This is what I call a "subversive" bike. It's not meant to be ridden as a bike at all. It's really meant to be used primarily with the throttle. The reason the chain and gear set (and the warning) is there is to make it LOOK like a bike, and, as Shakespeare said, keep it on "the windy side of the law." Ariel, Juiced, Super73 all play in this space. I appreciate you have to navigate this space carefully when you review this "bike," but let's be real - the intent here is not bicycle riding; it's moped riding in disguise to avoid motor vehicle restrictions and insurance requirements that apply to ICE mopeds, scooters, and the like. For the record, I personally have nothing against this. This is something I would look at to put on my RV rack and use as a secondary means of travel. But as a motorcycle rider myself, I would also recommend that anyone taking this machine to its top speed limit wear a DOT-approved motorcycle helmet. Your noggin will thank you when you lay this baby down.
Yep. Agree 100%. I have an M-License and was very careful about how and where I rode the bike... and which mode I used. I write a bit more about this topic in the full review, and I wish everyone safety who chooses this or similar ebikes.
Respect you calling it out for what it is. Yes, they’re “checking the boxes” as you say. That it works is a flaw in the laws which should be addressed before the accidents not after.
@@frankfurter7260What flaw in the law? Most of the bikes mentioned all go 25-30 mph. Lots of normal ebikes go that fast with pedal assist. Just because someone isn't pedaling doesn't change anything
So my husband ordered this behind my back, lol. I just found out today. And after 1 day of research, vids, etc I ordered one, NOT $2699 but just under $2k, Pro. Next stop, helmets😄 Can’t wait to get them in Sept. Our kids are going to want their own.
I'm loving this channel. You're honest. The more popular these kinds of channels get the more kowtowing goes on until these reviews become just another marketing promotion. Don't ever change!
Thanks David, I'm doing my best! I know it's a lot of money to spend, so I try to handle things thoughtfully for viewers and go deep, but also give the company a chance to explain things and tell their story. I could tell they worked really hard on this.
Thanks for explaining that! I’ve seen some scoops on Tacomas that are only for decoration and not actually open. It’s cool to hear what they are actually for. Some older Corvettes appear to have functional scoops too :)
Pretty cool looking, wish they would have put the battery down low and given it rear suspension. The square/rectangle headlight does it for me, as does the seat. Fenders are actually cool. Frame looks nice. I like the tires for urban/city riding.
Nice looking bike, reminds me of the Sondors Madmods, and just as heavy,. But for nearly 3K, it seems like there are something things missing. mainly real suspension. and i would have thought the screen would be colour. It's got signal lights which is key. I like some things, but dislike some others.
The most complete review I've seen on this bike and I've watched them all. Your review is the ~only one~ that shows how to switch into off-road mode without an APP at 12:45 . Seems silly to make people use another device to operate the bike. Bike should be stand alone. Even the c3stom website has no information on use of the display. The bike doesn't even appear to include any type of owner's manual for servicing/cleaning/usage. Just an assembly manual.
Fair point, I like the full suspension designs and have seen some good mopeds for sale at the $2,800 price with Bosch motors, dual suspension, front and rear blinkers, DOT approved etc. but they don't have pedals. Here's an example: www.niu.com/en/u-series/
Get the ariel rider grizzly. Has suspension, can hold like 400 lbs and can unlock a setting that allows speeds up to 35mph. Even 37mph with pedal assist. Only issue is its also heavy can't adjust seat so it's not the best to peddle. And it apparently takes like 3 months to ship... but from what I read it's the best you can buy. And it's around the price of this bike
Yeah, I really like how it looks too. I was told that they made the frame, seat, fenders, and handlebar molds custom. Their designers did a great job to make it all fit well and also perform. It felt solid and smooth to me.
You might be right, I wasn't able to physically see the motor, and it seems like these days a company can stamp whatever they want on the casing. In terms of real world performance, it did feel very powerful during my ride tests. It was stronger than most of the regular electric bicycles I tend to cover.
Love it I call this the super 73 killer..I would love to see these in different colors tho not just the boring gray.. bright colors would also make you more visible in traffic too..
