It's very interesting to revisit in hindsight... In my wholehearted honest opinion, the idea of hearing these two icons together whilst they could still really sing and play is something I'm glad happened rather than not, regardless of any constructive criticism... However DC is between songs shouldn't detract from his ability to sing them technically well and with conviction. The most tasteless thing I find is RP being negative and insultive whilst pretending he's got nothing to say. DC ain't a bad guy and he's certainly never been a bad singer. In 2023, we're a million miles from this kind of magic. That's the real tragedy. I love all involved. Always will.
My gawd, the “state” of “music” , today? …???….. utter , absolute, undeniable foretelling sign that Jesus is lacing up his sandals and preparing to come back. The level of complete embarrassment and shame is apparently lost on and over the heads of most people 35 and younger - especially Gen Z (God , please come back before they’re at the age of taking on important positions of influence, like politics etc.) I think I’m about as disgusted with modern “music” , and that industry, as I am with bloated global organizations (WHO , CDC, IMF, UN) and career politicians !!
You are right that Robert's bashing of DC is tasteless. It seemed excessive as if his management got the media involved in this tactic? Coverdale helped Unledded happen in more ways than people realize. Page and Plant had a weird relationship for sure. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Yes, it's an epic track like you said with some Stairway to Heaven chords there. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
"Coverdale Page" is a absolutely great album. Zero weak tracks. All killer, no filler! I understand that tastes differ, but it is strange to me to hear any criticism regarding this great partnership.
Hope you enjoyed my episode on the Making of Coverdale/Page, i love the record 100% Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Way better than I remember. Jimmy outrider was weak. And heartbreaking tour. Ok saw that. It front row. Page was in bad shape .. I thought. Live was decent. And Coverdale can’t act like plant. Nobody’s is cool like plant. Plant can stand there. Be cool. No problem. Coverdale talking between songs is ok all singers are different. I came from. Don’t speak between songs. But my friends said when I play out. I should talk. I said I never seen my hero. S talk Jeff beck page srv. Eddie just play. It’s all. Personal
I absolutely hate Feelin Hot tonight. Great riff but the lyrics and the way Coverdale sings it just ruin the song. Take a Look at Yourself is another skip track for me. The rest are solid.
Excellent video. It is important to note that while Robert was right that David was not the right vocalist for Zeppelin's songs, Coverdale brought a totally forgotten Jimmy out of oblivion. I remember that in those years Page was seen as an anachronistic musician compared to Steve Vai and other guitar heroes of the moment. I think Coverdale managed to put Page under musical pressure again and be the counterpart to inspire Jimmy compose excellent material again. I also remember that on the Page-Plant tour, Robert sang "Shake my tree". His performance was not even comparable to that of Coverdale. The conlusion was that their styles were so different that it wasn't possible for one to sing the other's songs.
Yes, Robert was right, and most people won't admit this, i may be a fan, but i am not blinded to see this. Glad you mentioned it. I agree Coverdale put positive pressure on Jimmy. David Coverdale has my respects in HIS own planet, glad he stopped singing Zeppelin tunes right? hehe. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'm sure Coverdale could have found some other easier Zeppelin songs to sing, but Jimmy's gotta be able to bring it to the stage also. 3 or 4 songs from their past each isn;t a huge problem, when they have 1 album and 8 songs to work with, of course past songs came into the show, 8 songs would be a very short show.
9:00 - I can't tell anything is off. Coverdale sounds great from what I can tell from the audio. He's hitting every note, and if you look at Coverdale's voice career, that's right at the top of his range. He didn't used to sing that high until around the 1980's. The singer he was on BURN, was long gone. You got to give him credit, cuz he is doing justice to the song. He could probably hit it better than Plant could in 1993.
Coverdale is a great singer, don't think otherwise. Thing is, the set list for these shows could have been SO MUCH Better. Had they toured and competed against the big rock and roll acts, more work was needed.
Yes he did awesome here. Remember boot legs are great. For a glimpse. But usually. 90 percent bad. Quality. Cheap tape deck in a bad spot ,Large hall. Is not what it really sounds like. I ve been to concert sound great. But hear a bootleg of that concert Sounds awful. Live Bass will over power a little microphone and distort it .
There is no distortion in David's poor phrasing of Kashmir. As a musician and composer trust me i go for the song first,i admire Coverdale's work, here..it just didn't work.
As usual Jose you have nailed it. Revisiting Coverdale Page as I have throughout your musical recanting journey. Has given me an excuse to replay all of this material. My vinyl has long been sold off, so its mainly cd and a few cassettes. After a few plays I was done with Coverdale Page, its the best Jimmy had played for years but not a great album. The live clips you showed were how I had had heard the gigs went down in Japan. When asked in one interview, Jimmy said there was too much swearing! DC can be an acquired taste. I saw him in Whitesnake circa 1980 he was good, but can be deemed a bit of a shouter. Glenn Hughes was a perfect fit for him and kept his vocal under stretched. In 1993 I was in Spain, Robert headlined the Xacobeo Festival. I did not go but the album was all over the radio and TV. Great memories for me. 29 Palms certainly got some air time. I think along with The Mighty Rearranger, Fate of Nations is his finest work, but that's just my honest opinion. DC obviously got under his skin and made him revisit Zeppelin, which gave another generation a chance to see a sort of Led Zeppelin. Keep it up JCM its outstanding work.
Hey Paul, an excuse to play C/P is always a good thing. I blasted it the other day in the car on my way to the store, killer album. So cool you saw the Xacobeo Festival, Plant had a GREAT band, Francis Dunnery was a virtuoso guitarist. I believe Fate of Nations is among his best work, Mighty Rearranger kicks a$$ too. His best for me is Principle of Moments. Now and Zen has some dated sounding parts i don't like. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
DC sounds eloquent and almost speaks the Queens (now King's) English - almost like BBC folks and Tom Baker. The one blaring exception is he drops a lot of F-bombs as well as other profane words. It was quite jarring the first few times I heard it - hearing potty mouth expletives with what is usually a very eloquent and proper accent. His expletives would be more comfortable with a Cockney twang, but that wouldn't be David Coverdale. LOL.
Plant’s disrespect for a former Deep Purple singer really rubs me the wrong way. What would Plant have said about Ian Gillian or Glenn Hughes? I’ll criticize Coverdale on some things, but for Plant to do it so vocally, at that time, seems extremely petty to me. Besides, Coverdale’s voice was really strong at this time. Both Plant and Coverdale are baritones. Coverdale, a lower baritone. Despite that, Coverdale’s range was superior to Plant’s at this time. You’re right, JCM. They should have played some Deep Purple. I also agree that his stage banter was unfortunate.
The irony here, was that Robert Plant attended Deep Purple's 1975 California Rehearsals with TOMMY BOLIN as a spectator when Zeppelin was staying over in Malibu. I think the whole beef started once Coverdale got 1987 RICH. Thanks for your comment Steve, it's spot on!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesno incorrect he turned up to deep purple in New York celebration party, and John Bonham turned up at the radio music hall concert and insulted Tommy Bolin on stage.
C/P ended because they failed three times to successfully launch a US tour and the album quickly sank from the charts. Jimmy was keen to play anywhere, but David insisted on an arena tour. It was the height of the grunge music era and that level of demand for tickets just wasn't there. Everyone points to the initial chart success of the album, but what they overlook is that after a few weeks it dropped like a rock. In other words, everyone who wanted it went out and got it. They did not gain new listeners despite Geffen spending a fortune to promote the album. In October 1993, Robert invited Jimmy to collaborate on what became the Unledded project, and that sealed the fate of C/P. The label put the Japan tour together to try to recoup on their investment and as a consolation to C/P, who still wanted an opportunity to perform the material live. However, Jimmy knew before it began that the end of the tour would also be the end of C/P. He probably told David, though I can't say for sure.
You're the best Kevin, thank you so much. This project took off last year and it keeps going thanks to my dear community. Your comment means a lot man!
It’s BY FAR the most in depth, interesting Led Zeppelin related stuff EVER made. TH-cam or otherwise. There’s a thousand 2nd places. JCM knows more than me re: LZ that’s why it’s so fun for me.
I don't really see Jimmy as slumming it with Still of the Night. John Sykes was a super talented guitarist and honestly his work with Whitesnake and Blue Murder is far more interesting than Jimmy's on Outrider. If anything, he was slumming it more by playing the Black Crowes songs, which I mostly like but feel have pretty generic guitar parts. I don't think Jimmy really had the kind of ego to worry about that so much as he was worried about his chances of getting back together with Robert. And I think it's worse when artists refuse to play the songs the fans are hoping to see. Such as The Firm not doing any Bad Company or Led Zep tunes.
The Firm not doing Bad Company was a big dissapointment, you're right! Paul Rodgers had some nerve not to do that right? lol. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Many years ago my childhood friend and I got together again to relive some of the Zeppelin magic. We found a bootleg store in NYC and got the the Coverdale/Page Nagoya boot on VHS. Put it on and my personal reaction was "Where is the great Jimmy Page?" His playing felt like day-old stale bread. My friend had a different reaction and kept imitating Coverdale going, "Ello Nagoya!" Even now, all these years later, when something sucks my friend still goes "Ellow Nagoya!"
Hahaha Ello Nagoya, his comment on what seems to be him asking the audience if their testicles are doing well? I facepalmed so much watching the footage lol. So cool you guys kept this inside joke, its what makes friendships valuable. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Your videos are totally brilliant my friend! Your style and format really is unique and I think you've created a definitive series! @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
the more I learn about everything post Zep the more it reinforces my feeling that the public and the band members all would have been better off had Zep just taken a break for a couple years and then put an album out.
Great work as always Jose! I have always struggled with the reunion concept and Led Zeppelin in the 90s. Following John's passing, on one hand I would have loved more shows like the O2 to get the chance to see them live and perhaps an album or two of new work. However their body of work before John's passing was, is and will always remain a staggering accomplishment. So at the risk of diminishing and putting out stuff that is not up to par perhaps the decision to work separately with collective select contribution was for the better of their legacy. Thank you again
Yes, i share your opinion 100%. Led Zeppelin's body of work is honored by tribute acts like the great Jimmy Sakurai for example with the advantage of not being the actual surviving members you knokw? For them it's a different route in which i think only Jones had the actual freedom to present it in a very good way. For Page and Plant though, it was the world on their shoulders. Wisdom and Money are not best friends past the gates of fame! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for 7.
Funny how the narrator says the touring was not great, then plays the clip of Jimmy leading into the solo of Rock and Roll and absolutely killing it. 🤣
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Cheers mate. Yeah, I get your point, and that's how I understood it was as well from other sources, it was just funny to say that and then play Jimmy killing it.
You can tell Jimmy was excited to return to Japan. He even did the "Jump"! Talk about energy. I am puzzled though how Don't leave me this way lacked some of the inspiration from the Studio version.
Sorry I feel the narrator is to down on everything,,, and doesn’t know the difference or understand between a live show from a studio released record!!! I thought it was all great,,,, except for the narrator.
I personally like the Coverdale/Page album, and I was disappointed that the tour never came to America. I would have loved to see this. As far as how Coverdale speaks to the audience is concerned, as someone who has seen Whitesnake in 1984 and 1987, he's always been like this. To expect him to be like Robert Plant is unreasonable and unrealistic.
I saw Whitesnake in 2011, forgot to mention this on the video. I didn't want him to be Plant, just show the level of respect Jimmy Page and his projects have always showed the audience, specially Japan, go check Friends at Hiroshima...Plant's words to the crowd speak volumes of RESPECT. Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Right Kellie? It's like hey Robert, what about THE Fate of Nations? Maybe check out YOUR own lyrics and carry on with YOUR project. Kellie THANK YOU so much for tuning in to these. Episode 7 will hopefully come this week :)
The whole project took to long to complete and the management clearly didn’t have a clue how to make this as big as it should have been. It’s still the best thing Jimmy Page has recorded since “ Presence” .
Yeah, management was directionless, it's almost as if the powers that be orchestrated this to a perfect timing for Page and Plant to get back together, like in high school hehe. It is Jimmy's best since Presence, i agree 100%. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I'm happy to see someone else giving Presence some love. For me, it is the zenith of Zep's career, an absolute masterpiece. Tea for One replaced No Quarter as my favorite LZ song.
Wow! Lots to unpack here. Absolutely excellent production and content. We’ll done as always Jose.❤ 2 episodes!!! Nice!!! Love it!!!! I love your running order for the box set. I’m setting it on my zep playlist. Excellent order. I like it. I didn’t know Guy Pratt was their bassist. I love Guy from Floyd and Gilmore. The Coverdale/Page live set list seems exhausting! Lots of of hard tunes to perform. It’s a heavy load. I AM HOLDING MY SEAT FOR UNLEADED!!!!!😮
Not sure i can 2 episodes per weekend, but for this 1993 part of the story i had to. So glad to read you enjoyed these. Let me know how Boxed Set 2 sounds like with the proposed running order. Guy's work with Floyd was superb, not sure he was the right guy (pun intended) for Page. Jimmy needs more presence i guess, Pratt is more of a darker sound i believe. Man...Unledded is staring at me "can you handle this"? lol. Hope i live up to the expectations! Stay Safe Matt!
