Mine showed up yesterday. One thing I found right off the hop is that the barrel jack is proud of the chassis about 1-2mm and there has already been arcing from the DC barrel plug to the chassis when I moved the switch. Does NOT bode well. Opened a case with UI Support this AM. Maybe ElectroBoom will like one of these.
Update: Ubiquiti is absolutely taking charge of the problem and resolving it beyond expectation. I have to say, this is a VERY good intro into their Support and RMA departments and a breath of fresh air. That said, I've never had to exercise Support or RMA in the 10+ years I've been buying Ubiquiti gear for my home and home lab.
External bricks are more reliable, safe to replace, run cooler than internal ones, and don't require massive disruption to replace if they die. When the brick is integrated into the rack mount like this one, it's perfect. For a desktop or wall mount though, the brick sucks big time - there are many negatives - the size, but most of all the difficulty of cable management.
@@einfelder8262 There are pros and cons either way. I just prefer integrated PSUs. I know this device isn't marketed towards someone like me. Its still good to have as an option nonetheless.
yeah if they had slapped the power inside you wouldn't have to pay €45+tax for the stupid rack ears... and you would have had a clean looking front too
I agree--I don't need POE in my home office, or the second-floor distribution switch. A straight 8-port 2.5 GB switch would be a nice addition to the mix between my office and the NAS in the rack in the basement...
4 x 2.5 G with 12 x 1 G is stupid to buy. 8+8 would be ok, 16x 2,5 G with 8 times PoE++ would be awesome. Maybe I have to wait for the new "Enterprise 16 PoE"?
yeah that last one with 16x 2,5g w/8x poe++ would have been the intelligent one to make and wouldn't have costed that much more... and then make it internal psu
In the UniFi Store, they have the Pro Max 16 PoE listed as $399 (rather than $479) and as you listed the Pro Max 16 Non-PoE for $279. Good to see they lowered the price on the Pro Max 16 PoE switch. That’s a decent price.
@@grantwilcox330it was always going to be $50 accessory kit, no matter what the switch price was. Not including rack ears but charging $50 to get them. Can you say Rip Off?
Agreed with other comments about the ridiculous power supply arrangement. They made the chassis smaller then had to invent that contraption to make it the correct width again to hold the power brick. Just make the chassis the proper 1U width to integrate the PSU! Also the Pro Max series should really have all 2.5 Gbps ports as standard. Finding 1 Gbps ports on a brand new device in 2024 marketed as "Pro Max" doesn't sit right.
Once again, UI demonstrates vision outside the box. The benefits of things like an external (but rack-mountable) PSU can take a minute to sink in. Great coverage, Chris!
For rack mount you can buy the overly elaborate Isambard Kingdom Brunel construction to hold the PSU, but I worry the DC input into the main unit won't be secure. And what do you do when it's in a desk etc. Just build the PSU in!
The implementation of this PSU rack-mount is a bit ridiculous to be honest. The required space to include the psu into the actual switch is smaller then having the silly extenstion thingy
Finally they put all the ports next to each other. I have the 24 PoE switch and it’s frustrating that all the ports are on the right side. Think of buying this model, but only if I can sell my current switch for the right price.
Thanks for another great video, Chris! Was a bit put off by the power brick until you showed the rack mount setup, they did a great job building a compartment for it so it is up and out of the way. I'm also thinking one could feed this with alternative power sources.
@@timmyboy04 yeah but it takes up more room due to plastic "details" than it needs... and no ear mount for it... so it cold have been made better than a "desk mount" especially with the name and price they gave it
The question then becomes why one needs the full 2.5 Gbps, and if it needs 25 Gbps uplinks. Unless one only has one switch, going past 4 2.5Gbps ports and the 1Gbps ports maxes out both 10 Gbps links. That's fine for residential, but probably not good for anything other than a small business.
Looks like you can flip the wall mounting ears the other direction to make them hide behind the switch? Makes the wall footprint a bit smaller, cool switch!
I just bought this nice peace of hardware. Like you, I do not need 24 ports, so the 16 port switch fit my needs. From my point of view there could be more 2.5G Ports, but for ht next couple of years this is ok. If needed, there will be another switch as an add on in my rack in the future.
For your 10gig setup, what are you using for your SFP+ 10g backbone? I was thinking of getting a Unifi Aggregation but wasn't sure if that would do what I needed to connect my TrueNAS Server and my minisforum MS-01 devices. What do you recommend for a homelabber? I already have ubiquiti hardware, so I was thinking of using the USW-Aggregation device. Is this the route you would go?
Sounds like a perfect application for the Aggregation switch. Although, if only expect to ever have two 10Gb devices, you could just skip the switch and directly attach them.