I agree. This one they are actually calling black. The other is silver. Both are def more masculine BUT the hubby ordered the silver. I will get this same color. I plan to get some decals.
@@jessicaal415 nice..I noticed stickers and decals draw attention...I painted over that weird Chinese name on my ebike and added some sticker and now everyone looking at my bike confused trying to figure who it's made by 🤣
Nice bike/moped.. I'm pretty sure the law makers would be heading back to the drawing board when these start filling up our streets but as for now lets enjoy the ride and be safe out there I'm also a new member to the ebike world and I'm loving it so far😃
Gorgeous design and features for the price. The problem I have is that the seat has no height adjustment. I'm the same height as Court and if you look at the third-person riding scene his knees come close to his chest. He also looks pretty scrunched up while pedaling. Doesn't seem comfortable on longer rides. I'd prefer a bit more leg extension which is not fixable on this bike.
Thanks! Yeah, the guys at Ariel Rider have done a great job, I love the variety! They are also nice people, I've enjoyed working with them every time we filmed a new bike.
👌+1 great review bro. Excellent. Excellent value and looking ebike too. Even though I custom build my own steeds, if I were in the market for a pre-made/retail/over-the-counter package, or to even simply recommend dedicated first-timers, ideally it would definitely be something like this here. Great job 'C3! 👍
I've been looking forward to buying this bike and have been looking for reviews on this bike and it just looks revolutionary in the electric bike market but not looking forward to the weight of it. Thanks for reviewing this. I wish they had more room for saddle bags on the back
Unlike the side scoops on this bike and most trucks any subaru that has a factory hood scoop is actually functional. The hood scoop provides direct air flow over the oil intercoller.
Thanks for doing this honest review! I'm wondering, how many miles do you think it would likely get on a charge while maintaining 20-30mph speeds across moderately hilly terrain? Assuming a fair amount of pedal assist. I've never rode an ebike and while I love my race and touring/gravel road bikes, I live about 16 miles from nearby towns in east TN and it's just enough to make the "normal" bikes too inconvenient for trips esp when I may be coming back after dark, also thinking about moving to maybe 40ish miles outside of DC and would be cool if this could for sure get to the city without losing charge while maintaining 20-30mph
This is next level quality compared to the on slot of cheap hub-drives in this class. Wish it was a mid-drive. Pedals are there for classification more than function. I really like this one.
A nice looking bike but its really too heavy (just like the Himiway escape). Also, if they planted the battery on the up-right tube it might have more utility around the tank space.
You're welcome, I didn't have any hills to test on at this location but the motor felt very powerful. I think it would do fine, especially with a bit of momentum and possibly pedaling at the very start if it's super steep. I'm grateful they went with 11-34 tooth spread vs. 14-28 tooth like a lot of the really cheap 7-speeds.
Lol, I would fall for this NOW if it wasn't mostly all the mods I already did to my 2019 Juiced City Scrambler. I.E. Rack, 30 amp MOCON controller, lighting & controls and spare battery. The City Scrambler has held up VERY WELL as my mod platform but the NEXT bike will either be a 2K or bigger direct drive for the re-gen or a HD mid drive. Assuming regs and laws in Maine don't go all California-NY nonpermissive. Funny how the loudest climate centric states are the most Draconian with e-transportation. Then again, we might all be "Mad Maxing" it in a year or two. (Already able to solar charge 90% a day) Got my hockey mask and transfer case collar all ready to go!
Looks better than a Super 73 or Onyx RCR but down on power. Hope it sells well and the company then bring out a V2 model with rear suspension and more power/battery and improved functionality.
Excitedly waiting for delivery hopefully anytime now. Can you tell me where you bought your white goggles. Contact lens wearer here and I need one bad. My ebike should be coming any day now🤞🏼Thank you.
Man Court that looks like it'd be super fun to rip around on with the throttle but not great at all if you actually wanted to pedal much. I do realllllly like that Dost though :-) Fun video to watch, keep up the good work!
