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Did you know that the Sin Of Lust in Hazbin Hotel used to be called Lollygag?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2024
- Did you know this in hazbin hotel?
In both hazbin hotel and helluva boss we’re introduced to the seven deadly sins who each rule a specific ring in hell.
All of these concepts originated from vivzie’s early project zoophobia.
In helluva boss we know that the sin of lust is asmodeus. However in Zoophobia the sin of lust was a girl and she was called lollygag and looked completely different. Lolly Gag is known to be the creator of all succubi/incubi. She’s asexual and loves video games, selfies and pirates. There’s an image of her with angel dust that shows that they were best friends.
My theory is that some of lollygag’s traits were recycled and implemented into vaggie. Vaggie is typically seen on the pirate ship of the hazbin hotel,she carries a weapon around and she has an x on one eye. These are all the defining features of lollygag. As unfortunate that it is that she was scrapped, i’m glad that some of her design elements lived on in hazbin hotel, and i think asmodeus is a worthy replacement as the sin of lust.
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Ozzie as a replacement for the Sin of Lust? Definitely worth it.☺️💕
Did you know Ntsg is leaking stuff again, he somehow got the first two episodes and is leaking clips of them!
Does anyone else get leaked music videos in their fyp as well?
@@user-tc3uk4kd3l I did, and they all have ntsg on the screen of the video
@@Joseph_R._Azevedo We can all agree that’s the most hated creator in the fandom
I just love how Viv always recycle her ideas and little details shows how much work goes into Hazbin.
??? this is a pretty common thing, if some characters don't work out save some of their traits for another character. The creator of spy family literally used another character from his other comics, aged her down and made her into Anya
@@m3ttalc874ok? It's not a competition. They were just saying it's cool.
@@dennysaur5497 shit sorry I misread, I thought they were saying how little detail and work goes into it 😅 sorry
Work? If anything it shows shes a lazy hack
Like queen bee is a furry because she used one of his characters of his furry era (2014-2017) to his design
We got Asmodues as a replacement of the Sin of Lust but we got remnants in Vaggie. A win-win in my eyes
Asmodeus is actually one of my fav characters 😭
i think more remnants are in cherry bomb than anything based solely off the info in the short
@@saix_unicorn *slow head turn*
@@saix_unicornSAMEEEEEE
You can say that again for Vaggie’s 1 eye! 😂
To my knowledge, there's actual mythology around the demon Asmodeus being the avatar of the sin of lust, which is probably part of the reason for the change
Yes in demonology and the occult Asmodeus is the sin of lust
Buddy, you just got your 100th like!
Yeah each of the 7 princes of hell in hazbin/helluva are based on actual demonology
Asmodeus vs Valentino, who has more lust?
@@KruegelKolaOzzie.
I would LOVE it if Angel Dust just casually dropped Lolly Gags name. She doesn’t need to be an official character but is somewhere in the universe
Even better, I would nickname to make the fans guess if he's actually talking about lolly gag.
“She’s asexual, loves video games and pirates” so she’s just me, got it.
💜🤍🖤
Im too Asexual , Demisexual
Same here 😂
girl
Same
Same 😂
I'm so glad we ended up getting Asmodeus.
Same
Yeah, lollygag sounds like a terrible idea. How do you represent lust while being asexual I do get that you can lust for non-sexual things, but like all subverting that does is make it harder to make the character represent lust because you’d have to make the character frequently lust for things that have nothing to do with sex
@@Maxinestabile it think vivzi made her asexual because traditionally the other sins are portrayed by people indulging in them while lust is portrayed as a women being indulged by other people ( eg : escort s don't need to have desire themselves but are lusted upon)
Im terriable at explaining but money ain't greedy cause its the thing thats supposed be desired so same goes for lust/s*x i guess? Lolygag would already have access to s*x anytime so she wouldn't nessarly desire it
I think she would use other peoples lust to manipulate them but really does not feel anything towards them & only sees what she can gain from them
Its a different take from the norm i it makes sense in my head
@@Its_Just_I I get what you’re saying, but I think the sins should represent the sin that they represent. I think lollygag should be lustful because she is the sin that represents lust. Plus it does get kind of annoying after a while of seeing multiple stories where they just tell you this person doesn’t like to indulge in sex because I’ve seen that story like 50 different times and I’ve never seen it subverted where it’s actually a person that likes to indulge in sex and isn’t doing so to cover up some sort of darker feeling, or for some sort of darker desire
@@Maxinestabile If the Sins "should represent the sin that they represent," I don't think Ozzy is necessarily the best representation of Lust, either. I mean, the literal only time he espouses pure, unbridled Lust is at his nightclub, which is literally a place for Hell's denizens to have casual public sex if they wish...because they _want_ to, and are typically two consenting adults. Sure, he heckles Moxxie pretty brutally for singing a soppy, absurd little love song, but that's because that just doesn't have a place there, and is dragging down the vibe. He doesn't want to turn his clientele off.