It's perfect for my case, the 10G coming from the router, a couple of 2.5 for the newer PCs, POE++ to power some ultras and de-centralize the cable convergence on the current 24p switch
It is definitely a better design. I am glad it has some 2.5Gbps on it and the fact that every port is at least POE+ is really good and it should make for a good home setup where you can have APs on the 2.5Gbps ports with cameras running on the rest. The only thing I question on the switch is the external power brick. I kinda wish they had just made the case itself bigger and then stuck it where they did in the rack mount accessory. The accessory is very well thought out with how it routes the cables though. I wonder if it would make more sense alongside the non POE version. I bet that thing doesn't have nearly as big of a power brick and might just be more like a little wall wart.
This will likely replace my combination of 16-lite + Flex XG I am using today, which will save on room inside our leviton structured cabinet upstairs. The 16 lite has so _little_ total amperage that I had to add an additional inline poe adapter because I kept going over the max Amps (which functionally I found lower than they advertise). Agree with the comments on the extra large power brick, but it will be ok. I will have to design some 3d printed Leviton mounts for both (I design and print custom leviton adapters for all my unifi gear). As for your question about the lighting? Meh. It's just not that useful for equipment in a closed / locked cabinet. But this product does solve a missing size / form factor for 16port 10G that they were missing.
Great video, I have the old 16 port USW with POE but it's full width and goes into my comms cupboard sideways so I will definitely be buying this to replace that. Not that there is anything wrong with it except the POE+ isn't enough to drive the Flex that my U6-LR is connected to. Thanks for the vid.
I have been waiting for something like this to replace my old USW 16 PoE. More Power and 10G SFP+ ports, which was something I did not get with my original one because I failed to notice that it was only 1Gb. At first I did not like the power brick but the way the rack mount hides it is great and I can appreciate the smaller form factor for those that do not have a rack. Definitely an upgrade that I will be doing soon. It was hard to justify the $799 for the 24 port for my use case, as I did not need that many ports, but this one is perfect.
External PSU and no support for their own RPS/battery backup (alternative power supply) power methods they were trying to push so hard earlier. Outside of that, at least it seems fairly sane. It would be nice if the DC terminal was able to be secured. And it is nice that it is a 54v device.
@@alexandreanoutchine1885 But what if it is a pro max ultra extreeme elite version? ... ffs this naming scheme is beyond convoluted and meaningless at a glance.
@@alexandreanoutchine1885Enterprise switches still do. Nothing about Ubiquiti is Enterprise. Doesn’t make it bad. But it’s not the right choice if you can’t have any downtime, and thus need redundancy.
yeah that own powersupply method seems half arsed... was trying to pick the things I wanted for a full system rebuild, but half the items didn't support it anyways... so would need an UPS anyways so no need to buy into their power solution
Honestly with only 4 2.5 GB thats a miss. I wanna do a full unifi network build but until they recognize that people want 2.5 GB I can't pull the trigger on their prices.
I currently use all Netgear Insight switches .. I was considering make the switch to Ubiquiti and specifically this switch, as I am having some issues with my fiber uplinks .. because of the complexity of my install and the lack of resources with the ability to assist .. will these switches reach out to me with issues (internet down, connected neighbor down ... etc ...) .. Thank you for the video, I am planning to order a pair of these if the Ubiquiti management is equal or better than insight.
Thanks for sharing the info on the switch! Is the BOM cost of a 2.5 GBe ports really so high they have to keep skimping on 2.5GBe ports? I would be far more interested in the switch if it was a full 2.5GBe switch (or better yet, lets all just get to 10Gbe instead of these middle jumps xD)
Nice, but I don't get the purpose of an external PSU. I would rather prefer full width oder a bit deeper. Anyways: what I really need is a medium sized 10Gbit Switch (RJ45+SFP)
Love the smaller switch. Definitely would suit my needs - other than the lack of faster ports. Why do they insist on having so many 1 gigabit ports?? At minimum it should be 8x 2.5 gigabit ports. Bit lets be real, they should be all 2.5 and start offering faster port selections.
I’m waiting for a switch that is part sfp+ and part RJ45 10g. Part of my network is sfp+ and the other is RJ45 10gb and I want way to put them together without having to use an adapter that gets so hot that I can could dinner on. How about a 10gb flex switch with an sfp+ connection on it instead a a 1gb connection?
I will buy this for my small home cabinet, I just need a smaller getaway like the ultra with all the features of the dream machine pro max, this can be done with external power supply and pcie ssd drives.
I'm building a house and looking into this switch. Like others have said, I really wish this had more 2.5G ports. I'll have several devices that will be in need of a 2.5G port like my desktop, NAS, and 2 AP. Would have made sense to just split it down the middle. That would have been perfect IMO.
Great videos and confirmed my decision to get the UDR (Pill Shape) for my home. I have a home setup where I want to have the 16 ports, but curious if you can turn off/on individual ports like on the UDR? For example, have 5 POE ports and configure the other ports as data only. This is more an effort to centralise hardware and have a flexible configuration.