Thanks! It was cool to have both bikes side by side and think about the differences. I love the variety that has come to the ebike space over the years :)
Oh yeah... definitely. I feel like this could be the transportation of our cyberpunk future where state boundaries, laws, and government itself become less relevant as they fall out of touch. People can do business directly without a middleman, vehicles all blur the lines and are valued based on performance vs. some arbitrary classification. It's interesting to think about, and will probably happen first in places like Las Vegas Nevada and Austin Texas.
That’s a heavy bike. For that weight I’d go juiced hyper scrambler and get rear suspension or Ariel Grizzly and get FS with twin 1000 watt motors. Glad he mentioned bike rack compatibility, can’t imagine any rack this bike would work on. I could get away with 60lb-ish bike but 100 is too much. Good if you’re going to do home to destination riding only
It looks fun, but as someone who's been riding bikes in a city for many years, this thing could be dangerous in a bike lane or a park path. Definitely falls into that grey area and stretches the definition of a bike imo. I'm not against it, but I think it's yet another example in a growing list of examples that shows we need to rethink the current classification system. Anyway, really thorough and well done review. Thank you for the good work and the transparency.
What range will it do? If your knees get into your armpits, leg/motor ratio will be like 0.1/0.9 at best. My Cube Cargo, same vehicle weight, same battery, can do over 120km with ease as on straight tracks motor power often goes off or below 10%. This thing will probably quit at 30-40km.
Yeah, chain guard would be nice... I'd probably use some clear box tape to protect the chain stay. I think the long chain was an afterthought. They probably picked the design, made sure the wheels were spaced apart so you wouldn't kick the front fender... and also so it didn't look too compact. Since the wheels have a smaller diameter, the wheelbase is longer (even though the overall length is about the same as a normal bike). The result is a longer chain length to reach that rear axle. It's not the end of the world, and I think it's a common design compromise for this type of minibike style product.
hey guys I'm about to review the rize bolt x I should have it within a 2 week time frame and I plan on making a review in the sane style you guys do do you have any advice for me ?
I really wish the seat was made of a different materials looks like it could be ruined very easily... other then that, looks like a really bad ass bike
A very grey area being an E-bike but really an E-scooter/motorcycle , in some countries like Australia you would have to license it or it would be totally illegal . Off-road it would be okay but then you have the problem of the low pedal cranks and chain ring which would hit just about any object you went over . I like the low price but not really for me , it's an electric motorcycle :-)
@@bindingcurve I don't really think you can say a bicycle with an electric motor is a moped . They are so different , the wheel size , seating position and a 2 stroke motor for the moped make them a lot different . Also a E-mountain bike can go off road whereas a moped is only for the road .
@@bindingcurve A bigger distinction is a Moped and the rider have to be licensed and an E-bike not . Also try riding a moped on a shared cycleway and see how far you get when it's only for bicycles and pedestrians .
Yeah, it's setup with plenty of space in the center for adding additional batteries. I feel like it could be difficult to change the hub motor, since it's encased in the cast wheel. How would you approach it? Which motor would you go for? Something from Luna maybe?
I weigh 135lbs and was able to reach 32mph when testing this on private property. They say 750 watt motor nominal, I do not have a way to test this for myself.
They said 25 miles with throttle only (assuming a 160lb rider on flat pavement with no wind). The upper limit is probably around 60 miles if so he lowest assist level is used in the same conditions.
Hi Luis, it does come with a half-grip twist throttle on the right handle. You can see close up video or pictures on the full review here: electricbikereview.com/c3strom/2022-astro-pro/
Yeah, I suspect there's a trade-off in making it look cool, handle the fat tires, be sturdy enough for this kind of speed, and also trying to keep the weight low. I found that it actually provided a sense of stability and security, but there are many times I've ridden my light weight non-electric mountain bike over 28mph and felt comfortable too.
Good point Tom. I've ridden a number of Vespas, and even had a moped when I was growing up. My Grandpa helped me fix it... I traded a go-kart for it and it was so fun to get it working and zip around his farm!!
