eMachines eOne: 1999 Apple iMac Knockoff
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- The eOne is one of the most blatant ripoff computers from the 90s. Apple sued eMachines and got it pulled from shelves and banned from sale worldwide. Let's examine what made Apple so angry!
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The fact that you can hook up a game console to the emachine is pretty cool imo
Apple you should be ashamed you didn't even put a function to hook up game consoles geez Apple you should be all Shane Apple
No one asked for it
Yeah, especially for people like me, that are both PC and Console gamers.
You used to be able to do that on the old Mac's as well. They had cable and AV jacks in the tower and you could watch TV, you could even record in *very* low quality. I felt sooooo cool back in the day 😂
That was something way ahead of it's time now that you look at it!
When I was younger, my friend had one of these.
He then took a picture of his friend doing a kickflip on his Mavica and photoshopped it so it looked like he was kickflipping off the roof of his house, then set it as the desktop background in Windows 98.
His mother was not impressed.
What if emachines won that lawsuit? Would they have gone to make the ephone?
No way of knowing since emachines went down the crapper not much later...lol
Well EMachines had dozens other patent infringement cases still against them from other companies and part of their business plan was to make free computers that would display ads. Basically EMachines was built on the bottom of the bottom components. I don't think their freemachines would have actually lasted long enough to display enough ads to recoup costs for them...but yeah...Where would EMachines be now? Gone.
Or Epods or Epads
@@AveragePicker But around 20 years ago that was a great idea. Get a basic browsing computer for free and get adds displayed. It's the concept all the companys like google, facebook and others use. Use the service for free and get adds. But today you have to buy the hardware youself.
@@michasreisefieber It might have been an ok idea, but the product was complete crap. There was even a brief period of time when the modems they used could be gotten for sub $5, with a $5 rebate. They were really just an absolute waste of money. It was not uncommon to get calls about them essentially bricked within the first month of purchase. I could even give you some sad christmas day stories where they didn't even work out of the box. I worked at one point for a sort of behind the scenes internet company, and we had so problems with them that techs stopped entering notes and just wrote "emachine."
And before someone says they had one and it was fine, ok..I'm sure there was an outlier or two out there. There are probably some that will still boot today. (I've got a pc-jr that still boots and runs, doesn't make it a great computer overall.) And when it can't stay online...well the idea might be fine, but it can't even do the minimum it was meant to be, it's a bad product. Even 20 years later I can still remember most of the init strings we'd try to keep them limping along for a bit longer.
Despite the fact I think it would be difficult to mistake for a Mac, it did fool a number of people, particularly grandparents, which is pretty off-putting too.
*How to get sued by Apple.*
Fix a broken iPhone and then tell people how you did it.
And Apple lost!
@@LegoWormNoah101 yayyyyy
Wait fucking what?
@Jimmith McJimbo II Apple doesnt like people who tell the public their devices are fixable. They want you to buy a new iPhone/iMac so they tried suing someone who did and lost. Apple are crooks and dont deserve anyones money honestly.
I work on iPhones all day. I want Apple to try, LOL.
"it was also less costly than an iMac by several hundred dollars while technically including more features and higher specs". So, nothing new, right?
CDB years ago i cashed in points at work for a free mp3 player. options were a 4gb ipod or 30gb zune. the zune was awesome.
You got it nothing new, and In my eyes the last product line where Apple really did any real innovation was the Apple IIGS line, and Steve had little to do with it as we know, and was jealous of Woz out performing his hand picked team who designed the Mac. It's a shame Woz did not get to take over control of the company when Jobs was ousted.
Yeah, better specs on paper but a worse user experience than an actual Mac. Nothing new indeed!
Except that it doesn’t have Apple’s build quality. Especially the monitor.
Zed, I have to disagree since software applications of the Mac back then where so limited for the average user, and more so if you where a PC gamer at the time, and the same still holds true today in my view.
That was literally my first computer. It also might have been possessed. The CD rom drive would occassionally spin at max speed for no reason even when turned off. I loved that computer haha
Shane Fullerton are you 30?😦
The fucking cd rom was spinning fast while the pc was off?
