Sounds like Randon has a friend that has had troubles with permissions and grant orders in the not-so-distant past. I know of at least one tall girl that would nod vigorously at what he's saying here.
Yes, I think I know the scenario the orc speaks of. I recently heard of a fellow asking for warhammer perms and then everyone and their mother played it before him. So those situations do happen.
Game was one thing, I could only imagine how Randon's friend had a 'good' time asking permissions for game mods. Because playing New Vegas without any stability mods can wear at a man's soul.
I shudder just thinking of running that one off the box. Alas, having to rely on fan-made silent patches or source ports to run a game means it's practically inaccessible to corpo talents, which sucks big time as well.
There's a gremlin in an orange coat that took the correct route: embrace the FO:NV jank and watch the Gamebryo Engine collapse twelve times a stream from the 5,000 tin cans jangling around in her inventory.
It's wild that fair use doesn't protect game footage in Japan and companies just own footage of their own games (granted that's how plenty of other software works for making videos in the west and stuff). It's also kind of crazy it took emulating ghost trick for it to even come up with how tight the legal definitions are. But if it happened of course it was going to be capcom to break the ice and god knows what some random crazy dev or weird company that collects rights to games from dead companies could do...
Corpos are king in Japan. Allegedly, that's how Nintendo can pivot most copyright cases their way. They don't have fair use because corpos lobbied it not to be a thing.
@@Andysnyc The Japan system is based on expressed permissions, so either they need to ask for it... or the company has to release a statement giving permissions. (Like how Hololive has terms and conditions for fan works).
@@AndysnycJapan has in fact "unfair use" laws, if you don't have explicit written and signed permission to play, straight to jail. You know Japan is bad when I'm just a bozo in Brazil and corporate tells us to NEVER EVER mingle with Japan without a lawyer present.
@@zanard33 F*ck Corpos, and their BS copyright laws. They let a guy pay a fine for buying & owning CP, but they throw a gal in jail for 4-5 years for f*ckin' copyright violations.
Oh it's worse than you might think. Three in quick succession is a death sentence, but if you get one, attempt to appeal it, and in the million-to-one-odds an actual person sees that and, on behalf of the company issuing the strike *rejects* your appeal, your channel basically takes a bullet to the chest and is then so heavily compromised in functionality it might as well be dead already, at least that's how I remember it being in the height of the days of companies nuking channels for no reason.
It's less "corporate" and more an issue specifically of Japan's legal system. Gameplay footage of all kinds of generally considered a transformative work and falls under fair use outside of Japan and Japanese companies have learned that they REALLY don't have much of a legal leg to stand on going after people who made content out of their games outside of Japan. If you were a Japanese indie vtuber you'd also have that same sword of damocles hanging over your head. The reason that Japanese corpos have to abide by game perms is because legally speaking, any content that their talents produce is legally being published by the corporation regardless of where their employees live and because the corporation is in Japan they have to abide by Japanese copyright and IP laws rather than the far more permissive ones in the United States or Europe.
I cant imagine why any developer/publisher wouldn't want people streaming their games and make it as easy as possible, I discovered Abiotic factor from a Phase connect stream and sunk 113 hours to the point where I'm waiting for the next content drop
"I cant imagine why any developer/publisher wouldn't want people streaming their games" They think that someone watching the game being streamed is someone who won't buy the game, so instead of thinking of it as free advertising, they see a stream of their game with 100,000 views and think that that's 100,000 lost sales.
Even more so in the case of visual novels. This year there was a guy sent to jail for uploading gameplay of a new Steins Gate game right after launch, lmao
Always thought about doing streaming, but with the content stuff, perms, and all, I just gave up before even starting. The hassle and potential legal woes just make it not worth it. This is especially true when games can have their EULA re-written at any time.
This only applies for when you are a big company. The Moment big corpos go indie, the perms requierment goes out the window. Many of them have said so themself that they can finally do it without having to worry about that. So yeah go ahead.
If you stream for yourself or a few friends, never expecting to make a career out of it and just want to enjoy the games, go ahead. You may surprise yourself.
It's more an issue for vtubers who work for Japanese corporates like Anycolor, Brave Group, or Cover. Because they company owns the copyrights for the content their talents produce and are legally the ones publishing it, they have to abide by the copyright laws of the country the corporation operates in, which is Japan. Fun fact, this is why non-Japanese corporations with talents inside Japan don't have to be strict with game permissions: as an example Phase Connect has Japanese talents, but per my understanding those talents don't need to worry about Japanese copyright issues for their content because Phase Connect is a Canadian company and has to follow Canadian copyright laws rather than Japanese ones. So, as an indie outside of Japan, you really don't have anything to be worried about realistically.
Ah yes, I remember the "Great Perms Purge of 2020".
Lmao Xcom2 on the table
Sounds like Randon has a friend that has had troubles with permissions and grant orders in the not-so-distant past. I know of at least one tall girl that would nod vigorously at what he's saying here.
I assume that same tall girl broke said friend
@@Circ00mspice I meant that tall girl is his friend, but this interpretation works too.
Who's the tall girl
@@RaffyMaBoi Kronii. She has had notable problems with permissions in the past.
@@GoodOleDFTalright gimme it. Is this guy a former stars guy?
congrats on the pregnancy
haha yeah xcom 2 im glad you could play it!
Congratulations on new clip channel wooo (also lore)
Yes, I think I know the scenario the orc speaks of. I recently heard of a fellow asking for warhammer perms and then everyone and their mother played it before him. So those situations do happen.