Glad you enjoyed it! I take my time to get the historic events and feel for the story. This is a labor of admiration for their works and i'm happy it shows! Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
An iconic 90s line if there was ever one in the Led Zeppelin universe. I'm pretty sure, if Bonzo was alive he'd tease Robert over some of his antics you know? Even if the band parted ways. A reunion would not have taken SO LONG had Bonham been with us! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for 7.
Absolutely unreal!!! Always new, refreshing, more difficult than the last , and then some.....I can't take my eyes away ( except to find another one of y'alls videos ) THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!!!❤❤
Thank you so much for watching! Editing this 1990s series was a great challenge, hope you go all the way till the end! Lot's of highlights in this decade!
I bought it on CD when it was new, and still have it. Its a fantastic album and I REALLY looked forward to seeing it performed, and was depressed I never got to. However, I AM convinced this project is what made hard-headed Robert Plant jealous and caused the Plant and Page project, which I did see live (twice).
my story exactly to the T Bro !!! don't get me wrong here, Zeppelin the greatest rock band all time !!! but when plant tried shake my tree, not even close
Let's not forget, before he was a session's Guitarist, Jimmy was in Neil Christian's Crusaders. He got really bad sick on the road and came back to London to get well and afterward took up session work. I don't care what anyone says, he is the Greatest Hard Rock Guitarist. I was fortunate enough to have seen Zeppelin live 176 times and Page/Plant an even 100 times. They'll never be another like those two Ever Again!!! This reminds me, I actually have a CP video I downloaded awhile back but haven't gave a look see yet; too busy listening to Zeppelin shows. But I will check it out tomorrow. Thanks man. Edit : The Japanese still revere Jimmy & Led Zeppelin to this day. Just ask Marcia S. I saw she has commented on several of your videos. We always heard back in the day that the reason Zeppelin never played Japan after '72 was that the Emperor banned them because of the Cult like following of the Japanese youth( the Emperor's words, not mine)but I wonder if that was really true. I know I have revered Page & Led Zeppelin since 1969 when my brother came home on Jan 6th, 1969 from Los Angeles and he told me he had seen this fantastic new band at the Whiskey A Go-Go the night before, and that he heard they had an album being dropped on Jan. 12th. We both went to the record shop on that day, brought it home, and proceeded to listen to it 3 times in a row as loud as we could get away with without blowing the speakers out!!! I have listened to Zeppelin every day since. I can be in the worst mood, and 2 min. or so have a smile on my face and can't remember why I was upset, mad or bummed. Any track, it doesn't matter. Now that, to me, a life-long self taught Guitarist(thanks to Jimmy)is the true magick of great music. As far as lyrics, all I have to point to are Robert's lyrics to Kashmir & Achilles Last Stand, and the sheer fun of Dancing Days, to the seriousness of the Iconic No Quarter. Sorry, but for me, nobody comes close to Led Zeppelin. I enjoyed the reworkings of some of the tunes in Unledded/No Quarter, and I love Wonderful One, my and a special someone's ❤️ 'song'. I have always dreamed of them both sitting down with Gibson J-200s and Robert a Marine Band harmonica, and letting tape roll while they worked out blues/love(lust)tunes. Lololol, oh lordy I'm getting old. Rock On, brothers and sisters, and don't ever Stop!!! LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
I watched the two episodes in sequence so I left my opinion on the other episode. Impeccable research, production and presentation as always Sensei. Thanks 😊
A classic Pageism I think is the terminology. He knew exactly what buttons to press with Robert's ego, and so he got what he wanted with their reunion. That Coverdale/Page only did this token Tour of Japan, something was definitely up..
Broadway the Hard Way as Frank Zappa said hehe. Yeah man, David really suffered his way through Kashmir and In My Time of Dying. I tried to forgive him...but no. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I love Coverdale-Page (and seen Whitesnake live multiple times), and their setlist is bonkers cool on paper ... but if it was me I would have done an even balance of Zep and Whitesnake, and then thrown in a medley of Burn and Smoke On the Water. Seeing Jimmy handle those two might be cool.
I don't think you'd ever see Page playing Deep Purple. That would be an uncomfortable affiliation. Almost as weird as hearing Coverdale sing Kashmir, which to me, isn't great. I think Jimmy could have handled those Purple songs, but would be weird to have him play that stuff and I'm sure he felt the same if ever it was considered.
It’s pretty obvious that Plat’s distaste for Coverdale is out of jealousy. When the 1987 album came out, Whitesnake was absolutely EVERYWHERE! You couldn’t turn on mtv or turn on the radio without hearing one of Snake’s songs. And this band needed a time to gel as a band, which they weren’t afforded
1987 was a smash hit absolutely, to good and bad, Coverdale became a star in ways he never thought he would. I do think Robert had some respect for the Deep Purple era with David you know? Thank you so much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Thanks JCM for always going above and beyond with great detail!!!🔥🔥❤️ This episode completely reminded me of how AMAZING Robert Plant was and is!!! Can’t wait till the next episode!!! Thanks again sir!!!!
Robert Plant was rattled by this collaboration. I was absolutely gutted that no further shows took place after the Japanese tour. That being said it was great to see Jimmy reunited with Robert the following year. Personally I think there would have a huge demand in the U.S., U.K. & Europe to see their show bearing in mind that the Coverdale/Page album sold in excess of a million copies.
Yes, they were better off touring those markets, as you said, the album did sell, i just would have changed the "covers" they did, there was SO much stuff to choose from, ugh hehe. Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
They actually had a planned US tour and were selling tickets for that tour which was supposed to start in late January 94'. Problem was they were not selling enough tickets and management wanted to change the venues to smaller venues of around 5,000-15,000 people. Page essentially saw the writing on the wall, realized grunge had taken over, and figured a Zep reunion of sorts was the better money making option so the tour was cancelled and Page rang up old Robert.
Robert has been so full of himself always complaining he can’t do Zeppelin anymore and yet he still does horrible live versions of Zep tunes slowed down and tuned down so he can try and sing them. The Page Plant tours I wouldn’t go and it was just like I feared they sounded like a karaoke version of what Zeppelin was and Walking Into Clarksdale was the worst collaboration ever. I loved Zeppelin and was a massive fan of Bohnam as most drummers are. The closest I came to seeing them live was going to be the 80-81 tour. I like your take on all things Zeppelin,great job
They tried three times to launch a US tour in 1993 but failed as ticket sales were sluggish in every market. It was the height of the Grunge music era.
Man i am obssesed with NORTHWINDS, got it on my phone as a low quality full mp3 track...can't wait to get my hands on the CD and maybe Vinyl. It's an incredible album. Track 4 is a gem. Played it to a friend the other day and i was like, guess who, he couldn't believe his ears! And he is a Whitesnake fan! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Haha yeah, i wanted to make an hour long episode but then i thought, the 1993 story has two stories, the Coverdale-Plant beef, and then the Japanese Swan Song on stage. So i chopped them up and came up with this. I don't think i can make 2 per week, that'd be quite intense but...the 1990s is providing a great foreground to go into deep dives of the Zeppelin albums! Thank YOU so much Jeremy for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I bought both of the albums. And being a kid in the 90s and haven’t actually experienced Led Zep in their glory days. I found myself enjoying the Coverdale/Page more, fate of nation was solid but I was just more glad to hear Page’s new music at that time.
I love your documentaries, you really tell a lot of interesting stories. Your passion is absolute here, your commitment and love for Led Zep and Jimmy is 100% here. The only thing I would like you to work on is the speed of pronunciation, because even with subtitles, unfortunately, it's easy to miss a lot. Thanks a lot for your work, can't wait for more episodes.
Hey man thanks so much for tuning in! I appreciate it :) As for the pronunciation it's a learning curve for sure, it's the most tedious part of the process, sometimes it is tiring, i am doing the best i can, maybe it gets too passionate sometimes :)
Guitar Blanket that sounds like a great idea, i am thinking of doing a series of episodes on Jimmy's technique. What would you like to see on an episode on his acoustic work?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories oh men let's start with his adventures with Italian Eko guitars, how he found them. Also wheb he switched to Harmony Sovereign. Which acoustic tunes he recorded with what model and also how he finally found Martin d28. I love his sound on Rain Song live with Robert 1994 in London. So I guess it could be an episode on how Jimmy found at last his grail d28 finishing with his personal model made for him.
@@adamwatson6916 I agree. It has nothing to do with "perfect pitch", which I certainly don't have, but I think songs sound kind of sluggish when they're downtuned, and a lot of people can hear that. That's my quibble with Celebration Day. But Robert is, after all, human.
Coverdale Page album is amazing or most of it. Plants album Fate of nations is also good, and a return to some very Zeppelin sounds, but not quite as hard hitting as CP. Page did something here that topped almost everything that had been going on with grunge and the early stages of alternative rock, basically he showed who's boss in guitar.
It topped grunge, YES, his guitar man...i want to do a video on his guitar work here, it's criminally underrated damn it! lol Thank you very much for watching. Stay tuned for Number 7!
I still listen to this album - and on CD since Spotify removed it. I'd been a fan of Coverdale since Purple. For some reason, most USA people think he magically appeared in 1987, not realizing his history. It might because he's been the 2nd lead singer a few times in mega groups. Even today, he still has a very wonderful voice. The silver lining is that when Whitesnake comes to town, the tickets are below $100 as opposed to groups like the Stones where they are more than 5x higher. Coverdale kind of plays into the USA stereotype at his USA shows - by not playing anything pre-1987. Ain't No Love in The Heart of the City - never heard in any USA show I've attended by him.
Very interesting points you address here. This is my perception too of his US shows, like Pre 1984 Whitesnake never happened. Do you think he does not want to pay royalties to his former mates? Marsden, Moody, etc? I saw him in 2011; great show! Incredible the Stones charge 5x..considering their chops you know? I wouldnt pay that. It's a shame they removed C/P from Spotify. But...its more profitable i guess, their royalty rates are laughable.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I think it's more playing into USA expectations. I was in HS in the late 70s in London - two stops away from Hammersmiths. Both Rainbow and Snake were well respected by proto-metal HS rockers. Punk and New Wave (& New Romantic) were permeating the youths music tastes too. This was just as Lord and Paice joined Coverdale and Glover joined Blackmore. Both groups were releasing music with very similar riffs and beats. I returned to the US and no one heard of Whitesnake or Rainbow. I was actually living on Long Island at the 90s. My guitar tech told me he also did work for Blackmore - which I thought was BS. Much later, I did learn Blackmore was and still is living there a few miles from me LOL. It wasn't until late in college in the 80s when all of sudden it seemed the metal fans suddenly heard of Whitesnake and believed they came out of nowhere. Also on these fans radar was Kingdom Come's debut album. When I would explain this was post-Purple, no one seemed to care - a few years earlier Perfect Strangers came out. Only one person I knew was aware of it - and he was from Scotland. It was as-if Whitesnake came out of nowhere and didn't exist before. USA did the same thing with the Bee Gees in the 70s - latched onto their dance music and didn't realize they had existed since around the same time Purple started. I loved the Purple Album when it came out (also pulled from Spotify today - had to buy that import CD from Europe!) and was excited to hear Coverdale finally doing Burn and Might Just Save Your Life live in the USA. But no such luck. He played mostly 1987-1989 stuff, ignored the Purple stuff and pre-87, but also played some stuff from later. Everyone was singing along. It was a full concert. Hey played exactly what the audience wanted to hear and groove with. I doubt anyone but me was living in London in the 80s. If I want to hear these favorites of mine live - it would seem I'm relegated to streaming platforms - which is a dream in of itself compared to before. Thanks for the videos.
It was nice when Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach joined the band in the 00s. Whitesnake brought back a lot of pre 1987 tracks. Even went as far back as dusting off Burn/Stormbringer from his Purple days. Coverdale Page does exist on spotify, it's just been uploaded on some random channel as a single track podcast episode. But it's the full length album.
Man, no chance I woulda seen that C/P live stuff had you not included it here. Likely will never listen to it again. You have my sympathy for sitting thru it to make this episode. Nice work in this one as usual....see ya soon!
Sympathy for sitting thru lol, Dave i HAD nightmares on this. I was tired as hell listening to these shows, trying to find a decent Kashmir vocal take...ugh. Jimmy Page did play some FINE and insane guitar fireworks here! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I personally loved the Coverdale Page album and was hoping to see it live that year but it was just not to be. As for the stage banter, everytime I've seen Whitesnake that's just how David interacts with the audience, good natured insults and all, I enjoy it. I also enjoyed Plant's Fate Of Nations, his last solo album I really loved. 1993 gave us lots of great music.