You had a goddammit cursed pc
@@ironcasm5406 people can be as old as 30,
actually, they could very well become even older!!!
@@superultrathanksmom3845 I know right! People being older than 30 in 2019!?! Ommggg 🙄
Shane Fullerton I had a Packard bell Cyrix 233 MHz nick named the Packard smell 😂 I ran everything on that pc in the end it fell over and never got back up I loved that pc 👍👍
6:20
You want to know why Apple manufactured the iMac with a handle? It was to encourage people to *touch it* .
I think eMachines thought it was for show...
Blox the Memer Oh I always thought it was for a rope to be tied to so you can use it as boat 🚣♀️ anchor! Lol
*corona lockdowns intensify*
A handle, you say? 🤔 🖐️🍆🤚
I remember trying to open this machine to add memory and it gave me a giant jolt of electricity when I accidentally touched the inner shielding. Good times.
Are you okay?!
@@LegoWormNoah101 sadly he died. but he got better!
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To be honest, just the fact you could play and record gameplay of older consoles would have been a Sale for me back then.
...Heck, I actualy want it right now. Seems so much fun to mess around with.
@Mint III yes but this was built in. Much better
I have a Sony vaio desktop tower with a built in cap card with composite and s-video inputs which I got for absolutely nothing! Still a great way to capture non-HD console games without fiddling around with GV-USB 2 etc...
VhinyDude1993
You can also get a dvr or vcr instead.
Nathaniel12345678910 yes I have the Sony PCV-RS704
you can use a tv tuner card for component video
video capture built in!? this thing actually was rather solid for the price / year...
Amiga had those capabilities and more years before Apple computers came unto the scene.
Nope.. I had a AMD Athlon in 1999 & it wiped the floor with even a Pentium III.. Only 2 years later we were seeing 3.4 GHz cpus.. Not much has changed really since other than the cores/threads & how the cpus manage the workloads & the manufacturing process.
Only Apple had FireWire which was way better for digital video. Macs before this did have RCA and S-Video capture cards as an option.
its not a "video capture" actually, it was a tv tunner, the video capture was an "extra" feat of the well known bt484a tv chip!
And then asshole fruit company sued life out of them for making better for cheaper
Looking back now, it seems absolutely ridiculous that Apple won those cases. Its totally common place now for every company to come out with their version of the latest and greatest tech trend.
I was thinking the same thing. The idea seems too general--just an all-in-one computer with some translucent colored plastic--to legally forbid anyone else from making something similar.
There's something so beautiful and futuristic about those Y2k pseudo-futuristic design. I'd much rather have a cool curvy designed pc case with bright colored plastic and translucent bits over a modern metal and glass rectangle.
That startup sound though
Yeah, super nostalgic.
switch on your new computer go deaf, thank you emachines.
Musica Sound Scheme?
I got his by nostaliga
Composite input?! I'm sold!
I thought the same
You're Perfect Studio Me too, I never had a CRT monitor that allowed RCA or composite input for connecting game consoles or VCR's or DVD's. I want one, of a new motherboard would be a necessity as well as two or 3 video output options (as is usually the case anymore even with "Onboard Graphics") so I can use the built in CRT purely for nostalgic reasons and run an HDMI and a DVI cable out of the case somewhere for an LCD monitor. Might be a fun project.
I wanted this so bad back in the day! I remember walking through Circuit City trying to figure out how to afford it! 😂😂
Buy it with the 3 years of compuserve to get $400 off and then cancel that credit card or use a prepaid card 😂
I just found your channel. It's really fun watching your videos and reminiscing
about the old stuff. You've made me want to go get some old 90s pc games. PC gaming was always my favorite. Wolf 3D was my #1 fav.
holy crap these knockoffs were everywhere back then, what a time to be alive
ThomasTankCollectables I read that in Thomas' voice
There are a lot of different iPhone and Samsung clones in China that are much more similar to the real thing than this is to the iMac. Just search TH-cam for "iphone clone" or "samsung clone" to see.
You should have been there the first time you saw a DVD running on a CRT monitor.
