LDV eT60: New Zealand FINALLY has an electric ute - but is it any good?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2024
- It's the first pure electric ute available in New Zealand, but is it any good in the real world? To find out, Gav put it through a series of tests - and at one point even used it to solve world hunger! Well, not exactly, but this battery powered ute was pushed hard and seemed to do alright.
This medium-duty, 100% electric pickup truck is powered by a 130 kW, 310 Nm electric motor driving the rear wheels, and as Gav discovered, its 88 kWh battery gives it a real world range of at least 325 kilometres per charge - and much more in the city.
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Contents:
0:00 - Introduction
0:46 - Specs & features
1:37 - Battery & motor
2:59 - Utes in NZ
3:25 - Display & connectivity
3:59 - Interior comfort
4:39 - Driving modes
5:15 - Utes in the city?
6:09 - Family info & stats
6:48 - Ground clearance
7:05 - Can it fit a pallet?
7:09 - Noise generator
7:36 - Stereo quality
8:03 - Cabin noise
8:16 - Regen braking test
9:00 - Driving on grass
9:33 - 0-100 time
10:07 - Handling
12:13 - Charging options
14:54 - Range test
15:42 - Efficiency
16:40 - Unsprung weight
17:10 - Kaipara Kumara
18:10 - Range update
19:14 - Pit stop
20:18 - My Food Bag
22:00 - Final delivery
22:40 - Summary - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Someone give this man a TV show.
Yes he’s awesome in camera
Agreed. Export him to Australia, and we’ll give you Russell Crowe back.
@@seanm4405 no sale dude, what does Russell know about seated heats and wouldn't know an agre from a jersey Benny
Man? 😂
I tested both the eT60 and T60 in one day to get a comparison and be able to separate the “Ute behaviour “ from the “EV behaviour”. Firstly the diesel burner was truly horrible to drive, with massive turbo lag and inconsistent power delivery. By comparison the eT60’s power delivery was smooth but really anaemic. There was no “punch in the back” acceleration you normally get from an EV. I also noted that the $80K EV still had an ignition key instead of keyless entry and push button start. It really smacked of LDV grabbing some spare truck frames and bolting a massive battery pack underneath and then attaching an electric motor to the diff. All in an attempt to be first to market. The motor whine was really noticeable at anything over 80km/h and the low speed warning sound was akin to a goat having its testicles squeezed, and got on my nerves really quickly. With that towing capacity, it is okay for a Mitre10 courtesy trailer to take your outdoor furniture purchase home, but that is about it.
This is not a practical ute, it is for virtue signalling, either as a construction boss who doesn’t actually do the work, or for a company that needs to show its green credentials.
I’m looking forward to a ‘proper’ electric ute arriving in NZ.
Hilux on the way in povo spec for $100k
At least someone starting a NEW ZEALAND car reviews ❤️👌🏽
Poor Felicity!
Looks like a nice ute though, thanks for showing us the new stuff - can admire it from afar through you!
Gotta be the single best real world test I have seen on any vehicle!
Great work.
"It's been worked realistically..." - love the comedy there - doesn't everyone rainwash and air-dry their spuds in a ute?! 🤪😎👌
Your enthusiasm is infectious!
I confess, I used to be a 'petrol head' but once I discovered EVs I just fell in love with them. Power, performance, handling, efficiency - they're just better, so I guess that makes me biased! -Gav
@@EcotricityNZ That's funny. I've come from the other side of things. I am totally not a petrol head, and it's more the teach that's attracted me to EV's. It's why I called my EV channel, not a car guy. 🤣
My aim is to look at them from some who knows very little about cars, which is definitely me. I really enjoy your channel and your humour. :)
5:34 "This is not the place for utes right?" *ranger drives past* 😂
QOTD: "I got my spuds a little moist..." Not sure how that goes down in NZ but certainly raises a giggle in the UK!
~wink~
-Gav
I was laughing in the first few seconds of the singlet-wearing physique… but then a few minutes in there was “Let’s unzip the fly of statistics and take a look”… “touchscreen a girthy ten inches” and I really couldn’t stop laughing after that… I must; though, because I’d also like to find out about that unsprung weight and the effect it has. What a great reviewer
Thanks mate, very easy to watch & informative review.