I saw Whitesnake live, and enjoyed David's banter in that context, he asked the crowd many times if we where having a good time and "Here's a SONG FORYA". It rocked 100%, but just don't take that to the legacy of Led Zeppelin. I'm pretty sure Bonzo would have told David to keep it quiet lol.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesbut Page is not Led Zeppelin while Coverdale is Whitesnake (for the most part), this is not Led Zeppelin yet Coverdale & Page. Bringing into them Whitesnake and Led Zeppelin legacy is pointless. This is just two great artists collaborating & having fun, anything else and adding other context to it is just missing the point of it. Media & Plant did the same wrong doing. Project probably would have lasted and toured worldwide if other people stopped thinking, comparing, jealousy etc. ego superficial stuff, but that's the life of being a rose...
I'm so glad you made this video !!! My thoughts have changed, and after seeing the CP performances from Japan, I know now, that it is better that that was not fulfilled in the US. Not being a Whitesnake fan, I did not know how bombastic Coverdale was on stage. I didn't like his constant profanity either. DC thinks he's the Grand Marshall of the Circus. I was basing my desire to see CP live on what I heard on their album. But now, after all these years, I can put that unfulfilled desire to rest. I have seen LZ in the 70's, and Page, and Plant, in the 80's, and Page & Plant in the 90's. Nothing that has come since LZ has ever approached or eclipsed the Magic of JP, RP, JPJ, & JB together. That said, the 2007 O2 concert did approach the magic of LZ better than anything, so I am grateful for that. And grateful that the world could finally get to hear the majesty of "Kashmir" live in high audio fidelity.
Right? It's like the guy who recorded the album just wasn't there. Page won't ever say this on record i'm sure, but i bet he felt like "WTF David". Yes, 2007 's Kashmir was a TRIUMPHANT moment, what a version...and with Jason Bonham made sense :) A US TOUR of Coverdale/Page would have been ridiculed in MTV...i'm 100% sure. And then what happens? Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@ArcofNeptune I was kid at the time so I couldn’t attend the gig but my dad, uncle and all their friends, all Zeppelin fans, were bored with DC. They said “we miss Plant, where the hell did Page get this guy?” 😂
I remember having a bootleg of Coverdale/Page Osaka..I watched it with my friends before we went to Page/Plant 1995 Milwaukee show. I could go without Coverdale swearing? Robert never would go there. The Osaka show had its moments..Page played well. I wish they would of played Burn instead of Kashmir.
HOW' YA DOING OSAKAAAA haha. I know Jimmy, Coverdale's screaming is quite the experience...i had nightmares! BURN with Jimmy on guitar, now that would have been a historic moment! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Have to say I prefer Fate of Nations over the Coverdale/Page album. There is a sense that Plant was maturing. Love the production and songwriting on that album. As for Coverdale, I loved his work in Deep Purple but his Whitesnake work didn’t really connect with me except for their cover of Ain’t no love in the heart of the city which sounds like something that could have been on Come Taste the Band. I have to agree that songs like Mistreated and Soldier of Fortune would have worked well with Page. To be honest his live collaboration with the Black Crows worked much better. That’s a great live album.
Fair enough, there's much diversity in Fate of Nations. I don't hate the album, NOT AT ALL. Just today i listened to Greatest Gift, a fantastic track! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Thank you very much FM! The Fonz, i wanted to provide a different perspective similar to how we remember visuals in our mind and dreams! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I prefer Coverdale with British Whitesnake, Walking in the Shadow of the Blues, Love Hunter, Gambler etc. If he'd just kept the Moody & Marsden writing partnership, the success of the American Whitesnake would have lasted much longer..
I love all the Whitesnake albums pre-Whitesnake album. David made a huge mistake getting rid of John Sykes then pretending to be a heavy metal singer and then destroying his voice.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Amazing album! Back in the day when we didn't have internet, the pre- Slide It In albums were so difficult to come across in North America. Northwinds was a lucky find back then.
I had tickets to the CP show in Houston Texas in 93 but that concert was cancelled and was never rebooked so I never had the pleasure of seeing them perform live
Great video. I don’t dislike Coverdale but Page and Coverdale were the most unhinged pairing. Zero stage chemistry. Coverdale seemed to have no understanding of who Page is on stage and expectations. He was still stuck in glam rock when the world had moved on.
They were a good match. Jimmy can play with any good singer. Can't help it if Coverdale was a bit like Plant. Many bands were influenced by Zep and have to admit The Still of The Night is ass kicking. Even with the No Quarter parts in the song it does rock. The Firm had some real good tunes too.
Still of the Night is an a$$kicking song. I enjoy it from time to time. Thing is, the set list could have been better you know? Imagine had they done Burn!! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
From watching the interviews at the time, Coverdale seems to imply that it was Page that was composing tunes where DC would have to sing in "the stratosphere". Part of the interview has Page actually defending Coverdale for sounding like Plant - stating they were all a part of the Holy Trinity and there at the same time. No one seems to accuse Sabbath of sounding like Purple or Zep - even when Gillian and Hughes both joined Sabbath as singers on different occasions (well they didn't, it was the record companies that rebranded their efforts LOL). Coverdale even states in interviews that he started with Purple. But, most of us in the USA don't know about his history and all we know is he appeared in 1987 with Still of the Night - and we ignore the history. However, I know better LOL.
Gotta give credit to David Coverdale for giving the Zepplin songs a go, while not the worst, even though Roberts a great vocalist, I can't imagine him singing Whitesnake songs. I've seen Whitesnake live, and that's just how David talked to the audience. I would've gone to see Coverdale/Page, if the opportunity arose at the time. But saying that, I also like Fate of Nations too. One man's meat, is another man's gravy.
Having seen live both Robert Plant and Whitesnake (multiple times), agreed. David and Robert have hugely different stage personas. Robert is cool. David is cocky and crude.
Page and Plant actually had "Shake My Tree" in their set list after this project. I can't find any interview anywhere where Plant gives his thoughts on having to sing that Coverdale/Page song in their concerts. However, evidence that Page and Plant did Shake My Tree in their sets is easily found on TH-cam.
The Coverdale/Page songs at these concerts are absolutely amazing! You nailed it JCM. They needed a 2nd album. Had they toured in support of two albums instead of just one, it would have been really great. And I agree, the Zep songs are not necessary. That's what was so cool about The Firm,... Page and Rodgers did not rely on stuff from previous bands, it was all new and all real. That's why The Firm will always be the best post-Zep group, hands down, nothing else comes close. Both Firm albums were brilliant. But it would have been nice to have another Coverdale/Page album, and for that matter, a 3rd Firm album was always on my wish-list. But I'm glad Coverdale/Page did these shows. They were both in top form. Two really amazing talents together, in these rare performances, captured for just a brief moment in time. It was special! It's rock and roll history and it was great!
Yeah, The Firm has a special energy that i think after rewatching these, made me value their 80s stuff so much more. I don't necessary like Paul Rodgers who can sometimes feel a bit bland and a bit limited in the styles he chooses to sing BUT...i give them the fact that they Wrote new material and toured. That's brave and Refreshing. And yes, having these historical documents allows us to have this conversation so we should be grateful! Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Two of my absolute favorites together. But wow, that was just hard to watch. I loved that album and played it all summer. Always wondered why they didn't tour or make another album. Now this explains it. They had no chemistry together on stage. Hard to believe.
It is hard to watch...for me editing this, it was cringe after cringe. Some things are not meant to happen! This is like a "power couple" that had bad chemistry outside of "cool instagram pics" lol.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I left a comment to this effect elsewhere, but I wanted to run it by you as well; Coverdale's "style", while unique and impressive in its own right, is incredibly inorganic and very, very mechanically exacting. It has three incredibly precise "modes" that David, in his prime, managed to meld together with great effort, if at all. It was not suited to just jumping in and having fun singing a song. He had to try and figure out how to adapt his highly affected, incredibly demanding singing to each part of any song he was asked to sing, and he clearly found that a challenge. I assume that's why he hardly ever did covers. His own songs were, of course, automatically tailored to what came easily to him. Great video, by the way!!👍👍👍
I’m starting to not like plant as much after watching some of his interviews , I think the Coverdale page album is awesome and preferred it much more than fare of nations
It's been quite a discovery for me too man, trust me. I actually had tickets to see him this year, but because of my former job i couldn't go. Trust me, i don't regret it...C/P is awesome, yes! I heard it today, AGAIN hehe. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I think you were a little harsh on the them. The video was very bad quality as the sound. I suggest you listen to a few of the bootlegs of these shows which sound way better than this video and audio recording. I totally like this album a lot better than Walking into Clarksdale. It has more punch and lets Jimmy do what he does best. Plant can be very arrogant and self absosrbed at times. He did not invent the front man in Rock N Roll and everything is up for grabs.
Trust me i went through my archive recordings, i dug deep and even had nightmares. I looked for the BEST versions, i tried to find GOLD, there was but the overall picture painted a different story. Coverdale Page WAS A GREAT album, the Japanese shows not so much. As a musician and composer i have a very open mind for gigs and versions, but i don't believe the set list for this small tour was the best, they had SO MUCH to choose from. I agree Plant is not Elvis :) Thank YOU so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I am neither a musician or composer, but I know what music I like. I have been a Led Zeppelin fan since 1972 and my favorite has been and always will be Jimmy Page. His playing touches me inside like no guitarist ever. I feel like he truly knows who I am in a sense.Did you listen to Coverdale/Page First and Last? I always enjoy your channel it reminds me of some things that I have forgotten over time or did not know.
But Plant decides to open Fate of Nations with Calling to You which sounds like Kashmir meets Whole Lotta Love hehe. Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
I reckon Coverdale sounds great on those Zep songs. Hard to imagine anyone else pulling them off at that stage. Some Deep Purple would have been great.
I can think of other singers back then that would have performed these Zeppelin numbers better....i have great admiration for Coverdale, it's just that it didn't grow from listening to him attempt Zepp tunes but let's take for example MISTREATED live at Cal Jam 1974:) Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Quite an image right Eric? And also Dweezil, the song of a legend and a madman in his own way, all legends in my book! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I preferred Fate of Nations to Coverdale Page but both are excellent albums. Coverdale's singing style grates on me after a while but Robert always sounds good. Also the guitar work on CP is goddamned amazing but overall song structure is much stronger on FoN.
I enjoyed your story from a Led Zeppelin perspective. You mentioned, that these weren't Whitesnake shows, but they weren't Led Zeppelin shows too. These were Coverdale / Page shows so you had to expect (and accept) things that made Jimmy and David famous. And the banter between the songs is one of these things. It was DC's 8th tour in Japan and at least half of the audience expected that. And it seems that it was ok for Jimmy too, he heard it in the rehearsals and probably would have said David that he shouldn't do that if he had found it unacceptable. Just my perspective, so thank you for that story nevertheless :-)
I liked David's banter when i saw Whitesnake live. As you said it wasnt a Whitesnake show so i think David should've taken a more relaxed approach. Just look at Jimmy playing Whitesnake, he is very respectful of David's material :) With Page already knowing the project was off i don't think he would have told David anything in rehearsal. I like Coverdale's solo work and early Whitesnake + 2005 on. The partnership created one of the best albums from 1993. Thank YOU so much for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories And DC was very respectful of Jimmy's songs too. But you shouldn't expect Robert Plant between the songs during a Coverdale/Page show ;-)That's the main problem of the album and the shows. Too many people (and definitely the US press) expected a Led Zeppelin album with another singer.
Had they done other songs a different story. How i wish David sang stuff from Northwinds. All the takes of Kashmir from Japan were vocally shaky.. Imagine Jimmy playing Still of the Night like that. He did quite the opposite, rocking out Whitesnake numbers, made sense as the substance came from Zepp and Purple. Listen to the Riff for RAT BAT BLUE off Purple's 1973 album, there is a section quite similar to Still of the Night. I would have preferred David trying a Zeppelin B side rather than a key track like Kashmir!
Robert Plant is absolutely right! When I heard and watched the "Still Of The Night" video by Whitesnake I was shocked by the way David imitated Robert! It's beyond words!
Let's face it Coverdale Page was a good album, If that was Plant singing on that album ppl would talk about it more. I was a big Coverdale fan when he was with Purple and thought he was a hellove a singer, not better then Plant or Ian Gillian. I thought they all were great singers but I would give Plant a small edge just because I'm Jaded. If the story is correct that that material was written with Plant in mind but Plant declined to do it. He saw it was a good albums, how fast was it that when the Coverdale, Page album came out that the news of Page and Plant were doing an album together, less then 2 years. And the screwed Jones. They figured it would be easier to split the money 2 way instead of 3, why not John on bass, if not the best bassist in rock definitely in the top 5.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories YES!!! Me too. I hope it happens. It's funny because the original album I'm sure many here know, was not mixed as the band though and intended. So it will be very interesting to see the remix should it happen.