As soon as I saw this only had 4 x 2.5G I knew lots of people would complain and sure enough. People need to understand that 2.5/5G 802.3bz was never intended to replace 1G to the desktop or NAS. There's 10G for that. It was created for a niche. That niche was for powering and supporting WAP's that could saturate a 1G link while still using the existing CAT5e or CAT6 cabling in a buildings ceiling. The 10G standard doesn't include PoE either, a new standard was required to meet all needs of high speed WAP's. So this switch is intended to support 4 x UniFi U6-Enterprise or U7 Pro WAP's. The network vendors don't want to sell you a 16 port 2.5G switch because they want to sell you a 16 x 10G switch.
It was designed to deliver higher speeds over Cat 5e over a longer distance that 10Gb could go over Cat 5e. Use in high speed wireless access points was the particular use case behind it, but that’s no reason to limit 2.5GB to that use only. Every new standard starts as a niche. Using that logic the vast majority of PCs could still be 100Mb. But faster networks gets data to its destination and that means off the network faster. That reduces network congestion where it’s an issue. As a standard, it’s been around since 2016. It’s time for it to take over as the base networking speed.
Would much rather the PSU on chassis, whether rack or wall mount. I was very close to pulling the trigger on this - I could probably get over the brick but the lack of 2.5 ports is very disappointing.
love it, I'm a bit of a newbie to this I have a dream machine pro , would I need to get a 2.5g sfp adapter for the dmp then cable from there to the 2.5gb switch . I am looking at a 2.5g asustor nas and have 2 APs that require poe so this looks great . Also sorry for noob question i have 1000 mb internet via fibre would that benefit from a 2.5 wan spf adapter for internet in also
external psu = no go not full with = no go only 4x 2,5g = no go heck the 8port enterprise is better then with 8x 2,5g ports... 1g ports are a dime a dozen and can be added for like 20 bucks...
Have been using 10gbe on most of my network for almost 8 months now, with 2.5gb on all my smaller devices, I don’t think I could go back to gigabit or even 2.5g link between my storage server and other devices. Can’t wait for the price to come down enough for 10gbe to be affordable for more people
finally something with 2.5gbps, poe++ and sfp+ in "ok ish" pricerange! really wish psu would be included and normal 1U form factor, but still very nice!
To me this would only start to make sense if there is a POE powererd 2.5 switch down stream nd i dont think that exists, yet anyhow. Why else would you need POE++ and 2.5 on the same port. To me it would make more sense to have the POE++ on the one gigabit side. To have power distribution through a 5 port POE or cameras and the like and keep the 2.5 open for faster devices like a few pcs not needing POE. Am i missing some application for having it this way?
How hot does it get without a fan? Does it have a temperature sensor? Can you stack it? The enterprise 8 has got an active fan and also gets very hot. How is the temperate here without fan?
Seems to have some layer 3 features though it doesn’t appear to have any real routing present. But for $399, it’ll work, was just looking for a new 16 port last night and want some layer 3 on it.
Looks great, just about perfect for my needs. Power supply will be easy to replace in the 1u configuration if it fails. Now hoping they release 16 and 8 port 10g switches
This is the one I want for my own home network ... $399US (current price on UI Store) is AUD$602 ... but I bet the bloody thing is closer to $1000 by the time I get my hands on it ...
Decent specs but I'm not a fan of that form factor. It's like a hybrid trying to be out on the desk/wall and also the rack. A typical hybrid where it doesn't do either job very well. I guess for $399 one can't complain too much. Also strange to have a PRO machine without DC Power Backup possibility, especially when POE++ devices usually are important. Rack mounting is definitely secondary on this guy.
Unless im missing something, hes showing these rack mounts AS IF it comes in the box. As per the website, they do not. Its an additional $50 USD to buy the rack mount add on. Thats kind of crazy.
It might have made more sense to split the PoE++ ports between the 2.5Gb and 1Gb ports as PoE++ devices like the Access controllers wouldn’t need 2.5Gb and therefore would be wasting one of the few 2.5Gb ports on the switch. Other than that it seems like a great product!
In the installation guide it does look like it has standard ear mounting points as well as the proprietary mounts for the accessory kit. But it won’t fit a 10” rack as it’s 13” wide.
I really like this switch with 4 2.5GB ports. Also the option with and without POE is great. This Nightrider Effect costs money and I think in 95% isn’t used. The 50 bugs for the Rackmount is much to high in my opinion. I think, I will buy one because of the in my opinion good home usability with the port combination. But I would like to not pay for this light games and to high priced rack mount. … and I like your videos 👍🏻
The 1st of April was long gone when this was recorded, guess Ubiquiti missed the memo. Would have preferred to see PoE++ in conjunction with port speeds that can actually support WiFi 7's real world bandwidth. Time for Ubiquiti to start getting ahead of the curve for a change. This is almost a step backwards. Just as the U7 Pro is nowhere near the caliber of a "Pro" AP. Just called it the "Pro" to charge more money. Wasting time and resources currently on this switch is comical.