Every other time? We see him being intensely cuddly with Fizz, incredibly loving and gentle, always reminding him that things need to be his _choice,_ not because of his fans, or Mammon, or whatever. We see him loudly espousing the need for consent, and how he doesn't do things like love potions, because artificial want/desire is wrong and antithetical to his views on Lust: that it's about the journey and getting there, not about just diving straight in and satisfying one's carnal desires. That's not a guy talking about Lust, that's a guy talking about passion, in ways that are much closer to love than Lust. This is a guy who clearly understands when "No means _no."_ This is a guy who actively _hates_ being forced into a position to make robot sex-toys of the man he loves and cares about, rather than just caring about spreading Lust.
Asmodeus might be a horny dude, as seen when he's watching Fizzarolli's performance at Mammon's big show and is clearly trying to hide his reaction as he blushes and ducks behind the curtains. But what we see isn't a guy who's all about nothing but Lust in everything he does, nowhere near on the level of Mammon's 24/7 "gimme, gimme, gimme" levels of Avarice, or Beelzebub's equally always-on "just keep makin' me that mf'in' honey!" vibe of Gluttony, as she serves up endless quantities of sugar, booze, and even Belphagor's drugs when she can get them.
“She’s asexual-“
I love her already :D 🖤🩶🤍💜
I definitely prefer Asmodeus as the Sin of Lust in Helluva Boss, I mean come on he's awesome! I especially love his and Fizzarolli's relationship, it's so cute! I just didn't know Lollygag existed as a character.😍😮
I am mostly glad becayse making a sin of lust asexual is pretty much a mockery of the asexual community
Asexual sin of Lust
Interesting
I agree
I don’t know about y’all but I LOVE Asmodeus and I think he is a much better depiction of the sin of lust
It seems wrong for them to be asexual
Son of Lust
*Sin
Oh shit it's like looking in a mirror
@@PinkFeathersLMAOAO
Interesting to have the sin of lust be asexual. That would have been a pretty cool topic to be explored if we got her in the full series.
Edit: Why is this comment getting so much attention??
Yes
As if someone didn't know
We Asexuals also have libido and sexual atraction
We too can fantasize and masturbate
Asexual sin of Lust would be Interesting
I don’t really understand that tho cause I thought ace meant not having sexual attraction towards anyone so I don’t think it works unless it’s supposed to be ironic
@@Pongocity.I think the way it would’ve worked is that Lust isn’t necessarily a sexual desire, although it’s most commonly used in that context. Lust in its broadest term is just a strong desire, so you can have a lust for knowledge, lust for power, etc.
@@giantwarchicken1577 yeah but this vivziepop we’re talking about so obviously she was gonna go the sex route lol. But you bring up a good point.
@@giantwarchicken1577 That would actually be an interesting concept
I actually really like the concept of the sin of lust being Asexual, it’s such a juxtaposition to…everything. Also “lollygag” is a fantastic name for a sex demon
Yeah
Interesting
For me as a Ace
Same. I think the romantic aspects of lust are very underexplored in this sort of a context. So many people are fixated on sexual attraction as some sort of inherently more toxic and pernicious force than romantic attraction and I don't like that, because romantic attraction and extreme romance-focused compulsions can get just as crazy and destructive. The overall conflation of sex and romance by society masks where romantic attraction is a more destructive player than sexual attraction, and a romance-focused Lust character could be useful in unpacking that.
@sinfulAesthetics Servamp plays a little bit with that. The Servamp of Lust has a lot of anxiety/insecurity with his demon but part of the initial arc is exploring further past the sexual aspects of lust and that love is just as much a part of what he represents
So it's not the DESTRUCTIVE aspects of love/lust but it's another sort of exploration of another side of the "sin"
well i mean lust don’t necessarily have to mean sex: like blood lust
@@sinfulAestheticsThat makes zero sense. Romance has nothing to do with lust. Lust is literally about *sexual* attraction. That would be like there being a God of gay men who was straight and you saying "it's so interesting looking into the underdeveloped heterosexuality of this homosexual God" You do not need any romance at all to have lust that is the entire point.