I want one. But, I won't pay that much for it. Maybe if it were street legal, but still, too much for esthetic, the capacity is no different than a $1200 bike. peace
its definitely worth it at the indiegogo "risk takers" price, but at $2700+ then its more of a toss up i feel like they put pedals on it just so it would be classified as an ebike and not a moped
This is what I call a "subversive" bike. It's not meant to be ridden as a bike at all. It's really meant to be used primarily with the throttle. The reason the chain and gear set (and the warning) is there is to make it LOOK like a bike, and, as Shakespeare said, keep it on "the windy side of the law." Ariel, Juiced, Super73 all play in this space. I appreciate you have to navigate this space carefully when you review this "bike," but let's be real - the intent here is not bicycle riding; it's moped riding in disguise to avoid motor vehicle restrictions and insurance requirements that apply to ICE mopeds, scooters, and the like. For the record, I personally have nothing against this. This is something I would look at to put on my RV rack and use as a secondary means of travel. But as a motorcycle rider myself, I would also recommend that anyone taking this machine to its top speed limit wear a DOT-approved motorcycle helmet. Your noggin will thank you when you lay this baby down.
Yep. Agree 100%. I have an M-License and was very careful about how and where I rode the bike... and which mode I used. I write a bit more about this topic in the full review, and I wish everyone safety who chooses this or similar ebikes.
Very well said!
I was laughing as Cort tried to compare it to the Dost.
Respect you calling it out for what it is. Yes, they’re “checking the boxes” as you say. That it works is a flaw in the laws which should be addressed before the accidents not after.
@@frankfurter7260What flaw in the law? Most of the bikes mentioned all go 25-30 mph. Lots of normal ebikes go that fast with pedal assist. Just because someone isn't pedaling doesn't change anything
Insane how someone doesnt just release this as street legal.
So my husband ordered this behind my back, lol. I just found out today. And after 1 day of research, vids, etc I ordered one, NOT $2699 but just under $2k, Pro.
Next stop, helmets😄
Can’t wait to get them in Sept. Our kids are going to want their own.
I'm loving this channel. You're honest. The more popular these kinds of channels get the more kowtowing goes on until these reviews become just another marketing promotion. Don't ever change!
Thanks David, I'm doing my best! I know it's a lot of money to spend, so I try to handle things thoughtfully for viewers and go deep, but also give the company a chance to explain things and tell their story. I could tell they worked really hard on this.
Scoops on the Subaru hoods are for the top mounted intercoolers.
Thanks for explaining that! I’ve seen some scoops on Tacomas that are only for decoration and not actually open. It’s cool to hear what they are actually for. Some older Corvettes appear to have functional scoops too :)
Pretty cool looking, wish they would have put the battery down low and given it rear suspension. The square/rectangle headlight does it for me, as does the seat. Fenders are actually cool. Frame looks nice. I like the tires for urban/city riding.
Nice looking bike, reminds me of the Sondors Madmods, and just as heavy,. But for nearly 3K, it seems like there are something things missing. mainly real suspension. and i would have thought the screen would be colour. It's got signal lights which is key. I like some things, but dislike some others.
I bought this exact bike today. The actual one in this test video! Its awesome!
The most complete review I've seen on this bike and I've watched them all. Your review is the ~only one~ that shows how to switch into off-road mode without an APP at 12:45 . Seems silly to make people use another device to operate the bike. Bike should be stand alone. Even the c3stom website has no information on use of the display. The bike doesn't even appear to include any type of owner's manual for servicing/cleaning/usage. Just an assembly manual.
Your intelligence really shows through in these reviews. I had to subscribe, as i realized i missed some. Thank you!!
Nice I like seeing different designs instead of the same bikes over & over again.😎
I like the way that e-bike looks. It has a lot going for it, but I think it needs a rear suspension especially when you're going over 30 mph.
Fair point, I like the full suspension designs and have seen some good mopeds for sale at the $2,800 price with Bosch motors, dual suspension, front and rear blinkers, DOT approved etc. but they don't have pedals. Here's an example: www.niu.com/en/u-series/
I also love the design.
@@ElectricBikeReview do you have other good emoped in the low price range to recommend?