Great review Gavin. Loved the pallet in the back and the kumara test. Not quite the Potatoe storage capacity idea I had but bloody good none the less. While this may not suit everyone, it's great there's more options in the market.
Excellent video!
Nice demonstration of what it can do and how it can do it.
Shame that SAIC/LDV took a short cut and adapted their existing model and plonked the electric motor/reduction gearing straight onto the back of the axle. It doesn't quite look like it should be there, but I get the engineering reasons for that.
I love your reviews, not overly nurdy that this model is 2cm wider then the previous etc ....
Hi there Gavin, just found your channel and watched this excellent video. I really enjoyed the very practical and honest way you reviewed this vehicle to demonstrate that it can easily do a good days work.
Looks like you have a great charging network in NZ as well.
Another great review.
The car is not very effective for urban use and not robust enough for rural unpaved roads. Something like this is needed, but in this case they made some weird compromises that make it not so useful for many use cases. At this price, I don't understand why the entire bottom side is exposed. With this design, it's only a matter of time before the engine takes a good hit from a rock. Also regenerative braking is a joke for such a heavy car it's an essential capability, if they did this function the proper way, they could extend the range by at least 5%.
My first thought when he showed us underneath the beast. It wouldn't take much to smash the underside. All exposed and darn all height. And how much was he paying to fill up on the road? No waiting cos most folk cannot go near the prices of EV's. Soon range anxiety transitions to recharge rage.
I don't think it's a real off road vehicle. It's kind of a larp
I think the weak regen is to make sure you don't lock up the back wheels when it is unloaded and on a wet road.
So far I have never seen any EV do traction control under regen. Everything pretty much relies on never have enough regen to slip the wheels.
Good and informative, can’t wait to see the Felicities at the Cafe. 😂
Great video Gavin! There is no doubt that these “utes” are sorely needed. We can ignore the price to some extent because that will not last.
Some other Utes are expensive too so not so bad relatively and good for businesses. 240v outlet is good as that costs quite a bit to add.
Be good to have 4wd though.
I thought so, too. This one wasn't applicable for every ute situation, but it definitely has its uses for medium/light duty applications. -Gav
no we should not be buying Chinese made vehicles. Would you buy vehicles from nazi germany? China is actively trying to destroy the west and all the freedoms and human rights with it, and u want to fund their efforts?
15:40 - I guess that's why the speed limit is been lowered across the country - to give the EVs more ranage.
Exactly as directed by WEF, notice most cars overtaking him, he was driving as slow as possible.
USA did it. 55MPH for economy reasons. Now not an issue
good review mate. keep up
I wonder what will he happen to the battery if you cross a small farm stream or take it up the beach fishing if salt spray is getting all around it?
23:48 Yes, fuel is expensive in a diesel ute, however, my $40k twin turbo Navara regularly did over 800km a day during covid in Australia when we couldn't get flights to the mine where I work.
800km on the highway is easy to achieve in that car on a single tank and only stopping briefly for comfort stops. Not enough time, or indeed any charging infrastructure for an EV ute.
That said, the $30,000 price difference is the main killer. It would take the effective life of the vehicle to recoup the cost difference for me, as I'm a motor mechanic who services my own car.
@@user-sp4gy7ko5l
Yeah righto champion 🤣
These haven't been out that long yet... most EV owners are rolling along just fine.
It's the stupid expensive purchase cost that is the biggest issue compared to a normal vehicle.
It's definitely a go for the office type people that work for construction companies i.e quantity Surveyors ,engineer's etc. That rarely use the ute for towing or tools 😂😂
put a cover on your tray next time , it will still be a brick but with rounded edges thanks for your efforts
Just a teeny taste of a proper EV Ute future, not bad for an ad.
Great video mate,but I can hear the Luddites revving up their diesel motors ready to prove your wrong,cheers.
They're all out, driving 1000km a day, towing their boat with a tonne of wood in the back. That's how ute drivers roll ;-)
Great show
Great review, some good real tests, and good information but it's a ute... Bring it down south and give it to both a tradie and a farmer for a day each. Load her up with building supplies, tow a trailer, take it to the lake with a boat, and take it off the road and around a farm for a day (Grass on the side of the road is only off-road if you are from Auckland!). Farmers and tradies are the ones skeptical of EV options for their needs, not so much city folk.