I would have thought the cat would have left the room what with you bombing it with packing material. Anyway, cool effect. I feel for you having to have only 1Gb in your house. I'm stuck with starlink at whatever the satellite is giving me at any given moment. Yeah, I do not expect to have any need for a gigabit switch anytime soon. I do have their ethernet add-on connected so at least I can be wired in my house. I am looking forward to getting the new Onn streaming gizmo from walmart, hopefully any day now.
NOTE: UI changed up the MSRP at launch - the USW-Pro-Max-16-PoE is now $399!
I was just coming to say that!
Add in the rack mount kit at you’re looking at $450. I like it, but would have preferred to not have to buy the kit to rack mount it.
future Chris?
Mine showed up yesterday. One thing I found right off the hop is that the barrel jack is proud of the chassis about 1-2mm and there has already been arcing from the DC barrel plug to the chassis when I moved the switch. Does NOT bode well. Opened a case with UI Support this AM. Maybe ElectroBoom will like one of these.
Update: Ubiquiti is absolutely taking charge of the problem and resolving it beyond expectation. I have to say, this is a VERY good intro into their Support and RMA departments and a breath of fresh air. That said, I've never had to exercise Support or RMA in the 10+ years I've been buying Ubiquiti gear for my home and home lab.
Personally, I prefer internal power supplies. I hate large power bricks. I'm glad to see this as an offering, nonetheless.
With an internal PSU fanless would not have been possible.
External bricks are more reliable, safe to replace, run cooler than internal ones, and don't require massive disruption to replace if they die. When the brick is integrated into the rack mount like this one, it's perfect. For a desktop or wall mount though, the brick sucks big time - there are many negatives - the size, but most of all the difficulty of cable management.
@@einfelder8262 There are pros and cons either way. I just prefer integrated PSUs. I know this device isn't marketed towards someone like me. Its still good to have as an option nonetheless.
i like the internal psu to, but external has some adhantages, like easy to swap, or easy to do a dc mod and feed the switch from a dc source directly.
yeah if they had slapped the power inside you wouldn't have to pay €45+tax for the stupid rack ears... and you would have had a clean looking front too
Still waiting for an all 2.5 GB switch
I currently use the enterprise 8 poe in my setup for 2.5 GB. Working flawlessly so far, been about 8 months now.
I agree--I don't need POE in my home office, or the second-floor distribution switch. A straight 8-port 2.5 GB switch would be a nice addition to the mix between my office and the NAS in the rack in the basement...
I gave up waiting for Unifi to deliver what we want and not what they can drip out to upsell people bit by bit.
Yes, at least 8 2.5GB ports were much nicer, I agree
Yep totally agree, the same physical format with 8 2.5G would be ideal mounted under my desk
Customers: We want a Pro line with 16x 2.5 GbE with PoE+
Unifi: Best I can do is neon lights with 4x 2.5 GbE
What about 10gbe ports? Not a single one
@@barygolTechnically, there are also 2 10Gb SFP ports. You can always buy an adapter to ethernet port.
Their trying to get into the fortnite crowd I think
Exactly right , ZZZZZZZ
ugh, would be perfect if they'd quit the 2.5/1gbps port mix stupidity. Only 4 2.5gbps ports? Huge miss IMO.
You got two extra SFP 10GB, you can get those RJ45 SFP modules
@@Deraco1 but you can't split them into 4x 2,5 each ;-)
@@Deraco1 while true, I need more than that. If they'd even do HALF of the switch 2.5gbps I might think about it.
Zyxel xmg1915-18ep is a good alternative - you don't get POE on all the ports BUT all the ports are 2.5GB. And inbuilt PSU but not fanless.
"I don't need that many ports" is a statement that gets regretted very fast.
16+2 is enough for most normal ppl... for the "geeks" with homelabs go for 24+2 or higher...
4 x 2.5 G with 12 x 1 G is stupid to buy. 8+8 would be ok, 16x 2,5 G with 8 times PoE++ would be awesome. Maybe I have to wait for the new "Enterprise 16 PoE"?
yeah that last one with 16x 2,5g w/8x poe++ would have been the intelligent one to make and wouldn't have costed that much more... and then make it internal psu
You had me looking all around for my cat!
It was a nice touch that each yowl was different, lol.
In the UniFi Store, they have the Pro Max 16 PoE listed as $399 (rather than $479) and as you listed the Pro Max 16 Non-PoE for $279. Good to see they lowered the price on the Pro Max 16 PoE switch. That’s a decent price.
Yup - I put a note in the description about that...stuff happens fast!