Get the ariel rider grizzly. Has suspension, can hold like 400 lbs and can unlock a setting that allows speeds up to 35mph. Even 37mph with pedal assist. Only issue is its also heavy can't adjust seat so it's not the best to peddle. And it apparently takes like 3 months to ship... but from what I read it's the best you can buy. And it's around the price of this bike
👍🏽 I like it I think it looks better than the Super73
Yeah, I really like how it looks too. I was told that they made the frame, seat, fenders, and handlebar molds custom. Their designers did a great job to make it all fit well and also perform. It felt solid and smooth to me.
They should develop a storage box similar to the Honda Navi. I think that would really complete the look and be very functional.
I'm Quite sure the Bafang Wheels are 500 watt Handsome Bike that is pretty awesome for $2.7k lots of Power
You might be right, I wasn't able to physically see the motor, and it seems like these days a company can stamp whatever they want on the casing. In terms of real world performance, it did feel very powerful during my ride tests. It was stronger than most of the regular electric bicycles I tend to cover.
It is a big step up from a 250W motor ebike that I have that cost $9K Specialized! Cheap bargain price!
Love it I call this the super 73 killer..I would love to see these in different colors tho not just the boring gray.. bright colors would also make you more visible in traffic too..
I agree. This one they are actually calling black. The other is silver.
Both are def more masculine BUT the hubby ordered the silver. I will get this same color. I plan to get some decals.
@@jessicaal415 nice..I noticed stickers and decals draw attention...I painted over that weird Chinese name on my ebike and added some sticker and now everyone looking at my bike confused trying to figure who it's made by 🤣
Nice bike/moped.. I'm pretty sure the law makers would be heading back to the drawing board when these start filling up our streets but as for now lets enjoy the ride and be safe out there I'm also a new member to the ebike world and I'm loving it so far😃
Gorgeous design and features for the price. The problem I have is that the seat has no height adjustment. I'm the same height as Court and if you look at the third-person riding scene his knees come close to his chest. He also looks pretty scrunched up while pedaling. Doesn't seem comfortable on longer rides. I'd prefer a bit more leg extension which is not fixable on this bike.
I like the style of that bike, it will be a challenge for them to compete with Ariel Rider, though! Great vid.
Thanks! Yeah, the guys at Ariel Rider have done a great job, I love the variety! They are also nice people, I've enjoyed working with them every time we filmed a new bike.
Ariel Rider??? Super73 sells more than Ariel Rider...
@@NoName-iz6bs yeah but Ariel rider has better specs
@@adrienalecio9605 People like Super73's, that's why they sell more! Better specs don't mean shit if it doesn't sell
👌+1 great review bro. Excellent. Excellent value and looking ebike too. Even though I custom build my own steeds, if I were in the market for a pre-made/retail/over-the-counter package, or to even simply recommend dedicated first-timers, ideally it would definitely be something like this here. Great job 'C3! 👍
I've been looking forward to buying this bike and have been looking for reviews on this bike and it just looks revolutionary in the electric bike market but not looking forward to the weight of it. Thanks for reviewing this. I wish they had more room for saddle bags on the back
Unlike the side scoops on this bike and most trucks any subaru that has a factory hood scoop is actually functional. The hood scoop provides direct air flow over the oil intercoller.
“You don’t want a sharp lever that could impale you.” You want a rounded lever that could impale you. 😂
Well, I'm just repeating what I've learned from motorcycle friends... perhaps it's a little less likely to impale you? Internal bleeding only?! 🤣
Great ebike! Looks super smooth. 🔌 🚴
The only missing on this ebike is the rear suspension...
Thanks for doing this honest review! I'm wondering, how many miles do you think it would likely get on a charge while maintaining 20-30mph speeds across moderately hilly terrain? Assuming a fair amount of pedal assist. I've never rode an ebike and while I love my race and touring/gravel road bikes, I live about 16 miles from nearby towns in east TN and it's just enough to make the "normal" bikes too inconvenient for trips esp when I may be coming back after dark, also thinking about moving to maybe 40ish miles outside of DC and would be cool if this could for sure get to the city without losing charge while maintaining 20-30mph
How does it compare to the Juiced Scorpion/Hyper Scorpion?
