dude who just watches TV.
Can you blame him?
AEW to buy WWE. (confirmed!)
Oli Davis, is that you?
not even the khan familly has 10 billion to buy wwe
@@johansvensson833 yes they do. they just sell. one of their other, sports teams.
Vince wants to sell, who is to say he won't take total control to try and make it more marketable.
Disney is not buying anything right now. Lot of these companies are in financial trouble.
Disney just got a billion over a few years in savings from DeSantis' massive incompetence 👍