They both sound nice. If you're playing live, with a band, I very much doubt that anyone would be able to tell the difference between these two dirt pedals.
I minimized the video and just listened to it, without looking which pedal was being played each time, and both sounded really similar. Thanks for the great video!
The Caline has a chip socket so you can pull and swap at will. I have a jrc 4558d in mine and it is more open an smooth to my ears. A fantastic pedal for less than 20 quid!
Grr Argh Yup. The Caline uses two TL072 opamps, while the BB uses one TL072 and one JRC NJM4558 opamp (which would explain the slightly warmer sound). Thanks to the chip sockets, it's a very easy swap. I'm sure that the caps in the BB are also of slightly better quality as well, though that's not going to make a huge difference in sound.
Sounds a little bit diferent. Caline is more harsh and midfat. The xotic has more definition and warm. However it doesn't matter... both sounds great. This is excellent point for the dummies who attacks chinese brands on you tube!
My Muff pedal died recently so I asked online whether anyone knew of a half decent cheaper alternative. A number of people suggested the Orange Burst but given its price and place of origin I was a bit hesitant. In the end I decided I'd give it a go, if it was rubbish it was hardly a big loss. Best decision I've ever made. The build quality is very good and the tones and adjustability for the price are outstanding. It seriously stands up to much more expensive pedals and I'm amazed it's slipped under the radar for as long as it has.
For sounding Very Similar with the BB slightly ahead ....Nobody has Mentioned the Huge Price Difference ? So if you want Value for money The Caline Wins hands down .
If you want to support a foreign government (china) who stole all the blueprints for these circuits and many USA weapons and tech secrets to use on the world's innocent...
I'm sure the pot values are slightly different. They won't sound the same with the same settings but I'm sure the Caline has got the same sound in there somewhere.
BB does sound slightly warmer and a tad more refined but they're are very similar. I think by moving the EQ (rolling of some tops and boosting bass a little) you could get the Caline to sound more like the BB. For the price you can't beat the Caline. If you have the $ and need to go on tour go for the BB.
Thank you Pablo!. Finally someone who knows how to do a demo Strat neck, OD tone and choice chords. Very Very hard to find the basics in online demos. Strat Neck or P90, Fenderish amp settings, blues crunch mild to moderate, noodle near the nut. After that, ppl go crazy all pup positions, humbuckers etc. Orange Burst - Like it Had to sell my BB, need budget version. Orange with bit more bass is close enough. Great demo option. Andy Timmons, E Gypsy. Spark of BFSR and the darker Mesa type Woody Lonestar. Andy is a tone master. Love me some Eric Johnson 2/4 tone/melody, but I like the lose Woody tones foundationally with a managed bright top liek BFSR. Pablo, if your looking for future pedal demo ideas consider Joyo Vintage OD. I am trying to listen to more than just crunch range, but musicality of the crunch and open low E. The Joyo has a 3d vibe to it that projects those low open Es nicely and the crunch sounds better to my ears then TS808. I am always on the hunt for a pushed BFSR tone. as a baseline. Btw, weird I never liked SRV tone when he used the TS. Always sounded very pinched/Middy/Muffled, but his non TS tunes esp on couldn't stand the weather and Lenny is amazing. Not sure why I am not hearing that in the Joyo Vintage OD pedal. Plus, the Joyo is unique in that if you max out the gain, its still musical!. Its a recent find. Maybe the honeymoon will wear off.
yeah i got the caline and tried the xotic and for the price ofc u get better sound (depending on ears tho), but if play a little with the eq knobs on the caline u can get even closer than the video. pricewice caline 100%
I hear a difference in the Xotic as well, to my ears, it has a fuller rounder tone at these settings. Thanks for the demonstration - this is pretty cool. The Caline would be a nice way to access these tones, though, for someone wanting to try it out.
I prefer the sound of the orange bust, sounds less fuzzy. My Orange Burst arrived last week, havent tried it yet, need cords for it, that order hasnt arrived yet. Thanks for posting, its nice to see I made the right choice after I watched this video last week, I ordered the Caline.
