I’m in south China, in a city called Huizhou, drinking some Crozes-Hermitage and have just finished listening to your French Revolution series. I’m pretty speechless, what phenomenal drama you have unfolded, and with what clarity and style. Thanks guys. Vive The Rest Is History.
Are you Chinese? Why isn't TH-cam also filled with histories of China. I am sure there are many periods in China's long history which are equally engrossing, pivotal, cataclysmic, etc.
Totally enjoying this series on the French Revolution ... have already listened to all 8 episodes ... and now re-listening to each one of them to see what detail I might have missed ... this series is a triumph😍 Thank you so much🙏🏽
I grew up poor in the Southern United States but my mother had a thing for trying to show us what she could show us of culture. The local supermarket had a series called the great artists and they had a different one every month. I believe there was something like 24 of them and my mother bought them all. The one that always stuck with me was The Death of Marat by David. It's still bouncing around in my mind today and every time I see something about the French revolution it's one of the first images I conjure up.
God bless your mother. Madame Roland was part of the enlightenment that wanted to put and end to French feudalism, but she fell victim to the revolutionary terror. Before being decapitated, she looked into the horizon and said "Oh, liberty, so many crimes committed in your name".
Yes, I collected that series too in the mid 80s while working at a mannequin factory, repairing them. The next year I ended up leaving and going to art school to study painting. Great series as you say, always gave a run down of the artist as well as their time.
I'm in the south of Brazil, it's a hot friday night, this delightful podcast has entertained and educated me for the whole week, and now, as I sit down drinking a caipirinha, I will listen to the sixth episode of this series. Thank you very much for your amazing work!
I've just stumbled upon this channel and have already watched five videos. Very impressed and hope this channel gains the much wider audience that it deserves.
Hello everyone! Just to let you know, the last Fall of the Sioux episodes will be out in the coming weeks. We wanted to ensure that the French Revolutions episodes are released as video around the same time as the audio version. All the best, The Rest is History Team.
(QUESTION, from a U.S. teacher). Dear Tom & Dom: I have a historical question to ask about Marie Antoinette. At the time of her death, if I'm not mistaken her mother, Maria Thèrése, was already dead. I'm curious to know what was the reaction, back in Austria to the news of her death? Did anyone record what the sentiment was, back in her native country? Thanks for considering my questions.
For a history lover, this has been an incredibly enjoyable account of Marie Antoinette! I've listed to several of your French Revolution historical accounts and want to thank you both for your wonderfully entertaining portrayal of late 18th century France.
I was born and raised in the military, and as my father was stationed in different countries, We would accompany him when we were allowed to. Having changed schools so very often, there were classes that I was not able to excel in, or even actually study. I'm just now becoming interested in history, and have developed a real fondness for this subject. I can see how it would have been very helpful in my youth to have learned these things, though I think my ego might have filled any room that I walked into. 😉 Thank you for such wonderful dialogue, and the book recommendation. I'm looking forward to learning more about history through your channel.
Your podcast on the French revolution was an absolute tour de force ! It is amazing how Marie Antoinette has been so unfairly vilified particularly with an incorrect quotation having been attributed to her. I look forward to the next series in autumn. PS - when are you returning for a live show to Ireland ?
Ironically, Coppola’s film found its structure, and many of its most famous lines, from Lady Antonia Fraser’s magisterial 2001 biography of the tragic Queen. I’ve just discovered your channel-oh, happy day! Thank you from the United States. 🇫🇷🇦🇹🇺🇸
The portrayal of Queen Marie Antoinette in the inauguration show of the Olympic Games in Paris last week was gross and offensive. Western Europe takes pride in banning death penalty, but then some people applaud the image of an innocent woman decapitated more than 200 years ago. That queen had no power over the government budget or politics. She was confined to the court etiquette. She was accused of crimes and obscenities she didn't commit. But she had to be killed, in the name of extremism (revolution) to please a bunch of (male) assassins, many of whom had the same end (ironies of destiny).
