That was a fantastic video, I forgot what a steam train sounded like, as we don't have any running in Perth Western Australia, they stopped a long time ago, there is 1 steam train that runs in winter for tourism, The Hotham valley Tourist Railway, the steam Ranger, runs from May to October. thanks again for the video, Regards Gary
Very cool to see this beautiful lady in action. Neat to see her get her feet back after all that slipping/sliding. Champions on like nothing bad ever happened !!
Thanks for sharing this great video. Lima ''Super Power'' Berkshire 2-8-4's were the last word in steam locomotives. They pulled a Fast Freight on the Nickel Plate Railroad called ''The Flying Saucer'' back in the day.
I love your video's I saw the 765 when it ran it's special through maumee ohio In July of 2012 thats the first steam locomotive I ever saw in full operation it was a hot Sunday in July we passed over the tracks by the junior high school I heard a sound That I never heard but I knew what it was the sound of history the nkp 765 was coming through
The NS (Norfolk Southern) MOW (maintenance-of-way) employee was supposed to grease the inside of the rail. He made an honest mistake and greased the entire rail, including the ball (top) of the rail, so that's why she slipped. Any locomotive would have slipped under those conditions. She pulled 35 car passenger trains in the New River Gorge, with lots of curvature and long up-hill grades were very common, and had no trouble. And she did all this before she had her major rebuild in 2003-2005. Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is the best!
+Matt Schoder this reminds me of a cartoon i used to watch as a kid, it was call "the critic" in one episode he said he greased the track so the train would run smoother, it was meant as a joke. its just kind of funny because someone jerk actually did that real life
Getting that VGN H-Unit was quite a Bonus for Ya. NKP 765 giving out great Stack Talk @ the 22:15 mark. Just an Excellent and Well Done video overall. ^_^
Hi Rob (got it right this time), hope you and yours are all well. Loved watching this video, you dont realise especially this side of the pond how big your diesel locomotives are, fantastic shot at the beginning with the people by the side of the track, gives you perspective. They are truly massive and make ours look very small. Loved the wheel slip part, surprised it couldn't drop sand itself onto the tracks as our old steam locos can or was it not working? So why do you still call your site Stephen Bennett as its your site surely hence why I got confused, thought you might have the same as your boy like I do with mine. My step son is in the RAF and also I am a veteran, ARMY real fighting man LOL. Enjoying your videos immensely Rob, whilst working on kit bashing my local engine shed which no longer exists, great fun. Regards Chris
time to get out the sand hard and heavy, the reason they grease the rail I was told by an old guy that worked over on the maintanance for csx in ohio back in the day from 77 to 98 the reason was that it helps on tight turns not to mess up the wheels when a train is going by, you dont do the top of the rail unless its a test rail or so I have heard about from back in the day.
Methinks the staff riding the engine should have gotten down a lot sooner with the bucket brigade and walked back farther along the curve. Replacing worn locomotive tires is not cost-effective, and it cuts the service life of the steel tires. The train was too damn heavy. Two water tenders, a baggage coach, about 10 heavy loads of coal plus a front end shovel in a gondola, 19 passenger coaches with a couple heavyweight coaches included and a tool car on the rear. 765 was struggling even out on the relatively straight mainline.
at 7:05 "you doofus" is my friend dan, who wanted a better shot, accidentally kicking my camera, and me, rudely telling him to watch out for my camera. this is why my camera is so close to the base of the crossing- to avoid incidents like this, but oh well. I wouldn't mind if he didn't kick my camera. hes is normally careless when in this kinds of situations. thank heavens for video editor. :P
Painesville Railfans LOL, yeah hope you weren't offended, but my son and I got a kick out of that. We met you on the bridge over RT 11 on Sunday when she was coming into Ashtabula. You asked about our scanner antenna. Was nice meeting you guys!
The amazing power of steam!!! THEY ARE NOT OBSOLETE, they were just kicked out because they weren't given the chance. do like the Grand Canyon Railway and run it on biodegradable chips. Or heck better yet have a look at what The Coalition For Sustainable Rail is proposing. That would give the stupid EPA and their bloody Tier 4 emissions a run any day.
My favorite Berk and my favorite NS Heritage SD70ACe! Nice! And I feel bad for 765, the rails were too slippery.
Wow, flange oiler working real good on this curve. What a headache. Great you were there to video this.
Mary Bainter Thanks, I am too!
That was a fantastic video, I forgot what a steam train sounded like, as we don't have any running in Perth Western Australia, they stopped a long time ago, there is 1 steam train that runs in winter for tourism, The Hotham valley Tourist Railway, the steam Ranger, runs from May to October. thanks again for the video, Regards Gary
Fantastic catch Steve,NKP 765 at her best working hard
Cheers Glynn
Glad to say I was riding on that excursion. Once she hit Youngstown.
Great video. Love her whistle. They do great job with that engine she's very strong
She was working her heart out!
No doubt
Very cool to see this beautiful lady in action. Neat to see her get her feet back after all that slipping/sliding. Champions on like nothing bad ever happened !!
Thanks for sharing this great video. Lima ''Super Power'' Berkshire 2-8-4's were the last word in steam locomotives. They pulled a Fast Freight on the Nickel Plate Railroad called ''The Flying Saucer'' back in the day.
It's all good until the sand runs out :) Good thing they had a big bucket of it.
Great catch. I'm amazed the old girl can still pull that many cars.
I love your video's I saw the 765 when it ran it's special through maumee ohio In July of 2012 thats the first steam locomotive I ever saw in full operation it was a hot Sunday in July we passed over the tracks by the junior high school I heard a sound That I never heard but I knew what it was the sound of history the nkp 765 was coming through
Rob and Steve that's a Great catch of the NKP765!
