Thanks Andrew for some great questions, finally got Izzy to say something beyond the standard nonduality phrases that get repeated over and over. And thanks Izzy for the more detailed responses!
What a total delight to meet you Izzy in real time (real late nz time that is!) ....hilarious, yes for sure, massive resonance, for sure, but also, impenetrably unfathomable, especially the 'no experience' bit....the senses work, functionality still seems intact, there is spatial awareness, for purely practical reasons. As you say, 'this is death!', or, life is apparently happening 'by itself'. Thank you again Izzy for the wonderful meeting! Much love❤☺
Hi Izzy this is Annabelle - we met at the Non Duality Cafe in Hartfield/Forest Row some time ago. Sadly I can’t find your latest TH-cam and wonder if you are still around this area or have gone elsewhere. If you are around these parts please can you let me know where to find your TH-cam channel? Sending you love Annabelle
Hiya Annabelle! Lovely to hear from you :) This is still my TH-cam channel. There haven't been any scheduled meetings for a while, hence why there are no uploads. The next in-person meeting is in Amsterdam October 28-29. Wishing you all the best and much love. Perhaps see you soon. Izzy :) xx
I'll try to make a zoom to ask this question but if I don't I'll ask it here anyway - Tony/Jim and yourself all say the same thing about Death - this is it, there is no experience, it's just boundless freedom appearing as this - and after the death of the body the I dies anyway. My question is after the death of the body - is there anything to stop another 'apparently happening' to apparently happen? Thanks for any replies.
There is no after the death of the body, since there is no before. For there to be “another apparent happening” it is assumed that there is already one “here” to begin with. Which there isn’t. What appears to happen is nothing. Nothing being everything. With best wishes! Izzy 💛
@@thisboundlessfreedom Thanks Izzy. I realise that your pointing here is vastly more important than my *idea* of any continuation of the nothing appearing as everything, or even if there *is* a continuation. Which of course there can't be and never was .Continuity is an experience of 'from there to here' . Experience can't happen because there is no person to experience -and continuation is also impossible because time is only an apparent experience of apparent change from the illusionary centre of a person. There was no there and no here. It's all nothing apparently manifesting as here. Yet the ignorant-within-the-dream question still bugs me :D Anyway I think with in the dreaming there could be an apparent light and sound show going on regardless of the body. Jim said once the absolute nothing/all there is is not at all dependent on the body. Anything as Tony said, can apparently happen. Ghosts for example. So it's not important but I think yeah nothing can take many apparent forms. No beginning no end as it were. Anyway just a within the dream question I understand. Heh. Best Wishes to you too. I've been enjoying your videos a lot! Thanks again!
Hey Izzy, interesting chat with the painter. This (I) is having the experience of a memory of having an experience as an infant. The experience was a difficulty in understanding or accepting that before I was born, before I existed, that anything else existed either. If this experience happened at all, which it sounds like it didn’t, but if it did at all then I find myself wondering whether the child who ‘experienced’ it and had only very recently ‘crossed over’ into this apparent life and awareness had a greater understanding of the apparent explanation that there is no beginning, no end and no separation. Would you say that infants might have a greater intuitive understanding of what it means to transition between such apparent states, and why the idea of being an individual feels so alien that it needs to be merely accepted as a leap of faith before it is understood as a ‘concept’, in the manner of which we ‘think’ we understand anything? Perhaps I should just ‘think’ less and paint more :)
For the so-called person this would feel to be a big deal. The biggest fear, one could say. For the so-called person such a shift is death. But of course such a shift never actually happens. It is only ever apparent. There is already no-one. Shifts are impossible. ❤️
@@thisboundlessfreedom the loss of the illusory sense of self is definitely a huge shift, that’s undeniable 🤷🏼♂️, it can be explained that, yes there is a shift from self to no self, and it’s significant difference to suddenly not being located anywhere, not being aware, etc., or you can say it’s just an “apparent” shift and nothing “really “ happens. But since everything is just apparent, then saying nothing really happens is misleading, and just confuses your listeners . For example, winning a lottery, you would have to describe as that nothing happened as well, because it’s all just apparent. Even there would be big emotions, changes, etc. Using the word apparent as an explanation that nothing happens, in the reality where everything is only apparent, is incorrect, or at least very misleading 🤷.
