I’m considering getting the rode wireless pro and pairing it with the Sanken COS 11D. Is there any combo you’d recommend over this? I primarily shoot real estate and realtors both in and outdoors.
That’s the combo I run with for 90% of my work. As long as you don’t need to be too far away from transmitters and the receiver it’s great. I always have the internal recording on as well as a backup and to be able to use the 32bit float when needed.
@ Awesome, I don’t think I’ll need the distance so this should be great! If you don’t mind sharing, what do you do/use to edit the audio in Final Cut Pro?🙏 I usually add voice isolation, turn the pan mode to dialogue, do a channel eq sweep and add a compressor.
Yep I use fcp, I generally add compression @4:1 ratio, if it’s been a quiet person talking I’ll add level within compressor as well, just enough to get me to -6 db, then roughly 25-30% voice isolation (less if it sounds too weird) I’ll then add channel eq and make some minor adjustments there. Then if something really isn’t working or there’s way too much background noise I’ll throw it through adobe podcast and see how it sounds. But sometime it makes it weird and takes away the character from people’s voice
@@videographerstuff539 What do you do if there bad room echo? Sometimes I film a realtor in a house with no furniture and the echo is such a pain to deal with! 😅 thanks for the tips btw
Congratulations on the video. I found it very interesting, I have a Rode Wireless Pro with a COS 11D It seems to be going into saturation, What sensitivity do you recommend setting on the TX to avoid this saturation? In your opinion, what are the best settings to pair the Rode Wireless Pro with a COS 11D?
I have the Rode Wireless Pro at the moment and I find the Lav II to be ok, but if you want to hide the mic under clothing I find it pretty tricky. Have you tried that? I will likely buy a Sanken in the future but in the meantime would be good to hear any tips if you've every tried to hide the Rode Lav II.
Hey mate. Yeah very tricky with the forward facing capsule and the back that pulls off with rode lav ii, but I’ll pop up a video in the coming days with a work around for you.
@@videographerstuff539 Which exact COS11D Mic do you have? The normal one, or the lower sensitivity one? I am also looking to buy a Cos11D for my Wireless Pro. Thanks!
@@videographerstuff539so, to use the Cos 11 with the Rode wireless pro, it should be the cos 11 with sennheiser connector and nor the cos 11 with Rode connector? They have these two versions in BHphoto.
I haven’t used the me2 on the rwp. I used to have them many years ago with a set of g3 wireless packs. I found that the mke2 needed more gain in post with rwp. The cos11 has great levels with rwp. Some people to prefer the mke2 sound over cos11, saying it’s a touch more natural. Personally I prefer the cos11 sound and its size. You can hide it really well because of its bullet shape rather than the more cone shape of the me and mke.
I have a problem that MKe2 on Theos shows very low level even I have given +30 dB gain at transmitter. Did you have this problem? If so, what is your solution?😢
@@pengzhang7259what camera are you plugging the rx unit into? Is it set to ‘line’ or mic’ level? What ‘output’ level is the rx unit set to? We should be able to work out a better solution for you hopefully
@ I plugged it into Deity Theos UHF transmitter and the input had been set at Mic 5V-in. The gain of the transmitter was at +27 dB. If I would like to use this set up, I have to plugged the receiver into Zoom F6 and give a almost +48 gain for F6. In this way, I can get a -6 to -12dB gain for a conventional interview. The Lavalier must be set in 25cm distance to the mouth. Do you know what the problem is? Thx in advance
@ the lavalier on transmitter with mic-input; the receiver on the recorder with line-input(matched) the lavalier is Sehnheisser MKE2-ew-gold 3 with 3.5mm jack
Did you have any issues with the Sennheiser into the Theos? I was told it wouldnt work well as it needs 7v and the Theos only gives it 5v but it sounds good to me?!
do you have any thoughts on the actual transmitter / receiver system quality? I already have the sanken cos 11d and a couple of sets of sennheiser g4 wireless packs.. just wondering if you have found any quality difference between this and the rode go pro packs? (not taking into consideration the 32 bit float - just purely the quality of audio it sends into the camera)
Hey, I haven’t used the G4’s, but I had the g3 set. My biggest problem with those were getting interference every now and then, like that short ‘spark’ kinda sound. Used to kill me having to hand audio in with that. Since having the RØDE’s I’m yet to have an interference problem (without pushing distance) and I’m 100% happy with the quality the cos 11 into it gives me. It really is a good combination in my opinion. I set the rx unit to ‘split’ so that I get each channel on its own track on the camera. If I stuff up and bump the audio dials on the camera during a take I love having the safety on the onboard recording as back up.
MkE2 and Sanken are the best organically, thanks for helping to decide.
Glad it helped 😀
Thanks so much for the comparison, great video!!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 😃
I’m considering getting the rode wireless pro and pairing it with the Sanken COS 11D. Is there any combo you’d recommend over this? I primarily shoot real estate and realtors both in and outdoors.
That’s the combo I run with for 90% of my work. As long as you don’t need to be too far away from transmitters and the receiver it’s great. I always have the internal recording on as well as a backup and to be able to use the 32bit float when needed.
@ Awesome, I don’t think I’ll need the distance so this should be great! If you don’t mind sharing, what do you do/use to edit the audio in Final Cut Pro?🙏 I usually add voice isolation, turn the pan mode to dialogue, do a channel eq sweep and add a compressor.
Yep I use fcp, I generally add compression @4:1 ratio, if it’s been a quiet person talking I’ll add level within compressor as well, just enough to get me to -6 db, then roughly 25-30% voice isolation (less if it sounds too weird)
I’ll then add channel eq and make some minor adjustments there.