Amazing catch of the wheel-slip. Great video!
Awesome! Im going to see this next week! :D:D:D
Saw your link on the OGR Forum, very cool train watching.
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The NS (Norfolk Southern) MOW (maintenance-of-way) employee was supposed to grease the inside of the rail. He made an honest mistake and greased the entire rail, including the ball (top) of the rail, so that's why she slipped. Any locomotive would have slipped under those conditions. She pulled 35 car passenger trains in the New River Gorge, with lots of curvature and long up-hill grades were very common, and had no trouble. And she did all this before she had her major rebuild in 2003-2005. Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is the best!
Matt Schoder Explain to a doofus why you would grease the rail..........thanks
+Matt Schoder this reminds me of a cartoon i used to watch as a kid, it was call "the critic" in one episode he said he greased the track so the train would run smoother, it was meant as a joke. its just kind of funny because someone jerk actually did that real life
oh I see............never thought about that. thanks for the info
Humm the MOW employee was probably just told to go out and grease the rails. He was probably a Redbird and didn't know any better.
It cuts down on Friction and wear to the equipment and rail.
Getting that VGN H-Unit was quite a Bonus for Ya. NKP 765 giving out great Stack Talk @ the 22:15 mark. Just an Excellent and Well Done video overall. ^_^
Great audio too! Didn't realize she got stuck like she did and someone did ask what about the sander system...
great video
Hi Rob (got it right this time), hope you and yours are all well. Loved watching this video, you dont realise especially this side of the pond how big your diesel locomotives are, fantastic shot at the beginning with the people by the side of the track, gives you perspective. They are truly massive and make ours look very small. Loved the wheel slip part, surprised it couldn't drop sand itself onto the tracks as our old steam locos can or was it not working?
So why do you still call your site Stephen Bennett as its your site surely hence why I got confused, thought you might have the same as your boy like I do with mine. My step son is in the RAF and also I am a veteran, ARMY real fighting man LOL.
Enjoying your videos immensely Rob, whilst working on kit bashing my local engine shed which no longer exists, great fun.
Regards Chris
time to get out the sand hard and heavy, the reason they grease the rail I was told by an old guy that worked over on the maintanance for csx in ohio back in the day from 77 to 98 the reason was that it helps on tight turns not to mess up the wheels when a train is going by, you dont do the top of the rail unless its a test rail or so I have heard about from back in the day.
FWRHS....Class, professionalism all the way.
DAMNIT TED I TOLD YOU TO WASH OFF THE POLISH AFTER YOU POLISH THE RAILS!!!
You know I caught the 765 but missed the heritage unit! I just have bad luck catching heritage units for some reason.
She sounds like a Heisler when slipping :P
I rode in the Dome car, the Empire Builder!! The orange one, I'll have the video up later today.
How did the driver manage to control the slip so well? they are normally much more violent.
A lot of years running her!
YOU PEOPLE SAY THAT THE LOCOMOTIVE NEEDS MORE FUEL IT REALLY DOES NOT IT IS TELLING ME THAT IT IS A MECHANICAL STOKER TYPE LOCOMOTIVE.
Thats a hard wheel slip and you can see the strain on the rods.
Methinks the staff riding the engine should have gotten down a lot sooner with the bucket brigade and walked back farther along the curve. Replacing worn locomotive tires is not cost-effective, and it cuts the service life of the steel tires.
The train was too damn heavy. Two water tenders, a baggage coach, about 10 heavy loads of coal plus a front end shovel in a gondola, 19 passenger coaches with a couple heavyweight coaches included and a tool car on the rear. 765 was struggling even out on the relatively straight mainline.
Whoa!
at 7:05 "you doofus" is my friend dan, who wanted a better shot, accidentally kicking my camera, and me, rudely telling him to watch out for my camera. this is why my camera is so close to the base of the crossing- to avoid incidents like this, but oh well. I wouldn't mind if he didn't kick my camera. hes is normally careless when in this kinds of situations. thank heavens for video editor. :P
Painesville Railfans LOL, yeah hope you weren't offended, but my son and I got a kick out of that. We met you on the bridge over RT 11 on Sunday when she was coming into Ashtabula. You asked about our scanner antenna. Was nice meeting you guys!
Is everything ok with the 765?
Probably three things were the problem, they run out of sand, the rails were to smooth or the people on that train were to heavy.
Some NS Employee greased the rails too much and caused awful slippage
It was a ferry move so their were no passengers.
I don't even work for a railroad but even I'd know you don't grease the top of a rail.
Were the sanders working.
+4895346tre Oh yes...just not enough sand to overcome the greased rails.
its hard to find a women who relly likes these things
only the rare ones
We all love a good slip, but man. You never wanna see it this bad. Havoc on the engine and rails. Hell of a job getting her through it
Was that Rich Melvin on the ground?
+derekstew13 Yes it was. Gary Bensman was at the throttle.
Yes that was Rich Melvin with the bucket
The amazing power of steam!!! THEY ARE NOT OBSOLETE, they were just kicked out because they weren't given the chance. do like the Grand Canyon Railway and run it on biodegradable chips. Or heck better yet have a look at what The Coalition For Sustainable Rail is proposing. That would give the stupid EPA and their bloody Tier 4 emissions a run any day.
Nickel Plate Road 765 & Nickel Plate Road 8100
fire breathing dragens
The poor girl, why was she slipping so much?
Grease on the rails.
doesnt she has a sander system?
Some NS MOW Employee greased the rails too much and caused awful slippage
NKP 765 does have a Sander system on her.
You don't slap someone just because they are to close to your camera
What this needs is N.S. 8100.
big and mean
in the wrong era big time