Toxic romantic obsession is a completely different thing to lust. But even then toxic romantic obsession and fixation is constantly explored in media. I mean jfc that's what the entire show "You" is about.
Ngl I would’ve rlly liked to see zoophobia as a full series
She had full fledged ped0philia in it, and she shipped it. You would NOT want to see Zoophobia trust me.
Same
glad they gave alastor the ace instead of just discarding it altogethor
And the smile!
Iirc alastor is actually one of vivs oldest creations
@@A-Microwave ik, but from what i've seen he wasn't always asexual
Wonder what the rest of the Sins will look like and will they have some traits from earlier characters
Asmodeus is all the embodiment of lust and one of the 7 prince of hell according too old scripts
Yes in Paradise Lost (which is post printing press so old but not ancient.)
Think Asmodeus is a pretty good replacement.
I miss the zoophobia comic, i remember finding viv from the die young animation as a kid and becoming obsessed with her work since then. Its good to see the work recycled and the occasional reference to those works tho
me and lollygag would be REALLY best friends because i also like pirates
Nah bro if she loved videogames and pirates then i'm sad she got replaced 🎮⛵
I’m sorry but that picture of Vaggie and Charlie doing that one titanic scene is just adorable.
Yeah
The idea of the embodiment of lust being asexual is such an interesting concept. Like it sounds completely contradictory but done right it could make for a very unique character, plus you could get a lot of comedy out of that situation.
Right
Interesting
Im Ace
I love how Husk was giving Angel a don’t you dare look while he smirked
Lollygag: ☺️
Loli gag: 💀💀💀
She seemed like she would have been a very fun character. However I feel like lollygag being the sin of lust shouldn't match very well. There doesn't seem to be anything lustful about her. Not the way she dresses or presents herself or anything like that. Also with a name like lollygag, you'd think she'd be better as the sin of sloth. 🤔
Who knows
it think vivzi made her asexual because traditionally the other sins are portrayed by people indulging in them while lust is portrayed as a women being indulged by other people ( eg : escort s don't need to have desire themselves but are lusted upon)
Im terriable at explaining but money ain't greedy cause its the thing thats supposed be desired so same goes for lust/s*x i guess? Lolygag would already have access to s*x anytime so she wouldn't nessarly desire it
It would honestly work
*Awesome! :D Another precursor character in Vivziepop 's old archives: first Tyco , who was the original boyfriend to Angel Dust, but was scrapped and recycled some of his elements into the villain, Valentino and now we got a female character named Lollygag ,who was the original entity of Lust before she was scrapped, replaced by Asmodeus, and recycled some of her elements to Vaggie, Charlie Morningstar 's beloved, loyal, benign lesbian sinner-demon girlfriend!* ;D *'m curious what other scrapped characters has in Vivziepop 's art book!* 🎨
I love the idea of the sin of lust being asexual. I thought about mortal sins characters few years ago and also thought the Lust should be asexual.
Because when people do not border their sexual wishes and stuff, they get to it amd want more and more, that, in 100+ years will just become grey and not ineteresting anymore. So, if immortal character was not asexual in the begining, they will bevome one eventually
I HATE IT
ite like a mockery of asexuality.
Asexuals wouldnt have lust as you most likely need sexual attraction to have lust, especially since lust is a sin due to you commiting crimes and negative stuff due to loving sex so much.
Lust and asexuality dont go together, lust isnt just wantint or loving sex, lust requires sexual attraction.
well that's operating on how a mortal mind would react to longevity. sure, if a regular person were to live for thousands and thousands of years their desires might become null, but there's no reason that a higher being such as a demigod or powerful demon should function based on our nature. Perhaps they can live as long as they want and still retain their passion and desire for ages, or maybe they only live for so long and are able to prosper in their current states *because* they consistently feed their own desires, and that explanation kind of also falls in line with what we see from Bee too.
We Asexuals also have libido
We are horny too and sleeps with others
Interesting
Disagree. Sex brings pleasure so unless you're asexual from the start it's unlikely you wouldn't want sex after some time. Also,he's supposed to EMBODY the sin of lust,he's more than just a lustful immortal
Conveying lust through an asexual would be really tough, especially trying to get people who don’t fully understand asexuality and lust itself. I’m as asexual as they come and trying to explain that alone to some people is like trying to hammer a nail with a feather. When most people think of list they think more of hyper sexuality which we get with Ozzie and Fizz constantly being flirty and whatnot whenever they think they have a moment alone. Even they themselves depict that when Ozzie’s assistant comes in and they quickly act as if they were having a quick fuck. I would really like to see how they’d show asexuality in hell and am excited for Alistor as a confirmed asexual
Im too Ace
Hey! No lollygagging around! 😂😂😂😂
😂😂🤣🤣
Seven deadly sins.