Very well expressed, she was the victim of the Terror, the hatred of the revolutionaries, and the French Revolution that 4 years later winds up where it all started, an absolutist monarchy with Monsieur Napoleon!
A strange thing I heard was that at the time, Europe was going through a mini ice-age which was making it extremely difficult to grow the usual crops. Apparently the Thames was frozen solid so regularly that massive markets were regularly held on it. A new crop called 'potatoes' had been brought back from the new world and since it grew underground, was proving to be able to survive the extreme cold weather. The French wouldn't plant potatoes believing they were an inferior food, so whilst other countries survived the widespread crop failures by relying on the more hardy new-at-the-time potato, the French people were starving and getting closer and closer to uprising. Interesting. Here's a doc about it : th-cam.com/video/VTW2Sczq2NA/w-d-xo.html
I recall that at this time , the government stop storing grain, but allowed it to be controlled by the free market. The Free Market held the grain back for higher profits.
It’s a bit more complicated than that, and the frost fairs on the Thames were probably more the result of the flow of the river being slowed by the piers of old London Bridge than the cold weather. However, winters were harder than now and the fact that the French government had tried to be more modern by adopting freer trade and allowing the export of grain, hence causing shortages at home, didn’t help.
(U.S. teacher, here). Thank you for mentioning where you are posting from. As both a former student, a lover of history and now a teacher in my own right..... I have often wondered what type of image Marie Antoinette held over the centuries in your country, of Austria. In other words is she still or was she ever a 'revered figure' to the Austrian people? Or .... did the Austrian people just not care about her one way or the other? The only thing that I knew about Austria after, MA's 'deletion' was that the people of Austria were extremely outraged, and very upset in the immediate aftermath of her death. However I never knew how much longer after that, that the feelings of anger and disgust, lasted. Can you elaborate? Thank You.
Marie Antoinette is just like Ann Boleyn , wrong place , wrong time in a world dominated by men , be it male heirs or revolution , timing was everything , in fact , it still is
Similar but not the same. Anne was very well educated and well read. She was highly influenced by powerful women at the Austrian and then the French court where she served. She had the audacity to demand to be Queen not just Heney's official mistress. Like Marie Antoinette, she was largely hated by the people. She was often booed and was called " the great whore". She exerted her influence with Henry and alienated her Uncle The Duke of Norfolk and crossed her early ally the powerful Thomas Cromwell who would orchestrate her downfall when Henry wanted rid if her. Like Marie Antoinette she was falsely accused of terrible things and unjustly executed.
I appreciate the normal episode names! I understand the algorithm game must be played, but this makes it infinitely easier to browser the backlog of videos.
Given Marie Antoinette’s appearance at the long-running saga that was the Olympic Opening Ceremony, I think we can consider your proposition that she stands (in the popular mind) for the Revolution well and truly proved! Ps read Citizens when doing a historiography on the Terror at A-Level, such a good book!
Re hairstyles, Madame de Sevigne would send a doll with the hair in the latest style like the hurlu-burlu to her beloved daughter in the hinterlands of Provence (where her son-in-law served Louis XIV? as governor.) To help her daughter stay au courrant. I heard there used to be French scholars called sevignistes, Who were dedicated to the study of Madame de S's letters. Could you do a series on Madame de Sevigne? So smart, virtuous, rich, industrious and funny. I always thought that she could be plopped down in our midst and prove how timeless human nature is. In her case, it's largely the good & refined side.
The Coppola film on the face of it is vacuous, but it’s soundtrack especially makes it excellent. History hasn’t really been done in such a contemporary style (despite its obvious period visuals) since. As a student of the French Revolution in my university days, it captured my imagination on the subject in a way that I struggled to connect with otherwise.
Learning the history of the potato in France and Louis' efforts to give it to his subjects, puts a different light on some of the story. A man who would be so pleased with the man who fronted the effort to the pount of declaring him 'the man who brought bread to the people!' shows someone who was cincious of the issue. The French were so suspicious that they would eat them.