May I know the song starting at 0:30? Anyway I just reviewed the BB Preamp MB. I'm astonished on how much these two are close, considering the difference in price!!! 🤐
great comparison. they really sound pretty close. i hav a caline orange burst, and i use it as another overdrive pedal from tubescreamer clones with boosted mids. it's a great pedal for the price. but i think when u play both of these pedals, there is much difference i guess with how these feels. i mean the warmth of these two pedals i guess hav much difference. the same way i hav played an original tubescreamer pedal before, in comparison with a ts clone. there is huge difference i guess in terms of the warmth of its sounds.
Very very close! What some people are calling "warmer" I call "flat". I actually prefer that lil touch of sparkle in the mids,that the Caline imparts on the signal. In the end, sounds are mostly a matter of taste....... .
Thanks, I'm using a Blackstar HT 60 with a Musicman Silouette Special neck pickup and a SP Comp, Eterna Mr. Black reverb without the shimmer and the Flashback X4 2290 delay!!
People use the credit to have more views, I don't need to put the credit to have more view, I only share it so the people could now from this pedal!! I'm a big fan of Andy Timmons and I now what song is that!!
after Mad Professor Simble every pedal is just crust on the cake, and the Caline Orange Burst is one of those crusts I trust! I have two and two Caline Pure Skys also, and theyre great! I didnt like the Simble first, but now I have four and its sadly discontinued, get a Mad Prof Simble or Twimble if you can.....
Well, generally I'd say there's not "that much" difference but the BB I can feel down to my boots. Could be worth the extra dough although I'd be looking for a work around. Not sure why the knobs weren't twisted to see if it could sound as sweet.
they are not the same quality and the components are not the same. i have the caline and it has been junk from the get go. it makes a terrible noise and pops when switched.
@@jhue73 well you have been unlucky. I've been building pedals for years so i know about components. Most of them used in either pedal are from the same manufacturers, there is absolutely no difference in quality, and i once had to return a brand new xotic ac booster because the switch failed, so it can happen to any pedal. The only real difference is cosmetic
when i first got it i had to take it apart and remove the output jack and clean some kind of solvent that was under it. i thought that would fix all its problems but it did not. and also the board has been redesigned so its not an exact copy of the bb, the old caline orange burst was. i dont own a bb so i cant compare but i highly doubt they are the same brand components especially the switch, jacks and pots.
@@alanlealferreira4929 100% analog. I cant see why anyone would claim this as digital it is a very close clone of the xotic bb. You can probably find a schematic on line. There are no processors or digital components only analog
I just opened one Caline unit and got the bb preamp esquematic with me. Caline make some "clever" tweak that in fact mask the circuit it was taken from. For example the 2 transistor buffer are not bc550 but another high gain npn. The treble pot was not 100k. It was changed to 50k but look BB Preamp got a 47k resistor im parallel with the pot so caline just put a 50k. See what they did ? Ha ha ha. Another than that ...pretty much a direct copy.
...pues yo si les noto diferencia,sobretodo cuando se oye como ataca con la púa las cuerdas agudas,en el BB noto un sonido más gordito,cremoso,definido más "valvulero" ...sin embargo el Caline (aunque bastante logrado en relación a su precio) lo percibo más estridente,menos compacto incluso me parece menos afinado (curioso,¿no?),lo que en España diríamos más chicharrero...por cierto Pablo ,tocas cojonudo al estilo Timmons ;)...¿qué opinas tú que los oyes directo desde el cono del ampli? ,porque no tiene nada que ver que lo que oimos nosotros en un video con auriculares¡¡...Saludos y gracias por hacer ésta buena comparativa¡¡
I hate to admit it, but the Xotic sounds better. I know it's a compressed YT video, but there is a sweetness the BB has that the Caline doesn't seem to. Bummer, because I thought I could cop that tone for 30.00
Yeah I agree. Although if you stacked it with an RC or AC, it might really sing. I have the latter, and can grab the Caline for $40Au. Might be worth it.
oh really. well scroll down so you cant see the clip. start from the start. walk away for a minute. come back so you dont know whats what and guess what?? you wont know which ones which!! so you can cop that tone for $30 bucks.
I have the orange burst and find it very harsh with not much in the way of smooth tones. The bb sounds better on the video....I've since bought a tomsline plexion pedal to go along side .