*7DS OPENING STARTS PLAYING..*
Lollygag: "YOU TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME!"
Vaggie: "I don't even know who you are..."
Tbf with Ozzie, he states his vision of lust is at its peak when both parties are conesting towards anything iirc
How can be princess of lust asexual? That like sais prince of greed os broke, or prince of pride is humble man
lust issn't inherently sexual, you can lust after all kinds of things
@@newrealitywhodis Well yes but its still dump when She literaly create sex-demons
@@BasiliscBaz yeah fair point
@@BasiliscBazNot Dump
@@polishalastor142 ok, but still wierd thing
I think it's funny that the sin of lust was originally gonna be asexual
Interesting Yes
I dont find it as funny as a mockery
But igs fine
the intense wave of nostalgia i get every time zoophobia is mentioned- man i miss that comic. it was amazing. but im glad viv made the choice she felt best with, she was under too much pressure between two WIP projects and planning helluva boss, plus all her other commitments.
She would still be a sick character.
People are saying that lust being asexual doesn’t make sense, but it kind of does. Like a drug dealer who doesn’t do drugs. She just causes lust, doesn’t take part in it
It would maybe make sense if she’s just a succubus and isn't the literal symbolism of the sin of lust- you know- lust being known for sexual depravity, sa, adultery, objectification, and other sexual-related stuff...
@happysocialmoth1197, Lust can just mean a strong desire.
Yes, sexual desire is the most well-known example, but you can also lust after knowledge, or power, etc.
@@happysocialmoth1197 traditionally the other sins are characterised by a person partaking in them while lust is portrayed by a women being lusted upon (its like how people lust on escorts but the escort doesn't have to feel the same way)
@@r-171The deadly sin of lust is strictly the sexual one
I"m sure vivzie thought making her ace was a twist but I saw an asexual flirt off happen with my two eyes
i bet if you go 'round his house, you can find a bunch of lego pieces.
Garden of banban music.
“She was asexual.”
And the first ruler of Wrath was a pacifist
OMG THX FOR ALL THE LIIIIIKES!!
Oh yeah 😂😂🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Finally! This guy gets it.
Also the first King of greed was the most generous person you'll ever met. (/J)
@@mossyboii-.- and the king of gluttony is calorie counting vegan
Is nobody gonna talk about how she was gonna be the SIN OF LUST and is ASEXUAL? Is nobody gonna talk about that?
Asmodeus, despite being the sin of lust, wants a sentimental and romantic relationship with Fizz.
It shows that the fact that despite supposedly being against romantic relationships, he has a very nice relationship with fizzarolli would be hypocritical.
(Like a homophobe who dates a person of the same gender)
Also Lollygag created Succubus
As a Asexual
I think
Some Asexual are horny, have a libido
And sleeps with others
Sin of Lust Being Ace make sense
@@PERSONA4GOLDENNthat doesn't clash with lust
@@PERSONA4GOLDENNthat doesn’t clash with wanting to have a sexual relationship though-
Ozzy is so sweet he deserves all the love he gets from Fizz, he’s in my top ten characters for sure
“Do froggy little flips”- sin of lust
Lollygag: Sin of lust; Asexual
... yeah, that makes complete sense
Maybe she just makes those around her more lustful with some sort of passive ability
I can’t be the only one who was bothered by the fact that he called Lucifer one of the Deadly Sins, right?
He is, though?
He represents the Sin of Pride, & is part of them.
He is one of the deadly sins..he's the sin of pride how do you not know this?
I can’t be the only one who is bothered by the fact that you don’t even know the lore.
@@TheOnceAustralian lmao i am
Nien's moves are so smooth she ate
Love it when a “lustful” character is on the ace spectrum, gotta be one of my favourite genders
I hate it in a way.
I hate the idea of a lust demon (lust IS sexual attraction so asexuals cannot be lustful, lust and wanting or likint sex is completely different) being asexual as its almost like mocking us.
I am a sex favorable asexual, i do like sex but Lust is based around sexual attraction and originally a harmful one that hurts those around (like being lustful isnt a sin unless you hurt others or yourself because of it, same with anh other sin)
You can be "lustful" ig but you cant be littearly lust like the embodiment of it would be.
But that's impossible. By definition, an asexual can't be lustful,not truly
@@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 people need to understand being lustful isnt the same as simply wanting or even desiring sex.
The difference is lust is extreme and requires sexual attraction, while just desiring sex in a non lustful way isnt extreme and doesnt require sexual attraction.