Great review
Great video Gav! It would be cool to see some towing. I see a few disparaging comments about the 1500kg tow rating, but 1500 kg is pretty useful. Just as some examples of what it would cover;
• a Haines Hunter 545 sport fishing boat, or similar power boat under 6m,
• some 6 berth caravans such as the Swift Sprite Quattro EW (1430kg) or Avondale Dart 630-6 (1231kg)
• 8×4 trailer with 60 sheets of 10mm Gib board,
• 8×4 trailer with 30 × 40kg bags of cement or plaster or whatever (and you could throw 15 more in the tray).
Seems it should cover most stuff that tradies tow, and let's face it, most work related towing is between the local builder's hardware store and the job site. Not usually more than 100km, so range shouldn't be an issue most days.
Evs are notoriously terrible towing it absolutely reems your battery.
@@ChurchInAshes Try telling that to my friend who regularly tows a trailer all over the country with a Nissan Leaf for his work! The fact is, EVs are great for towing short distances (as in typical contractor's work), and even tow long distance fine with a few more charging stops. Unless long distance towing with heavy loads is the bulk of your work, I don't see a problem.
I see you conveniently didn't mention farmers.
@Brenttheaviator absolute lies he does not tow anything with a Nissan leaf he would be sitting at the charger all day virtue signaling
@@ChurchInAshes Shows what you know! People tow all kinds of things with EVs, including EVs like the Nissan leaf, which weren't even designed for it. I suggest you open your eyes, instead of calling someone a liar when they tell you something true.
Hey, great video. Where can I find that range calculator you were using?
Great video thanks
thats a purely Auckland use of a ute. Love to see how much it would tow in real life and how far. How about a trailer of 3 cube of firewood? Or a boat? Or a trailer with 2 trail bikes? How about a kayak on the roof with 2 MTBs on the tray?
Loaded up it might get you to the nearest charging station but only if the wind is behind you.
Dont be harsh he was allowed to put the wheels on grass to test the impressive ute.I am sure no ute owner will have a trailer or a caravan and by no way can they ever ride a motor bike so not being able to carry a couple is not a problem.
Most utes don't aren't used like that. It's not just Auckland where most double cab ute's are used purely in town and on seal.
You failed to mention the DC charge per kWh. I tried to pause the video and it looked like about $9 for 10kWh??? If, you couldn't charge at 20c/kWh from home that would make this ute close to diesel cost per km.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
That ute costs $90k in Australia which is $38k more than a Triton ute. The latter can tow 3.1t and trust me, utes are bought as tow vehicles here, anyway.
I enjoyed the review but wish you had included fastcharge pricing as a working man on the road will probably use a lot of it.
Pricing info depends on time & speed & charger type, but 85% to 90% of EV operators in New Zealand charge at home, with DC charging mostly used for road trips. Check out the pricing here: charge.net.nz/resources/pricing-structure/
@@EcotricityNZ thanks for your response. I accept that the lion's share of EV owners will charge at home but . . . Utes and the like are often used longer hauling plus towing, holidaying etcetera so no doubt DC charging will be a necessity for many owners of the LDV to get the required work done. The real world range (not tested) with say a family. All the gear in the tray and a 1500kg camper trailer will struggle to get 180km at a generous guess. That would translate if charged once on your way to the national park $60 for 75kW for 180km = 40kWh/100km or 32c per km. Diesel at $3 and economy of 12l/100km only 4c km more and 3 times the range.
Getting like the UK it seems where electric vehicles are more expensive on fuel to run than diesels over large distances.
Guess its okay because EVS are about the environment and getting carbon emissions down as their only goal. Any saving, a bonus.
@@EcotricityNZ😊
Nice one Maaaaaate.
72k after rebate 🤣
If you're lucky it might even tow your boat to the boat ramp, not sure about getting back home but
"Scoffing at the price of petrol" hilarious!. Great review Gavin critical for many people that commercial EV vehicles are coming available in NZ.