@@Bluejeanmusic1984 EQ pedal and/or a Compressor-Limiter (any good comp will do but preferably opto-style, subtle) *after* gain can solve those sorts of problems. Most people run a comp pre-gain but after gain is a great way to use it as well. I use two, one pre and one post.
No comparison... The BB kicks the bollocks out of the Caline. Let's consider price... for AUD39 delivered the Caline is a freakin awesome pedal... i proudly own one... still saving up for the BB. PS check out the Caline Pure Sky... serious piece of gear for less than forty bucks.
Jose miguel Mi conclucion es que estan bien cerca el sonido pero con banda es dificil identificar cual es el BB! Mi consejo es si no tienes el dinero para comprar el BB puedes comprar el Caline y te ahorras mas de $100.00 y sonaras como el BB!!
thanks for sharing your equipment list with us. The song is not an original demo it is by Andy Timmons and it is called Electric Gypsy. Andy uses a bb preamp and demonstrates this pedal using this exact song and this exact tone (only better obviously). Everybody plays other people's music, it's not a problem but credit should always be given where credit is due
IMHO, for every $200-300 hard-to-replace pedal on my motherboard I can find a $30-50 Chinese pedal that sounds darn close. Those go on my gigging board because I've yet to find a bar drunk that can tell the difference between my Pettyjohn Chime and this pedal.
I have the cheap orange one and it's the worst pedal I've ever played through. I really can't stress enough how much this Caline pedal sucks the tone out of the signal. I'm embarrassed to even admit I brought one. Bad, and not the good kind of bad !
They both sound nice. If you're playing live, with a band, I very much doubt that anyone would be able to tell the difference between these two dirt pedals.
I minimized the video and just listened to it, without looking which pedal was being played each time, and both sounded really similar. Thanks for the great video!
Thankyou!!
The Caline has a chip socket so you can pull and swap at will. I have a jrc 4558d in mine and it is more open an smooth to my ears. A fantastic pedal for less than 20 quid!
Grr Argh Yup. The Caline uses two TL072 opamps, while the BB uses one TL072 and one JRC NJM4558 opamp (which would explain the slightly warmer sound). Thanks to the chip sockets, it's a very easy swap. I'm sure that the caps in the BB are also of slightly better quality as well, though that's not going to make a huge difference in sound.
@@michaelbarber1123 good info thanks...
Looking at the circuit for the 2007 BB preamp, both are JRC 4558
Sounds a little bit diferent. Caline is more harsh and midfat. The xotic has more definition and warm. However it doesn't matter... both sounds great. This is excellent point for the dummies who attacks chinese brands on you tube!
i would have liked to see adjust the parameters to see if the similitude still holds at various settings. great demo none the less.
My Muff pedal died recently so I asked online whether anyone knew of a half decent cheaper alternative. A number of people suggested the Orange Burst but given its price and place of origin I was a bit hesitant. In the end I decided I'd give it a go, if it was rubbish it was hardly a big loss. Best decision I've ever made. The build quality is very good and the tones and adjustability for the price are outstanding. It seriously stands up to much more expensive pedals and I'm amazed it's slipped under the radar for as long as it has.
I have one of these and a big muff they are my 2 favorite drive pedals. Cheers😊
Brother, you make those effects sound beautiful ❤
Wow that Caline is very close. The BB is slightly rounder, warmer, a little more dynamic character.
For sounding Very Similar with the BB slightly ahead ....Nobody has Mentioned the Huge Price Difference ? So if you want Value for money The Caline Wins hands down .
If you want to support a foreign government (china) who stole all the blueprints for these circuits and many USA weapons and tech secrets to use on the world's innocent...
Fair point but no one cares
I'm sure the pot values are slightly different. They won't sound the same with the same settings but I'm sure the Caline has got the same sound in there somewhere.
BB does sound slightly warmer and a tad more refined but they're are very similar. I think by moving the EQ (rolling of some tops and boosting bass a little) you could get the Caline to sound more like the BB. For the price you can't beat the Caline. If you have the $ and need to go on tour go for the BB.
BB has more defined tone but for the price, i'll just tweak the orange burst to sound the way i like it
I have the Orange Burst, it's a great pedal and serves as my mid-range booster/OD! Combined with a Joyo Sweet Baby it's even sweeter!