@@CrosstalkSolutions haha indeed!
it looks like you can by the rack mount separately though now.
@@grantwilcox330it was always going to be $50 accessory kit, no matter what the switch price was.
Not including rack ears but charging $50 to get them. Can you say Rip Off?
With that price and 4 2.5gbe. The rack mount kit should have been included.
Not the whole kit, but sure should have included the rack mount ears.
@@williamp6800 kit? you mean the stupid psu holder for the psu that should have been built into it to begin with?
If it was an all 2.5gb switch with 2 10gb sfp ports then they'd be able to justify the $400 price tag
Agreed with other comments about the ridiculous power supply arrangement. They made the chassis smaller then had to invent that contraption to make it the correct width again to hold the power brick. Just make the chassis the proper 1U width to integrate the PSU!
Also the Pro Max series should really have all 2.5 Gbps ports as standard. Finding 1 Gbps ports on a brand new device in 2024 marketed as "Pro Max" doesn't sit right.
Pro Min... No Max when it is still 1g...
Once again, UI demonstrates vision outside the box. The benefits of things like an external (but rack-mountable) PSU can take a minute to sink in. Great coverage, Chris!
Not sure how i feel about it having an external PSU.
Did you not watch the part where the power brick fits into the rack attachment?
For rack mount you can buy the overly elaborate Isambard Kingdom Brunel construction to hold the PSU, but I worry the DC input into the main unit won't be secure. And what do you do when it's in a desk etc. Just build the PSU in!
@@CrosstalkSolutions admittedly I didn’t catch that part lol
@@CrosstalkSolutions I like that they provide a place to put the brick
The implementation of this PSU rack-mount is a bit ridiculous to be honest. The required space to include the psu into the actual switch is smaller then having the silly extenstion thingy
Looks like a nice alternative to the Pro 8 Poe, and with rack mounting. May get this once I fill up my dream machine SE.
This is the best rack mount accessory package I have ever seen.
Anyone happy to have to pay $50 to get rack mount ears has lost perspective on price and value.
Finally they put all the ports next to each other. I have the 24 PoE switch and it’s frustrating that all the ports are on the right side. Think of buying this model, but only if I can sell my current switch for the right price.
Thanks for another great video, Chris! Was a bit put off by the power brick until you showed the rack mount setup, they did a great job building a compartment for it so it is up and out of the way. I'm also thinking one could feed this with alternative power sources.
They need to commit and make a full 2.5 gbps switch.
a rackmount one yes... the 8+2 enterprise is nice... but not rackmountable
@@LiLBitsDK Anything is rack mountable with some effort and creativity.
@@timmyboy04 yeah but it takes up more room due to plastic "details" than it needs... and no ear mount for it... so it cold have been made better than a "desk mount" especially with the name and price they gave it
The question then becomes why one needs the full 2.5 Gbps, and if it needs 25 Gbps uplinks. Unless one only has one switch, going past 4 2.5Gbps ports and the 1Gbps ports maxes out both 10 Gbps links. That's fine for residential, but probably not good for anything other than a small business.
YES ! This is the one I need for a residence with average 4 Unifi 7 AP's and 12 Cameras. Perfect!
Why do they keep shorting 2.5 interfaces?
Because this is probably the backbone for 12 cameras and a 2.5 for dvr and 2.5 for uplink, and two spare 2.5’s
It's nice, but not splitting as 8x 2.5g, 8x 1g is a bit of a crime, for "pro max". Perhaps the ultra mega elite version will.
Looks like you can flip the wall mounting ears the other direction to make them hide behind the switch? Makes the wall footprint a bit smaller, cool switch!
Not a fan of RGB lighting in general, but here I can use it to signal things. That makes it useful IMO.
A better featured 16 port switch was always an interesting product hole in their lineup. It’s good they fixed it.
Especially like the silent operation. Wish the Enterprise 8 PoE included that as well!
kinda wish they made a Enterprise 8 non-poe (cheaper) the 8port enterprise is more expensive than the 16port in this review
That is the switch that I was expecting! The price is little high with rack adapter but definitely I will buy one. Thank you Chris!
I just bought this nice peace of hardware. Like you, I do not need 24 ports, so the 16 port switch fit my needs. From my point of view there could be more 2.5G Ports, but for ht next couple of years this is ok. If needed, there will be another switch as an add on in my rack in the future.
For your 10gig setup, what are you using for your SFP+ 10g backbone? I was thinking of getting a Unifi Aggregation but wasn't sure if that would do what I needed to connect my TrueNAS Server and my minisforum MS-01 devices. What do you recommend for a homelabber? I already have ubiquiti hardware, so I was thinking of using the USW-Aggregation device. Is this the route you would go?
Sounds like a perfect application for the Aggregation switch. Although, if only expect to ever have two 10Gb devices, you could just skip the switch and directly attach them.