I've never realized that Marie Antoinette was the queen of France for so long. She managed to make it 18 years which is very surprising to me because of the state of the court and the state of the nation.
I've been listening to the podcast in 2024, so I'm kinda new to the show. I always pictured Tom as Richard Ayoade, that accent 😅. First time I see them on video
During 10th grade world history class I was chosen to play Marie Antoinette during a staged trial. My teacher told me before I took the stand that there was no evidence Marie Antoinette actually said "let them eat cake". When the question came up I forgot this. I used as my defense that as queen I didn't even know where the palace kitchens were much less that the same ingredients that made bread made cake and that my comment wasn't out of malice but out of ignorance. I then asked the person questioning me if they knew how to make bread.
18:22 If you can say Vers-ailles, you can say No-ailles, easy as pie. It's simply NO+Versailles without the vers. British guys have me glued to my earbuds delving into the French Revolution!
Two films out of Hollywood that are worth a watch if you're interested in amazing portrayals of Catherine the Great of Russia, or Marie Antoinette: The Scarlet Empress (1934) directed by Josef Von Sternberg and starring Marlene Dietrich/Marie Antoinette starring Tyrone Power and Norma Shearer (1938). Don't expect historical accuracy, but do expect amazing film making!
John Hardman is an industrious scholar who seems to have made the mistake of identifying with his subject. He tries to make Marie a political player reaching out to Barneve --AFTER the flight to Varennes, when she had little or no political capital left. Barneve realized she was trying to play him and broke it off. Her judgement of others, when she deigned to exercise it, was deplorable. She put all her trust in the Idiot Ferson, who planned and executed the hapless failed escape. When it started, she was heard to say how much it would vex Lafayette, whom she hated. Long afterwards her daughter Marie Therese, the sole survivor of the family, and the woman Napoleon called "the only man among the Bourbons", said that had her parents trusted Lafayette more they might have survived the revolution.
Oh good grief, Jackpot! There is still something fascinating & worthwhile to be found for everyone no matter what their interests on TH-cam, especially if we have many interests. It can still be like the old days.
I think I remember another historian saying the formisis idea was ruled out because the operation would have made long hours in the saddle to go hunting impossibly painful immediately after, but Louis' diary shows no slowing down on the hunting in the time when the operation would have happened.
Wow, it's Tom Holland's podcast? I'm a huge fan of yours! Especially thankful for your brilliant invective against Christianity that brought the woke scourge of female rights into the world! - Adûnâi
The French Revolution is very special to me, was the topic of my A Level course work and my overall emotions are that it was a tragedy of inadequacy. Louis 16 was just a weak man without the courage or intellectual inspiration to deal with the crisis, he should have been a country gentleman hunting and spending time reading science in a study, not the monarch of France.
Lady Bracknell: "... which reminds one of the worst excesses of the French revolution. And we all know what this unfortunate movement led to..." (Oscar Wilde)
One of the 2-3 most well-known people in all French history? I'm not sure sure what they taught in England around 1990, but I would have Napoléon Bonaparte, Louis XIV and Jeanne d'Arc clearly above her. We can debate whether Vercingetorix and Charlemagne count as part of French history, but they would surely eclipse her. I reckon she's in a B-tier alongside her husband, de Gaulle, Curie, Pasteur, Cousteau, Robespierre, and a bunch of writers, philosophes and sportspersons.
Though it takes place some years after the revolution, I love Marat/Sade (especially the brilliant RSC film production) as an elegant but brutal assessment of the historical moment.
Wonderful chaps. Initially concerned that with talk of cake and bourbons, cats and dolphins, TRIH had gone to the dogs. There's something poetic about £1-10 croissants and concern that the plebs are eating their burgers in brioche buns. The most horrifying future event I can imagine from this so far isn't The Terror, but the fact that with such "liberal" clothing, bowlers would be bowling underarm this very day!!
Marie Antoinette would certainly have had someone read to her. Technically she never cracked open the book. The original audiobook, if you could afford it.