Love the review but you didn't show how to turn on the bike, is there an ignition slot to insert the key??
This is next level quality compared to the on slot of cheap hub-drives in this class. Wish it was a mid-drive. Pedals are there for classification more than function. I really like this one.
A nice looking bike but its really too heavy (just like the Himiway escape). Also, if they planted the battery on the up-right tube it might have more utility around the tank space.
By the way great review but a Subaru hood scoop is functional blows air right into the top mount intercooler FYI!!!!
Would be nice if it had rear suspension
Doesn't need it with those sized tires.
It looks fast. Curious on the top speed and how it handles hills? Ty for this review, over all it looks cool.
You're welcome, I didn't have any hills to test on at this location but the motor felt very powerful. I think it would do fine, especially with a bit of momentum and possibly pedaling at the very start if it's super steep. I'm grateful they went with 11-34 tooth spread vs. 14-28 tooth like a lot of the really cheap 7-speeds.
@@ElectricBikeReview ty so much for the reply
The regular model goes top speed 28mph and the pro model goes 32mph
Lol, I would fall for this NOW if it wasn't mostly all the mods I already did to my 2019 Juiced City Scrambler. I.E. Rack, 30 amp MOCON controller, lighting & controls and spare battery.
The City Scrambler has held up VERY WELL as my mod platform but the NEXT bike will either be a 2K or bigger direct drive for the re-gen or a HD mid drive. Assuming regs and laws in Maine don't go all California-NY nonpermissive.
Funny how the loudest climate centric states are the most Draconian with e-transportation.
Then again, we might all be "Mad Maxing" it in a year or two. (Already able to solar charge 90% a day) Got my hockey mask and transfer case collar all ready to go!
Looks better than a Super 73 or Onyx RCR but down on power.
Hope it sells well and the company then bring out a V2 model with rear suspension and more power/battery and improved functionality.
What's the top speed throttle only?
Damn that Astro looks nice! Definitely not trying to be a bicycle.
Subaru bonnet scoop is fully functional 👍🏻
Nice, thanks! I’ve also seen some older Corvettes with functional scoops :)
The scoop automatically adds 10 horses. Everyone knows that.
@@ericmestanza2335 the truth would be closer to 20hp for a Subaru maybe a lot more in some cases.
"Set it, and forget it!", and Turn Signals!!😎🙌
Excitedly waiting for delivery hopefully anytime now. Can you tell me where you bought your white goggles. Contact lens wearer here and I need one bad.
My ebike should be coming any day now🤞🏼Thank you.
I love the design of the bike. Is 750 w hub motor big enough? Looks like it needs a 3,000 w hub motor.?
35 amp controller in there and it's got a bluetooth app to unlock it
Man Court that looks like it'd be super fun to rip around on with the throttle but not great at all if you actually wanted to pedal much. I do realllllly like that Dost though :-) Fun video to watch, keep up the good work!
Thanks! It was cool to have both bikes side by side and think about the differences. I love the variety that has come to the ebike space over the years :)
I'd get some looks on the Seabus/Skytrain.
Oh yeah... definitely. I feel like this could be the transportation of our cyberpunk future where state boundaries, laws, and government itself become less relevant as they fall out of touch. People can do business directly without a middleman, vehicles all blur the lines and are valued based on performance vs. some arbitrary classification. It's interesting to think about, and will probably happen first in places like Las Vegas Nevada and Austin Texas.
Looks like tons of Fun
Be Safe my friend
Bike week Hobo
🤑👀🚲🛵🏴☠️☀️👍
Thanks Braxton! Hope you're having a great day :)
Great review... thx. Where can I buy it? I can't find anywhere that allows me to purchase
So they have to compete with Super73, ONYX, Surron, and Ariel Rider. The motor is kinda loud like you said.
Good price though.
It's loud because the gears are steel instead of nylons so they last longer
@@chrisMc1972 Oh...ok. I didn't know that.
They just need to launch their company better website . Buying it at the moment seems rushed
Why does the bottom bracket look like that (boxy) almost like it's meant for the Bafang ultra mid drive?