That was the "translucent age" cases, keyboards, mice, everything had a piece of translucent plastic
And some of them were actually good, lmao. xD
The FM synth chip sounds like it keeps getting distracted by something shiny and forgetting it needs to play music
Emachines were 95 percent of my tech support biz in the 90s before I started pentesting professionally
I repaired a lot eMachines, as well as Packaged Hell (Packard Bell).
This computer is the definition of “a Jack of all trades but a master of none”
I think I would have liked to have this as a kid. Just being able to plug in my game console and record footage was really cool!
I would have killed for a way to digitise my VHS in that era.
Thing is though these old computers could let you view things live but recording things while playing games was another, unless you had it connected to both your TV and this computer so you can record on the computer and play on the TV (even today underpowered computers cause lag when recording games)
But that's exactly what he was talking about: Record from a console, not from the computer itself (like, play Quake on that PC and record it like we do today).
I still have a hauppauge card, but cannot find the right drivers and software for it unfortunately.
not only that. doing all the stuff
I miss when electronic devices were all made out of translucent plastic, it was such a cool aesthetic.
It's like a prison TV
Or you can get a windowed pc case
I respectfully disagree
True. We don't have enough plastic in this world.
@Tobias W Short fuse much?
Recently got back into your vids- Thanks for all the awesome content man! I wish your channel was around when i was a kid omg
Back in the day, Apple fervently argued that their PowerPC G3 processors were much faster than the Intel options with 100+mhz higher clock speeds, due to the differences in x86 and RISC architecture. They even gave fun demos of the two or three FPS games that ran on Mac at the time and a shitload of Photoshop benchmarks to prove their excellence.
The G3s *were* a ton faster than Intel at the same megahertz
@@MaxOakland that's not much of an achievement. Even today, Intel chips are impressively shit at everything.
@@daemonspudguy no they ain’t, intel is industry standard or at least was when I was growing up
@@wolfetteplays8894 being the industry standard ≠ being good. Even sticking with X6, AMD has been making products that are just better in every way.
I love the subtitles. Just an extra detail most other channels don't care about. "Listen to it trying to play the Duke Nuken 3D's theme song." "*it's bad*" later: "*it's getting worse*"
6:51 _"... Attractive?"_ is the perfect way to describe the 90's in general :)
Also, LGR, as someone who's hard-of-hearing, can I just thank you for doing such a great job with your subtitles? I feel like there's only 1% of people watching this who will see things like * It is unfortunate * at 8:08, but I love those little touches :D
Glad they're appreciated! I enjoy sticking little bonus lines in there
Oh, absolutely, man! At the very least, they usually give me a chuckle :)
I feel like I've been missing out! Time to marathon all of LGR's videos with subtitles!
Yeah, subtitles are great.
I keep them on since I'm not an english native speaker and I really enjoy those * ironic comments *.
+1, other offer their own form of humor, but LGR's humor is more intentional and intelligilble
That mouse is much better than the most criticised hockey puck mouse.
6:41 "That doesn't sound that bad. Actually, that seems quite good!"
6:46 "Oh."
Moral of the story: Bite the Apple before it bite you.
Apple is an analogy for original sin.
@@horseblinderson4747 yeah, it's no coincidence how much the first apple computer costed.
Y E S
This thing would have been insane for capturing old game console footage on back in the day
If your videos were an alcoholic drink, they would be an oak matured artisan cider made using the best apples known to man. Smooth, classy and sweet. Keep up the great work Clint, it's an absolute joy to watch your videos!
Apple would have never won that lawsuit today. Those two machines are completely different in every way. I guess the court thought Apple was the only company that could make translucent computers.
Bit of an unfair lawsuit, so what if they used the same colored plastic, the parts and everything else was different to the apple. Its like being sued for making a TV in a wooden box which was the norm back in the day. its so amazing how you can copyright a box.
No it's not like that at all. The whole point is that the iMac completely broke the mould of what a home computer looked like by NOT being just the generic beige box which was the norm. At the time, the iMac was the ONLY computer that looked the way it did, and the eOne was deliberately copying that, to the extent that eMachines' own advertising literature basically admitted it, along the lines of "if you like the look of the iMac but don't want to spend that much, get the eOne".