Do you mean La Comtesse of Noailles? (1.00.09). Weirdly enough, the word, despite all its vowels can be pronounced if you look at it this way: No-Ailles. You know how to pronounce NO (since the age of 2) as for -AILLES, think of AIL (the word for garlic, in french) and then put the 2 sounds together as smoothly as possible.. It works , it's feasible.
What she was supposed to have said was NOT cake as in a Gâteau, but a cake as in brioche, which was the hard crust on the outside that the poor would buy (like day old bread, which is usually half price or less) and soften it in their tea to make it edible. Nonetheless, she never said it.
something i saw on a historical food video was something that seemed surprising to me...on the table of the king and queen they probably had some coarse bread to show their support of the revolutionaries...so was there a period leading up to when the revolution was clearly their enemy that the royalty fancied themselves cheering for the revolution?? that seems insane...but then i suppose when if the upper class is detached from reality any strange fanciful fad might be embraced...?
I’m in south China, in a city called Huizhou, drinking some Crozes-Hermitage and have just finished listening to your French Revolution series. I’m pretty speechless, what phenomenal drama you have unfolded, and with what clarity and style. Thanks guys. Vive The Rest Is History.
I’m also interested in Chinese history as I recently watched the Silk Road documentary.
Loved the French Revolution episodes, very gripping
@@deflategate1297Chinese history is incredibly fascinating
Are you Chinese? Why isn't TH-cam also filled with histories of China. I am sure there are many periods in China's long history which are equally engrossing, pivotal, cataclysmic, etc.
Get out whilst you can mate
Totally enjoying this series on the French Revolution ... have already listened to all 8 episodes ... and now re-listening to each one of them to see what detail I might have missed ... this series is a triumph😍 Thank you so much🙏🏽
I grew up poor in the Southern United States but my mother had a thing for trying to show us what she could show us of culture. The local supermarket had a series called the great artists and they had a different one every month. I believe there was something like 24 of them and my mother bought them all. The one that always stuck with me was The Death of Marat by David. It's still bouncing around in my mind today and every time I see something about the French revolution it's one of the first images I conjure up.
God bless your mother. Madame Roland was part of the enlightenment that wanted to put and end to French feudalism, but she fell victim to the revolutionary terror. Before being decapitated, she looked into the horizon and said "Oh, liberty, so many crimes committed in your name".
What did they sell?
@@frankieamsden7918 what did who sell? The store she bought them from was our local Safeway. They sold groceries.
Yes, I collected that series too in the mid 80s while working at a mannequin factory, repairing them. The next year I ended up leaving and going to art school to study painting. Great series as you say, always gave a run down of the artist as well as their time.
I'm in the south of Brazil, it's a hot friday night, this delightful podcast has entertained and educated me for the whole week, and now, as I sit down drinking a caipirinha, I will listen to the sixth episode of this series. Thank you very much for your amazing work!
I've just stumbled upon this channel and have already watched five videos. Very impressed and hope this channel gains the much wider audience that it deserves.
Si convancainte ! Le série entière est magnétique. C'est si bon, Thomas et Dominique. Chapeau !
Je viens de regarder leur série (onze parties!) sur Custer et les Sioux . Incroyable !!!
Please do Lawrence of Arabia one day - I need to separate Peter O’Toole from the real man.
I studied at Oxford University and they will never tell the truth.
Good call
o'toole was well cast by Lean he captures the romantic/poetic nature of Lawrence very well. read Seven Pillars of Wisdom to know Lawrence
Absolutely !
That would be great. The remastered version of that film is wonderful.
Hello everyone!
Just to let you know, the last Fall of the Sioux episodes will be out in the coming weeks.
We wanted to ensure that the French Revolutions episodes are released as video around the same time as the audio version.
All the best,
The Rest is History Team.
Thank god
Glad we’re back to regular uploads!
You guys rule
Found you through my deep dive into Custer last stand and now staying for the French revolution.
(QUESTION, from a U.S. teacher).
