The fact KS already announced the S16 pro with the better battery cells(Samsung 50S) and stronger motor for +$150 makes me excited to see how much of a difference it makes. But 37mph top speed with 48° hill climb on an 84V wheel weighing 30kg. Seems like its designed to be a solid all rounder entry wheel. The S16 seems like a less compromised S19 since you can use third party pads too.
Hello, I have an S18 H, it came with Molicel batteries, of better quality than the current ones used by the S18. They are very safe, you will never have a cut off, but the negative thing is that they had much less autonomy than the standard ones. I tell you this because in addition to all the important things about an EUC, the batteries are essential. Unfortunately the example video is a very bad example, the seller who does the demonstration did it on a normal 16s with LG50 lt batteries and almost had a cut off in the complete demo, if it had not been for the new Kingsong electronics, it is not known. save. In addition, LG stopped selling the LG50 lt batteries. On the other hand, the Kingson 16s PRO uses Samsung 50S batteries, which have the virtue of providing all the power needed at a time, so nothing cuts out. And there will be no danger of any cut off. Greetings
16x with suspension, all you need in a lot of places in a world and for a lot of people who don't wanna go over 30mph. Same price as 16x back in a day, good deal!
Great piece of kit! Great price! Here are my first impressions, a bit raw as I haven't had much time to edit here in Spain. Hope you enjoy this more raw sort of content, let me know if you do, and I'll keep the videos coming.
Thank you for the video. Been looking at this wheel since announced, but haven’t heard much about it since. Weight is my biggest concern now. All the new wheels are too heavy. This checks all the boxes for me, but the weight of the wheel seems to still be a question mark. I’m not a speed demon and not an audiophile. Just want something to commute/goof around on at a reasonable speed, something reliable, durable and with suspension.
I highly considered the s18. But why not wait for the newer tech for pretty much the same price. It all depends on the weight now. If it’s 30 kg or less it’s a hands down winner in my book.
I was gonna get an s18 cause it’s light too, but it’s mostly been sold with the batteries most likely to catch fire (LG M50T). Ewheels now only sells it with different batteries. The s16 has two battery options with higher discharge rates (LG M50LT & Samsung 50s) and it has smart BMS, so seems a lot safer. iCafe have some good videos about it. Also the s16 looks v pretty haha
Bende sizin gibi düşünüyorum mten4 ağırlık konuşunda güzel pratik süspansiyon olmasa da olur ama pilleri ve bms akıllı bms olmadıgından biraz da yağmur suyuna dayanıksız çamurluk vb eksikleri dlduğundan s16 aldım keşke bu da ortaya sliders yerine yaylı bir amortisör taksaydı bu kaydırıcılar bize sarf malzemesi olarak yansıyacak ve sürekli değiştirme ihtiyacımız olacak aslında he kadar parça varsa o kadar sorun olabiliyor tekerlerde
I'm usually commuting on my electric scooter which can go 50km/h and I usually get 30-40km of range. I'm currently looking at this as a replacement because I would feel much more comfortable taking a Euc into a store / restaurant and this seems to fit the bill. I will probably wait to see if there are any major issues with batch 1 tho. My main requirements for a wheel are for it to match the performance and range of my scooter to be able to keep up with city traffic and to not weigh more than 35kg
168V wheels sounds 100% terrifying but if you keep the battery pack small (or even adjustable in physical size) nothing could catch it (for like 5 min at least lol). Glad Spain is treating you well!
Nice to hear a 20 minute independent review on the wheel though a shame you didn't speak more about the actual wheel. Was the rear light on while you were riding - I couldn't see any light on the back. How robust does the wheel feel? Would the trolley handles suit a 6'3" person? Is it faster than the 16X? Any idea of range? Why did they swap the original shock and pads? What's the pedal height like (like your Nikola or up high like the V11)? What's the difference between the S16 and the S 16 Pro?
