Just to reiterate there are different playstyles that work! and yes this was only a 2k lobby, it was my alt and thought it was a good lobby to show playstyle with a good amount of mistakes as well. Games feel identical on my main in 2200s. One day I will actually push! xD
They have done us dirty man, I'm a lifetime druid main and I'm just having more fun on other healers right now. Glad you are making it work, I'll wait for the rework.
Hey markers, i gotta say i absolutely love these commentaries and i really think they could be a great way to improve for Rdruids everywhere. If you were to make a weekly series out of it i would watch every episode even though i've mained rduid since wrath. These are the guides that wow pvp actually needs.
I swapped like you suggested and i can't believe the difference in healing. I have way more time to look for cc and dmg than with keeper. Healling feels solid now
I feel like WS plays better with current tuning for sure. Like you said, keeper just spams regrowth and the throughout just isnt enough. If you can play WS well with the extra cc and constant disruption that truly shines through even if the heals aren't quite on par with other healers. Stopping damage is always better than outhealing anyway lol much more fun gameplay in my opinion
When the bottom part of the wild stalker tree procs dude... if you get just one proc of the hot it amps up the healing for that amount of time by so much. and if you get 2 or even 3 stacks! thats a swiftmend that will top anyone if it crits. Also itd be cool if we could see your healing breakdown after your games real quick. just put the mouse over your name on details just to see whats doin work.
Getting the crit talent for Regrowth can help when you have to spam it, but it still doesn't feel like it's enough. Nourish spam feels much better but of course that's incompatible with Keeper of the Grove.
How do you feel about using early spring pvp talent in solo? Feel like instant cast wild growths on the move that are applying lifeblooms every second cast adding to our symbiotic bloom chances. Just feels like we arent even playing to its full potential as we are only using 2 out of the 4 ways to get blooms. I know its something we dont use that much but i never feel like im going oom in solo. With the possibility of focused growth going in 11.07 could be interesting to try
I'd be curious to get more of a math breakdown on Wildstalker vs. Keeper of the Grove, Keeper definitely looks strong "on paper" but I have to admit I haven't tried Wildstalker much, especially out of 2s.
do symbiotic blooms count for a Mastery stack? If so, I can see the power a lot more clearly... The fact that Swiftmend puts a bloom on automatically for 8 seconds (Implant + Resilient Flourishing), and assuming 15% mastery, you're getting a 35% healing buff (Vigorous Creepers + Mastery) automatically after every swiftmend. Assuming no Renewing Surge, you get ~53% uptime on that 35%, plus the chance to proc more 20% stacks... definitely a pretty substantial flat buff.
I'm curious what the actual proc rate is on Thriving Growth, especially from Wild Growth... makes me wonder if Early Spring is worth playing in Shuffle. Mark do you have any "uptime" data you can share on the buff from your games?
It's always awesome to see your montage on rdruid and making it work with wildstalker! I understand that perhaps there is even more healing if played correctly with wildstalker but for someone who is more around ~2.1k xp and still working on other fundamentals of the game like positioning and max range clones do you think its better to play keeper? Druid already has more keybinds that disc/hpal combined and I think adding a kick, catweaving, etc. would just make it too difficult for the average player.
resto druid feels so bad , I have to work twice as hard to maintain half the Rating. I can't make it past 1850 , and that's with tons of practice and playing different variations. DPS just dies even with Full HOTS rolling, even when I am landing clones and roots. I get on my Disc Priest, and 2200 is almost effortless. I am doing everything you are in this video, even dropping tranquility early , and getting CC out of it. Maybe it is just the bracket, but DPS just don't survive, and I am putting out around the same healing numbers as the other healer, I just find it impossible to ever catch up.
Its definitely bad. Just how how bad? not sure, we definitely could use that 5% throughput buff rdruid got in pve though. If you look at the numbers, its pretty clear rdruid is not strong. The first resto druid is 41th on the ladder and over 100 points lower than the highest. Some of us make it work. If Druid throughput is bad in PVE but it gets pve buff and not pvp, then our throughput will be low in pvp too.
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Just to reiterate there are different playstyles that work! and yes this was only a 2k lobby, it was my alt and thought it was a good lobby to show playstyle with a good amount of mistakes as well. Games feel identical on my main in 2200s. One day I will actually push! xD
3s on rejuv is way stronger than 4% self healing, you could easily swap those.
They have done us dirty man, I'm a lifetime druid main and I'm just having more fun on other healers right now. Glad you are making it work, I'll wait for the rework.
What rework lol? This is how druid has played since boa at least
Hey markers, i gotta say i absolutely love these commentaries and i really think they could be a great way to improve for Rdruids everywhere. If you were to make a weekly series out of it i would watch every episode even though i've mained rduid since wrath. These are the guides that wow pvp actually needs.