Dear Tom & Dom:
I have a historical question to ask about Marie Antoinette. At the time of her death, if I'm not mistaken her mother, Maria Thèrése, was already dead. I'm curious to know what was the reaction, back in Austria to the news of her death? Did anyone record what the sentiment was, back in her native country?
Thanks for considering my questions.
Referencing Marie Antoinette, Mean Girls, and Cruel Intentions. Tom is really letting his inner teenage girl out in this one 😂
Yes!
As always, pure gold.
Thank you
YT algorithm recommended you, listened 10 minutes, subscribed. Excellent show, looking forward to exploring your catalog!
Brilliant, as always!
I listened to all episodes of the French revolution and cannot wait for the continuation!
Thanks!
For a history lover, this has been an incredibly enjoyable account of Marie Antoinette! I've listed to several of your French Revolution historical accounts and want to thank you both for your wonderfully entertaining portrayal of late 18th century France.
I was born and raised in the military, and as my father was stationed in different countries, We would accompany him when we were allowed to.
Having changed schools so very often, there were classes that I was not able to excel in, or even actually study.
I'm just now becoming interested in history, and have developed a real fondness for this subject. I can see how it would have been very helpful in my youth to have learned these things, though I think my ego might have filled any room that I walked into. 😉
Thank you for such wonderful dialogue, and the book recommendation. I'm looking forward to learning more about history through your channel.
nice work gents - great commentary, plenty of facts, only educated postulation etc - you seem to make any history topic interesting and engaging
I’m loving every second of this conversation. It’s so fulfilling. Thank you gentlemen.
Good to see another episode back on TH-cam!
Your podcast on the French revolution was an absolute tour de force ! It is amazing how Marie Antoinette has been so unfairly vilified particularly with an incorrect quotation having been attributed to her. I look forward to the next series in autumn. PS - when are you returning for a live show to Ireland ?
Thank you for doing this series. ❤
U 2 are brilliant. Education while working .. ✊👍👍👍❤️ SO GOOD
Grandiosely entertaining and knowledgeable…. Enormously enjoyable
Great show. Thanks for the effort and charm you both bring to the history.
Thank you! Very interesting!!!!!!
Ironically, Coppola’s film found its structure, and many of its most famous lines, from Lady Antonia Fraser’s magisterial 2001 biography of the tragic Queen.
I’ve just discovered your channel-oh, happy day! Thank you from the United States. 🇫🇷🇦🇹🇺🇸
Great as usual, gentlemen.
I love Louis XVI's journaling, it's almost comical how bare and to the point it is
The portrayal of Queen Marie Antoinette in the inauguration show of the Olympic Games in Paris last week was gross and offensive. Western Europe takes pride in banning death penalty, but then some people applaud the image of an innocent woman decapitated more than 200 years ago. That queen had no power over the government budget or politics. She was confined to the court etiquette. She was accused of crimes and obscenities she didn't commit. But she had to be killed, in the name of extremism (revolution) to please a bunch of (male) assassins, many of whom had the same end (ironies of destiny).
Nobody gives a merde.
It's not that deep.
male! 😮
Very well expressed, she was the victim of the Terror, the hatred of the revolutionaries, and the French Revolution that 4 years later winds up where it all started, an absolutist monarchy with Monsieur Napoleon!
Felixaliaga, totally agree!
Frog is back on the menu, boys!
This didn’t get enough love yet. Well done.
@@markmacdonald7955 thanks, a little validation is always welcome.
I thought at least Dominic would give it a like.
Try it❤😊......
Tu ne saura pas déçu
A strange thing I heard was that at the time, Europe was going through a mini ice-age which was making it extremely difficult to grow the usual crops. Apparently the Thames was frozen solid so regularly that massive markets were regularly held on it. A new crop called 'potatoes' had been brought back from the new world and since it grew underground, was proving to be able to survive the extreme cold weather. The French wouldn't plant potatoes believing they were an inferior food, so whilst other countries survived the widespread crop failures by relying on the more hardy new-at-the-time potato, the French people were starving and getting closer and closer to uprising. Interesting.