Thank you Pablo!.
Finally someone who knows how to do a demo Strat neck, OD tone and choice chords. Very Very hard to find the basics in online demos. Strat Neck or P90, Fenderish amp settings, blues crunch mild to moderate, noodle near the nut. After that, ppl go crazy all pup positions, humbuckers etc.
Orange Burst - Like it
Had to sell my BB, need budget version. Orange with bit more bass is close enough. Great demo option. Andy Timmons, E Gypsy. Spark of BFSR and the darker Mesa type Woody Lonestar. Andy is a tone master. Love me some Eric Johnson 2/4 tone/melody, but I like the lose Woody tones foundationally with a managed bright top liek BFSR.
Pablo, if your looking for future pedal demo ideas consider Joyo Vintage OD.
I am trying to listen to more than just crunch range, but musicality of the crunch and open low E. The Joyo has a 3d vibe to it that projects those low open Es nicely and the crunch sounds better to my ears then TS808. I am always on the hunt for a pushed BFSR tone. as a baseline.
Btw, weird I never liked SRV tone when he used the TS.
Always sounded very pinched/Middy/Muffled, but his non TS tunes esp on couldn't stand the weather and Lenny is amazing. Not sure why I am not hearing that in the Joyo Vintage OD pedal. Plus, the Joyo is unique in that if you max out the gain, its still musical!. Its a recent find. Maybe the honeymoon will wear off.
yeah i got the caline and tried the xotic and for the price ofc u get better sound (depending on ears tho), but if play a little with the eq knobs on the caline u can get even closer than the video. pricewice caline 100%
I hear a difference in the Xotic as well, to my ears, it has a fuller rounder tone at these settings. Thanks for the demonstration - this is pretty cool. The Caline would be a nice way to access these tones, though, for someone wanting to try it out.
Thanks for the review. I think its not too late for me to take one of them. I think with the clone is much better according to the budget.. Thanks man
I prefer the sound of the orange bust, sounds less fuzzy. My Orange Burst arrived last week, havent tried it yet, need cords for it, that order hasnt arrived yet. Thanks for posting, its nice to see I made the right choice after I watched this video last week, I ordered the Caline.
May I know the song starting at 0:30? Anyway I just reviewed the BB Preamp MB. I'm astonished on how much these two are close, considering the difference in price!!! 🤐
Tony Samperi Andy Timmons Electric Gypsy
@@Fenderlin6 Thanks Pablo!! 😁
The Mosky XP boost sounds even better and it has internal trim pots to adjust the boost and the frequency of eq!
I have several XPs and the shortcoming is that the boost is almost too much even with the level all the way down.
Sounds pretty darn identical to me :D
great comparison. they really sound pretty close. i hav a caline orange burst, and i use it as another overdrive pedal from tubescreamer clones with boosted mids. it's a great pedal for the price. but i think when u play both of these pedals, there is much difference i guess with how these feels. i mean the warmth of these two pedals i guess hav much difference. the same way i hav played an original tubescreamer pedal before, in comparison with a ts clone. there is huge difference i guess in terms of the warmth of its sounds.
I bought the Mosky B Box instead of the Caline! It's a great pedal and I will post a review of it on my channel shortly. Victor...
Very very close! What some people are calling "warmer" I call "flat". I actually prefer that lil touch of sparkle in the mids,that the Caline imparts on the signal. In the end, sounds are mostly a matter of taste.......
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Great playin! They r identical! Im purchasin an orange, a 2nd hand one, for 20euros! Greetings from Galicia, Spain!
what an amazing sound what are the setting and what are u using? the delay sounds so smooth, and what u play, i love it
Thanks, I'm using a Blackstar HT 60 with a Musicman Silouette Special neck pickup and a SP Comp, Eterna Mr. Black reverb without the shimmer and the Flashback X4 2290 delay!!
thanks, yeah it sounds awesome, a guitar solo above this would be great
I'll have it in mind, Thank You!!
+Pablo Colon Tu pastilla del mástil es single o humbucker?
Texturas75 la que use para el video es single
the same. And if you want more warm or muddy for me turn down high in the caline.
I think the OB sounds cleaner than the BB, or maybe its a bit louder giving it that impression, iether way both sound good.