I *loved* this collaboration during this weird phase of post Zeppelin existence. Prob an unpopular opinion. Bought tickets to see them in Texas…and then the show was cancelled. Boo.
Agreed. They should have cut a second LP and then toured with more material. Some of the vey best song writing Page has done since LZ is on their LP. IMHO
Had they recorded a second album....the substance was there yes! Now i just hate Coverdale's take on Kashmir, feels like watching somebody hit a family a member. :( Thank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
Whitesnake Live at Glasgow '84 is worth a listen and Live at Tokyo is worth a glance. Whitesnake being produced by Mike Clink from GnR and both bands being signed to Geffen makes me think Whitesnake was Geffen's first attempt at a tough guy band, but then they changed them to hair metal for the 🤑. You can see 80s Axl borrows from Coverdale's '84 look even though Coverdale already changed his style around the time of the albums Appetite and 1987.
This is the first time seeing this footage. Although it’s not the best of either’s careers…it’s not bad. Certain Zep songs are good as are certain Whitesnake songs. I didn’t feel it was a train wreck by any means. Overall I enjoyed it.
DAVID'S STAGE ANTICS DONT BOTHER ME AT ALL . HES JUST BEING DAVID. IF HE MIMICKED ROBERTS BANTER AND STAGE MOVES, THEN HE WOULD BE ACCUSED OF JUST IMITATING ROBERT, AND THAT IS MUCH WORSE!
Fair enough, at least he could at least have imitated Robert's in tune vocals for Kashmir :) Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Oh dear, David Coverdale!! His interaction with their audiences in Japan was not a pretty sight! Whatever could Jimmy have thought listening to it all? Very insightful video - I learned a lot - thank you JCM.
For me the main let down of the Coverdale/Page album is the drum sound - it’s incredibly dated to that period. Denny is a great drummer but this isn’t his best moment and I was surprised Jimmy allowed that sound.
Yes, the drum sound sucked, plain and simple. And Denny is a great drummer, absolutely. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Coverdale. Coverdale. I never did quite get Coverdale. I wanted to like his vocals; he had range, power, "that sound," but there was something a bit sloppy about him, always a little laggy, always a bit behind, always hunting for a note, and too reliant on slow, wide, vibrato. He starts off aiming for a wide target, then adjusts as he gets closer (sometimes missing the target completely). A bit Karaoke-ish, maybe. Or as you put it, that person you met at Karaoke that you might get lucky with ... these two shouldn't have gone home together, haha. I learned something I never knew before. Coverdale leaned heavily into falsetto to hit the high notes didn't he? His extreme discomfort in the mid to higher mid of his range seems to indicate this, as well as the extremely drastic difference in timbre compared to his lower singing / speaking voice contrasted against when he's hitting the high notes. Say what you will about falsetto in male rock vocals up in the higher ranges; some might say it's cheating, some might think it's a perfectly valid way to hit those notes. Female opera singers rely on it heavily, but males do not. I think it works for male vocalists if there isn't a drastic change to the singer's sound below and above the breaking point, but Coverdale's voice changes an awful lot when he's low and high. It's not great. And wow, Coverdale's stage banter is eye-wateringly terrible. It is disrespectful, not at all in congruity with the material. It's rather tone-deaf, actually, which is something that after listening to all your clips, I'm beginning to wonder isn't true of Coverdale's overall singing. I can only guess there were many takes, and heavy splicing and editing, for his vocals in the studio. The stuff on albums makes him sound much better than he sounds live, and there's usually a reason for that. Coverdale is a bit of a circus act, to me, a bear on a unicycle. While you're amazed the bear can ride the unicycle (Coverdale did hit the notes that had been eluding Plant since the early 70s after all), the bear gets no points for style, grace, or finesse. Plant's comments about, and reaction to, the collaboration between Page and Coverdale do come across as a bit crass (almost acting like Page might be cheating on him), but he was not wrong. He may have been coming at it from a mean-spirited place, but that doesn't change the fact that Coverdale was not the right pairing for Page. Even Chris Farlowe worked better than Coverdale (Death Wish II), and that wasn't particularly great singing either. Thank you for another eye-opener of a video. I always learn very interesting things, and think very interesting thoughts, when I watch your work. Well done.
Coverdale did use falsetto, what 1987 did to his voice was great damage, and i think Whitesnake fans refuse to admit this. I'm glad my videos have made you think interesting thoughts, your comment is GOLD and very well written. David was disrespectful yeah, it was a nightmare for me to listen to his quotes. I like to think he was just nervous? And yes, as much as Plant bashed him, he HAD A POINT, i know this is a tough sell with most rock fans, so reading you mention it made me smile. I believe John Miles was the best on stage collaborator for Page. 1994 is around the corner, i am bracing myself to get into THAT!
I saw opening show at Us air arena in Maryland with Rusted Root they had a boy playing herdie gerdie that was awsome Plant said if crowd liked him they would take him on tour he got standing ovation one of my favorite shows ever
It was hard watching footage of these shows indeed. Given my age I was aware of all these events and chose to ignore it. Until Page and Plant can run and then I was happy
I ignored this footage for YEARS...a full decade at least from the first time i saw it, i was affected by it lol. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
What a voice Coverdale had/has still. I cant wait til ya get to the Black Crowes and Page, im waiting with baited breath. ;-) Thanks so much for these videos, this is AWESOME! :-)
Oh boy, JCM, you told this story so well! It's rather complicated to explain, but you did and I agree with what you said. I really like this album. Someone stole my copy of this album two days after I bought it lol. When I finally listened to it in its entirety, I appreciated it more than I could've the first time. I love Robert Plant, but he should have not spoken so proud🦚. That's when this album became underrated. I could be wrong. I guess it's not bad to be underrated but it should have sold more no matter what. I mean, how good was David Coverdale in Deep Purple and Whitesnake, not to mention Jimmy Page's session history and beyond?
Annette! How are you doing! I will be honest, editing this one was HARD, i was worried the script didn't make sense. But here we are! Robert's management took a hit with the Fate of Nations figures and having 25 musicians on it, well there goes your studio bill right? lol. Hope you enjoy my take on Unledded 1994!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories aw man, you know I'll enjoy it! I haven't commented on everything, but I do appreciate all the videos. It definitely is a labor of love to create documentaries, but it's necessary. Most people your age would've chosen an artist closer to their age and that's ok. You chose a personal favorite band to focus on who has such an amazing history both musical and personal that anyone else might feel overwhelmed to accomplish or receive negative criticism for. May you accomplish great things both musical and personal. I know I go over the top with my posts but I mean well!
Fair enough, Greatest Gift from Fate of Nations was on my playlist today, it's an incredible song. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
So how is the Coverdale / Page album compared to Walking into Clarksdale ? Which is better ? Hope there will be a video about this . Just got suscribed recently and all I can say the videos I've watched they are all great. Excellent material in all historic details, especially in XYZ episode.
That is a great topic, i am looking forward to diseecting their 1998 release. Thank YOU so much for subscribing, hope you enjoy the content here made by a Zeppelin fan for Zeppelin fans :) The 1981 episode was one i quite enjoyed, glad you dug it!
The Coverdale/Page songs sound fantastic live. A couple of the Zep songs and Whitesnake ones are good. Surprised they didn't do any Deep Purple songs. Oh well... What Is And What Should Never Be.
It's very interesting to revisit in hindsight... In my wholehearted honest opinion, the idea of hearing these two icons together whilst they could still really sing and play is something I'm glad happened rather than not, regardless of any constructive criticism... However DC is between songs shouldn't detract from his ability to sing them technically well and with conviction.
The most tasteless thing I find is RP being negative and insultive whilst pretending he's got nothing to say. DC ain't a bad guy and he's certainly never been a bad singer.
In 2023, we're a million miles from this kind of magic. That's the real tragedy.
I love all involved. Always will.
My gawd, the “state” of “music” , today? …???….. utter , absolute, undeniable foretelling sign that Jesus is lacing up his sandals and preparing to come back. The level of complete embarrassment and shame is apparently lost on and over the heads of most people 35 and younger - especially Gen Z (God , please come back before they’re at the age of taking on important positions of influence, like politics etc.)
I think I’m about as disgusted with modern “music” , and that industry, as I am with bloated global organizations (WHO , CDC, IMF, UN) and career politicians !!
Nobody holds an audience like DC does. Great performer and he looks like he’s having fun in these live videos.
You are right that Robert's bashing of DC is tasteless. It seemed excessive as if his management got the media involved in this tactic? Coverdale helped Unledded happen in more ways than people realize. Page and Plant had a weird relationship for sure. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I saw this tour in Birmingham and thought it was one hell of a show. At the time, Coverdale still had his voice, and Plant was slowly losing his.
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I love that album. Take Me For A little while is an epic track!
Yes, it's an epic track like you said with some Stairway to Heaven chords there. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
It's a shame because (in my opinion) Jimmy was in top form. The best since 1975. Rock'n'Roll solo sounds fantastic!
Hands down, Page was fluent and looked way more confident!
@@zahar8976 which were pretty much his last time playing until the firm
I was just coming here to say the same thing: I don't get how it didn't work - the vocals on Rock n'Roll sound amazing...
Agreed. Jimmy's playing in The Firm was also top notch.
@@Guvnor513 Yeah Coverdale did a great job on Rock & Roll. He's one of the best!
"Coverdale Page" is a absolutely great album. Zero weak tracks. All killer, no filler! I understand that tastes differ, but it is strange to me to hear any criticism regarding this great partnership.
Hope you enjoyed my episode on the Making of Coverdale/Page, i love the record 100% Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesthat record was a flop such a flop they couldn't even schedule a US tour
Way better than I remember. Jimmy outrider was weak. And heartbreaking tour. Ok saw that. It front row. Page was in bad shape .. I thought. Live was decent. And Coverdale can’t act like plant. Nobody’s is cool like plant. Plant can stand there. Be cool. No problem. Coverdale talking between songs is ok all singers are different. I came from. Don’t speak between songs. But my friends said when I play out. I should talk. I said I never seen my hero. S talk Jeff beck page srv. Eddie just play. It’s all. Personal
I totally agree.
I absolutely hate Feelin Hot tonight. Great riff but the lyrics and the way Coverdale sings it just ruin the song. Take a Look at Yourself is another skip track for me. The rest are solid.
Excellent video. It is important to note that while Robert was right that David was not the right vocalist for Zeppelin's songs, Coverdale brought a totally forgotten Jimmy out of oblivion. I remember that in those years Page was seen as an anachronistic musician compared to Steve Vai and other guitar heroes of the moment. I think Coverdale managed to put Page under musical pressure again and be the counterpart to inspire Jimmy compose excellent material again.
I also remember that on the Page-Plant tour, Robert sang "Shake my tree". His performance was not even comparable to that of Coverdale. The conlusion was that their styles were so different that it wasn't possible for one to sing the other's songs.
Yes, Robert was right, and most people won't admit this, i may be a fan, but i am not blinded to see this. Glad you mentioned it. I agree Coverdale put positive pressure on Jimmy. David Coverdale has my respects in HIS own planet, glad he stopped singing Zeppelin tunes right? hehe. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'm sure Coverdale could have found some other easier Zeppelin songs to sing, but Jimmy's gotta be able to bring it to the stage also. 3 or 4 songs from their past each isn;t a huge problem, when they have 1 album and 8 songs to work with, of course past songs came into the show, 8 songs would be a very short show.
Totally forgotten Jimmy!? Dude, really!!??
9:00 - I can't tell anything is off. Coverdale sounds great from what I can tell from the audio. He's hitting every note, and if you look at Coverdale's voice career, that's right at the top of his range. He didn't used to sing that high until around the 1980's. The singer he was on BURN, was long gone. You got to give him credit, cuz he is doing justice to the song. He could probably hit it better than Plant could in 1993.
Coverdale is a great singer, don't think otherwise. Thing is, the set list for these shows could have been SO MUCH Better. Had they toured and competed against the big rock and roll acts, more work was needed.
agreed ... sounds great to me
Yes he did awesome here. Remember boot legs are great. For a glimpse. But usually. 90 percent bad. Quality. Cheap tape deck in a bad spot ,Large hall. Is not what it really sounds like. I ve been to concert sound great. But hear a bootleg of that concert Sounds awful. Live Bass will over power a little microphone and distort it .
There is no distortion in David's poor phrasing of Kashmir. As a musician and composer trust me i go for the song first,i admire Coverdale's work, here..it just didn't work.
I think Coverdale sounds like he just smoked a carton of Marlboro.