Here's a doc about it : th-cam.com/video/VTW2Sczq2NA/w-d-xo.html
I recall that at this time , the government stop storing grain, but allowed it to be controlled by the free market. The Free Market held the grain back for higher profits.
It’s a bit more complicated than that, and the frost fairs on the Thames were probably more the result of the flow of the river being slowed by the piers of old London Bridge than the cold weather. However, winters were harder than now and the fact that the French government had tried to be more modern by adopting freer trade and allowing the export of grain, hence causing shortages at home, didn’t help.
Very well done! Congratulations from Austria
(U.S. teacher, here).
Thank you for mentioning where you are posting from. As both a former student, a lover of history and now a teacher in my own right..... I have often wondered what type of image Marie Antoinette held over the centuries in your country, of Austria.
In other words is she still or was she ever a 'revered figure' to the Austrian people? Or .... did the Austrian people just not care about her one way or the other?
The only thing that I knew about Austria after, MA's 'deletion' was that the people of Austria were extremely outraged, and very upset in the immediate aftermath of her death. However I never knew how much longer after that, that the feelings of anger and disgust, lasted.
Can you elaborate? Thank You.
Wonderful analysis. Enjoying it immensely.
I'm reading war and peace at the moment. Very fitting topic for me. Thanks lads 👌
You get a sense of post revolution Napoleonic wars and the undertones of the impending Russian revolution.
Brillant series, just finished the Parts ... so insightful and so well shared thank you !
Marie Antoinette is just like Ann Boleyn , wrong place , wrong time in a world dominated by men , be it male heirs or revolution , timing was everything , in fact , it still is
Perfectly on point. Bravo. 💐
Nope.
Similar but not the same. Anne was very well educated and well read. She was highly influenced by powerful women at the Austrian and then the French court where she served. She had the audacity to demand to be Queen not just Heney's official mistress. Like Marie Antoinette, she was largely hated by the people. She was often booed and was called " the great whore". She exerted her influence with Henry and alienated her Uncle The Duke of Norfolk and crossed her early ally the powerful Thomas Cromwell who would orchestrate her downfall when Henry wanted rid if her. Like Marie Antoinette she was falsely accused of terrible things and unjustly executed.
Nah
@@lesblakeman : toxic male 🚀 at it again !
I appreciate the normal episode names! I understand the algorithm game must be played, but this makes it infinitely easier to browser the backlog of videos.
shout out to John McWhorter for recommending this podcast. Some valuable, concise information to be absorbed here!
i love this channel
FIRST AO EXCITED THATS ALL I HAVE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!🎉
Great episode. I love it.❤
Y’all this is just an amazing podcast! So well done!
Given Marie Antoinette’s appearance at the long-running saga that was the Olympic Opening Ceremony, I think we can consider your proposition that she stands (in the popular mind) for the Revolution well and truly proved! Ps read Citizens when doing a historiography on the Terror at A-Level, such a good book!
Obviously she represents the revolution in the popular😂
In what world does she not?
Re hairstyles, Madame de Sevigne would send a doll with the hair in the latest style like the hurlu-burlu to her beloved daughter in the hinterlands of Provence (where her son-in-law served Louis XIV? as governor.)
To help her daughter stay au courrant.
I heard there used to be French scholars called sevignistes, Who were dedicated to the study of Madame de S's letters.
Could you do a series on Madame de Sevigne? So smart, virtuous, rich, industrious and funny. I always thought that she could be plopped down in our midst and prove how timeless human nature is. In her case, it's largely the good & refined side.
I can never think of Marie Antoinette or the French Revolution without thinking of her little boy. Or rather shrinking from that thought.
The lovely socialists. They did it to the Romanovs too
@@jamesmccusker2260 LMAOOOOOOO sure why not
Socialists really are evil
The Coppola film on the face of it is vacuous, but it’s soundtrack especially makes it excellent. History hasn’t really been done in such a contemporary style (despite its obvious period visuals) since. As a student of the French Revolution in my university days, it captured my imagination on the subject in a way that I struggled to connect with otherwise.