@@AdaminTranzit I think we agree but I'm gonna argue anyway because I'm be asshole like that. Lust is extreme sexual desire. If you don't have sexual desire,you can't be lustful.
@@AdaminTranzit "I do like sex but I'm not lustful" You're a horny ace. It's okay. There is no crime in admitting it. Most aces lust. I knew one who wanted to bang a porsche.
The sin if lust is asexual? How tf
Well the demon of gluttony barely indulges in her partys she just gets everyone else too.
On the one hand, lust in the original biblical texts is not just sexual desire, but a general want for things you are forbidden from. Lust for knowledge, lust for power, lust for violence, etc. and on the other hand, I guess the lords didn't CHOOSE o be in their position, so it's not always going to be a perfect match.
"Sin of Lust"
"Asexual"
Something's Wrong, i can feel it.
THE Garten of banban ost caught me Unprepared💀
FOR REAL
Im glad vivzie actually used accurate demons for each sin, asmodeus is LITERALLY the king of hell and lust.
Same
The king of hell is Lucifer, Asmodeus is a king.
Wait so do we know all of the 7 Deadly Sins yet and what they look like?
Not all of them, we all know what Lucifer, Beelzebub, Asmodeus and Mammon look like, but we’ve haven’t seen Satan, Belphegor and Leviathan
@@TheOnceAustralian Oh ok, thank you!
Sin of Lust being asexual is such an amazing idea. We need more asexual representation to show people that ace people are not "innocent" and "sex repulsed" (by sex repulsed I mean not being able to talk or joke about sex at all including stupid dick jokes) it's such a big spectrum and sin of Lust ABSOLUTELY could be ace. I still meet people who say "i thought you were ace???" when i make some silly sex joke
People think That Ace dont Want sex
Indeed! The infantilization of ace people and lack of understanding of them as their own unique individuals with a full range of adult experiences and their own individual ways of relating to sex and romance in all sorts of areas of the asexual spectrum is a huge problem, and it's always bothered me how people always conflate Lust with sex/sexual attraction and see sexuality as automatically being more sinful and destructive than romance. As someone who has experienced limerance, overwhelming amounts of romantic attraction (or something adjacent to it), idealization of romance/true love, or compulsions around romantic ideals and rituals can be SO fucking crazy and destructive, and I think this aspect of things is SO underexplored within the concept of Lust. I guess as a society our conflation of sex and romance just tends to mask this because most people experience both of those attractions in parallel to some degree, and puritan religious values see sexual attraction as "The Real Problem" behind the toxic stuff when that's actually not necessarily always the case.
I think categorizing destructively strong romantic attraction or limerance as somehow virtuous or neutral while categorizing the equivalent amount of sexual attraction as sinful is kinda biased. I prefer a more expansive idea of what Lust is because personally that makes more sense and is not as molded by puritan religious values and it personally helped me understand my own experiences better. My view is that Lust is all about idealization, dehumanization, and sexual or romantic objectification of others in service of selfish or self-destructive compulsive goals that don't actually solve your core problems/insecurities. In my opinion, there are promiscuous, extremely kinky, and ethically polyamorous allosexual (or sex-favorable ace) people who are WAY LESS lustful than some lovebomby narcissists or very chaste but romance-obsessed people who experience destructive limerant fixations where they want a limerant object they view through a very idealized, dehumanizing lens to fulfill them in ways that are unfair or humanly impossible.
An asexual Lust character (or at the very least a romance-focused character) could be very useful in unpacking this.
I meam there are still asexual people who genuinely sex repulsed.
I'm one such person.
I also don't really care for sex jokes, I think they're all unfunny.
I like to think that Lolygag is following the drug-dealers motto "don't get addicted to your own goods".
I'm a weird case in that i am very much sex repulsed ( I think swapping bodily fluids should disqualify you from ever buying hand sanitizer again if there is ever a shortage). and also too smart to put my self esteem in the hands of another human being based on how happy i make them, (been burned before in entirely non-sexual relationships).
But at the same time, in certain friend groups will still crack sex jokes if i think others will find it funny. When i was a kid, i was entirely innocent because i didn't have a tv or a lot of friends, so when i unknowingly said things that were innuendos, other kids made fun of me for it. I crack the sex jokes first now to make sure I'm not the but of it later.
I just avoid that stuff when I'm alone. Genitalia are not as pretty as faces to me. I think people look more beautiful with clothes on. I feel there should be more activities that everyone can enjoy together without having to worry about age groups or familiarity or children or how people look at them naked.