As usual Jose you have nailed it. Revisiting Coverdale Page as I have throughout your musical recanting journey. Has given me an excuse to replay all of this material. My vinyl has long been sold off, so its mainly cd and a few cassettes. After a few plays I was done with Coverdale Page, its the best Jimmy had played for years but not a great album. The live clips you showed were how I had had heard the gigs went down in Japan. When asked in one interview, Jimmy said there was too much swearing! DC can be an acquired taste. I saw him in Whitesnake circa 1980 he was good, but can be deemed a bit of a shouter. Glenn Hughes was a perfect fit for him and kept his vocal under stretched. In 1993 I was in Spain, Robert headlined the Xacobeo Festival. I did not go but the album was all over the radio and TV. Great memories for me. 29 Palms certainly got some air time. I think along with The Mighty Rearranger, Fate of Nations is his finest work, but that's just my honest opinion. DC obviously got under his skin and made him revisit Zeppelin, which gave another generation a chance to see a sort of Led Zeppelin. Keep it up JCM its outstanding work.
Hey Paul, an excuse to play C/P is always a good thing. I blasted it the other day in the car on my way to the store, killer album. So cool you saw the Xacobeo Festival, Plant had a GREAT band, Francis Dunnery was a virtuoso guitarist. I believe Fate of Nations is among his best work, Mighty Rearranger kicks a$$ too. His best for me is Principle of Moments. Now and Zen has some dated sounding parts i don't like. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
DC sounds eloquent and almost speaks the Queens (now King's) English - almost like BBC folks and Tom Baker. The one blaring exception is he drops a lot of F-bombs as well as other profane words. It was quite jarring the first few times I heard it - hearing potty mouth expletives with what is usually a very eloquent and proper accent. His expletives would be more comfortable with a Cockney twang, but that wouldn't be David Coverdale. LOL.
yeh some songs were weak but guitar wise page was really hot
Plant’s disrespect for a former Deep Purple singer really rubs me the wrong way. What would Plant have said about Ian Gillian or Glenn Hughes? I’ll criticize Coverdale on some things, but for Plant to do it so vocally, at that time, seems extremely petty to me. Besides, Coverdale’s voice was really strong at this time. Both Plant and Coverdale are baritones. Coverdale, a lower baritone. Despite that, Coverdale’s range was superior to Plant’s at this time. You’re right, JCM. They should have played some Deep Purple. I also agree that his stage banter was unfortunate.
The irony here, was that Robert Plant attended Deep Purple's 1975 California Rehearsals with TOMMY BOLIN as a spectator when Zeppelin was staying over in Malibu. I think the whole beef started once Coverdale got 1987 RICH. Thanks for your comment Steve, it's spot on!
Plant isn't baritone
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesno incorrect he turned up to deep purple in New York celebration party, and John Bonham turned up at the radio music hall concert and insulted Tommy Bolin on stage.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-StoriesBut yes jealousy about the 87 album probably
I checked the Radio City Music Hall bootleg and found no traces of Bonham saying that. It's an urban myth it seems.
C/P ended because they failed three times to successfully launch a US tour and the album quickly sank from the charts. Jimmy was keen to play anywhere, but David insisted on an arena tour. It was the height of the grunge music era and that level of demand for tickets just wasn't there. Everyone points to the initial chart success of the album, but what they overlook is that after a few weeks it dropped like a rock. In other words, everyone who wanted it went out and got it. They did not gain new listeners despite Geffen spending a fortune to promote the album. In October 1993, Robert invited Jimmy to collaborate on what became the Unledded project, and that sealed the fate of C/P. The label put the Japan tour together to try to recoup on their investment and as a consolation to C/P, who still wanted an opportunity to perform the material live. However, Jimmy knew before it began that the end of the tour would also be the end of C/P. He probably told David, though I can't say for sure.
Are you Steve Zoso? :) The famous Zepp Tribute guitarist? What an honor!
As a self proclaimed Zeppelin fanatic, I truly believe this is the best channel on TH-cam ❤❤❤
Agreed - I’ve recommended to a few zep friends
Me as well!
You're the best Kevin, thank you so much. This project took off last year and it keeps going thanks to my dear community. Your comment means a lot man!
It’s BY FAR the most in depth, interesting Led Zeppelin related stuff EVER made. TH-cam or otherwise.
There’s a thousand 2nd places. JCM knows more than me re: LZ that’s why it’s so fun for me.
I don't really see Jimmy as slumming it with Still of the Night. John Sykes was a super talented guitarist and honestly his work with Whitesnake and Blue Murder is far more interesting than Jimmy's on Outrider. If anything, he was slumming it more by playing the Black Crowes songs, which I mostly like but feel have pretty generic guitar parts.
I don't think Jimmy really had the kind of ego to worry about that so much as he was worried about his chances of getting back together with Robert. And I think it's worse when artists refuse to play the songs the fans are hoping to see. Such as The Firm not doing any Bad Company or Led Zep tunes.
The Firm not doing Bad Company was a big dissapointment, you're right! Paul Rodgers had some nerve not to do that right? lol. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
The irony is this was Page's best live playing since the mid 70s.
Suddenly he had the fluency back.
Yeah it's quite ironic, he was shredding his way on stage! Thank YOU so much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 7!
true shame he forgot to bring is guitar with him when he recorded the unleaded and clarksdale albums with plant
Plant's reaction to being questined about JPJ says it all
Yeah, it sums up the 90s! hehe
I’m glad I saw this clip of Jimmy playing “still of the night” - crazy - no idea this happened
It's quite a cross over right? Hahaha, LED SNAKELIN!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories White Zeppelin? Nahhh, that sounds racist AF.
Many years ago my childhood friend and I got together again to relive some of the Zeppelin magic. We found a bootleg store in NYC and got the the Coverdale/Page Nagoya boot on VHS. Put it on and my personal reaction was "Where is the great Jimmy Page?" His playing felt like day-old stale bread. My friend had a different reaction and kept imitating Coverdale going, "Ello Nagoya!" Even now, all these years later, when something sucks my friend still goes "Ellow Nagoya!"
Hahaha Ello Nagoya, his comment on what seems to be him asking the audience if their testicles are doing well? I facepalmed so much watching the footage lol. So cool you guys kept this inside joke, its what makes friendships valuable. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Your videos are totally brilliant my friend! Your style and format really is unique and I think you've created a definitive series! @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
That live footage sounds pretty killer to me! Jimmy is on fire! He’s one of the greatest six string slingers ever!!
He got his chops back for sure! Thank you for watching! Stay Tuned for Episode 15!
the more I learn about everything post Zep the more it reinforces my feeling that the public and the band members all would have been better off had Zep just taken a break for a couple years and then put an album out.
Hard to think the what ifs of that right? I am glad you are enjoying these! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
But there's no Zeppelin without Bonham, like there's no Rush without Peart, or no Metallica without Burton.
Great work as always Jose! I have always struggled with the reunion concept and Led Zeppelin in the 90s. Following John's passing, on one hand I would have loved more shows like the O2 to get the chance to see them live and perhaps an album or two of new work. However their body of work before John's passing was, is and will always remain a staggering accomplishment. So at the risk of diminishing and putting out stuff that is not up to par perhaps the decision to work separately with collective select contribution was for the better of their legacy. Thank you again
Yes, i share your opinion 100%. Led Zeppelin's body of work is honored by tribute acts like the great Jimmy Sakurai for example with the advantage of not being the actual surviving members you knokw? For them it's a different route in which i think only Jones had the actual freedom to present it in a very good way. For Page and Plant though, it was the world on their shoulders. Wisdom and Money are not best friends past the gates of fame! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for 7.
Funny how the narrator says the touring was not great, then plays the clip of Jimmy leading into the solo of Rock and Roll and absolutely killing it. 🤣
Jimmy playing a fine solo doesn't make a great TOUR. Remember its the sum of all parts :) Glad you enjoyed the video and found the time to comment!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Cheers mate. Yeah, I get your point, and that's how I understood it was as well from other sources, it was just funny to say that and then play Jimmy killing it.
You can tell Jimmy was excited to return to Japan. He even did the "Jump"! Talk about energy. I am puzzled though how Don't leave me this way lacked some of the inspiration from the Studio version.
Sorry I feel the narrator is to down on everything,,, and doesn’t know the difference or understand between a live show from a studio released record!!! I thought it was all great,,,, except for the narrator.
Jealousy doesn't make PLant look good. Coverdale/Page is a very good album and the live band was rocking quite hard as we can see on videos.
Yeah, Robert's fate of jealousy was not a good thing. I bet his manager was angry at him for taking a jab at other musicians.
I personally like the Coverdale/Page album, and I was disappointed that the tour never came to America. I would have loved to see this. As far as how Coverdale speaks to the audience is concerned, as someone who has seen Whitesnake in 1984 and 1987, he's always been like this. To expect him to be like Robert Plant is unreasonable and unrealistic.
I saw Whitesnake in 2011, forgot to mention this on the video. I didn't want him to be Plant, just show the level of respect Jimmy Page and his projects have always showed the audience, specially Japan, go check Friends at Hiroshima...Plant's words to the crowd speak volumes of RESPECT. Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Robert & Jimmy deserved that from JPJ at the very beginning.
That & more.
I hope it stung.
Pretty sure it stung...pretty sure :) Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Zep would never have worked without Jonsey. Too much ego, sloppy inconsistent playing, and no work ethic.
Don’t understand why Robert felt so negatively about this duo. It’s not exactly like he was banging on Jimmy’s door to play with him.
Right Kellie? It's like hey Robert, what about THE Fate of Nations? Maybe check out YOUR own lyrics and carry on with YOUR project. Kellie THANK YOU so much for tuning in to these. Episode 7 will hopefully come this week :)
The album was amazing.
Yeah, i just played it today again and it's a hard rock treasure! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
The whole project took to long to complete and the management clearly didn’t have a clue how to make this as big as it should have been. It’s still the best thing Jimmy Page has recorded since “ Presence” .
Yeah, management was directionless, it's almost as if the powers that be orchestrated this to a perfect timing for Page and Plant to get back together, like in high school hehe. It is Jimmy's best since Presence, i agree 100%. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I have to disagree, those two "the firm" albums were amazing.
I'm happy to see someone else giving Presence some love. For me, it is the zenith of Zep's career, an absolute masterpiece. Tea for One replaced No Quarter as my favorite LZ song.
@@ancientunique7672I love them. It’s sad to me that they’ve totally disappeared from existence
Wow! Lots to unpack here. Absolutely excellent production and content. We’ll done as always Jose.❤ 2 episodes!!! Nice!!! Love it!!!! I love your running order for the box set. I’m setting it on my zep playlist. Excellent order. I like it. I didn’t know Guy Pratt was their bassist. I love Guy from Floyd and Gilmore. The Coverdale/Page live set list seems exhausting! Lots of of hard tunes to perform. It’s a heavy load. I AM HOLDING MY SEAT FOR UNLEADED!!!!!😮
Not sure i can 2 episodes per weekend, but for this 1993 part of the story i had to. So glad to read you enjoyed these. Let me know how Boxed Set 2 sounds like with the proposed running order. Guy's work with Floyd was superb, not sure he was the right guy (pun intended) for Page. Jimmy needs more presence i guess, Pratt is more of a darker sound i believe. Man...Unledded is staring at me "can you handle this"? lol. Hope i live up to the expectations! Stay Safe Matt!
JCM you are the best LZ historian. No question about it, this is a time capsule! Thanks buddy!
Glad you enjoyed it! I take my time to get the historic events and feel for the story. This is a labor of admiration for their works and i'm happy it shows! Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
COVERDALE was AWESOME...... PLANT sounds like a whiny old lady at times.
Fair enough! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
“Thank you …my friends…
For finally remembering my phone number…”
~ Jonesey 😄
An iconic 90s line if there was ever one in the Led Zeppelin universe. I'm pretty sure, if Bonzo was alive he'd tease Robert over some of his antics you know? Even if the band parted ways. A reunion would not have taken SO LONG had Bonham been with us! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for 7.
Absolutely unreal!!! Always new, refreshing, more difficult than the last , and then some.....I can't take my eyes away ( except to find another one of y'alls videos ) THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!!!❤❤
Thank you so much for watching! Editing this 1990s series was a great challenge, hope you go all the way till the end! Lot's of highlights in this decade!
I bought it on CD when it was new, and still have it. Its a fantastic album and I REALLY looked forward to seeing it performed, and was depressed I never got to. However, I AM convinced this project is what made hard-headed Robert Plant jealous and caused the Plant and Page project, which I did see live (twice).