the thing i dont get is why there are many people who talk just like tony parsons. if there is infinite, unbound energy, there must be infinite ways to talk about unlimited freedom/uncondtional love? but it appears that there are those who speak with the exact same intonation as tony. no offense here, its just that if needed tony's message i'd head there :)
Hm. My good people. This is probably gonna trigger some of you. But you have to remember that the story being told that "there is no one" is also just a story. It is also just a story! And this is Izzy's story being told (no offense Izzy). But if you truly get this message "you" quickly realize that saying there is "no one" is the same as saying "there is someone" lol. Some say there is nothing but it could also be everything, fullness, me-ness, energetic, whatever really. Thats the mysterious paradox. Wrap your mind around that, as it can be really confusing listening to the "there is no one" story. Perhaps what could be making this approach useful for some would be that it somewhat points towards this "thing" that cannot me defined with words. But you would actually find more holistic and easier approaches to this within advaita vedanta. For example check out Rupert Spira and his self-inquiry approach "are you aware". Diving into that specific inquiry actually led to this shift happening for me. Or look into the contemporary philosopher Bernardo Kastrup. Remember! "There is no one" is just a story like any other story.
A load of cringe worthy waffle. Why do these people keep talking about how they have nothing to say, yet they keep talking! And to who exactly? The air? Just trying to make money of people talking nonsense
Thanks Andrew for some great questions, finally got Izzy to say something beyond the standard nonduality phrases that get repeated over and over. And thanks Izzy for the more detailed responses!
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❣️Thanks Izzy ❣️
Thanks Julian! Much love ♥️☺️
lovely thanks Izzy
Thanks David! ☺️
Very strong transmission of love thank you
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What a total delight to meet you Izzy in real time (real late nz time that is!) ....hilarious, yes for sure, massive resonance, for sure, but also, impenetrably unfathomable, especially the 'no experience' bit....the senses work, functionality still seems intact, there is spatial awareness, for purely practical reasons. As you say, 'this is death!', or, life is apparently happening 'by itself'.
Thank you again Izzy for the wonderful meeting! Much love❤☺
It was so lovely to meet and speak with you Andrew. Albeit virtually! Much love 💙❤️
Izzy would absolutely agree. It is the apparent opposite of “there is someone”.
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I had 30 years of spiritual seeking and it all disappeared within one month of first hearing this message
😅 on totally. Can simply collapse just like that 😊💛
My dad died many years ago, but every few days or so, he goes around for no reason, telling anyone that will listen, that he is dead.
Hi Izzy this is Annabelle - we met at the Non Duality Cafe in Hartfield/Forest Row some time ago. Sadly I can’t find your latest TH-cam and wonder if you are still around this area or have gone elsewhere. If you are around these parts please can you let me know where to find your TH-cam channel?
Sending you love
Annabelle
Hiya Annabelle! Lovely to hear from you :) This is still my TH-cam channel. There haven't been any scheduled meetings for a while, hence why there are no uploads. The next in-person meeting is in Amsterdam October 28-29. Wishing you all the best and much love. Perhaps see you soon. Izzy :) xx
I'll try to make a zoom to ask this question but if I don't I'll ask it here anyway -
Tony/Jim and yourself all say the same thing about Death - this is it, there is no experience, it's just boundless freedom appearing as this - and after the death of the body the I dies anyway.
My question is after the death of the body - is there anything to stop another 'apparently happening' to apparently happen?
Thanks for any replies.
There is no after the death of the body, since there is no before. For there to be “another apparent happening” it is assumed that there is already one “here” to begin with. Which there isn’t. What appears to happen is nothing. Nothing being everything. With best wishes! Izzy 💛
@@thisboundlessfreedom Thanks Izzy.
I realise that your pointing here is vastly more important than my *idea* of any continuation of the nothing appearing as everything, or even if there *is* a continuation.