As Apple said at the time, there were endless ways eMachines could have designed its own all-in-one computer so it DIDN'T so obviously evoke the design of the iMac, in which case there would have been no lawsuit.
dunebasher1971 it may have been revolutionary but I still think it's ridiculous to copyright a neon box. It would be like if Apple copyrighted the iPod and any other company that made a pocket mp3 player with a LCD screen could be sued.
The Vegan Bear: Or if they sued Google because the Android voice recording app had an image of a microphone on it ... oh wait, they actually did that one.
Or if they sued Samsung for having square icons with slightly rounded corners ... oh wait, they did that one too.
The bulk of their litigation has always had to do with the "look and feel" of their products because that's essentially what they do. They take technology that everyone else is using (Intel Processors, ATI graphics, Unix-like OS) and put it in a very shiny very expensive box, then patent the box. They are a brand that is entirely built around an image. If you take that image from them they have nothing left.
Back in the 70s, Woz built something entirely new and innovative, but Apple hasn't created anything new since he left. Their only innovation has been unique design aesthetics. It's much easier if you think of Apple as a high-end boutique design firm instead of a computer company.
Emachine should have just painted it black instead and said they based the design off of tvs not apple.
Apple is the most valuable publicly traded company in the world, worth over a trillion dollars . That’s pretty conclusive proof they are more than just “a brand built around image”
Capture card capability is pretty dope.
Without a keyboard it looks like one of those turn of the century TVs with a build in DVD player
It does
I have to admit you do have a very good voice plus a great Duke voice
I don't mind somebody bringing back this translucent colour concept to a smartphone or PC these days.
Choo Kwang Zhee That would be great.
Me too, i loved that translucent blue plastic everywhere from computers and cellphones to TV's and home appliances.
I would love if they released, say, graphic cards with colored translucent plastic instead of all the RGB bullshit they come with these days.
Done right it would be alright, but I have a feeling Apple being Apple would go on a suing spree over it again if someone was trying to make all in one computers, or laptops with translucent designs.
About the only thing these days that still does use that design aesthetic are special order electronics for prison systems like pocket radios, earbuds/headphones, and TV's so the inmates can't hide stuff inside of them.
Choo Kwang Zhee sadly apple did make an iphone out of not-shatterable not-scratchable acrylic and people shat on it for being cheap even as they walked around with their cracked screen and cracked back phone
I worked at Circuit City in the late 90's and we sold these. Well, we tried not to. I can't think of any sales person who would recommend these and most hated having them in the store. That being said, it's really messed up that companies like Apple can sue companies like this. eMachines should have just failed on their own because they were crap (unless they were really good at marketing like Apple who got (still get) people to buy their crap).
Also, I hate when people call things like this a "Knock Off". To me a "Knock Off" is a J̶e̶a̶n̶-̶C̶l̶a̶u̶d̶e̶ ̶V̶a̶n̶ ̶D̶a̶m̶m̶e̶ ̶M̶o̶v̶i̶e̶ product that is trying trick people into thinking it's another product. Not one that just does similar things. If they put Apple's logo on there and told people it was made by Apple, yeah that would be wrong. But this, this is just fair competition if you ask me.
Trade dress.
I think the reason is because it made itself look like the iMac. If they had made a computer that could compete with Apple without it looking like a failed iMac clone, they would have won the lawsuit instead of Apple.
Ya i agree. Apple does some stupidly shady shit. Espically when it comes to law suits. I mean have you seen what apple has been stealing and claiming they made it XD
They just moved on to copy other non-Apple stuff.
Kris Occhipinti First of all, definitely not expecting to see that name. Second of all, couldn't agree more.
Oh, I just love the way it’s BUILT IN CRT turns on like that when it boots up! Oh, it’s the most sexy thing imaginable. It even looks better than the real iMac. It’s honestly just so beautiful, the way it’s shaped, and the way looks... the CRT being built in is awesome.