Hope you enjoy my next installment for 1994...so many things to cover, and yes, i think Plant's ego got hit.
my story exactly to the T Bro !!! don't get me wrong here, Zeppelin the greatest rock band all time !!! but when plant tried shake my tree, not even close
Let's not forget, before he was a session's Guitarist, Jimmy was in Neil Christian's Crusaders. He got really bad sick on the road and came back to London to get well and afterward took up session work. I don't care what anyone says, he is the Greatest Hard Rock Guitarist. I was fortunate enough to have seen Zeppelin live 176 times and Page/Plant an even 100 times. They'll never be another like those two Ever Again!!! This reminds me, I actually have a CP video I downloaded awhile back but haven't gave a look see yet; too busy listening to Zeppelin shows. But I will check it out tomorrow. Thanks man.
Edit : The Japanese still revere Jimmy & Led Zeppelin to this day. Just ask Marcia S. I saw she has commented on several of your videos. We always heard back in the day that the reason Zeppelin never played Japan after '72 was that the Emperor banned them because of the Cult like following of the Japanese youth( the Emperor's words, not mine)but I wonder if that was really true. I know I have revered Page & Led Zeppelin since 1969 when my brother came home on Jan 6th, 1969 from Los Angeles and he told me he had seen this fantastic new band at the Whiskey A Go-Go the night before, and that he heard they had an album being dropped on Jan. 12th. We both went to the record shop on that day, brought it home, and proceeded to listen to it 3 times in a row as loud as we could get away with without blowing the speakers out!!! I have listened to Zeppelin every day since. I can be in the worst mood, and 2 min. or so have a smile on my face and can't remember why I was upset, mad or bummed. Any track, it doesn't matter. Now that, to me, a life-long self taught Guitarist(thanks to Jimmy)is the true magick of great music. As far as lyrics, all I have to point to are Robert's lyrics to Kashmir & Achilles Last Stand, and the sheer fun of Dancing Days, to the seriousness of the Iconic No Quarter. Sorry, but for me, nobody comes close to Led Zeppelin. I enjoyed the reworkings of some of the tunes in Unledded/No Quarter, and I love Wonderful One, my and a special someone's ❤️ 'song'. I have always dreamed of them both sitting down with Gibson J-200s and Robert a Marine Band harmonica, and letting tape roll while they worked out blues/love(lust)tunes. Lololol, oh lordy I'm getting old. Rock On, brothers and sisters, and don't ever Stop!!!
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Coverdale/Page rocked it!!
You know it! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Nothing against Coverdale, but seeing him perform iconic Zep numbers with Jimmy made me a little bit sick to my stomach.
Hahaha. It gave me nightmares, trust me, editing this was not easy lol. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I watched the two episodes in sequence so I left my opinion on the other episode. Impeccable research, production and presentation as always Sensei. Thanks 😊
Sensei hehe, maybe i can be Josensei? Thank YOU so much for watching these Marcia!
A classic Pageism I think is the terminology. He knew exactly what buttons to press with Robert's ego, and so he got what he wanted with their reunion. That Coverdale/Page only did this token Tour of Japan, something was definitely up..
Thank you very much for watching! Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are out now! Stay tuned for Episode 10 on the Page and Plant Tour of 1995!
Loved Coverdale on Come Taste the Band but he sounds like the broadway theatre version of Zep
Broadway the Hard Way as Frank Zappa said hehe. Yeah man, David really suffered his way through Kashmir and In My Time of Dying. I tried to forgive him...but no. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I love Coverdale-Page (and seen Whitesnake live multiple times), and their setlist is bonkers cool on paper ... but if it was me I would have done an even balance of Zep and Whitesnake, and then thrown in a medley of Burn and Smoke On the Water. Seeing Jimmy handle those two might be cool.
Burn yes, a KILLER song! I like the idea!
I don't think you'd ever see Page playing Deep Purple. That would be an uncomfortable affiliation. Almost as weird as hearing Coverdale sing Kashmir, which to me, isn't great. I think Jimmy could have handled those Purple songs, but would be weird to have him play that stuff and I'm sure he felt the same if ever it was considered.
Burn? Definitely. But why Smoke On The Water? Neither had anything to do with that album.
@@killmenow6663 agree
@@killmenow6663 Agreed, plus he sounds bad covering Gillian
It’s pretty obvious that Plat’s distaste for Coverdale is out of jealousy. When the 1987 album came out, Whitesnake was absolutely EVERYWHERE! You couldn’t turn on mtv or turn on the radio without hearing one of Snake’s songs. And this band needed a time to gel as a band, which they weren’t afforded
1987 was a smash hit absolutely, to good and bad, Coverdale became a star in ways he never thought he would. I do think Robert had some respect for the Deep Purple era with David you know? Thank you so much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Thanks JCM for always going above and beyond with great detail!!!🔥🔥❤️ This episode completely reminded me of how AMAZING Robert Plant was and is!!! Can’t wait till the next episode!!! Thanks again sir!!!!
Gary The Man Davenport! How are ya! Or as Coverdale said HOW ARE YOU DOINGGG OSAKAAAA! lol. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Robert Plant was rattled by this collaboration. I was absolutely gutted that no further shows took place after the Japanese tour. That being said it was great to see Jimmy reunited with Robert the following year. Personally I think there would have a huge demand in the U.S., U.K. & Europe to see their show bearing in mind that the Coverdale/Page album sold in excess of a million copies.
Yes, they were better off touring those markets, as you said, the album did sell, i just would have changed the "covers" they did, there was SO much stuff to choose from, ugh hehe. Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
They actually had a planned US tour and were selling tickets for that tour which was supposed to start in late January 94'. Problem was they were not selling enough tickets and management wanted to change the venues to smaller venues of around 5,000-15,000 people. Page essentially saw the writing on the wall, realized grunge had taken over, and figured a Zep reunion of sorts was the better money making option so the tour was cancelled and Page rang up old Robert.
Robert has been so full of himself always complaining he can’t do Zeppelin anymore and yet he still does horrible live versions of Zep tunes slowed down and tuned down so he can try and sing them.
The Page Plant tours I wouldn’t go and it was just like I feared they sounded like a karaoke version of what Zeppelin was and Walking Into Clarksdale was the worst collaboration ever.
I loved Zeppelin and was a massive fan of Bohnam as most drummers are.
The closest I came to seeing them live was going to be the
80-81 tour.
I like your take on all things Zeppelin,great job
They tried three times to launch a US tour in 1993 but failed as ticket sales were sluggish in every market. It was the height of the Grunge music era.
Thank you for the great documentary-awesome footage!-cheers from New Zealand
Hello New Zealand, cheers down there! Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
You do SUCH an incredible job with these- thank you SO much! :D
Editing this one was quite fun...some people got angry on my comments at Coverdale but...it's as objective as i can :)
fabulous as ever - imso glad you name checked northwinds, wonderful album. His screatchy voice did grate after a while
Man i am obssesed with NORTHWINDS, got it on my phone as a low quality full mp3 track...can't wait to get my hands on the CD and maybe Vinyl. It's an incredible album. Track 4 is a gem. Played it to a friend the other day and i was like, guess who, he couldn't believe his ears! And he is a Whitesnake fan! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I loved the Coverdale/Page album, I thought it was awesome
Yes it was Matthew, a killer record! Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Thank you so very much, Jose. Another awesome documentary!
Thank you so much man, i appreciate it. I'll be honest, editing 1993 was SO HARD, with so much going on hahaha. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories You're welcome! We all appreciate your hard work and dedication to these documentaries. Will do. 🙂
Two in a row,awsome!thanks my friend.
Haha yeah, i wanted to make an hour long episode but then i thought, the 1993 story has two stories, the Coverdale-Plant beef, and then the Japanese Swan Song on stage. So i chopped them up and came up with this. I don't think i can make 2 per week, that'd be quite intense but...the 1990s is providing a great foreground to go into deep dives of the Zeppelin albums! Thank YOU so much Jeremy for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I bought both of the albums. And being a kid in the 90s and haven’t actually experienced Led Zep in their glory days. I found myself enjoying the Coverdale/Page more, fate of nation was solid but I was just more glad to hear Page’s new music at that time.
Another 90s kid here, Arnie you are right, Coverdale Page rocked, Jimmy's guitar work was SCARY good!
I love your documentaries, you really tell a lot of interesting stories. Your passion is absolute here, your commitment and love for Led Zep and Jimmy is 100% here. The only thing I would like you to work on is the speed of pronunciation, because even with subtitles, unfortunately, it's easy to miss a lot. Thanks a lot for your work, can't wait for more episodes.
Hey man thanks so much for tuning in! I appreciate it :) As for the pronunciation it's a learning curve for sure, it's the most tedious part of the process, sometimes it is tiring, i am doing the best i can, maybe it gets too passionate sometimes :)
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories you are doing great, beautiful job. Thanks for it again.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories by the way, maybe an episode about Jimmy's acoustic work could be an idea?
Guitar Blanket that sounds like a great idea, i am thinking of doing a series of episodes on Jimmy's technique. What would you like to see on an episode on his acoustic work?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories oh men let's start with his adventures with Italian Eko guitars, how he found them. Also wheb he switched to Harmony Sovereign. Which acoustic tunes he recorded with what model and also how he finally found Martin d28. I love his sound on Rain Song live with Robert 1994 in London. So I guess it could be an episode on how Jimmy found at last his grail d28 finishing with his personal model made for him.
Interestingly, Jimmy is shown practicing IMTOD with Coverdale in the original A, as opposed to downtuning to G like he did for Plant (live)
@@adamwatson6916 I agree. It has nothing to do with "perfect pitch", which I certainly don't have, but I think songs sound kind of sluggish when they're downtuned, and a lot of people can hear that. That's my quibble with Celebration Day. But Robert is, after all, human.
Page working out them singers right? He should have played this in G i believe! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Coverdale Page album is amazing or most of it. Plants album Fate of nations is also good, and a return to some very Zeppelin sounds, but not quite as hard hitting as CP. Page did something here that topped almost everything that had been going on with grunge and the early stages of alternative rock, basically he showed who's boss in guitar.
It topped grunge, YES, his guitar man...i want to do a video on his guitar work here, it's criminally underrated damn it! lol Thank you very much for watching. Stay tuned for Number 7!
I still listen to this album - and on CD since Spotify removed it. I'd been a fan of Coverdale since Purple. For some reason, most USA people think he magically appeared in 1987, not realizing his history. It might because he's been the 2nd lead singer a few times in mega groups. Even today, he still has a very wonderful voice. The silver lining is that when Whitesnake comes to town, the tickets are below $100 as opposed to groups like the Stones where they are more than 5x higher. Coverdale kind of plays into the USA stereotype at his USA shows - by not playing anything pre-1987. Ain't No Love in The Heart of the City - never heard in any USA show I've attended by him.
Very interesting points you address here. This is my perception too of his US shows, like Pre 1984 Whitesnake never happened. Do you think he does not want to pay royalties to his former mates? Marsden, Moody, etc? I saw him in 2011; great show! Incredible the Stones charge 5x..considering their chops you know? I wouldnt pay that. It's a shame they removed C/P from Spotify. But...its more profitable i guess, their royalty rates are laughable.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I think it's more playing into USA expectations. I was in HS in the late 70s in London - two stops away from Hammersmiths. Both Rainbow and Snake were well respected by proto-metal HS rockers. Punk and New Wave (& New Romantic) were permeating the youths music tastes too. This was just as Lord and Paice joined Coverdale and Glover joined Blackmore. Both groups were releasing music with very similar riffs and beats. I returned to the US and no one heard of Whitesnake or Rainbow. I was actually living on Long Island at the 90s. My guitar tech told me he also did work for Blackmore - which I thought was BS. Much later, I did learn Blackmore was and still is living there a few miles from me LOL. It wasn't until late in college in the 80s when all of sudden it seemed the metal fans suddenly heard of Whitesnake and believed they came out of nowhere. Also on these fans radar was Kingdom Come's debut album. When I would explain this was post-Purple, no one seemed to care - a few years earlier Perfect Strangers came out. Only one person I knew was aware of it - and he was from Scotland. It was as-if Whitesnake came out of nowhere and didn't exist before. USA did the same thing with the Bee Gees in the 70s - latched onto their dance music and didn't realize they had existed since around the same time Purple started. I loved the Purple Album when it came out (also pulled from Spotify today - had to buy that import CD from Europe!) and was excited to hear Coverdale finally doing Burn and Might Just Save Your Life live in the USA. But no such luck. He played mostly 1987-1989 stuff, ignored the Purple stuff and pre-87, but also played some stuff from later. Everyone was singing along. It was a full concert. Hey played exactly what the audience wanted to hear and groove with. I doubt anyone but me was living in London in the 80s. If I want to hear these favorites of mine live - it would seem I'm relegated to streaming platforms - which is a dream in of itself compared to before.
Thanks for the videos.
It was nice when Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach joined the band in the 00s. Whitesnake brought back a lot of pre 1987 tracks. Even went as far back as dusting off Burn/Stormbringer from his Purple days.
Coverdale Page does exist on spotify, it's just been uploaded on some random channel as a single track podcast episode. But it's the full length album.