I'm assuming the monster hunter?
By Warhammer, I assume you're referring to Space Marine 2? Oh man...
Game was one thing, I could only imagine how Randon's friend had a 'good' time asking permissions for game mods.
Because playing New Vegas without any stability mods can wear at a man's soul.
I shudder just thinking of running that one off the box. Alas, having to rely on fan-made silent patches or source ports to run a game means it's practically inaccessible to corpo talents, which sucks big time as well.
There's a gremlin in an orange coat that took the correct route: embrace the FO:NV jank and watch the Gamebryo Engine collapse twelve times a stream from the 5,000 tin cans jangling around in her inventory.
me wishing certain btubas to play vampire the masquerade bloodlines
It's wild that fair use doesn't protect game footage in Japan and companies just own footage of their own games (granted that's how plenty of other software works for making videos in the west and stuff).
It's also kind of crazy it took emulating ghost trick for it to even come up with how tight the legal definitions are. But if it happened of course it was going to be capcom to break the ice and god knows what some random crazy dev or weird company that collects rights to games from dead companies could do...
Corpos are king in Japan. Allegedly, that's how Nintendo can pivot most copyright cases their way. They don't have fair use because corpos lobbied it not to be a thing.
Fair use doesn't exist in Japan the way it does in The U.S., which is why companies over there have to be anal about that stuff.
@@Andysnyc The Japan system is based on expressed permissions, so either they need to ask for it... or the company has to release a statement giving permissions. (Like how Hololive has terms and conditions for fan works).
@@AndysnycJapan has in fact "unfair use" laws, if you don't have explicit written and signed permission to play, straight to jail.
You know Japan is bad when I'm just a bozo in Brazil and corporate tells us to NEVER EVER mingle with Japan without a lawyer present.
@@zanard33 F*ck Corpos, and their BS copyright laws. They let a guy pay a fine for buying & owning CP, but they throw a gal in jail for 4-5 years for f*ckin' copyright violations.
I see a Randon clip channel I click subscribed.
Sage wisdom from the Orc.
Is this an orc office worker vtuber, because that’s rad.
Hell yeah! He's a great streamer too on Twitch and TH-cam.
New channel yippee
We love perms!
Oooooh
So thats what happen huh....
TH-cam's strike policy sounds terrifying, I knew it was bullshit a lot of the time, but I didn't know it was only 3 strikes jeez.
Oh it's worse than you might think. Three in quick succession is a death sentence, but if you get one, attempt to appeal it, and in the million-to-one-odds an actual person sees that and, on behalf of the company issuing the strike *rejects* your appeal, your channel basically takes a bullet to the chest and is then so heavily compromised in functionality it might as well be dead already, at least that's how I remember it being in the height of the days of companies nuking channels for no reason.
If you get 2 strikes you cant even stream, he got a strike warning for orc massage upload for lewd audio.
As indie vTuber, there's no need for permissions, you can play any game you want on TH-cam or Twitch except banned ones or pornographic ones.
Nintendo Ninjas laughing menacingly
It's less "corporate" and more an issue specifically of Japan's legal system. Gameplay footage of all kinds of generally considered a transformative work and falls under fair use outside of Japan and Japanese companies have learned that they REALLY don't have much of a legal leg to stand on going after people who made content out of their games outside of Japan. If you were a Japanese indie vtuber you'd also have that same sword of damocles hanging over your head.
The reason that Japanese corpos have to abide by game perms is because legally speaking, any content that their talents produce is legally being published by the corporation regardless of where their employees live and because the corporation is in Japan they have to abide by Japanese copyright and IP laws rather than the far more permissive ones in the United States or Europe.
clip channel? pog
you know Randon would be a great CORPO vtuber (:
I cant imagine why any developer/publisher wouldn't want people streaming their games and make it as easy as possible, I discovered Abiotic factor from a Phase connect stream and sunk 113 hours to the point where I'm waiting for the next content drop
"I cant imagine why any developer/publisher wouldn't want people streaming their games"
They think that someone watching the game being streamed is someone who won't buy the game, so instead of thinking of it as free advertising, they see a stream of their game with 100,000 views and think that that's 100,000 lost sales.
Even more so in the case of visual novels. This year there was a guy sent to jail for uploading gameplay of a new Steins Gate game right after launch, lmao
Always thought about doing streaming, but with the content stuff, perms, and all, I just gave up before even starting. The hassle and potential legal woes just make it not worth it. This is especially true when games can have their EULA re-written at any time.
This only applies for when you are a big company. The Moment big corpos go indie, the perms requierment goes out the window. Many of them have said so themself that they can finally do it without having to worry about that. So yeah go ahead.
If you stream for yourself or a few friends, never expecting to make a career out of it and just want to enjoy the games, go ahead. You may surprise yourself.
It's more an issue for vtubers who work for Japanese corporates like Anycolor, Brave Group, or Cover. Because they company owns the copyrights for the content their talents produce and are legally the ones publishing it, they have to abide by the copyright laws of the country the corporation operates in, which is Japan. Fun fact, this is why non-Japanese corporations with talents inside Japan don't have to be strict with game permissions: as an example Phase Connect has Japanese talents, but per my understanding those talents don't need to worry about Japanese copyright issues for their content because Phase Connect is a Canadian company and has to follow Canadian copyright laws rather than Japanese ones.
So, as an indie outside of Japan, you really don't have anything to be worried about realistically.
what stream is this from?
Pre recorded earlier this year
Selfish.