A crazy $93k here in AUS, compared to the more capable $40K ICE version. Poor 110kph highway range and let's not talk towing. As a BEV fan, just doesn't stack up at all, at that pice. Save $53K and buy the ICE version. Whats the mining and carbon footprint on a 90kw battery?
Great video, i think this could change alot of city slickers ideas of a ute. But at 1500kg isn't worth it as a ute for trades in civil as you could be towing 3.5 tonne worth of digger or goods. Also how long does a full charge take you towing 1500kg? Its a great idea but inorder to get more people behind ev utes they would need to tow 3.5 tonne at 500km plus.
I don't like utes. But I thoroughly enjoyed your video. Good job!
Brilliant video. Love the idea. Would love to see one that can tow 3 tonne+ so onto be able to drag the horse float…
how much battery life do you loose using the rapid chargers?, How much is the replacement battery??? and when does LDV recommend change??
Two wheel drive and ground clearance not good, due to the batteries how much weight is it??
What motor are they using? Nice truck.
Tradies probably carry lot more weight in there UTE (tools, oxy, MIG etc.). The fuel price difference to buying more expensive EV is tax deductible immediately depending on how the car is financed may need to be depreciated over life of the car if purchased out right, if you use vehicle les then fuel costs are less too. If leasing the fuel difference is saved in lease cost (ICE 20K cheaper) and in 3ys time you hand car back and then look at EV they probably will be better (possibly cheaper different batteries too). Buying up EV on lease paying big up front in lease payments and interest rates and profit factor on EV. And ice cars are cheaper on 2nd hand market if budget conscious.
So, 10 minutes before Kaiwaka you had 168km of range and after 12 minute stop you had 286km of range. You gained around 120km in 12 minutes or more than 30kw. It is 150+ kw charging speed. It does not add up.
Great review. You're getting pretty good at this lark dude! Can't wait for a few more EV utes to turn up in NZ. Hopefully the Radar R6 isn't too far away. Perhaps also worth mentioning that cargo works both negatively and positively in terms of range. All that extra weight is extra inertia that results in extra regen potential, as does unbraked towed mass.
I'm curious about the ute having no adjustable regen but it has hill decent mode, so how does this decent mode work then?
Had cousins that farmed kumara in Ruawai. Wonder if they still do.
Cool idea but I would kill in in under a year on the coast with the battery placement makes me wonder why they don't put battery under the Bonet or deck away from the danger of road debris and flooded roads
Great review thanks Gavin. The first NZ EV Ute, should get some early adopters signed up.
Its a pity they couldn't find a way to make it visually different from the i.c.e ute's and a bit more aerodynamic.
Really looking forward to an offroad 4WD version with longer range! Needs a few more driverless features too. I love this.
love the tradie out fit
how's using fecilities ? (19:00)
Just a pity it doesn't use the 150 kw motor from the van.
You need to compare the cost of a T60 price to a eT60 price for fuel v electricity difference. The T60 being $35,00 less than the eT60.
Why the battery pack is low 😰
What's the cost to charge from flat to full from charge STATION ???
less than a tank full of diesel????
Ok Gavin, I assumed this content was all you.. 🧐 But you definitely had help on this one. Studio networks don't produce content this good, you have a team for sure... Well I hope your team let's you know I have busted you. 😆😅🤣
You got me. :-) Our marketing dude gave me the contact for My Food Bag. Everything else was me though. A week of phone calls, planning and emails, filming then editing. Need a break now! -Gav
I thought most electric car companies put electric motors on each wheel. Is this basically a diesel converted into electric. Im not saying that bad, maybe that’s the way to go to keep costs down. Would be good for conversing old petrol vehicles as a kit set
No one does that. Putting the motors in the wheels would ruin the ride, by increasing the unsprung mass.
I never said IN the wheel, like a electric bike. I said ON EACH, I think tesla has 2 , 3 and for electric motors. Of course awd , but this Chinese ute is one motor and that’s why there’s little power. All they are doing is using a existing vehicle. Probably way the battery is so low. But after saying all that i like it . But only because i dont need a lot of power or distance and high or 4wd . But i cant see farmers being at all interested. Probably why this video was all about townies driving double cabs and not about farmers
@@brett7989 Apart from the quad motor Rivian, I'm not aware of any. Even the EV Hummer has only 3.