Snakebite from 1978 is my favorite whitesnake album. It was right after deep purple & only originally released in UK & Europe
Killing it as usual, Jose! Ty. Ernie
Ernie thank you man, really, you're always here supporting the channel, means a lot :)
great work buddy ---- as usual
Hope you enjoy what's coming...i'm a bit nervous of working the 1994 episode...a very controversial moment in history hehe.
Man, no chance I woulda seen that C/P live stuff had you not included it here. Likely will never listen to it again. You have my sympathy for sitting thru it to make this episode.
Nice work in this one as usual....see ya soon!
Sympathy for sitting thru lol, Dave i HAD nightmares on this. I was tired as hell listening to these shows, trying to find a decent Kashmir vocal take...ugh. Jimmy Page did play some FINE and insane guitar fireworks here! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I was a bit surprised by the indecent vocal intonation on Kashmir.
Way to be a trooper! Seeya soon!
I personally loved the Coverdale Page album and was hoping to see it live that year but it was just not to be. As for the stage banter, everytime I've seen Whitesnake that's just how David interacts with the audience, good natured insults and all, I enjoy it. I also enjoyed Plant's Fate Of Nations, his last solo album I really loved. 1993 gave us lots of great music.
@@adamwatson6916 I agree, but Dave just will never be a quiet subtle kinda guy on stage so it just comes as part of working with him.
I saw Whitesnake live, and enjoyed David's banter in that context, he asked the crowd many times if we where having a good time and "Here's a SONG FORYA". It rocked 100%, but just don't take that to the legacy of Led Zeppelin. I'm pretty sure Bonzo would have told David to keep it quiet lol.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesbut Page is not Led Zeppelin while Coverdale is Whitesnake (for the most part), this is not Led Zeppelin yet Coverdale & Page. Bringing into them Whitesnake and Led Zeppelin legacy is pointless. This is just two great artists collaborating & having fun, anything else and adding other context to it is just missing the point of it. Media & Plant did the same wrong doing. Project probably would have lasted and toured worldwide if other people stopped thinking, comparing, jealousy etc. ego superficial stuff, but that's the life of being a rose...
I'm so glad you made this video !!! My thoughts have changed, and after seeing the CP performances from Japan, I know now, that it is better that that was not fulfilled in the US.
Not being a Whitesnake fan, I did not know how bombastic Coverdale was on stage. I didn't like his constant profanity either. DC thinks he's the Grand Marshall of the Circus.
I was basing my desire to see CP live on what I heard on their album.
But now, after all these years, I can put that unfulfilled desire to rest.
I have seen LZ in the 70's, and Page, and Plant, in the 80's, and Page & Plant in the 90's.
Nothing that has come since LZ has ever approached or eclipsed the Magic of JP, RP, JPJ, & JB together. That said, the 2007 O2 concert did approach the magic of LZ better than anything, so I am grateful for that. And grateful that the world could finally get to hear the majesty of "Kashmir" live in high audio fidelity.
Totally agree. Coverdale's swearing is tedious - and it is so rude to the Japanese audience especially!
Right? It's like the guy who recorded the album just wasn't there. Page won't ever say this on record i'm sure, but i bet he felt like "WTF David". Yes, 2007 's Kashmir was a TRIUMPHANT moment, what a version...and with Jason Bonham made sense :) A US TOUR of Coverdale/Page would have been ridiculed in MTV...i'm 100% sure. And then what happens? Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@ArcofNeptune
I was kid at the time so I couldn’t attend the gig but my dad, uncle and all their friends, all Zeppelin fans, were bored with DC. They said “we miss Plant, where the hell did Page get this guy?” 😂
I remember having a bootleg of Coverdale/Page Osaka..I watched it with my friends before we went to Page/Plant 1995 Milwaukee show. I could go without Coverdale swearing? Robert never would go there. The Osaka show had its moments..Page played well.
I wish they would of played Burn instead of Kashmir.
HOW' YA DOING OSAKAAAA haha. I know Jimmy, Coverdale's screaming is quite the experience...i had nightmares! BURN with Jimmy on guitar, now that would have been a historic moment! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
David is the right front man for anyone
I agree, but with a better set list :) I've seen David in concert. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Have to say I prefer Fate of Nations over the Coverdale/Page album. There is a sense that Plant was maturing. Love the production and songwriting on that album.
As for Coverdale, I loved his work in Deep Purple but his Whitesnake work didn’t really connect with me except for their cover of Ain’t no love in the heart of the city which sounds like something that could have been on Come Taste the Band. I have to agree that songs like Mistreated and Soldier of Fortune would have worked well with Page. To be honest his live collaboration with the Black Crows worked much better. That’s a great live album.
Fair enough, there's much diversity in Fate of Nations. I don't hate the album, NOT AT ALL. Just today i listened to Greatest Gift, a fantastic track! Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Why have you run all the Japan footage through a weird filter and also screwed up the aspect ratio?
I thought the effects were a brilliant way for the director to translate the video for modern audiences since it is bootleg material from 30 years.
Thank you very much FM! The Fonz, i wanted to provide a different perspective similar to how we remember visuals in our mind and dreams! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories ok!
Man, Coverdale was still top form in those days. Killer.
I prefer Coverdale with British Whitesnake, Walking in the Shadow of the Blues, Love Hunter, Gambler etc. If he'd just kept the Moody & Marsden writing partnership, the success of the American Whitesnake would have lasted much longer..
I love all the Whitesnake albums pre-Whitesnake album. David made a huge mistake getting rid of John Sykes then pretending to be a heavy metal singer and then destroying his voice.
I agree with you 100%. I have his 1978 Northwinds album on my playlist quite often
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Amazing album! Back in the day when we didn't have internet, the pre- Slide It In albums were so difficult to come across in North America.
Northwinds was a lucky find back then.
@@redstar7292snake snakebite is the very 1st one from 1978....its my favorite. Right after he left deep purple
It's a pretty damn good Led Zeppelin Cover band (Coverdale) band I wish I could of been there.
Led Snake :) Thank you so much for watching, Stay tuned for Episode 7.
I had tickets to the CP show in Houston Texas in 93 but that concert was cancelled and was never rebooked so I never had the pleasure of seeing them perform live
Imagine had the US tour happened, i think it should have been in 1992!
Great video. I don’t dislike Coverdale but Page and Coverdale were the most unhinged pairing. Zero stage chemistry. Coverdale seemed to have no understanding of who Page is on stage and expectations. He was still stuck in glam rock when the world had moved on.
Great way to put it. Coverdale did not understand the situation well. You just can't lead Page if you are not Plant hehe
Thank you for showing the Page tribute w Eddie there. Awesome.
Two Legends!
I like the Page/Coverdale album - BUT: I like "Walking into Clarksdale" a whole lot more!
I will sure do a deep dive on Walking into Clarksdale, looking forward to it. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
They were a good match. Jimmy can play with any good singer. Can't help it if Coverdale was a bit like Plant. Many bands were influenced by Zep and have to admit The Still of The Night is ass kicking. Even with the No Quarter parts in the song it does rock. The Firm had some real good tunes too.
Still of the Night is an a$$kicking song. I enjoy it from time to time. Thing is, the set list could have been better you know? Imagine had they done Burn!! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
From watching the interviews at the time, Coverdale seems to imply that it was Page that was composing tunes where DC would have to sing in "the stratosphere". Part of the interview has Page actually defending Coverdale for sounding like Plant - stating they were all a part of the Holy Trinity and there at the same time. No one seems to accuse Sabbath of sounding like Purple or Zep - even when Gillian and Hughes both joined Sabbath as singers on different occasions (well they didn't, it was the record companies that rebranded their efforts LOL). Coverdale even states in interviews that he started with Purple. But, most of us in the USA don't know about his history and all we know is he appeared in 1987 with Still of the Night - and we ignore the history. However, I know better LOL.
Gotta give credit to David Coverdale for giving the Zepplin songs a go, while not the worst, even though Roberts a great vocalist, I can't imagine him singing Whitesnake songs.
I've seen Whitesnake live, and that's just how David talked to the audience.
I would've gone to see Coverdale/Page, if the opportunity arose at the time.
But saying that, I also like Fate of Nations too.
One man's meat, is another man's gravy.
Having seen live both Robert Plant and Whitesnake (multiple times), agreed. David and Robert have hugely different stage personas. Robert is cool. David is cocky and crude.
Maybe A.I can replicate Plant singing Whitesnake, i would love to hear this. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Page and Plant actually had "Shake My Tree" in their set list after this project. I can't find any interview anywhere where Plant gives his thoughts on having to sing that Coverdale/Page song in their concerts. However, evidence that Page and Plant did Shake My Tree in their sets is easily found on TH-cam.
The Coverdale/Page songs at these concerts are absolutely amazing! You nailed it JCM. They needed a 2nd album. Had they toured in support of two albums instead of just one, it would have been really great. And I agree, the Zep songs are not necessary. That's what was so cool about The Firm,... Page and Rodgers did not rely on stuff from previous bands, it was all new and all real. That's why The Firm will always be the best post-Zep group, hands down, nothing else comes close. Both Firm albums were brilliant. But it would have been nice to have another Coverdale/Page album, and for that matter, a 3rd Firm album was always on my wish-list. But I'm glad Coverdale/Page did these shows. They were both in top form. Two really amazing talents together, in these rare performances, captured for just a brief moment in time. It was special! It's rock and roll history and it was great!
Yeah, The Firm has a special energy that i think after rewatching these, made me value their 80s stuff so much more. I don't necessary like Paul Rodgers who can sometimes feel a bit bland and a bit limited in the styles he chooses to sing BUT...i give them the fact that they Wrote new material and toured. That's brave and Refreshing. And yes, having these historical documents allows us to have this conversation so we should be grateful! Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Two of my absolute favorites together. But wow, that was just hard to watch. I loved that album and played it all summer. Always wondered why they didn't tour or make another album. Now this explains it. They had no chemistry together on stage. Hard to believe.
It is hard to watch...for me editing this, it was cringe after cringe. Some things are not meant to happen! This is like a "power couple" that had bad chemistry outside of "cool instagram pics" lol.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I left a comment to this effect elsewhere, but I wanted to run it by you as well;
Coverdale's "style", while unique and impressive in its own right, is incredibly inorganic and very, very mechanically exacting. It has three incredibly precise "modes" that David, in his prime, managed to meld together with great effort, if at all. It was not suited to just jumping in and having fun singing a song. He had to try and figure out how to adapt his highly affected, incredibly demanding singing to each part of any song he was asked to sing, and he clearly found that a challenge. I assume that's why he hardly ever did covers. His own songs were, of course, automatically tailored to what came easily to him.
Great video, by the way!!👍👍👍
I’m starting to not like plant as much after watching some of his interviews , I think the Coverdale page album is awesome and preferred it much more than fare of nations
It's been quite a discovery for me too man, trust me. I actually had tickets to see him this year, but because of my former job i couldn't go. Trust me, i don't regret it...C/P is awesome, yes! I heard it today, AGAIN hehe. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I think you were a little harsh on the them. The video was very bad quality as the sound. I suggest you listen to a few of the bootlegs of these shows which sound way better than this video and audio recording. I totally like this album a lot better than Walking into Clarksdale. It has more punch and lets Jimmy do what he does best. Plant can be very arrogant and self absosrbed at times. He did not invent the front man in Rock N Roll and everything is up for grabs.
Trust me i went through my archive recordings, i dug deep and even had nightmares. I looked for the BEST versions, i tried to find GOLD, there was but the overall picture painted a different story. Coverdale Page WAS A GREAT album, the Japanese shows not so much. As a musician and composer i have a very open mind for gigs and versions, but i don't believe the set list for this small tour was the best, they had SO MUCH to choose from. I agree Plant is not Elvis :) Thank YOU so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I am neither a musician or composer, but I know what music I like. I have been a Led Zeppelin fan since 1972 and my favorite has been and always will be Jimmy Page. His playing touches me inside like no guitarist ever. I feel like he truly knows who I am in a sense.Did you listen to Coverdale/Page First and Last? I always enjoy your channel it reminds me of some things that I have forgotten over time or did not know.
At least Page & Coverdale played Rock. Plant has pretty much chosen to abandon Rock & Zeppelin since they called it a day over 40 years ago
But Plant decides to open Fate of Nations with Calling to You which sounds like Kashmir meets Whole Lotta Love hehe. Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
I reckon Coverdale sounds great on those Zep songs. Hard to imagine anyone else pulling them off at that stage. Some Deep Purple would have been great.
I can think of other singers back then that would have performed these Zeppelin numbers better....i have great admiration for Coverdale, it's just that it didn't grow from listening to him attempt Zepp tunes but let's take for example MISTREATED live at Cal Jam 1974:) Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
The photo of Page, Eddie Van Halen and Steve Lukather at 4:35...love it.
