Brutally Honest Review | Neural DSP Archetype: Cory Wong
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2020
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In this video I give my opinion on the Archetype: Cory Wong plugin including some preset tones.
WARNING: this is an honest review. If I dislike something, then I say it :)
Hope you like!
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Sean
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Wow....the dynamics and tone of the Rabea 4th position was killer. I could spend an hour with a nice strat and that sound. I also don't usually ever use presets, other than checking em out one time.
That preset is just so inspiring to play - an absolute stand out in my opinion. I bet it would sound beautiful with a strat!
@@SeanBennettGuitar I have a fender player strat, and that preset sounds PHENOMENAL. May have sold be on the entire plug in tbh. I should mention I’ve only tried the trial and haven’t bought any plug ins before but tried many.
@@user-of9ut1hd9q I need to get myself a guitar with single coils! Long overdue 😅 Glad you like the preset man; bet it sounds amazing on a strat!
Thank you for this...more honest reviews like this are needed.
Absolutely! Nothing but transparency here! 🤘🏻
Thank you for that super honest review! :)
My pleasure! 👍🏻
everything i needed to hear, thank you!!
My pleasure 😊 more will be on the way soon!
love your honesty. please keep it up
Thanks! Lots of people watching my videos hate the honesty 🤣
Cool review! Bro.👍👍
Thanks man! 👍🏻
The gardening preset is so beautiful! Great plugin along with the other Neural DSP´s :D
Neural DSP have really changed the game 👍🏻
Fourth position, my fav preset!
Mine too! It’s rare for me to be so inspired with a sound straight out the box 🎸🔥
Terrific demo. Demoing now and subed
Thanks so much! Great to have you on board 😊
Great review, thank you very much!! By the way, you CAN use the Wah with a Midi expression pedal, or after you record something you can use automation to control the Wah pedal to your taste.
Thanks for the kind words! I’m sure the wah is really good with an expression pedal. Maybe I was just put off by the presets too much 😂
That Rabea 4th position sounds is lovely, just the sound i'm looking for. I'd buy it just for that.
Yeah it was inspiring to play! Vibes for days on that preset. Probably one of the nicest presets to play on I’ve experienced in a plug-in 👍🏻🎸
Thanks for the honest review mate! How do you like the PGM301? Always fancied one
No problem 😊 been playing that PGM301 to death since I bought it when I was 17/18 years old. Being honest, I’ve played it that much I find it difficult to be objective about it compared to other guitars. It has quite a flat frequency response, regarding the pickups, and is very comfortable to play. It’s an absolute workhorse. I’m not a huge fan of the split coil sounds, but for rock, I just can’t argue with the bridge pickup tones. Tuning stays very stable and the neck is the perfect shape for my tastes 👍🏻 would never see a reason to sell it!
@@SeanBennettGuitar lovely, they’re much harder to find now too. I remember you could reliably get them for about £1000 or less 8 years ago! Sounds great, glad it’s in the hands of someone enjoying it. I regret selling my FRM100 as a student!
@@OCNmeticadpa I bough mine 2nd hand (mint condition - hardly played and only bought by the original owner a couple of weeks prior) for £400 I think which was an absolute bargain! Roughly half the RRP at the time 😊. I did look at purchasing a fireman back in the day. How did you find it? Any good?
@@SeanBennettGuitar couldn’t be more jealous, worth easily 4x that now I bet! And will surely only go up? I loved the fireman, sounded so good and the neck was really comfy. The guitar itself was oddly comfortable too for something so unconventionally shaped. If they made one with SS frets I would consider getting one again as a next guitar (though my current hardtail prestige is a dream to play).
I think the factory presets are much nicer than the artist presets if you haven't tried them. I found the choice of artists a bit strange for this one but I guess it makes sense from a marketing standpoint. Wider reach. This plugin has been a real game-changer for me though. Can finally plug straight in and get nice warm sounds. I have a vid on my channel where I'm using it with a tele. Really happy with the tone.
Sweet man I will have to check out your vid! To be honest I can’t remember if I checked out the factory presets or not but it’s a great little plug-in! I’m debating going full on Neural DSP rather than analogue gear 😅 gone are the days of Guitar Rig 5 tones 😂
Their artist presets don't make sense to me. The Soldano SLO-100 artist presets are like 90% djent dudes. Same with the Gojira one.
Hey! Great review. I'm using Amplitube 4 now, but I'm not so happy with the clean tones. Do you think this beats Amplitube? I'm playing through a Babyface Pro FS.
Hey! Thanks 😊 Definitely better than older software such as Amplitube. I know how you feel as I used to use Guitar Rig 5 and had the same issues. This plugin feels like a real clean amp.