I have both. I prefer the OB.
People use the credit to have more views, I don't need to put the credit to have more view, I only share it so the people could now from this pedal!! I'm a big fan of Andy Timmons and I now what song is that!!
+Pablo Colon Great playing!
+TheJofrica thankyou!!
Pablo Colon Welcome!
Why you don't move the preset buttoms!!!!???
Josef Inigo i just wanted to demostrate it all at noon!!
What song is he playing??? Its sounds so familiar
ette 44 I was trying to play Electric Gypsy by Andy Timmons Lol
after hearing three notes i subbed bc of the recording quality!
after Mad Professor Simble every pedal is just crust on the cake, and the Caline Orange Burst is one of those crusts I trust! I have two and two Caline Pure Skys also, and theyre great! I didnt like the Simble first, but now I have four and its sadly discontinued, get a Mad Prof Simble or Twimble if you can.....
Well, generally I'd say there's not "that much" difference but the BB I can feel down to my boots. Could be worth the extra dough although I'd be looking for a work around. Not sure why the knobs weren't twisted to see if it could sound as sweet.
What's that you're playing? Love it
andy timmons electric gypsy
couldn't tell much of a sonic difference between the two except for the slight midhump the caline
They are the same circuit and same quality of components, any difference is purely random tolerances which can be compensated with slight adjustments
they are not the same quality and the components are not the same. i have the caline and it has been junk from the get go. it makes a terrible noise and pops when switched.
@@jhue73 well you have been unlucky. I've been building pedals for years so i know about components. Most of them used in either pedal are from the same manufacturers, there is absolutely no difference in quality, and i once had to return a brand new xotic ac booster because the switch failed, so it can happen to any pedal. The only real difference is cosmetic
when i first got it i had to take it apart and remove the output jack and clean some kind of solvent that was under it. i thought that would fix all its problems but it did not. and also the board has been redesigned so its not an exact copy of the bb, the old caline orange burst was. i dont own a bb so i cant compare but i highly doubt they are the same brand components especially the switch, jacks and pots.
@@alanlealferreira4929 100% analog. I cant see why anyone would claim this as digital it is a very close clone of the xotic bb. You can probably find a schematic on line. There are no processors or digital components only analog
I just opened one Caline unit and got the bb preamp esquematic with me. Caline make some "clever" tweak that in fact mask the circuit it was taken from. For example the 2 transistor buffer are not bc550 but another high gain npn. The treble pot was not 100k. It was changed to 50k but look BB Preamp got a 47k resistor im parallel with the pot so caline just put a 50k. See what they did ? Ha ha ha. Another than that ...pretty much a direct copy.
Caline exelente sonido,nada que envidiar al xotic
Estoy muy de acuerdo
...pues yo si les noto diferencia,sobretodo cuando se oye como ataca con la púa las cuerdas agudas,en el BB noto un sonido más gordito,cremoso,definido más "valvulero" ...sin embargo el Caline (aunque bastante logrado en relación a su precio) lo percibo más estridente,menos compacto incluso me parece menos afinado (curioso,¿no?),lo que en España diríamos más chicharrero...por cierto Pablo ,tocas cojonudo al estilo Timmons ;)...¿qué opinas tú que los oyes directo desde el cono del ampli? ,porque no tiene nada que ver que lo que oimos nosotros en un video con auriculares¡¡...Saludos y gracias por hacer ésta buena comparativa¡¡
I hate to admit it, but the Xotic sounds better. I know it's a compressed YT video, but there is a sweetness the BB has that the Caline doesn't seem to. Bummer, because I thought I could cop that tone for 30.00
Yeah I agree. Although if you stacked it with an RC or AC, it might really sing. I have the latter, and can grab the Caline for $40Au. Might be worth it.
oh really. well scroll down so you cant see the clip. start from the start. walk away for a minute. come back so you dont know whats what and guess what?? you wont know which ones which!! so you can cop that tone for $30 bucks.
I have the orange burst and find it very harsh with not much in the way of smooth tones. The bb sounds better on the video....I've since bought a tomsline plexion pedal to go along side .
@@Bluejeanmusic1984 EQ pedal and/or a Compressor-Limiter (any good comp will do but preferably opto-style, subtle) *after* gain can solve those sorts of problems. Most people run a comp pre-gain but after gain is a great way to use it as well. I use two, one pre and one post.