@@williamp6800 the plan is to eventually have more sfp+ devices (ms01 or something similar) and give it fast access to the truenas server)
It's perfect for my case, the 10G coming from the router, a couple of 2.5 for the newer PCs, POE++ to power some ultras and de-centralize the cable convergence on the current 24p switch
It is definitely a better design. I am glad it has some 2.5Gbps on it and the fact that every port is at least POE+ is really good and it should make for a good home setup where you can have APs on the 2.5Gbps ports with cameras running on the rest. The only thing I question on the switch is the external power brick. I kinda wish they had just made the case itself bigger and then stuck it where they did in the rack mount accessory. The accessory is very well thought out with how it routes the cables though. I wonder if it would make more sense alongside the non POE version. I bet that thing doesn't have nearly as big of a power brick and might just be more like a little wall wart.
Looks cool. I like the ether-lighting.
This will likely replace my combination of 16-lite + Flex XG I am using today, which will save on room inside our leviton structured cabinet upstairs.
The 16 lite has so _little_ total amperage that I had to add an additional inline poe adapter because I kept going over the max Amps (which functionally I found lower than they advertise).
Agree with the comments on the extra large power brick, but it will be ok. I will have to design some 3d printed Leviton mounts for both (I design and print custom leviton adapters for all my unifi gear).
As for your question about the lighting? Meh. It's just not that useful for equipment in a closed / locked cabinet. But this product does solve a missing size / form factor for 16port 10G that they were missing.
Great video, I have the old 16 port USW with POE but it's full width and goes into my comms cupboard sideways so I will definitely be buying this to replace that. Not that there is anything wrong with it except the POE+ isn't enough to drive the Flex that my U6-LR is connected to. Thanks for the vid.
I have been waiting for something like this to replace my old USW 16 PoE. More Power and 10G SFP+ ports, which was something I did not get with my original one because I failed to notice that it was only 1Gb. At first I did not like the power brick but the way the rack mount hides it is great and I can appreciate the smaller form factor for those that do not have a rack. Definitely an upgrade that I will be doing soon. It was hard to justify the $799 for the 24 port for my use case, as I did not need that many ports, but this one is perfect.
Totally just ordered some Ultra's yesterday for my I-don't-want-a-rack home setup and now have to see if I can switch them out for this.
Needs at least 8 2.5gbe ports and should have the rack mount bracket included
I'm definitely going to buy this!
External PSU and no support for their own RPS/battery backup (alternative power supply) power methods they were trying to push so hard earlier. Outside of that, at least it seems fairly sane. It would be nice if the DC terminal was able to be secured. And it is nice that it is a 54v device.
DC power backup should be a must on a pro line
@@alexandreanoutchine1885 But what if it is a pro max ultra extreeme elite version? ... ffs this naming scheme is beyond convoluted and meaningless at a glance.
@@SeijinSA I'm not arguing about their naming scheme but up until now pro/enterprise rack mountable switches had DC power backup
@@alexandreanoutchine1885Enterprise switches still do. Nothing about Ubiquiti is Enterprise. Doesn’t make it bad. But it’s not the right choice if you can’t have any downtime, and thus need redundancy.
yeah that own powersupply method seems half arsed... was trying to pick the things I wanted for a full system rebuild, but half the items didn't support it anyways... so would need an UPS anyways so no need to buy into their power solution
will be my first unifi switch purchase, so excited and was waiting for a 16 port with sfp+
Honestly with only 4 2.5 GB thats a miss. I wanna do a full unifi network build but until they recognize that people want 2.5 GB I can't pull the trigger on their prices.
I like the form factor and its flexibility in mounting, I can think of a lot of use cases for this.
I currently use all Netgear Insight switches .. I was considering make the switch to Ubiquiti and specifically this switch, as I am having some issues with my fiber uplinks .. because of the complexity of my install and the lack of resources with the ability to assist .. will these switches reach out to me with issues (internet down, connected neighbor down ... etc ...) .. Thank you for the video, I am planning to order a pair of these if the Ubiquiti management is equal or better than insight.
Thanks for sharing the info on the switch!
Is the BOM cost of a 2.5 GBe ports really so high they have to keep skimping on 2.5GBe ports?
I would be far more interested in the switch if it was a full 2.5GBe switch (or better yet, lets all just get to 10Gbe instead of these middle jumps xD)
Nice, but I don't get the purpose of an external PSU. I would rather prefer full width oder a bit deeper. Anyways: what I really need is a medium sized 10Gbit Switch (RJ45+SFP)
Love the smaller switch. Definitely would suit my needs - other than the lack of faster ports. Why do they insist on having so many 1 gigabit ports?? At minimum it should be 8x 2.5 gigabit ports. Bit lets be real, they should be all 2.5 and start offering faster port selections.