That's why I love gaming.
Having the demon of Lust be asex and a total nerd resonates with me.
And there are some of us that are sex repulsed, but still kinky weirdos lol Or that enjoy sex as a concept in media, but aren't interested in it in real life (similar to how fighting dragons sounds cool in a story, but is NOT something I would want to do irl).
It's me. I'm describing me lol Completely sex repulsed, but have a guttural sense of humor, and a deep fascination with kink culture.
Lust itself can also convey more than just sexual lust, so there's really a lot of different ways you can take a lust themed character!
the sin of lust being asexual is actually so great omg
The editing is fire
Tbf, it doesn't make much sense to me that someone who is asexual ruled lust and created succubi and incubi. Asmodeus is the best choice
Actually I think it makes perfect sense. In my mind lust is the act of want, having sex isn't lust but the pull, urge, and the feeling of want is lust. She wants to be lusted after, constantly flirting and then pulling away people to build up the want. she basically brings the desire to the forefront so their inhibition weaknes. it much easier for the Incubus and succubus come in to "finish the job". They feed on the act and she feeds on the lust directed towards her.
@@noname-kx4cu That's greed, wanting is greed.
Conceptually I find it fascinating that the sin of lust would be asexual. Somebody take that idea and do something with it please.
As a Ace i find that idea Interesting
Sin of Lust Being Ace
Or not?? Its almsot like mocking us.
I am a sex favorable asexual and even i hate such idea.
Lust requires sexual attraction as you cant feel strong desire for something you feel nothing towards.
A gay man has no attraction to a woman so why have a desire towards a woman?
@@AdaminTranzitright thats what im saying. as an ace myself, i feel like viv is sexualizing ace ppl here, like, bro 💀
I was originally gonna do that for Lust of the emotion bringers (oc group of godlike beings who control everything's emotions) and have his sister Love be aromantic but I instead decided to give the asexuality to love too because she already has enough problems because her job is really important due to how important it is to have thing love their friends and family and her struggling to have people be romantically attracted to the right people anyway, meanwhile Lust it's not as important for him for do stuff, and while he can also do sexual attraction due to his being a counterpart to his sister, that doesn't take as much thinking and he often just messages around and makes people lust for the most random stuff and see what extreme things they'll do to get that, so Lust being asexual wouldn't have really had my original intended goal of "What if people who could control romantic attraction and sexual attraction couldn't feel those" being interesting due to his usually just working with lust to mess around most of the time and how most lust doesn't relate to anything sexual at all as it's definition has always just been an insane wanting of something to the point that you'd do ANYTHING to get it without common sense or care for anyone's safety. Though, if it helps, Lust IS on the ace spectrum though as he's demisexual and rarely takes the time to get to know anyone anyway so he rarely gets the chance to feel sexual attraction, though in the end Love's being aromantic is still the most interesting thing I have sadly. I would also love to have a lust-based character too, but I already have the emotion bringers and having more than one would be odd, but atleast I naturally associate groups of 6-7 with the seven deadly sins anyway so atleast with one of my groups of 6 the character who well fits lust is someone who just massively lusts for attention and validation to a point where she constantly hurts herself and others in an attempt to get it.
@@AdaminTranzit I think they don't mean it strictly the way to portrait the Sin of Lust but gather just the idea of it and messing around to somehow make it work like an experienced
Depends on the lore and world building
It could be make as someone not sex repulse and would commit sexual act for the look as a representative of Lust despite not necessary feel it
Or they feel the sexual desire but doesn't necessarily LIKE do it with other and rather do the act themselves
It depends on how you understand what asexual is and not every asexual is the same
It can be confusing and I guess it fun messing around the concept of it and to figure it out through experience with it
If irony was a character.
Lolly gag is cherri and vaggie I think because best friends with Angel and very fun by the looks of it
"No lollygagging"
The sin of Lust being asexual wouldn’t make sense so I’m glad she changed it.
Asexual people can indeed feel sexual attraction
Lollygag sounds like me 😭🙏
Ace, Game lover, selfie lover, and pirate lover
She could make it to the show as a sister of Asmodeus. And still being the creator of sucubos and íncubos. Her interactions with Fizz would be awesome.
having the sin of lust be asexual is fucking genius. idk why but i like that
As a Ace
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@@polishalastor142 i'm ace too!!
@@polishalastor142how old are you
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Red alert the first 2 episodes were leaked but yes I did watch them because I can’t get prime video so I can’t even support the show
I almost CHOKED when I saw Lollygag. That’s Tom’s mother! She’s a succubus from Zoophobia!!!❤❤❤❤
Toms mom ?