@@stuartirwin3779 I think the mosts efficient way to power a electric vehicle would be with 4 smaller motors driven to each wheel, rather than one monster of a motor driven like a ice motor. This ute seems that way
@@brett7989 For 4WD, but it would be cheaper to make two larger motors; one for each axle. No live rear axle either! However, 4 motors does have the advantage that you don't need physical differentials.
What will the range be after 2 yrs daily use?
Excellent.
Generator on the back?
Felicity must be popular. 24.45
Price has to come down, time running out till BYD ute surfaces. With LFP blade batteries
Wouldnt help power usage with the well side open
One small addition to your comment about diesel vehicles price of diesel always goes up really comes down and when it goes up it stays up and goes hi
Gavin could you drive the MG 4 or 5
I will! Coming this year, I believe. -Gav
Good presentation for a very expensive vehicle $92,500 base model
All the Felicity's out there annoyed at their name getting mixed up with "facilities"
Hahaha glad someone else noticed it 😂
You are forgetting the 70k price tag so you are just paying for your fuel in advance
Most people don't buy new utes
Plenty lease new utes
Almost a useless waste of 70k and everything you need a dual cab for.
Will be 50k once there rotting in the showroom floor…and even then 🥴
Great review tho. Agree you should have your own show 👍
Haha. My everyday coffee comes from La Nonna. Nice.
Feels like a half baked, get to market as soon as possible product. Battery sits below frame, heavy motor fixed to axle, no AWD, lack-luster km/kwh consumption. The next gen and competition is going to blow this thing out the water very soon. Heck Kia, tesla, and hyundai all have AWD models with better range.
Are these only 4x2
Yeah, that's correct.
Better range than your 1st ev eh? And the wheels on the right side.
19:01 felicity? Lol. Great that it has superb aircon. Deal breaker for me is ride quality. I can't stand harsh ride in a car.
Only one thing missing from this video - gumboots, muddy gumboots to be exact - to go with that singlet! Wardrobe malfunction perhaps.....? 😜🤪😂
Yeah this guy could pull it off on a tv show like idk the office ? Something like that.
now do a trial with a 1.8t trailor.
You know it’s desperate when you mentioned electric windows and mirrors on a 80 grand car
Does it do V2L ?
There was a 220V outlet at the back end of the centre console, so yes.
I really need to make greater use of measuring capacity by potato storage. 😂
Gavin, Gavin, Gavin... love the show, but a singlet ? This must be covered by some law (intentional injury to our eyesight or psyche).
Think I'll hold out for a cyber truck
Unfortunately there are no longer any plans to bring the Cybertruck to New Zealand. I'm really hoping that might change in the years ahead. -Gav
@@EcotricityNZ I have a cyber truck pre order here in Australia. I am not expecting to see them here in Australia for a few years. Which is good as it will give me an opportunity to save more money to pay for it. It will likely be the last vehicle I buy. The way I see it, by the time they release it in Australia they will have self driving sorted out. I'm 50 this year so as I age, self driving will help me get to where I need to go even as my ability to drive declines as I age.
I am sure that tradie has 45 mins every 200km or less with towing. 😂
Put a trailer on it with tray and trailer loaded see how it does. Look at the caravan's in NZ what is it range towing a Caravan.
Why are you anti ev?
@@theunknownunknowns5168 I am not anti EV or Hydrogen fuel cells. I am just saying for Tradies or Travelers needing a Tow vehicle then review as comparison of what Deisel 4x4 work vechiles do. If I brought one hooked it up to van to travel around North and South Island what can I expect ?. If Riven were in NZ and I could afford one I would jump at it. I am looking at a MG4 for after work to run errands and shopping. But weekend holidays and work I need a workhorse one I can fit flat bed with trade canopy and pull trailer with extra equipment and spares for work.
@@theunknownunknowns5168 wouldn’t it be useful to know the towing utility of a utility vehicle? EVs are known to have decreased range when towing. IIRC he literally tested this with the Polestar. Having people purchase this vehicle and find out the towing ranging is incredibly low would be more anti-EV as it would negatively impact perception of them.