We had a pair of these in my elementary school computer room. One of them screamed for death when you turned it on. This was 2004, the school computers we had were all those budget Dell Optiplex PCs with XP, and nobody knew where those eMachines came from. But they were there, and the "screamer" was the one you wanted because somebody put Doom 2 on it.
I still have my eOne. INCLUDING the mouse and keyboard. But oddly enough, my keyboard won't even work with the computer anymore. Yeah it's not the best computer in the world, but it's still an amazing piece of computer history to actually own
that's how I remember canyon.mid sounding. I've been chasing that sound for years unsuccessfully
I remember buying a mid tower case back in early 2000s and it had the exact same color scheme. Great vid as usual. Keep up the great work.
back in the day I bought a scanner from Home Shopping Network that featured the translucent plastic. I opted for a lime green but it also came in orange, blue or teal. I guess that trend died out
I literally have one of these sitting on the shelf in the hall in good working order.
My aunt bought one here in Canada, complete with the matching printer (an Epson Stylus colour printer in a matching colour scheme). Pretty sure she spent $1299 CDN for the set.
I have very fond memories of this machine, since it was better than what my family had. Used it whenever I spent time at my aunt's place as a kid. That's why I hung onto it when she was ready to move on from it. Unfortunately I don't have the matching KB/Mouse/Printer anymore, they wore out - but the machine works well and I have most of the documentation and the factory reset CD with all the drivers and such.
Was actually wondering if maybe it'd be good to upload the drivers for this thing somewhere? Can't imagine the driver CD and documentation is common.
I think you should upload them
You could make a weebly website and upload it on there. Get ad revenue for doing almost nothing.
I don’t know if you’ve seen the latest follow-up video but he’s put out an appeal to anyone who has the driver CD. It might be worth getting in touch.
You know you were bored behind the computer when you started pressing the degauss button.
so true, lol had it a good purpose when good music is playing lol haha.
For some reason I really like when a 90s PC has this ➡️0:16⬅️ type of sound when powered on.
I think it’s because my first 90s desktop PC sounded just like that.
Man I remember in middle school having to use these for our typing classes… with the good old ball mouse that was clear. Man, that was ages ago! But we did have some actual apple ones as well but only like three out of the twenty something
I found one of these in a dumpster in 2000, I used it for a while, it could record through the component port.
Must have been a high class dumpster, one on the good side of town!
Did it have child porn on it?
@@JaredConnell - I know this is far from when you commented on this video - but component and composite are the same signals, and are the same thing bro.
eOne was a knock off of the iMac
Apple later released the eMac
🤔
Rednax
It’s a funny coincidence but eMac stands for “educational MAC”
emac stands for educational mac, it was sold as school computer
ALL YALL, R/WHOSSHH IDIOTS
Yeah, it was for "education".. not to spite eMachines or anything.. 😆
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APPLE: "Hey, that's *OUR* cheap gimmick!"
Wow. My first family computer had that same sound card and quality! (It was unbranded, and had Windows 95.) Sort of takes me back. The MIDI file "Passport" is still my favorite.
A $400 rebate if you sign up for $790 worth of internet?
Just like with cellphones!
WELCOME TO INTERNET
Yep. That's the same way you get a $1500 mobile phone for 'free' XD
Not just any Internet, but DIAL-UP Internet!
which was the style at the time
A software degaus-button?? Sure this is not oddware? God I miss degaus buttons, the feeling of releasing mystical computer pressure into the ether...
I bet someone has an app to simulate a degaus button.
You ever degaus so hard the TV in the room would feel it?
huhabab lol let it build up and let it rip all at once like an EMP
While I didn't have this particular model, I did have one of their older eMachines mid-towers (which had the Celeron 366 processor and something like 64MB of RAM). It was of course the computer i Used to teach myself Windows programming using VB6. Sort of fun to go back and look at these old computers and technologies and remember that this was stuff I grew up with (actually as a kid, I grew up with a 386 and MS-DOS, and that's where I started to teach myself programming originally, with learning C and then C++).
good video! can you tell me what ever happend to Time computer brand? i used to have a couple Time laptops back in the day they was horrible computers and super heavy
I don't usually like knockoffs, but this is this is actually is kinda cool. Kinda...
xfrol Ehhh.