I’m waiting for a switch that is part sfp+ and part RJ45 10g. Part of my network is sfp+ and the other is RJ45 10gb and I want way to put them together without having to use an adapter that gets so hot that I can could dinner on. How about a 10gb flex switch with an sfp+ connection on it instead a a 1gb connection?
well would only need 1 adapter to hook the sfp+ up with their 10g rj45 one... just don't lick the adapter but 1 isn't an issue at all
I will buy this for my small home cabinet, I just need a smaller getaway like the ultra with all the features of the dream machine pro max, this can be done with external power supply and pcie ssd drives.
This is exactly what I have been looking for! Just ordered mine!
I'm building a house and looking into this switch. Like others have said, I really wish this had more 2.5G ports. I'll have several devices that will be in need of a 2.5G port like my desktop, NAS, and 2 AP. Would have made sense to just split it down the middle. That would have been perfect IMO.
Great videos and confirmed my decision to get the UDR (Pill Shape) for my home. I have a home setup where I want to have the 16 ports, but curious if you can turn off/on individual ports like on the UDR? For example, have 5 POE ports and configure the other ports as data only. This is more an effort to centralise hardware and have a flexible configuration.
The external brick appears to be much smaller for the non-POE version. Unfortunate that I can’t find the 16 Pro Max non-POE version on Amazon.
This is only saved by that rack kit having a spot for the brick however the extra cost id rather get more ports that are unused
This just changed the landscape of under-the-desk switches for everyone, especially if you have a Unifi ecosystem!
This is exactly switch I need. Enough ports for me and PoE++ for USW Flex.
When are you going to take a look at the UXG Max?
And what on earth is that external PSU all about!??? Madness!
As soon as I saw this only had 4 x 2.5G I knew lots of people would complain and sure enough. People need to understand that 2.5/5G 802.3bz was never intended to replace 1G to the desktop or NAS. There's 10G for that. It was created for a niche. That niche was for powering and supporting WAP's that could saturate a 1G link while still using the existing CAT5e or CAT6 cabling in a buildings ceiling. The 10G standard doesn't include PoE either, a new standard was required to meet all needs of high speed WAP's. So this switch is intended to support 4 x UniFi U6-Enterprise or U7 Pro WAP's. The network vendors don't want to sell you a 16 port 2.5G switch because they want to sell you a 16 x 10G switch.
It was designed to deliver higher speeds over Cat 5e over a longer distance that 10Gb could go over Cat 5e. Use in high speed wireless access points was the particular use case behind it, but that’s no reason to limit 2.5GB to that use only.
Every new standard starts as a niche. Using that logic the vast majority of PCs could still be 100Mb. But faster networks gets data to its destination and that means off the network faster. That reduces network congestion where it’s an issue.
As a standard, it’s been around since 2016. It’s time for it to take over as the base networking speed.
Would much rather the PSU on chassis, whether rack or wall mount. I was very close to pulling the trigger on this - I could probably get over the brick but the lack of 2.5 ports is very disappointing.
Waiting for a docsis 4 modem
love it, I'm a bit of a newbie to this I have a dream machine pro , would I need to get a 2.5g sfp adapter for the dmp then cable from there to the 2.5gb switch . I am looking at a 2.5g asustor nas and have 2 APs that require poe so this looks great . Also sorry for noob question i have 1000 mb internet via fibre would that benefit from a 2.5 wan spf adapter for internet in also
Nice update for those of us the have small system in our homes to expand
Nice ! I want the same form factor Switch with 16 10Gbe ports ! :-)
Finally they hit the Jackpot with this one!! Its Perfect in every aspect even the Price!!
This is far from perfect lol
external psu = no go
not full with = no go
only 4x 2,5g = no go
heck the 8port enterprise is better then with 8x 2,5g ports... 1g ports are a dime a dozen and can be added for like 20 bucks...
Have been using 10gbe on most of my network for almost 8 months now, with 2.5gb on all my smaller devices, I don’t think I could go back to gigabit or even 2.5g link between my storage server and other devices. Can’t wait for the price to come down enough for 10gbe to be affordable for more people
Just bought 20 of them... ... I wonder when they turn up..
finally something with 2.5gbps, poe++ and sfp+ in "ok ish" pricerange! really wish psu would be included and normal 1U form factor, but still very nice!
To me this would only start to make sense if there is a POE powererd 2.5 switch down stream nd i dont think that exists, yet anyhow. Why else would you need POE++ and 2.5 on the same port. To me it would make more sense to have the POE++ on the one gigabit side. To have power distribution through a 5 port POE or cameras and the like and keep the 2.5 open for faster devices like a few pcs not needing POE. Am i missing some application for having it this way?
How hot does it get without a fan? Does it have a temperature sensor? Can you stack it? The enterprise 8 has got an active fan and also gets very hot. How is the temperate here without fan?