That’s a heavy bike. For that weight I’d go juiced hyper scrambler and get rear suspension or Ariel Grizzly and get FS with twin 1000 watt motors. Glad he mentioned bike rack compatibility, can’t imagine any rack this bike would work on. I could get away with 60lb-ish bike but 100 is too much.
Good if you’re going to do home to destination riding only
Those bikes cost more than $2200. For that price I think you get a lot of quality.
I love everything about this bike 🚲 but is there any mods setups with a gas powered 80cc Motor with just the same setups
It looks fun, but as someone who's been riding bikes in a city for many years, this thing could be dangerous in a bike lane or a park path. Definitely falls into that grey area and stretches the definition of a bike imo. I'm not against it, but I think it's yet another example in a growing list of examples that shows we need to rethink the current classification system.
Anyway, really thorough and well done review. Thank you for the good work and the transparency.
People don’t really buy these kinda bikes for trails or parks
What range will it do? If your knees get into your armpits, leg/motor ratio will be like 0.1/0.9 at best. My Cube Cargo, same vehicle weight, same battery, can do over 120km with ease as on straight tracks motor power often goes off or below 10%. This thing will probably quit at 30-40km.
Great thorough review. Not enough bike for $2,700!!😆
Wdym it has way better specs than the super 73 z Miami and it’s perfect for starter e bike
$1999
No chain guard and why did they make the chain so long ?
Yeah, chain guard would be nice... I'd probably use some clear box tape to protect the chain stay. I think the long chain was an afterthought. They probably picked the design, made sure the wheels were spaced apart so you wouldn't kick the front fender... and also so it didn't look too compact. Since the wheels have a smaller diameter, the wheelbase is longer (even though the overall length is about the same as a normal bike). The result is a longer chain length to reach that rear axle. It's not the end of the world, and I think it's a common design compromise for this type of minibike style product.
Can you take the Chain and peddals off and use Bike Pegs?
hey guys I'm about to review the rize bolt x I should have it within a 2 week time frame
and I plan on making a review in the sane style you guys do
do you have any advice for me ?
I really wish the seat was made of a different materials looks like it could be ruined very easily... other then that, looks like a really bad ass bike
what is that annoying chirp sound coming from the motor or wheel?
Super 73 uses the same charger from the glance of the charger plug.
saw this being advertised for 1700-1900 online
No rear suspension. And it would be nice if the seat height was adjustable, with seat shocks.
The upside down shifter has been fixed.
You should look at gt20 ebike
Not too long ago this was on a Kickstarter for $1,000 less. $1,700 it's a great deal for $2,700 not so much.
I just ordered one today. $1999 for the Pro.
Do you see your buddy Chris anymore?
A very grey area being an E-bike but really an E-scooter/motorcycle , in some countries like Australia you would have to license it or it would be totally illegal . Off-road it would be okay but then you have the problem of the low pedal cranks and chain ring which would hit just about any object you went over . I like the low price but not really for me , it's an electric motorcycle :-)
It's a moped. “Mo-” for motor, and “-ped” for pedals. But lets be hones, all E-Bikes are mopeds 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bindingcurve I don't really think you can say a bicycle with an electric motor is a moped . They are so different , the wheel size , seating position and a 2 stroke motor for the moped make them a lot different . Also a E-mountain bike can go off road whereas a moped is only for the road .
@@TheSkskitey the ONLY distinction is the power and speed. That's it.
@@bindingcurve A bigger distinction is a Moped and the rider have to be licensed and an E-bike not . Also try riding a moped on a shared cycleway and see how far you get when it's only for bicycles and pedestrians .
@@TheSkskitey And a "e-bike" that does 30MPH is just as illegal on the bikeway. Like I said, power and speed.
What a lovely ebike
I think the point of this bike is to stick a load of batteries in the middle and add a 4kw motor in it.
Yeah, it's setup with plenty of space in the center for adding additional batteries. I feel like it could be difficult to change the hub motor, since it's encased in the cast wheel. How would you approach it? Which motor would you go for? Something from Luna maybe?