Quite an image right Eric? And also Dweezil, the song of a legend and a madman in his own way, all legends in my book! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I THINK DAVID DOES A STELLOR JOB ON THE ZEP SONGS, AND JIMMY KICKS ASS ON THE WHITESNAKE TUNES!
Wish David played MISTREATED!
I preferred Fate of Nations to Coverdale Page but both are excellent albums. Coverdale's singing style grates on me after a while but Robert always sounds good. Also the guitar work on CP is goddamned amazing but overall song structure is much stronger on FoN.
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I enjoyed your story from a Led Zeppelin perspective. You mentioned, that these weren't Whitesnake shows, but they weren't Led Zeppelin shows too. These were Coverdale / Page shows so you had to expect (and accept) things that made Jimmy and David famous. And the banter between the songs is one of these things. It was DC's 8th tour in Japan and at least half of the audience expected that. And it seems that it was ok for Jimmy too, he heard it in the rehearsals and probably would have said David that he shouldn't do that if he had found it unacceptable. Just my perspective, so thank you for that story nevertheless :-)
I liked David's banter when i saw Whitesnake live. As you said it wasnt a Whitesnake show so i think David should've taken a more relaxed approach. Just look at Jimmy playing Whitesnake, he is very respectful of David's material :) With Page already knowing the project was off i don't think he would have told David anything in rehearsal. I like Coverdale's solo work and early Whitesnake + 2005 on. The partnership created one of the best albums from 1993. Thank YOU so much for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories And DC was very respectful of Jimmy's songs too. But you shouldn't expect Robert Plant between the songs during a Coverdale/Page show ;-)That's the main problem of the album and the shows. Too many people (and definitely the US press) expected a Led Zeppelin album with another singer.
Had they done other songs a different story. How i wish David sang stuff from Northwinds. All the takes of Kashmir from Japan were vocally shaky.. Imagine Jimmy playing Still of the Night like that. He did quite the opposite, rocking out Whitesnake numbers, made sense as the substance came from Zepp and Purple. Listen to the Riff for RAT BAT BLUE off Purple's 1973 album, there is a section quite similar to Still of the Night. I would have preferred David trying a Zeppelin B side rather than a key track like Kashmir!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Zeppelin were last time in Japan more than 20 years ago, so I guess playing less familiar songs wasn't an option
I would love to hear MISTREATED by them. Whitesnake's Purple album was incredible.
Robert Plant is absolutely right! When I heard and watched the "Still Of The Night" video by Whitesnake I was shocked by the way David imitated Robert! It's beyond words!
Yeah, we gotta give it to Robert, he was right about David!
Let's face it Coverdale Page was a good album, If that was Plant singing on that album ppl would talk about it more. I was a big Coverdale fan when he was with Purple and thought he was a hellove a singer, not better then Plant or Ian Gillian. I thought they all were great singers but I would give Plant a small edge just because I'm Jaded. If the story is correct that that material was written with Plant in mind but Plant declined to do it. He saw it was a good albums, how fast was it that when the Coverdale, Page album came out that the news of Page and Plant were doing an album together, less then 2 years. And the screwed Jones. They figured it would be easier to split the money 2 way instead of 3, why not John on bass, if not the best bassist in rock definitely in the top 5.
You guys will hate me as i love BORN AGAIN with Gillan hehe! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Born Again is a highly underrated album. It’s one of my favourite Sabbath albums.
@foggyblues i am excited Iommi said there's a deluxe edition of Born Again coming up WITH a Remix!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories YES!!! Me too. I hope it happens.
It's funny because the original album I'm sure many here know, was not mixed as the band though and intended. So it will be very interesting to see the remix should it happen.
Another awesome video 🤘
Man...i had nightmares after doing an all-nighter editing session of these Japanese shows. It was ROUGH hehe.
I *loved* this collaboration during this weird phase of post Zeppelin existence. Prob an unpopular opinion. Bought tickets to see them in Texas…and then the show was cancelled. Boo.
Too bad they were cancelled, a big What If right? Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
Agreed. They should have cut a second LP and then toured with more material.
Some of the vey best song writing Page has done since LZ is on their LP. IMHO
Had they recorded a second album....the substance was there yes! Now i just hate Coverdale's take on Kashmir, feels like watching somebody hit a family a member. :( Thank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
It is incredibly uncomfortable watching Jimmy play in the still of the night
Whitesnake is so underrated because '87 is like their worst album. Slip of the tongue and Slide it In are better albums imo.
Right? I had nightmares waiting for the night to c-c-c-come haha. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories "Here's a song for ya'!"
Whitesnake Live at Glasgow '84 is worth a listen and Live at Tokyo is worth a glance. Whitesnake being produced by Mike Clink from GnR and both bands being signed to Geffen makes me think Whitesnake was Geffen's first attempt at a tough guy band, but then they changed them to hair metal for the 🤑. You can see 80s Axl borrows from Coverdale's '84 look even though Coverdale already changed his style around the time of the albums Appetite and 1987.
This is the first time seeing this footage. Although it’s not the best of either’s careers…it’s not bad. Certain Zep songs are good as are certain Whitesnake songs. I didn’t feel it was a train wreck by any means. Overall I enjoyed it.
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DAVID'S STAGE ANTICS DONT BOTHER ME AT ALL . HES JUST BEING DAVID. IF HE MIMICKED ROBERTS BANTER AND STAGE MOVES, THEN HE WOULD BE ACCUSED OF JUST IMITATING ROBERT, AND THAT IS MUCH WORSE!
Fair enough, at least he could at least have imitated Robert's in tune vocals for Kashmir :) Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Oh dear, David Coverdale!! His interaction with their audiences in Japan was not a pretty sight! Whatever could Jimmy have thought listening to it all? Very insightful video - I learned a lot - thank you JCM.
Maybe Jimmy thought, "rehearsals with Robert, February 1994". Thank you very much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories So we have to thank DC for Plant & Page! I can do that!
Coverdale already toured in Japan and this is his usual behavior, his audience knows it.
I would have liked to see this, I saw him with the black crowes. Anytime I can see Jimmy live I'm down for it.
Yeah, me too man! 100% Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Hells yeah! Saw the BC with Jimmy in Milwaukee.. 3rd row center 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
For me the main let down of the Coverdale/Page album is the drum sound - it’s incredibly dated to that period. Denny is a great drummer but this isn’t his best moment and I was surprised Jimmy allowed that sound.
Yes, the drum sound sucked, plain and simple. And Denny is a great drummer, absolutely. Thank you very much for watching Episode 6. Episode 5 is out now too, Stay tuned for Number 7!
Coverdale. Coverdale. I never did quite get Coverdale. I wanted to like his vocals; he had range, power, "that sound," but there was something a bit sloppy about him, always a little laggy, always a bit behind, always hunting for a note, and too reliant on slow, wide, vibrato. He starts off aiming for a wide target, then adjusts as he gets closer (sometimes missing the target completely). A bit Karaoke-ish, maybe. Or as you put it, that person you met at Karaoke that you might get lucky with ... these two shouldn't have gone home together, haha.
I learned something I never knew before. Coverdale leaned heavily into falsetto to hit the high notes didn't he? His extreme discomfort in the mid to higher mid of his range seems to indicate this, as well as the extremely drastic difference in timbre compared to his lower singing / speaking voice contrasted against when he's hitting the high notes.
Say what you will about falsetto in male rock vocals up in the higher ranges; some might say it's cheating, some might think it's a perfectly valid way to hit those notes. Female opera singers rely on it heavily, but males do not. I think it works for male vocalists if there isn't a drastic change to the singer's sound below and above the breaking point, but Coverdale's voice changes an awful lot when he's low and high. It's not great.
And wow, Coverdale's stage banter is eye-wateringly terrible. It is disrespectful, not at all in congruity with the material. It's rather tone-deaf, actually, which is something that after listening to all your clips, I'm beginning to wonder isn't true of Coverdale's overall singing. I can only guess there were many takes, and heavy splicing and editing, for his vocals in the studio. The stuff on albums makes him sound much better than he sounds live, and there's usually a reason for that.
Coverdale is a bit of a circus act, to me, a bear on a unicycle. While you're amazed the bear can ride the unicycle (Coverdale did hit the notes that had been eluding Plant since the early 70s after all), the bear gets no points for style, grace, or finesse.
Plant's comments about, and reaction to, the collaboration between Page and Coverdale do come across as a bit crass (almost acting like Page might be cheating on him), but he was not wrong. He may have been coming at it from a mean-spirited place, but that doesn't change the fact that Coverdale was not the right pairing for Page. Even Chris Farlowe worked better than Coverdale (Death Wish II), and that wasn't particularly great singing either.
Thank you for another eye-opener of a video. I always learn very interesting things, and think very interesting thoughts, when I watch your work. Well done.
Coverdale did use falsetto, what 1987 did to his voice was great damage, and i think Whitesnake fans refuse to admit this. I'm glad my videos have made you think interesting thoughts, your comment is GOLD and very well written. David was disrespectful yeah, it was a nightmare for me to listen to his quotes. I like to think he was just nervous? And yes, as much as Plant bashed him, he HAD A POINT, i know this is a tough sell with most rock fans, so reading you mention it made me smile. I believe John Miles was the best on stage collaborator for Page. 1994 is around the corner, i am bracing myself to get into THAT!
Wow, someone has really overanalyzed this. It seems pretty kick ass to me.
Hope you enjoyed the episode! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
I saw opening show at Us air arena in Maryland with Rusted Root they had a boy playing herdie gerdie that was awsome Plant said if crowd liked him they would take him on tour he got standing ovation one of my favorite shows ever
So cool! This touring band in 1993 was a BEAST! Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
It was hard watching footage of these shows indeed. Given my age I was aware of all these events and chose to ignore it. Until Page and Plant can run and then I was happy
I cringed watching Jimmy Page play Still of the Night.
Embarrassing.
I ignored this footage for YEARS...a full decade at least from the first time i saw it, i was affected by it lol. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for Episode 7.
What a voice Coverdale had/has still.
I cant wait til ya get to the Black Crowes and Page, im waiting with baited breath. ;-)
Thanks so much for these videos, this is AWESOME! :-)
I saw the Crows with Page in the suburbs of The great D. I got chills. 😮
Thank you so much for watching, man i am eager to get there trust me, so much to cover, so many events, not enought coffee!
Itll be worth all the wait ;-) @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
Oh boy, JCM, you told this story so well! It's rather complicated to explain, but you did and I agree with what you said. I really like this album. Someone stole my copy of this album two days after I bought it lol. When I finally listened to it in its entirety, I appreciated it more than I could've the first time.
I love Robert Plant, but he should have not spoken so proud🦚. That's when this album became underrated. I could be wrong. I guess it's not bad to be underrated but it should have sold more no matter what. I mean, how good was David Coverdale in Deep Purple and Whitesnake, not to mention Jimmy Page's session history and beyond?
Annette! How are you doing! I will be honest, editing this one was HARD, i was worried the script didn't make sense. But here we are! Robert's management took a hit with the Fate of Nations figures and having 25 musicians on it, well there goes your studio bill right? lol. Hope you enjoy my take on Unledded 1994!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories aw man, you know I'll enjoy it! I haven't commented on everything, but I do appreciate all the videos. It definitely is a labor of love to create documentaries, but it's necessary. Most people your age would've chosen an artist closer to their age and that's ok. You chose a personal favorite band to focus on who has such an amazing history both musical and personal that anyone else might feel overwhelmed to accomplish or receive negative criticism for. May you accomplish great things both musical and personal. I know I go over the top with my posts but I mean well!
You keep pumping the Cloverdale/Page but, me and all my friends preferred the Fate of Nations. It was the best Plant solo album so far.
Fair enough, Greatest Gift from Fate of Nations was on my playlist today, it's an incredible song. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 7.
Watchin this now and seeing the set list, they did zeppelin covers.... uh-oh, this just in... it was the Firm. Thanks JCM
So how is the Coverdale / Page album compared to Walking into Clarksdale ? Which is better ? Hope there will be a video about this . Just got suscribed recently and all I can say the videos I've watched they are all great. Excellent material in all historic details, especially in XYZ episode.
That is a great topic, i am looking forward to diseecting their 1998 release. Thank YOU so much for subscribing, hope you enjoy the content here made by a Zeppelin fan for Zeppelin fans :) The 1981 episode was one i quite enjoyed, glad you dug it!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Sure enough ! There still a lot to watch on your channel.
The Coverdale/Page songs sound fantastic live. A couple of the Zep songs and Whitesnake ones are good. Surprised they didn't do any Deep Purple songs. Oh well... What Is And What Should Never Be.
I didn’t want to like Coverdale/Page,but against my wishes I did.
Maybe Coverdale could have tried out Zeppelin's THE WANTON SONG!