@@SeanBennettGuitar Cool! I will get the trial soon. It would be fun if somebody did a comparison between Universal Audios amp sims and this.
Been meaning to check out the Universal Amp sims actually! Thanks for reminding me 😂 will see what I can do 👍🏻
@@SeanBennettGuitar I just bought it after the trial ended today, this plugin has the clean tones I've been looking for. I think this is the future, and real amps will be obsolete in ten years or so. As a bedroom producer this is great, now I don't really need to buy all the expensive gear. Have a great start to 2021!
@@es5679 Great to hear man! It’s super convenient as a set up too 😊 All the best for this New Year 👍🏻💥
I'm using a 2010 MacBook Pro with Propellerheads Reason DAW and Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen audio interface, with the sampling on high, and I'm not getting the same sampling crackle problems as you, and the latency is fine. You tried adjusting the buffer size in your DAW right?
Yeah I tried adjusting the buffer in Logic Pro X but it still didn’t like it. I think the sampling issue was slightly worse during recording than playing if I remember correct. It’s probably something I’m doing rather than the plug-in but it would still be awesome they were less CPU heavy in the future 😊
@@SeanBennettGuitar sure, fair enough :)
Good review. Keep in mind, the standalone can sound even better and have less issues than a plug-in. I'm not sure why your sample rate is acting up- I don't have those issues but I am using a standalone version. It's probably an issue with the other software. I just select 44.1kHz across the board and don't have any issues. I've tried many plug-ins and this is my hands-down favorite followed by Plini and then Molly.
IMO Neural is currently the leader overall. I do however wish they added more effects and a few of the features that others offer, specifically...
1. They desperately need to ADD A LOOPER
2. List of pre-made PATCHES THAT SOUND LIKE WELL KNOWN, POPULAR TUNES.
3. Improve how the list of patches is accessed. There should be different list views e.g., have it broken out by genre and make it a 1 or 2 click process. At least you can save User patches to custom folders. Some other brands make it much easier (quicker) to access the patches by genre. The actual main screens and graphics however look amazing- very clean and simplistic and sharp.
5. I wish it was one single plug-in that had all their tones. You would literally have to buy 10 unique plug-in collections (well over $1,000) to cover the full tonal spectrum. Luckily, I have found about 3 of the PI's, with some tweaking will get you close to all the sounds.
6. I would like to change the background on some too- some are too bright which is less relaxing playing at night in a dark room- maybe offer background themes. Also, sometimes the effects appear greyed out (and no change in sound when selected.) Any have any thoughts? Do certain, e.g., custom patches override editing?
7. The cabinet mic'ing needs to save per cabinet- not automatically carry over all the same mics to all cabinets. This mostly defeats the purpose if I want to switch between amps during different parts of a song.
Again, the current product is excellent where it matters most (guitar tones.) It will simply be that much better if they just have to improve a few things but I imagine they will given time and the competition. Saving and accessing a custom patch is a very easy and simple process so kudos to the development team for that.
I think Neural did a great job with this plug-in overall. I would definitely use it for clean tones if I didn’t have an amp. To be honest I actually love the overdrives in here too!
I think people dislike this video because I’m complaining about the sample rate, but it would be nice if these plugins did take less processing power at some point.
I agree with your choice of Neural amp sims. I also prefer the Plini and Nolly to the others. I like the Plini for warm lead tones and the Nolly for chordal work. I do also like the Fortin NTS but I wish Neural would include a tuner to their older plug-ins!
You’ve highlighted some really good points. I know what you mean about the background being too bright on some of them. I don’t like that when I press the spacebar on my laptop the amps switch off. This gets annoying inside Logic Pro X.
I noticed I got more dislikes for this video compared to my other videos, but this is what you pay for when being honest and not bigging everything up for companies 😂 people are so used to being sold to.
Thanks for the comment man 👍🏻
@@SeanBennettGuitar Agreed- been playing the Nolly collection lately and it might be my new favorite. I can get tones that are mostly similar to Plini and Cory Wong and the benefit of better distortion tones. I do wish they included a looper and the Shimmer (and 2-3 other high end) effects. 2-3 collection bundles for $100 would also be nice. Other plug-ins offer many more tones all-in-one solutions...though they don't quite sound like the Neural plug-ins (yet.)
@@MOAB-UT 1 question who is molly?