I came here to chew bubble gum and watch LGR videos... and I'm out of LGR videos.
I feel you mate...
Bojler eladó! :D
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Man, this would’ve been really cool back in the day! What would’ve put me off back in the day was the crappy SoundBlaster compatibility, soft CRT, and the funny speakers. The soft CRT is definitely the worst bit to me.
Focus is adjustable too, but maybe not from the software control panel.
Glad to see that you finally got the mouse for the eOne!
Your videos are too good. How do you remember all this stuff? I was there in the 90s and I built PCs and played games like mad and you always manage to come up with things that I glimpsed on shelves in Best Buy while buying RAM (they used to sell that) and totally forgot about until I see it show up here! That is REALLY entertaining. Keep it coming man!
Imagine if every company sued Apple for all the stuff they ripped off.
Still amazed Xerox didn't do that back in the day.
I used to lug our family's iMac G3 - the DVSE model - to a friends house to play Quake 3 Arena back in the early aughts. When it was all you had as a teenager, it was still amazing!
6:37 You should try to right-click on the speaker icon and click on recording devices and make sure that the "boost" (along with making sure Microphone levels were set correctly (eg. not too low)) for microphone is checked on -- a popular "fix" back in those days to get a microphone to work a lot better.
"...just listen to it trying to play Duke Nukem 3D's theme song."
*it's bad.*
*still really bad*
*it's getting worse.*
I love the humour you add in the subtitles, its why I turn them on whenever I can.
the midi seems literally like someone farting into a tin cup
People who haven’t discovered creator subtitles haven’t discovered TH-cam.
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 I didn't know about that!
For me, it crossed into "so bad it's funny" territory?
I used to sell those. I worked at Staples and had them on the shelf. So many people thought they were mac's at first glance. I would love to find one again...
I had one of these. It was actually an awesome little machine and the video capture quality was pretty good for the time.
Mom: We have iMac at home.
iMac at home:
The eOne had some pretty cool hardware. I especially loved being able to plug in my VCR and record VHS tapes to a digital format. Good times :)
How the hell did Apple manage to win in court?The machines are barely comparable.
Frogmella Slob 1) Apple releases a computer that looks different from any other. 2) eMachines releases a computer that looks a hell of a lot like Apple's, and even mentions it in their advertising. 3) Do the math
counterfit5 Evil Corporation + Frivolous Lawsuit over colored plastic = One more reason to hate intellectual property law and Apple
Pretty sound math there.
counterfit5
I wonder if the first car manufacturer to create the modern framework of car now sues literally everyone else.
I wonder if the original inventors of the concept of a computer tower sues other companies for making computer towers :D
That's not how competition works though, you fake Hedgehog.
I have a long bench in my bedroom/mancave/workspace set up with several vintage consoles and two old computers (Sega SC-3000H and Commodore 16), and I'd absolutely love to have one of these on it!
You mentioned GW2K at the end there. Would be cool to see you get your hands on a destination system with the monster monitor. 32 or 42in crt. I had one back in 1999 with that weird slot cpu. Socket A I think. I remember them hyping DVD when I got mine.
I remember seeing Apple iMacs at IKEA in the bedroom department, always wanting one as a kid every time I saw one. Little did I know the limited game library and to me alien operating system of Macs. I would have been disappointed if I got one, perhaps not with an eOne.
If only they had used an AMD K6 II CPU at 650Mhz, and fixed the sound, then the eOne would have been a real sleeper of a computer back in the day, but yeah after owning a G3 Graphite iMac I scored for $75 in 05 to play around with, and having bumped the ram up to 512MB it was still a slug monster, and glad I did not have one back in the day being a PC gamer, but after a year the CRT popped, and only things I still have from it are HDD, Keyboard, RAM and puck mouse since I'm a PC parts hoarder lol!
Good comment, but I have to say something about the "limited game library" you mentioned. I grew up using an Apple iMac G3 that my dad used for work, and there were actually a ton of weird, cool games that I grew up with as a result. The Mac had the definitive ports of games like Flashback, Alone in the Dark, MDK, Return to Zork, and Episode I Pod Racer. Not to mention the tons of oddities that have been lost to time. I could sing the praises of mid to late 90s Mac gaming all day long.