Which of course there can't be and never was .Continuity is an experience of 'from there to here' . Experience can't happen because there is no person to experience -and continuation is also impossible because time is only an apparent experience of apparent change from the illusionary centre of a person. There was no there and no here. It's all nothing apparently manifesting as here.
Yet the ignorant-within-the-dream question still bugs me :D
Anyway I think with in the dreaming there could be an apparent light and sound show going on regardless of the body.
Jim said once the absolute nothing/all there is is not at all dependent on the body.
Anything as Tony said, can apparently happen. Ghosts for example. So it's not important but I think yeah nothing can take many apparent forms. No beginning no end as it were. Anyway just a within the dream question I understand. Heh.
Best Wishes to you too. I've been enjoying your videos a lot!
Thanks again!
Hi Izzy What about near-death experiences? Or the same nde❤❤❤❤
Hi Izzy, if i plant a carrot seed i can get tomatos ?
Hey Izzy, interesting chat with the painter.
This (I) is having the experience of a memory of having an experience as an infant.
The experience was a difficulty in understanding or accepting that before I was born, before I existed, that anything else existed either.
If this experience happened at all, which it sounds like it didn’t, but if it did at all then I find myself wondering whether the child who ‘experienced’ it and had only very recently ‘crossed over’ into this apparent life and awareness had a greater understanding of the apparent explanation that there is no beginning, no end and no separation.
Would you say that infants might have a greater intuitive understanding of what it means to transition between such apparent states, and why the idea of being an individual feels so alien that it needs to be merely accepted as a leap of faith before it is understood as a ‘concept’, in the manner of which we ‘think’ we understand anything?
Perhaps I should just ‘think’ less and paint more :)
Hi Izzy, but what about the loss of being aware of thinks, and no location anymore , that seems like a big shift 🤷
For the so-called person this would feel to be a big deal. The biggest fear, one could say. For the so-called person such a shift is death. But of course such a shift never actually happens. It is only ever apparent. There is already no-one. Shifts are impossible. ❤️
@@thisboundlessfreedom the loss of the illusory sense of self is definitely a huge shift, that’s undeniable 🤷🏼♂️, it can be explained that, yes there is a shift from self to no self, and it’s significant difference to suddenly not being located anywhere, not being aware, etc., or you can say it’s just an “apparent” shift and nothing “really “ happens. But since everything is just apparent, then saying nothing really happens is misleading, and just confuses your listeners . For example, winning a lottery, you would have to describe as that nothing happened as well, because it’s all just apparent. Even there would be big emotions, changes, etc.
Using the word apparent as an explanation that nothing happens, in the reality where everything is only apparent, is incorrect, or at least very misleading 🤷.
the thing i dont get is why there are many people who talk just like tony parsons. if there is infinite, unbound energy, there must be infinite ways to talk about unlimited freedom/uncondtional love? but it appears that there are those who speak with the exact same intonation as tony. no offense here, its just that if needed tony's message i'd head there :)
You seem so young 😊 do you live with your parents ?
Hm. My good people. This is probably gonna trigger some of you. But you have to remember that the story being told that "there is no one" is also just a story. It is also just a story! And this is Izzy's story being told (no offense Izzy). But if you truly get this message "you" quickly realize that saying there is "no one" is the same as saying "there is someone" lol. Some say there is nothing but it could also be everything, fullness, me-ness, energetic, whatever really. Thats the mysterious paradox. Wrap your mind around that, as it can be really confusing listening to the "there is no one" story. Perhaps what could be making this approach useful for some would be that it somewhat points towards this "thing" that cannot me defined with words. But you would actually find more holistic and easier approaches to this within advaita vedanta. For example check out Rupert Spira and his self-inquiry approach "are you aware". Diving into that specific inquiry actually led to this shift happening for me. Or look into the contemporary philosopher Bernardo Kastrup. Remember! "There is no one" is just a story like any other story.
A load of cringe worthy waffle. Why do these people keep talking about how they have nothing to say, yet they keep talking! And to who exactly? The air? Just trying to make money of people talking nonsense