@@Bluejeanmusic1984 Mooer make an excellent, cheap comp (Yellow Comp) and a Nux or Joyo EQ pedal is good enough, Both are inexpenive, if $ is a factor
Really cool demo what gear are you using
Beautiful tone I have to say
I'm using a Blackstar HT Stage 60 and a Musicman Silouhette Special!!
é diferente mas nem por isso deixar de ser bonito!
No comparison... The BB kicks the bollocks out of the Caline.
Let's consider price... for AUD39 delivered the Caline is a freakin awesome pedal... i proudly own one... still saving up for the BB.
PS check out the Caline Pure Sky... serious piece of gear for less than forty bucks.
The Caline CP-18 Orange Burst actually has a warmer creamier sound than the Xotic BB. I gave great ears l...
Tengo el caline cp 18 y es muy buen overdrive.Vale la pena por lo que cuesta.
your music man silhouete have the stock pickups?
Maxwell Almeida Yes sir!!
Whats the name of composition?
Valentine Goloubev Electric Gypsy by Andy Timmons!!
thats right! here is how it sounds on fender with Xotic BB th-cam.com/video/5ndDvlwgvgk/w-d-xo.html
y cual seria tu conclusión Pablo?
Jose miguel Mi conclucion es que estan bien cerca el sonido pero con banda es dificil identificar cual es el BB! Mi consejo es si no tienes el dinero para comprar el BB puedes comprar el Caline y te ahorras mas de $100.00 y sonaras como el BB!!
Pablo Colon muchas gracias por la info, y creó q si comprare el caline, saludos.
thanks for sharing your equipment list with us. The song is not an original demo it is by Andy Timmons and it is called Electric Gypsy. Andy uses a bb preamp and demonstrates this pedal using this exact song and this exact tone (only better obviously). Everybody plays other people's music, it's not a problem but credit should always be given where credit is due
It is a I V vi IV progression. Probably the most used progression in popular western music for the last 60 years....
peligrosamente casi iguales!!!!!!!
En la billetera no tanto así
TURN THE KNOBS!!!!
And the settings aren't exactly the same anyway from what I can tell. Little differences can be big differences.
IMHO, for every $200-300 hard-to-replace pedal on my motherboard I can find a $30-50 Chinese pedal that sounds darn close. Those go on my gigging board because I've yet to find a bar drunk that can tell the difference between my Pettyjohn Chime and this pedal.
I hope your standards are high enough that the bar drunks aren't the people you're trying to please with your music.
@@alexanderking9462 if you're relying on your pedals to impress the crowd, you may want to rethink your playing.
Deberías de hacer tutoríales de técnicas etc. A mí me ayudarían mucho eres tremendo guitarrista te admiro Dtb
Gracias!! A Dios gloria!!
Pablo haz un demo de los nuevos pedales que tienes , saludos
Estoy por subir uno!!
+Pablo Colon eso eh 💪🏻
The BB Preamp is warmer. Orange burst sounds a little harsh to my ears because of its faster attack.
Show vou comprar o meu.....
Andy Timmons detected... kkkkkk
BB was noticeably smoother, fuller, less harsh.
Not by alot, but even a little bit matters.
awesome pedal brought one wonderfull
vou comprar o caline =)
E aí? Presta?
BB has a little more hair to it.
I listened to the comparison "blind"... and I prefered the Caline.
Why does everyone demoing the BB ALWAYS play that Andy Timmons song ? And I didn't see any changes in the control pot settings. What a f-d up[ demo.
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caline amazing clon!!!
Bb sounds fuller caline sounds thinner
Para mi suenan exactamente igual
Andy approves 🤗
orange burst has some added noise and less dynamic, not really close.
Just the same
BB has more definition and transparent
I prefer Caline sorry xotic
I have the cheap orange one and it's the worst pedal I've ever played through. I really can't stress enough how much this Caline pedal sucks the tone out of the signal.
I'm embarrassed to even admit I brought one. Bad, and not the good kind of bad !
Caline orange sounds shitty compared to Xotic BB. The Orange burst is CCC,
Cheap Chinese Crap.