Having a Win95 computer at the time, the OS X UI looked so futuristic to me. I thought it was kind of cool when I used it in high school and college.
If anyone still has an os 8.x or os9 mac, there are sites that have archieved a lot of programs for them. ive put a lot of stuff on the g3 my friend gave me
The MacOS game library of OS9 was expansive.
So apple owns the copyright on color and translucency?
Eric Stoverink clearly not, everything used that at the time..... helll I Remember binders that were very iMac inspired.....
Eric Stoverink
Well...
They own the placement style
Yes. Yes they do :)
Trade dress
On computers? Yes they did
I worked at Circuit City at the time and sold a ton of these. The target market were people going into college. It was cool looking for the time, ran Windows (Apple wasn't on OS X yet and most people just wanted Windows at that time), it had better specs than the iMac (at least on paper), the component ports on the side meant the eOne could double as a TV which was great for college dorms with limited space. And the big CompuServe discount meant that the parents could have internet while the kid went off to college and used the built-in Ethernet port with the college-provided internet. I'm not surprised eMachines was sued. This definitely brings back memories.
Just something you overlooked/missed when talking about the spring loaded tray CD-ROM drive in the eMachines One, but the original Bondi Blue iMac G3 also had a similar spring loaded tray mechanism too. Steve Jobs had wanted to have a slot loading CD-ROM drive like the 1999 iMac would get but that technology wan’t ready in time for the original iMac and so the engineers convinced Jobs to release the original iMac as is with the promise that the 2nd gen of the iMac would get a slot loading CD-ROM drive which it did. So given that this knockoff was based on the original IMac G3, having a spring loaded drive tray makes perfect sense.
I'm not gonna lie...I had one of those growing up. The times were different and when you see a computer for less, you bought it. At least that's what my parents thought.
Was it worth it?
Got to LOVE the texting in this episode! Laughed hard of the "trying to tell how bad the music was"-subtitling! Excelent :)
The judge who ruled in favor of Apple must have been half blind or pretty stupid, because the eOne, although it resembles the iMac, it still looks quite different. The eOne is in a much boxier case, among other differences, and says "eOne" clearly instead of "iMac", not to mention it's a Wintel computer. I mean, my 2011 Honda Accord looks kind of similar to a 2011 Nissan Altima, and you don't see Nissan suing Honda (that generation Altima's body style came out one year before the same generation Accord). Just because something looks kind of similar doesn't make it a knock-off. Companies saw that the iMac was doing well, and people liked the way it looked, so they made computers that looked similar but different enough that you'd have to be an idiot to not tell them apart.
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Every car kind look the same. 4 wheels. Doors. Body. Yep
"Hmm, this translucent blue design looks intriguing. It would be a shame if one were to steal it."
These were dumped at a lot of Surplus stores in Canada. I remember going into several surplus stores, and seeing them, still in factory sealed boxes for as low as $150.00. Basically they flew off the shelves before I got one. The owner of the surplus store said that he could have bought 4- 18 wheelers full of them, but he only bought 2, and he sold out in less than a week.
I like how you got the first 19 rings in sonic, that's legit man. real legit
I remember these being advertised in Future Music as good workstations. (My 2015 gaming laptop does dozens of times what the emac could do, which still impresses me)
I miss the old desktop pc startup sounds. Hearing all the clicking and buzzing... I don’t know. There was just something I always liked about it.
Apple to legal action on what grounds ? Because it looked similar? It was clear see through blue plastic? Monitor a motherboard build in ? Surly not? How did they manage to win the legal action??
fredo51 also US company in a Japanese court. The real answer is trade dress.
I think its crazy. It was a computer built into a monitor and used the same color scheme. Such bullshit. They really shouldn't have used the same colors though.
I doubt they won. The other company gave up because they would get bankrupted in legal fees if they didn't. Standard operations for big companies. Just look at Bleem vs Sony, they had no case and just drowned the company in legal fees and forced them out of business.