Then if something really isn’t working or there’s way too much background noise I’ll throw it through adobe podcast and see how it sounds. But sometime it makes it weird and takes away the character from people’s voice
@@videographerstuff539 What do you do if there bad room echo? Sometimes I film a realtor in a house with no furniture and the echo is such a pain to deal with! 😅 thanks for the tips btw
No worries, the simplest option would be adobe podcast, have you tried that out?
Really nice video
Cheers
Great taste. Sanken mic is the best imo
A durable great sounding little rippa indeed!
Congratulations on the video. I found it very interesting, I have a Rode Wireless Pro with a COS 11D It seems to be going into saturation, What sensitivity do you recommend setting on the TX to avoid this saturation?
In your opinion, what are the best settings to pair the Rode Wireless Pro with a COS 11D?
Hey there,
Does the onboard recording seem over saturated as well?
@@videographerstuff539 yes
I have the Rode Wireless Pro at the moment and I find the Lav II to be ok, but if you want to hide the mic under clothing I find it pretty tricky. Have you tried that? I will likely buy a Sanken in the future but in the meantime would be good to hear any tips if you've every tried to hide the Rode Lav II.
Hey mate. Yeah very tricky with the forward facing capsule and the back that pulls off with rode lav ii, but I’ll pop up a video in the coming days with a work around for you.
@@videographerstuff539 Oh that would be great! Thanks!
@@videographerstuff539hey 😊 is there any solution right now?
Your video is very amazing, may I use Sanken Coz 11 with rode wireless pro ?
Thanks so much! Yes, I use the cos 11 and rode wireless pro every week and it’s a great combo!
@@videographerstuff539 Which exact COS11D Mic do you have? The normal one, or the lower sensitivity one? I am also looking to buy a Cos11D for my Wireless Pro. Thanks!
SKN.COS11D-EW-BD-BLK - Sanken COS-11D Omnidirectional Lavalier Microphone w/ Sennheiser Mini Connector (BLK)
@@videographerstuff539 same
@@videographerstuff539so, to use the Cos 11 with the Rode wireless pro, it should be the cos 11 with sennheiser connector and nor the cos 11 with Rode connector? They have these two versions in BHphoto.
I have Sennheiser me2 and rode wireless pro, is it worth upgrade to sennheiser mke 2 or cos11d?
I haven’t used the me2 on the rwp. I used to have them many years ago with a set of g3 wireless packs.
I found that the mke2 needed more gain in post with rwp. The cos11 has great levels with rwp.
Some people to prefer the mke2 sound over cos11, saying it’s a touch more natural.
Personally I prefer the cos11 sound and its size. You can hide it really well because of its bullet shape rather than the more cone shape of the me and mke.
I have a problem that MKe2 on Theos shows very low level even I have given +30 dB gain at transmitter. Did you have this problem? If so, what is your solution?😢
@@pengzhang7259what camera are you plugging the rx unit into? Is it set to ‘line’ or mic’ level?
What ‘output’ level is the rx unit set to?
We should be able to work out a better solution for you hopefully
@ I plugged it into Deity Theos UHF transmitter and the input had been set at Mic 5V-in. The gain of the transmitter was at +27 dB. If I would like to use this set up, I have to plugged the receiver into Zoom F6 and give a almost +48 gain for F6. In this way, I can get a -6 to -12dB gain for a conventional interview. The Lavalier must be set in 25cm distance to the mouth. Do you know what the problem is? Thx in advance
@ the lavalier on transmitter with mic-input; the receiver on the recorder with line-input(matched) the lavalier is Sehnheisser MKE2-ew-gold 3 with 3.5mm jack
Did you have any issues with the Sennheiser into the Theos? I was told it wouldnt work well as it needs 7v and the Theos only gives it 5v but it sounds good to me?!
Definitely useable but yeah it needed the most gain adjustment in post to bring level up.
I tried the setup. Had to boost to maximum gain for acceptable levels if not speaking quiet. What do I need to change?
do you have any thoughts on the actual transmitter / receiver system quality? I already have the sanken cos 11d and a couple of sets of sennheiser g4 wireless packs.. just wondering if you have found any quality difference between this and the rode go pro packs? (not taking into consideration the 32 bit float - just purely the quality of audio it sends into the camera)
Hey, I haven’t used the G4’s, but I had the g3 set. My biggest problem with those were getting interference every now and then, like that short ‘spark’ kinda sound. Used to kill me having to hand audio in with that.
Since having the RØDE’s I’m yet to have an interference problem (without pushing distance) and I’m 100% happy with the quality the cos 11 into it gives me. It really is a good combination in my opinion.
I set the rx unit to ‘split’ so that I get each channel on its own track on the camera. If I stuff up and bump the audio dials on the camera during a take I love having the safety on the onboard recording as back up.
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👍 This was done in Final Cut Pro.
MKE2 or Sanken (guess I would choose base on talent voice) ... Deity sounds really lame. Rode is just average ... thanks for the effort!!!
Cheers! The price reflects the sound with these ones for sure.
@@videographerstuff539 Just checked the price for MKE2. Quite steep, yeah. But it pays itself after 1-2 commercial days :D.
And they will last longer as well!
Mk2 and Sanken.
Yeah I’m a big fan of the Sanken, it’s a workhorse! I do like the touch of extra brightness of the mk2
The MKE2 is stunningly bad. That noise floor is outrageous! And you're using a decent external pre w/ 32 bit float. That's insanely bad!
Yeah it does need a bunch of power too, I think it wants 5 or 7 volts from memory