@@polishalastor142 Thomas, or more commonly, Tom, is a character from Vivienne’s Zoophobia comic! He’s mainly a secondary antagonist in that! He’s my favorite character!:)
He’s the son of Lollygag, brother of Tam(no longer Vivzie’s I believe she sold her?), the ex boyfriend and now obsessor of Addison, and *hinted at* to may have begun a relationship with Mackenzie if the comic had continued!
We got a sneak peak of him in a background frame of the Zoophobia short Vivienne released :)
I think recycling characters is great honestly as someone who has had to do it now and then it's so sad but honestly recycling characters has made for of my favorite OCS it's such a useful skill to get right
As an asexual how the hell can you be asexual, and also be the sin of lust? How the hell is that supposed to work? Thank God, they switched her for Asmodeus. Trust me, Alaster being asexual, makes a whole lot more sense.
I mean, I'm also asexual, and you can still desire or experience lust, in the sense of just sex, just no attraction to anyone of any gender. Of course, it depends on the asexual, since it is a spectrum and I can only speak from my experience.
The sin of lust also isn't just about sexual gratification either. You can lust for power, for wealth, for recognition and fame. Lust is simply uncontrollable desire.
As guy above said, but another major example is blood
A lust for blood, therefore they could have had no hesitation to murder since it'd give them some pleasure in it
@@krystalcluck4282 the sin of lust is only limited to physical lust like sex or desire for a person. A lust for wealth is sin of greed, Fame is pride, recognition is envy or pride and power is sin of wrath, pride or lust depending on how/why like if you take it by force its wraith, if you think you deserve it its pride, if you bargin or trade for it its lust.
Also the demon of the sin of lust being somewhat Asexual makes perfect sense. The demons associated are supposed to be examplaries of the sins ie they are supposed to have committed them so infamously that they are forever tied to it and inflict it on the others as a source of power.
In one story I heard, Lucifer being cast out of heaven was because he thought he knew better than God, therefore now he must prove his point. In the historical orgins of how these myth about demons came about most of them were associated with old ideas that more recently history we consider bad or for two of them were foreign things that were demonized. The sin of lust getting to the point of where they get tired of desiring sex and becoming asexual is completely believable but still making people do it bc thats how they have power.
LESBIAN PIRATE YESS
Sin of lust *casually is the chillist non horny character ever*
Not the garten of ban ban music playing in the background 😂
Her being asexual is really interesting, but also pretty strange. Like, why is the embodiment of lust totally lacking in lust? How did that happen?
I mean ig it could be that they are lustful towards sex itself and not people but that hoes against what lust is and is supposed to be, so unless lust isnt what lust is in hazbin hotel this doesnt make sense and shouldnt be a thing
honey, most aces are like stolas 🤣dtf and let you know but coy about it
The idea would be having her I think it would be cool little thing of they do not have sexual attraction so they feed on people's sexual attraction to them and bring their deepest desires to the forefront. Basically teasing them till they are driven wild with lust. Also a lot of aces are really into the kinky sean. Instead of a strip club have her be the owner of a BDSM sex club where sinners can indulge in whole bunch of kinky sex acts.
@@squashedshibber2684so they are not asexuals. Unless you call people that regularly seek out sex and enjoy it asexual now?
Okay, but seeing a take of the sin of lust being ruled by an asexual would be FASCINATING.
BRO THANK YOU I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I JUST BOUGHT IT YAYAYAY
The effects put in Stayed Gone were so cool tho I love how it switched to Alastor at the end
The leader of lust being asexual doesnt make any sense, so glad that was changed
Same
do we really expect anything less from a white woman who thinks comedy is just swearing and sex jokes though
As an ace person, Omg Lollygag being asexual is so iconic. I feel S E EN. I love having rep of aces who also are interested in sex because it's a spectrum. Mad respect for this character.
can't belive you used garten of banban music for this lmao
I wanna know what that music in the background.
As awesome as this information is - and I would've loved to see this character - I can't stop focusing on the music. 🤣
The representative of Lust being asexual? That's like an adaptation of Tom and Jerry that's nonviolent! It's basically a walking contradiction!
The Sin of lust being asexual is truly, crazy idea
Also interesting
Funfact: there was a time were it was believed that demon couldn't feel human emotions. For example: Asmodeus couldn't feel lust. However, this changed, because the more we learned about ourselves, the more human demons became.