Seems to have some layer 3 features though it doesn’t appear to have any real routing present. But for $399, it’ll work, was just looking for a new 16 port last night and want some layer 3 on it.
Looks great, just about perfect for my needs. Power supply will be easy to replace in the 1u configuration if it fails. Now hoping they release 16 and 8 port 10g switches
This is the one I want for my own home network ... $399US (current price on UI Store) is AUD$602 ... but I bet the bloody thing is closer to $1000 by the time I get my hands on it ...
Wonder what's the idle power usage.
I just don't know which market UI is targeting with all these new products.
Definitely going to buy this one
I wish there is a desktop version of UDM Pro/ SE ( maybe called it UDM Air / Air SE ) just like this size to fit -in apartment space.
Decent specs but I'm not a fan of that form factor. It's like a hybrid trying to be out on the desk/wall and also the rack. A typical hybrid where it doesn't do either job very well. I guess for $399 one can't complain too much.
Also strange to have a PRO machine without DC Power Backup possibility, especially when POE++ devices usually are important. Rack mounting is definitely secondary on this guy.
The fact that it is an optionally rack mountable and within a PRO line but without a DC power backup doesn't make any sense for me
Unless im missing something, hes showing these rack mounts AS IF it comes in the box. As per the website, they do not. Its an additional $50 USD to buy the rack mount add on. Thats kind of crazy.
It might have made more sense to split the PoE++ ports between the 2.5Gb and 1Gb ports as PoE++ devices like the Access controllers wouldn’t need 2.5Gb and therefore would be wasting one of the few 2.5Gb ports on the switch. Other than that it seems like a great product!
Is it silent (under load), or is it like their 24 port hovercraft effect switches?
Interesting power supply “pot”. Do you reckon that standard rack ears on both sides will fit the switch into a 10 inch telco rack?
In the installation guide it does look like it has standard ear mounting points as well as the proprietary mounts for the accessory kit. But it won’t fit a 10” rack as it’s 13” wide.
Nightrider? Or Cylon?
Can you turn of Etherlight and use as a normal Unifi Switch?
Yup their just won’t be any status lights as they removed the standard link and activity lights
I really like this switch with 4 2.5GB ports. Also the option with and without POE is great. This Nightrider Effect costs money and I think in 95% isn’t used.
The 50 bugs for the Rackmount is much to high in my opinion.
I think, I will buy one because of the in my opinion good home usability with the port combination. But I would like to not pay for this light games and to high priced rack mount.
… and I like your videos 👍🏻
I agree because you would may consider then just to buy the 24 pro max as I never have enough ports and it comes with 8 x 2.5gb
might as well just buy the 24 port not much difference in price when adding the rack ears...
But can it be managed within a IPv6-ony network?
This fits exactly what i need, only have two things 2.5g and can use others for u7 APs
2 things... for now ;-)
I like the line, I wish the Pro Max 16 could be powered by POE. That is the feature I see is missing.
For as clever as the wall mount adapter is, that power plug solution seems a big clunky.
$50 for the power supply mount. Its not included.
So they include the switch mounts but leave you to bodge the PSU mount or pay $50? Not great.
Still waiting for UK store to get stock
The 1st of April was long gone when this was recorded, guess Ubiquiti missed the memo. Would have preferred to see PoE++ in conjunction with port speeds that can actually support WiFi 7's real world bandwidth. Time for Ubiquiti to start getting ahead of the curve for a change. This is almost a step backwards. Just as the U7 Pro is nowhere near the caliber of a "Pro" AP. Just called it the "Pro" to charge more money. Wasting time and resources currently on this switch is comical.
The mount being off center sucks. Best to just buy the 24 port version
So it is called "Professional Max" but without DC power backup 🙃!?
Looks really cool.
Can etherlighting be turned off?
I would love to see a video about the XMG1915-10EP from Zyxel as it's a bit cheaper and has more 2.5 gig ports.
I would have thought the cat would have left the room what with you bombing it with packing material. Anyway, cool effect. I feel for you having to have only 1Gb in your house. I'm stuck with starlink at whatever the satellite is giving me at any given moment. Yeah, I do not expect to have any need for a gigabit switch anytime soon. I do have their ethernet add-on connected so at least I can be wired in my house. I am looking forward to getting the new Onn streaming gizmo from walmart, hopefully any day now.
I presume it doesn't fit in a 10" rack.
13” wide
Is it fanless ?
I'd love to see a Dream Machine in this form factor tbh. No HDD and external PSU, something that would sit between UDM Pro and UCG Ultra.
Would be handy to know about sound levels / cooling fans
Fanless
@@sitte24 That makes it more interesting as I run the network at a film studio complex.....silence is needed :-)
@@diceman199That’s why they went with a huge external power brick, I presume.
@@williamp6800 That was probably mainly about the box size. I can see a lab use for it where I am to test VLAN's as they are set up.