Love this!!!
Learning the history of the potato in France and Louis' efforts to give it to his subjects, puts a different light on some of the story. A man who would be so pleased with the man who fronted the effort to the pount of declaring him 'the man who brought bread to the people!' shows someone who was cincious of the issue.
The French were so suspicious that they would eat them.
Omg, my mind lurched into seeing King Charles sniping cats from the balcony of Buck House. Thank you for that Pythonesque image😂
Stefan Zweig wrote a brilliant and scholarly historical novel about Marie Antionette that I highly recommend.
also the book by Antonia Fraser is an essential and fantastic reading about MA
It is not a novel, It's a biography
Let's go! Been watching lectures on Robbespierre recently, the boys are off to the tennis court!
Epic content!
The parallels with Alexandra are crazy.
I've never realized that Marie Antoinette was the queen of France for so long. She managed to make it 18 years which is very surprising to me because of the state of the court and the state of the nation.
Yes. You are right. However for some reason it still doesn't seem as though she lasted 18 years at all.
Please put up the World War 1 series!
Thank You 🙏 so much for this
Wonderful narrative
I've been listening to the podcast in 2024, so I'm kinda new to the show. I always pictured Tom as Richard Ayoade, that accent 😅. First time I see them on video
Excellent 👌
I love how Dominics got all his books facing forward😂
Very efficient…for sight seeing
Just like that of a bookstore, 😂😂.
It would be so entertaining if you guys sported a vestment of the period you are discussing, albeit in t-shirt form ! Make great merch too.
It would be interesting to do an episode exploring historical figures and lies about them which endure.
During 10th grade world history class I was chosen to play Marie Antoinette during a staged trial. My teacher told me before I took the stand that there was no evidence Marie Antoinette actually said "let them eat cake". When the question came up I forgot this. I used as my defense that as queen I didn't even know where the palace kitchens were much less that the same ingredients that made bread made cake and that my comment wasn't out of malice but out of ignorance. I then asked the person questioning me if they knew how to make bread.
Vive le RIH! Almost invariably outstanding, but this 8 part series is SUPERB (have already listened to it on Spotify).
18:22 If you can say Vers-ailles, you can say No-ailles, easy as pie. It's simply NO+Versailles without the vers.
British guys have me glued to my earbuds delving into the French Revolution!
Thank you : )
Two films out of Hollywood that are worth a watch if you're interested in amazing portrayals of Catherine the Great of Russia, or Marie Antoinette: The Scarlet Empress (1934) directed by Josef Von Sternberg and starring Marlene Dietrich/Marie Antoinette starring Tyrone Power and Norma Shearer (1938). Don't expect historical accuracy, but do expect amazing film making!
John Hardman is an industrious scholar who seems to have made the mistake of identifying with his subject. He tries to make Marie a political player reaching out to Barneve --AFTER the flight to Varennes, when she had little or no political capital left. Barneve realized she was trying to play him and broke it off.
Her judgement of others, when she deigned to exercise it, was deplorable. She put all her trust in the Idiot Ferson, who planned and executed the hapless failed escape. When it started, she was heard to say how much it would vex Lafayette, whom she hated. Long afterwards her daughter Marie Therese, the sole survivor of the family, and the woman Napoleon called "the only man among the Bourbons", said that had her parents trusted Lafayette more they might have survived the revolution.
Source of Marie Therese quote about Lafayette and Marie Antoinette?
@@whately1 "Lafayette"
by Gonzague Saint Bris
Hnmn ok so she was alright? Interesting!! Thanks!
Oh good grief, Jackpot!
There is still something fascinating & worthwhile to be found for everyone no matter what their interests on TH-cam, especially if we have many interests. It can still be like the old days.
I think I remember another historian saying the formisis idea was ruled out because the operation would have made long hours in the saddle to go hunting impossibly painful immediately after, but Louis' diary shows no slowing down on the hunting in the time when the operation would have happened.
Queen Marie and King Louis are now with our Lord Jesus Christ and the Ever Virgin Mary.