Dude Ozzie is an absolutely baller replacement. First off good for Lollygag for being ace and the sine sin of lust. Secondly Ozzie is super chill and a very pleasant surprise
So... Did Viv just play Skyrim, and that changed her mind... Or did she just realise that its not a good idea to have a sin of lust have a trait that makes them not lustful...?
How could the Sin of Lust be asexual?! The whole point of lust is seeking gratification through action, regardless of what it is you’re lusting after; in this case, the emphasis is on sex.
Emotionally invested or not, sexual lust would push someone to actually engage in sex, wouldn’t it?
She could be ace and be hypersexual. Since they don't have any sexual attraction they wouldn't care who they have sex. Just as long as she gets off. I think it would be cool little thing of they do not have sexual attraction so they feed on people's sexual attraction to them and bring their deepest desires to the forefront. Also a lot of aces are really into the kinky sean. Instead of a strip club have her be the owner of a BDSM sex club where sinners can indulge in whole bunch of kinky sex acts.
"Angel Dust's best friend," damn bro already has a former overlord for a boyfriend now he's BEST FRIENDS WITH *THE* SIN OF LUST 😭😭
Yo I love the titanic reference with both veggie and charlie
I find it Ironic how the sin of lust was asexual
Asexual is Little to no sexual atraction
So
Yes
Its possible
@@polishalastor142 it isnt possible
Lust requires sexual attraction, something we do not have.
Lust is strong overwhelmingly strong desire for sex, something you cant have if you dont feel attrarcted towards it.
Lust is strong desire for please, not sex itself
@@AdaminTranzit …Didn’t you just say that ‘Lust is a strong desire for pleasure, not sex’?
As an asexual, I could see the Sin of Lust chasing pleasures with glee, whilst not feeling one specific type of attraction.
Asexual lust leader sounds really awkward to me like how does someone who doesn’t have attraction to others be the main sin of being attracted to things??
Im glad that didnt stick because yea that wouldnt have worked at all
Facts
Lust IS sexual attraction wtahever people say
@@AdaminTranzit The representation of the sin could make others feel lust but themselves don't, they could even have sex as a way to fit in the typical behaviour that people expect from others, so they create sexual desires to others and have sex, it still fits the boxes and can be an interesting discussion about sexualisation.
@@anna.owo.Imagine being a creature that has to sell a product (sexual desire, obsesiveness, lust) and having no fucking clue what it is. It would have been a catastrophy.
It very good that it was changed.
They’re not the representative but the embodiment
"No its too early for burgers"
-Asmodeus
Azmodias is such a fun overlord to see on scene. He always makes an inpression
He’s a sin, not an overlord.
NOOOO THE SIN OF LUST BEING ASEXUAL IS SUCH A GOOD CONCEPT 😭
I’m confused so if Lollygag was originally the sin of lust then how can she be asexual? Not to mention she’s a succubus herself so how does that work?
Asexual also have libido
You have not met many asexuals
@@squashedshibber2684 actually I have
And on lollygag’s hat there is a feather which has skulls on, maybe that was took from inspiration to
I thought she was cherri bomb for a second bc of the angels best friend part and the way her body is built lol
An asexual sin of lust is just dumb to me, either definition, to feel no sexual attraction or to reproduce without a mate don't apply here. Just feels lkke Viv employing random sexualities without much thought other then to say 'Hey look, Ace rep!'. Any other sin could be Ace, as no other sin is literally built on the principle of sex, desire, love and attraction.
For you
Asexual is Little to no sexual atraction
@@polishalastor142 And so for you Asexuals only feel 5% sexual attraction? You're not constructing a point here.
@@polishalastor142literally. "LITTLE TO NO sexual desire"
Its like making the king of the sea a cow or the king of the skies a turtle. Its a joke.
Well Lust in the original biblical texts was not sexual desire, but a want for things you are not allowed to have. It can also include knowledge or divine power
@@G.D.G.Maybe it seems like a joke to you because of lack of understanding what actual sin of lust is and how it's entirely described.
It's not only about sex.
But like… why would the sin of *lust* be asexual? Like representation is important and all but isn’t the whole point that they’re lusting? If the sin of lust doesn’t lust then huh?
You can lust without a specific person being the target! Asexuality means little to no sexual attraction towards people, but that doesn't negate stuff like libido (aka horniness). So you can be a really horny mfer and still feel little to no sexual attraction towards people!
Almost sounds like Vivzie wanted make a joke out of asexuals...
@@G.D.G. no not really what that sounds like at all
i recycle characters i dont really think work anymore for the worlds i build all the time. its cool to see its a thing people other do as well
We were free for a time. Then we saw it, a creature of pure fallen off energy in the distance