@@prashuryagoswami6122 Molly is the name of a Neural DSP plug-in (vst.) Technically it's called Archetype: Molly. They also offer Archetype: Plini Fortin, Cory Wong and several others. Each flavor brings a unique sound to the table. In case you are not familiar, VST (virtual studio technology) is software plug-in's that strive to emulate (in this case) guitar hardware e.g., effects, reverbs, delays, distortion, cabinet (IR's), etc. IMO Neural does an incredible job at making it sound incredible- not just the sound but the feel. They are one of, if not the best. That said,, there is always room for improvements but they likely will improve even more over time with new releases and patches. The software goes on your computer. You plug your guitar into an interface and connect that via USB. Neural has a very modern, clean look. You see a virtual amp- and all the knobs are functional! You can also adjust the mic's and cabinets. In their case, less is definitely more.
Neural DSP is defintitely CPU hungry, if you use High Oversampling mode. I get crackling noise all the time, even at 44100 hz sample rate.
An Auto Wah or Touch Wah is not a "lesser" version of a "real" Wah. It's a completely different effect.
I actually like Auto Wah generally speaking. Just not with those presets I played through in the video. That said, this was a quick run through of the plug-in and I’m sure the Auto Wah would have sounded decent with some tweaking.
I agree! Tom Misch uses touch wah a lot, and I kind of like that function better, at least for such neo-soul runs. It has a lot of soul
Where does the hum coming from right before the start? Is that baked in?
Must have been from the plug-in. From what I remember some of the presets could be quite noisy in the background. There is a built in noise gate though!
You didn't mention that you can hook up a MIDI compatible expression pedal if you don't want to use the auto wah. Also, you didn't try any of the sensitivity settings on the auto wah, and it would have helped because you never got it fully open at that sensitivity.
Yeah I jumped over the wah in the video. I do think it's really cool that a wah is included - just didn't have an expression pedal at the location I was recording in to properly try it. The review wasn't meant to be super in depth anyhow - just a quick look through of the main aspects of the plugin that I was interested in.
@@SeanBennettGuitar Forgot to mention, enjoyed your playing!
@@EricMarinko Thank you man 👍🏻 thanks for checking out the video 😊
Just noticed (9 months later 🤣) that I was hating on auto-wah in this video. Not sure where that came from as I actually do like auto-wah in general haha!
"im so brutally honest. I say whats on my mind. Im so unique. other youtubers dont do this. literally im the only one. I SAY WHATS ON MY MIND. JUST ME". This video is the equivalent of the "you'll never find another girl like me" meme
I hope whatever has hurt you to make you feel the need to lash out at others on the internet gets sorted. Genuinely. And don’t worry, your comment didn’t offend me or get to me whatsoever - not one bit. Wishing you all the best for the future.
@@SeanBennettGuitar poking a little fun at a cliched as shit review video template isn't lashing out. The playing was nice, the tones were nice. I just find it a little amusing how you hear these same exact lines from so many youtubers and they're always like "I'm definitely one of the few that will give it to you straight". Like come on guys....
“chube aumps”
The “proper” British English pronunciation 🇬🇧👍🏻
The wah actually works really great if you spend more than 10 seconds with it??? 🙄
Starts at 3:10
I bought the Wong and the Darkglass Ultra bass plugin (20% off first time customer if you buy 2). I think they are great. I was leery when I downloaded the Ultra for the 14 day trial because Neural DSP seems to lean to metal high gainy stuff - but once I learned how to use it I was impressed - so I didn't even try out the Wong for the trial. I'm very happy with it. Some of the user reviews have been pretty critical of it but I think they're loonies. Clean tone is pretty much the hardest thing to get with virtual guitar stuff - this is the best I've heard by far- sounds awesome with a 90's USA Telecaster with Lace Sensors. Does it have problems? Sure. But I don't play live gigs and spend 90% of the time in Logic and 10% stand alone (the real bug is that the stand alone sounds *better*, more full: You have to use the plugin as a Bus, change volume and some graphic EQing in the Logic to get your user presets to match)
I paid $212 US dollars for the Wong and the Darkglass Ultra total. No brainer - that's less than a good effects pedal and the pair covers bass and guitar. I'd say 100% buy it if you have the money. Changed my bass and guitar recordings with Logic significantly - I'm Not a pro though.
The clean tone on the Wong really is great 👍🏻 I think it’s a great plugin overall. If I was more clean orientated would definitely buy it. I actually really like the overdrives in the plug-in too 😊
Darkglass is amazing, I've started combining it with my cort C5 DI, and a track amped in helix, so 3 in total and it just sounds gnarly.
u need more ram bud
Most probably!
Curious how much would be needed; I run into the same issues on my desktop and it has 16gigs of ram.
@@rowdyruu8275 64gb is the minimum for these types of VST’s
64 gigs of ram? Highly doubt that for a simple plug in. That doesnt sound right if Im able to run games, stream, and listen to music all the the same time.
Edit: their site says minimum 8 gigs of ram. Makes no sense why I have this issue.
@@rowdyruu8275 well that’s up to u bud