Was thinking instead of the e-battery there would be a 12v motorcycle/atv battery 🔋 installed there
I'm worried the rear turn signal might be difficult for drivers to see, otherwise it looks like a great bike
Looks like the fastest ebike yet! Go up to 28 mph. Wow!😆 Watch out Ninja 650! 😀
The Ariel Rider X is the fastest in the class 36 mph
The Ariel Rider X 1000 watt---- peak 2000 watt
Is there any UK suppliers? thanks.
somehow im doubting it gets to 32mph with that 750w motor and the heavy weight of the bike. maybe if you pedal really really hard.
I weigh 135lbs and was able to reach 32mph when testing this on private property. They say 750 watt motor nominal, I do not have a way to test this for myself.
indeed, i did ask what was the peak power and they said it was capped around 1400 for safety reasons.
For what it's worth, I have a 750w bike I got from Amazon that goes around 30mph. Around 75-ish lbs, and I weight about 205 lbs.
What is the cost of a 750 watt ebike?
Estimated range?
They said 25 miles with throttle only (assuming a 160lb rider on flat pavement with no wind). The upper limit is probably around 60 miles if so he lowest assist level is used in the same conditions.
This bike is 2k right now and honestly, I wouldn't pay any more.
I just got one today. My husband had ordered one earlier. We’re both getting them in Sept.
What's the minimum height requirement of the rider?
Does that ebike comes with a throttle
It’s more of a motorcycle or moped so of course it does.
Hi Luis, it does come with a half-grip twist throttle on the right handle. You can see close up video or pictures on the full review here: electricbikereview.com/c3strom/2022-astro-pro/
Subarus hoods are functional!
Nice heavy duty bike lol best with dual motors 750wx2 😇😜.
I'm liking it...except for the weight. About 20 pounds too heavy at least.
Yeah, I suspect there's a trade-off in making it look cool, handle the fat tires, be sturdy enough for this kind of speed, and also trying to keep the weight low. I found that it actually provided a sense of stability and security, but there are many times I've ridden my light weight non-electric mountain bike over 28mph and felt comfortable too.
Everyone's question, is it better than a Super 73?
Mais pourquoi vous ne le vendez pas en France?? Il est trop beau!!!! Pitié, donnez le nous! 😭😭😭😭
Wrong size tires in the description.
Great catch! I've updated it here and on the site ;)
What’s the top speed?
No you like it because it has a throttle ,you don't try out the Copenhagen Wheel like I have pedal assist only is what I have
Subaru scoops are functional
Bottom line: too exspensive for no rear suspension
add " spring " forks, no seat adjustment and not including a 2nd battery (in the single battery pricing), there's more but i've said enough!
The battery charger port cover is too flimsy. I don't think it will last a few months. Things simple like this make me wonder what I cannot see.
It's only $1899 right now
Motorcycles have full suspension
Good point Tom. I've ridden a number of Vespas, and even had a moped when I was growing up. My Grandpa helped me fix it... I traded a go-kart for it and it was so fun to get it working and zip around his farm!!
I want one. But, I won't pay that much for it. Maybe if it were street legal, but still, too much for esthetic, the capacity is no different than a $1200 bike. peace
its definitely worth it at the indiegogo "risk takers" price, but at $2700+ then its more of a toss up
i feel like they put pedals on it just so it would be classified as an ebike and not a moped
moped s have pedals, “Mo-” for motor, and “-ped” for pedals.
$1999
@@jessicaal415 that’s the preorder price
Long chain without clutch derailleur...
10lb 20ah battery pack? Impressive. That is all
Good luck finding that battery in 5 years.
This is not a bicycle it is an electric moped.
The bike is nice but it's too much. Plastic fenders on a 2700.00 bike. I would buy it for 1700.00.
when cornering at speed if low hanging object catch the road or curb etc it can be very dangerous
Too expensive. My Kaabo mantis pro has dual 1000 W motors for a thousand less…
That's a scooter though not a bike...
Get a bike that does 30 mph for 50 miles and be done with it.😎
Its nothing like a motorcycle... its more of a fatboy bicycle lol. these has existed for least 20 years or more, prob 40 years just not E powered.