You made me try out wildstalker in 2s and im definitely liking it! Keep up the good content! 👌🏼
I swapped like you suggested and i can't believe the difference in healing. I have way more time to look for cc and dmg than with keeper. Healling feels solid now
Keep going, those videos are just what i looked for. 2v2 convoke playstyle next please ;)
Great vid! What’s the song name in the background?
I feel like WS plays better with current tuning for sure. Like you said, keeper just spams regrowth and the throughout just isnt enough. If you can play WS well with the extra cc and constant disruption that truly shines through even if the heals aren't quite on par with other healers. Stopping damage is always better than outhealing anyway lol much more fun gameplay in my opinion
When the bottom part of the wild stalker tree procs dude... if you get just one proc of the hot it amps up the healing for that amount of time by so much. and if you get 2 or even 3 stacks! thats a swiftmend that will top anyone if it crits. Also itd be cool if we could see your healing breakdown after your games real quick. just put the mouse over your name on details just to see whats doin work.
Thx 4 the awesome video bro.
how are u able to see all your hots on the friendly arena frame? i just get to see 3
Bigdebuffs addon setting for 6
What addons are you using in your party frames to show all those hots? Mine is capping out at 3 so it's hard to tell what is up at times.
Enhanced raid frames
Bigdebuffs
@@MMARKERS I use both, didn't know Big debuffs could do that too!
What talents could be flexed out for Dreamstate? You mentioned some could, but not specifics.
Id prob drop regenesis point
Hey mmarkers, enjoying the content. Was curious what that addon is that is tracking your lifebloom and focused growth stacks. Thanks man!
Type !lifebloom in my twitch chat
How to track more than 3 buffs on party frame pls help me
Bigdebuffs has a setting to inc to 6
Getting the crit talent for Regrowth can help when you have to spam it, but it still doesn't feel like it's enough. Nourish spam feels much better but of course that's incompatible with Keeper of the Grove.
How do you feel about using early spring pvp talent in solo? Feel like instant cast wild growths on the move that are applying lifeblooms every second cast adding to our symbiotic bloom chances. Just feels like we arent even playing to its full potential as we are only using 2 out of the 4 ways to get blooms. I know its something we dont use that much but i never feel like im going oom in solo. With the possibility of focused growth going in 11.07 could be interesting to try
Def an option in high aoe lobbies (aff lock)
I'd be curious to get more of a math breakdown on Wildstalker vs. Keeper of the Grove, Keeper definitely looks strong "on paper" but I have to admit I haven't tried Wildstalker much, especially out of 2s.
do symbiotic blooms count for a Mastery stack? If so, I can see the power a lot more clearly...
The fact that Swiftmend puts a bloom on automatically for 8 seconds (Implant + Resilient Flourishing), and assuming 15% mastery, you're getting a 35% healing buff (Vigorous Creepers + Mastery) automatically after every swiftmend.
Assuming no Renewing Surge, you get ~53% uptime on that 35%, plus the chance to proc more 20% stacks... definitely a pretty substantial flat buff.
I'm curious what the actual proc rate is on Thriving Growth, especially from Wild Growth... makes me wonder if Early Spring is worth playing in Shuffle. Mark do you have any "uptime" data you can share on the buff from your games?
Its a mastery stack, and 20% inc healing per stack
That’s pretty sick!
It's always awesome to see your montage on rdruid and making it work with wildstalker! I understand that perhaps there is even more healing if played correctly with wildstalker but for someone who is more around ~2.1k xp and still working on other fundamentals of the game like positioning and max range clones do you think its better to play keeper? Druid already has more keybinds that disc/hpal combined and I think adding a kick, catweaving, etc. would just make it too difficult for the average player.
For the the stuff you're mentioning i don't think it matters which you play. Id try both!
Im surprised you can keep people up so easily without the increased hot tick rate from self-lifeblooming!
Wildstalker!? 🤷♂️
resto druid feels so bad , I have to work twice as hard to maintain half the Rating. I can't make it past 1850 , and that's with tons of practice and playing different variations. DPS just dies even with Full HOTS rolling, even when I am landing clones and roots. I get on my Disc Priest, and 2200 is almost effortless. I am doing everything you are in this video, even dropping tranquility early , and getting CC out of it. Maybe it is just the bracket, but DPS just don't survive, and I am putting out around the same healing numbers as the other healer, I just find it impossible to ever catch up.
Healing is mot easy this xpac. Game is so fast. Any healer outside the top healers is a struggle
wow, waking dream heals based on rejuvs you have out, think how many you have out in bg/blitz with double rejuv
It’s bad, it really is that bad 😂
Its definitely bad. Just how how bad? not sure, we definitely could use that 5% throughput buff rdruid got in pve though. If you look at the numbers, its pretty clear rdruid is not strong. The first resto druid is 41th on the ladder and over 100 points lower than the highest. Some of us make it work. If Druid throughput is bad in PVE but it gets pve buff and not pvp, then our throughput will be low in pvp too.
Thats worst luby for mw monk isnt that , hunter Sp pala hes incap is sux hes leg is sux so thats about luby i think