Apple's been charging a premium for a logo since the beginning I see.
If I remember correctly, they always have been, even in the Apple 1 days.
Yeah...a computer kit for only $666!
It's more an Apple tax, so they can pay all those lawyers!
3,000 + for a 93 power macintosh.
Apple...lol
i had no idea these were so rare, my school at the time had a computer lab with these, and i had a few family members with them too.
They are rare because they all broke.
I just got one of these (had to fix mine up since the CRT failed to run) but my section to control the screen is all greyed out and now I'm wondering why..
Well, PowerPC had higher IPC than x86, at least at that time, so being 100MHz faster than the iMac doesn't necessarily mean much.
Zzyzx Wolfe not really that much, if any. I’d much rather had a 450 MHz P2 than a 300 MHz G3, everything else equal
A 500MHz Pentium was already much slower than a 300MHz G3, now go figure about the Celeron. The iMac would have toasted this machine in CPU speed, despite the less RAM.
Not to mention cache size. Celerons of this era were P2 cores with bad cache. (Sort of how dual core i3s are quad core i5s with bad cores.)
er, no it wasn't. Not in real world tests. I'm sorry to see that the FUD from Apple marketing of that era still endures.
Not the second series Celerons in the EOne. Mendocino Celes were actually gamer favs over their Pentium 2 counterparts because their cache, while smaller, was on-die and much faster in speed than the more expensive Pentium 2's cache mounted on the processor card.
7:19 the duke nukem theme song after being ran through google translate
7:36 damn that's one power pc!!! look at the amazing graphics on that!! Can it run crysis?
Man! Wish I could find one! I had one back when they first came out, sold it. (Should have kept it lol)
What was the grounds for suing? Using colorful translucent plastic (not created by Apple), being an all-in one (also not created by apple) or using different color plastics for the case (again, not created by apple). It really pisses me off that Apple has sued smaller companies over bullshit like this and won, these two computers look virtually nothing alike.
It's blindingly obvious that the eOne is deliberately imitating the look of the iMac (which was unique at the time). It didn't help that eMachines' own sales literature basically drew the same comparison.
When Apple sue a larger company like Samsung, they settle due to the mutual copying in both directions. True, it is a pity for smaller players.
Was the only way Apple could make money back then as no one would buy their shit apart from the sheep
you know i don't get why people say that about people who only buy apple computers i mean wouldn't we say the same about people that only buy MicroSOFT computers to ;)
Levi Cassidy
That's because for most af Apple's history, their computers were not IBM-PC compatible, It was no different than saying "Amiga Computer", plus the long tradition of being able to buy separate parts to assemble an IBM-PC computer dilluted the meaning of reffering to a computer's manufacturer
What an impressive set of awesome features packed inside a sad plasticky thing!
Awesome vid, Clint! Thanks!
Thank you!
Your name is Clint?
It's a Pixel THING I myc. B
LGR, you recorded the Windows 98 in February 12, 2018.
Honestly the recording of Canyon.MID really wasn’t that bad to me. I’ve heard way worse.
Or even Duke Nukem 3D theme but half the notes are missing (7:19)
I remember when in the school theres one of those computers in the computers room, damn
Apple sued somebody? Outrageous!
What's a computer?
Honestly they were totally justified
ultimatebman no they werent
They didn't sue Samsung though, or Android, or Google.
+Subtle Demise the fact that they won in 2 separate courts in 2 separate countries shows you're wrong. Japan doesn't side against local companies unless they really fuck up.
I remember getting one of these at CC and set up for my cousin, didn't know they were only sold for a few months
Y'know, out of the family computers we had (and that I eventually inherited), an old AMD Athlon eMachines tower ended up lasting the longest. The casing and presentation were definitely cheap, but it honestly had the longest time of life of any of the computers we had; it was great to have as an extra tower to LAN-play Diablo 2 and even serving as a dedicated Stepmania tower for a while.
I really never had an issue with anything eMachines and, had I known these existed, would likely have wanted one of those eOnes if my family had money at the time they were out because why not have a computer in my room as a kid that could double as a TV for my Playstation 1?