@@gregorymcleod Your examples are niche. You are implying no one should purchase this vehicle because you, not the purchaser, needs to tow a caravan every weekend. This is what I understand from your comment. It is like saying every internal combustion engine car can full every niche use case. Ok, I'll buy a fiat bambina to tow my 9m caravan. Let you in on a secret, people buy vehicles based on what they need and how much of the need that vehicle can fulfil. You are definitely anti ev.
@@theunknownunknowns5168 I don't think been a tradie is niche it is a ute so a review should compare what it can and can't do. There are EV utes that can do all I need it just there cost at this time but ford Lightnig F150 or Riven Pickup. But why by a ute that can't do all you need it to. So why is owning a ICE workhorse weekender a big deal until we can get real equivalents. I am looking at a MG ev for errands and home use. It makes sense.
I am not implying in anyway that no one should buy it. If it fits your needs go ahead. But how we know if it will fit our needs if the reviewer does not test the vehicle to tradesman needs farmer needs or the weekender pulling boat or Caravan. That is all I am saying. But if you live in town doing deliveries ford transit van's have some good ev's if you just driving to work and home the atto 3 or MG have good ev's. But when you cross into light commercial utes you need to compare apples to apples. Bro.
5:47 Was this question for 10 thousand pounds, 50 thousand or the full million 🤣
Three potatoes and a foot rub is all I can afford. -Gav
@Ecotricity NZ I'm on my feet in workboots 14 hours a day 🤣🤣 You *really don't* want to go there 🤣
I'll take the spuds tho 😅
Not a bad review. A little biased.... The ranger probably gets about 3 times the range on a full tank, so by the time the account for charging at home it would be equal at about the 7 year mark or so, and resale would be less as the range would have reduced over that time. Not to mention EV range reduction in cold weather and the range reduction with a load on board too. And it's an LDV, not the nicest. And it's not 4x4. I don't think the world can EV it's way out of climate change.
It certainly can't i.c.e its way out of climate change.
Maybe we're going to have to change our lifestyles as well as our vehicles ;-)
Poor Felicity…
Where’s the “redbands”
Its very similar to the MG diesel trucks
Do you mean the MG Extender? It should be the same vehicle with different branding, no?
Your secret road is not secret enough....
Ssshhh. Please don't tell anyone or they'll all be there on the weekends! -Gav
makes sence if you think 1 ton of lithium =15 tons of CO2 Hmmmmmm
Too expensive for the range.
No good for me, but it's a start.
Uses a CATL lithium ion battery. Fyi.
Electric chair 💥 boom ⚡🌩️. fride. no thanks. I'll keep my toyota celiac manual still going strong 30 years. 🤗🤣😅😂. beat that. priceless. my baby.
Oh, Whoopi!
It does take fuel ..it's electricity ..if the motors on the axle what's that where the ice engine would be under the hood..looks like it's software is rubbish is why u don't have those good modes or good milage
Laughing all the way to the bank , UNTILL , they start to tax the power you put in them which they will.
Also don't forget, light electric vehicles will start paying (RUCs) Road User Charges from 31 March 2024.
@@Michaeleb82 Considering EV owners can home charge to gain per kilometre costs of less than 4c (or half that using solar export tariff loss) an extra 7c is far from a deal breaker. Calculate your ICE's per km fuel cost and see how that compares.
It's also highly likely that inclusion of EVs in the RUC system will see a total rejig with all vehicles being charged RUCs on a distance travelled basis so that hybrids can be captured equitably. In any case RUC rates for EVs are likely to be at a discounted rate as an incentive so a substantial advantage will still exist.
A day boss
How would it fare in a flood zone ?
Scam and you know it , 300km yeah right , whose digging the "minerals" for the battery...how long does the battery last and how much to replace ,,, about as long as this post will
EV batteries can be recycled unlike the dinosaur juice that ICEs need in constant supply from a very heavy emissions and energy hungry supply chain.
Good video, however you have to compare like with like. The comparable LDV Desiel is $32 000 less and has 3000Kg towing capacity that means on your reckoning it would be 4.5 years before you broke even. At the moment there is no road user charges,these are coming, currently petrol and desiel owners are subsidising electric and hybrid owners use of the roads and capital purchase that is unjust and screwing the scrum.