🙏✝️⚜️
Ever virgin ? Despite having other children ? Imbecility is infinite.
Wow, it's Tom Holland's podcast? I'm a huge fan of yours! Especially thankful for your brilliant invective against Christianity that brought the woke scourge of female rights into the world!
- Adûnâi
Louis sounds very similar to Tsar Nicholas II. A kind family man who has no business being a monarch.
The French Revolution is very special to me, was the topic of my A Level course work and my overall emotions are that it was a tragedy of inadequacy. Louis 16 was just a weak man without the courage or intellectual inspiration to deal with the crisis, he should have been a country gentleman hunting and spending time reading science in a study, not the monarch of France.
You guys are great - this is amazing! Her little house down the back of Versailles was awesome 👍👍
The channel that will make 'fetch' happen!
Bastee.... not Basteel
I love your channel btw.
Once again glad i was born when i was
Lady Bracknell: "... which reminds one of the worst excesses of the French revolution. And we all know what this unfortunate movement led to..."
(Oscar Wilde)
I'd love a deep dive into Catherine the great.
What is the book or notes being referenced here by the podcast ?
So far a lot of bla bla and assumptions
One of the 2-3 most well-known people in all French history?
I'm not sure sure what they taught in England around 1990, but I would have Napoléon Bonaparte, Louis XIV and Jeanne d'Arc clearly above her. We can debate whether Vercingetorix and Charlemagne count as part of French history, but they would surely eclipse her.
I reckon she's in a B-tier alongside her husband, de Gaulle, Curie, Pasteur, Cousteau, Robespierre, and a bunch of writers, philosophes and sportspersons.
Mate, those wine bottles sitting in the sunshine through the window there... Best knock them off soon 🍷
Though it takes place some years after the revolution, I love Marat/Sade (especially the brilliant RSC film production) as an elegant but brutal assessment of the historical moment.
Please do the Romanovs and the hatred for Alexandra which is eerily similar to my mind
Wow, by about 55:42, Marie Antoinette could be mistaken for Lady Di!
Wonderful chaps.
Initially concerned that with talk of cake and bourbons, cats and dolphins, TRIH had gone to the dogs.
There's something poetic about £1-10 croissants and concern that the plebs are eating their burgers in brioche buns.
The most horrifying future event I can imagine from this so far isn't The Terror, but the fact that with such "liberal" clothing, bowlers would be bowling underarm this very day!!
"The line between goodness and imbecility was easily crossed." :)
Do you speak in this series about La Vendée, the first modern genocide? I just discovered your channel. Congratulations.
Marie Antoinette would certainly have had someone read to her. Technically she never cracked open the book. The original audiobook, if you could afford it.
It actually upsets me how she was treated.
Do you mean La Comtesse of Noailles? (1.00.09).
Weirdly enough, the word, despite all its vowels can be pronounced if you look at it this way: No-Ailles. You know how to pronounce NO (since the age of 2) as for -AILLES, think of AIL (the word for garlic, in french) and then put the 2 sounds together as smoothly as possible.. It works , it's feasible.
Check out the book Marie Antoinette's Watch - fascinating.
What she was supposed to have said was NOT cake as in a Gâteau, but a cake as in brioche, which was the hard crust on the outside that the poor would buy (like day old bread, which is usually half price or less) and soften it in their tea to make it edible.
Nonetheless, she never said it.
You obviously didn't listen to the podcast. They say this right at the beginning.
Could you do a topic of the pirates of the Mediterranean?
And a series on Charles Dickens. There must be enough there for ten episodes !
18:00 Proper names aren't allowed in scrabble.
Outstanding guys
Where is the next episode?
something i saw on a historical food video was something that seemed surprising to me...on the table of the king and queen they probably had some coarse bread to show their support of the revolutionaries...so was there a period leading up to when the revolution was clearly their enemy that the royalty fancied themselves cheering for the revolution?? that seems insane...but then i suppose when if the upper class is detached from reality any strange fanciful fad might be embraced...?