I didn't really consider this to a be a review, as I only had the wheel for couple days. Didn't really get to go in depth with it, more of an first impressions video. Take my answers with a grain of salt here. It felt robust for a plastic wheel, and will probably survive some damage, and won't be too expensive to replace panels if it is damaged. I think it will be a tiny bit too short for that height, but the guy who owned it, was about that height and loved it. Same speed as 16X but felt more torque. Probably 40-50 miles of range. He didn't like the stock shock, which should be improved on the production model. The pedal height felt perfect, but I can't be more specific, was almost a month ago that I rode it. I didn't know about the S16 Pro, would guess more power.
I knew it would be good but not this good 👏 😍. I still ride my V8F and love it. For sure I'll get get the S16. I'll give it to my 9Yo for a trail wheel too .
Anyone know what performance pads he has on that beautiful s16. I want a set for my s16 pro. I’m a smaller guy so need something better than what they give you
I’ve been waiting for the right upgrade for my 16x, and the S16 Pro might just fit the bill. I want a little more speed and suspension. I don’t want something crazy fast, and most importantly I want a wheel that won’t destroy my back if I need to carry it up stairs. Is see Kingsong will be at CES. I hope I get a chance to see it there.
Looks like a fun wheel from the initial impression. My buddy is looking for a wheel and I think the Commander GT would be a great choice for him but Idk if he should wait for the Pro...
The GT is great value, I've seen it for $2450 which is the same price as a S19. The pro will likely be 4k +, and I'm not sure I need that much power and speed on 18inch tire...if its 22inch might be more interested
Hello, a fact, the change between normal and pro of the kingsong s16 is something else. The Samsung 50S batteries give you all the power you need to accelerate at full power (of course with the batteries at more than 50% of course) and you will never experience the quasi cut off that happened to you in the video. You should try doing the same but with a pro and you will see that everything flies. Greetings
Looking to begin my euc journey at 71 years of age. Been looking at this particular wheel. One thing is, what if you’re SEATED and grab the front bar..will it cutoff or can you disable that?
That's a great comparison video. Personally I'd prefer the S16 for the more compact size, tire, lights, and speakers. But I'm not sure it's much of an upgrade in terms of power or range.
How in the world does a firmware update cause a tire to start rubbing? The tire is on a physical axle and only spins in one direction, which firmware obviously has nothing to do with, so curious what you meant by making the wheel “spin differently?”
Thanks for the Commander Pro commentary. I pre-ordered one but, having a little FOMO rn with with the lynx coming, even the smaller GT is stlll promising. You'll probably get your 50s PRO before i do. So, please update us/me on the 90/90 tire if you can get it. I still think its gonna be top wheel for 2024 if that really matters. But, i know newer wheels are coming next year with "better" specs. I try not to play the spec game because your just chasing your tail so to speak. But, we'll see the 50s Pro should stil be top wheels for 2024
Could you tell me more about battery sag and speed limits? Does this wheel behaves like the 18xl (big limitation on speed after 50% battery )or more like the nikola which lets you almost kill yourself riding at 40 at 5% battery? I hope its the latter 😂
I want to get into the hobby, so I am thinking to have de ks s16 as my first wheel, will you recommend it to a new user? My other two options are commander mini and v11y, price is pretty close. Can you comment what do you think about those vs the s16? I am on the heavy side, don’t think I will do trails, but having suspension will be nice.
sure MC, can you give me an idea of the heavy side? The V11Y I'd avoid for now, I heard they're doing a recall. The S16 as long as you buy from a good dealer its a good choice, and I'm thinking of getting one. The Mini is probably the most solid choice for you, but its really heavy to start on, mine as well go for a Lynx :)
@@ZenLee I weight around 110kg. My goal is to have the wheel on the trunk of my car all the time, whenever I travel somewhere, I’d use the euc to explore the city or area in the euc. When you say it might be heavy to start with, you mean will be difficult to get used to it? I have seen the lynx, looks lovely but it is a bit over the budget I plan on dedicating to the hobby for now. I have seen you love it !
@@MC-ny7iw like starting with a heavier weight at the gym than your muscles are used to. At your weight, I'd avoid the 84V Wheels, although the S16 can support your weight, I don't think you'll get much range or enjoyment(I could be wrong). The mini maybe your only option, but I'm not sure you'll like the smaller 16inch tire. I'd definetly consider a Lynx or Sherman S, they will have a higher learning curve, but you won't outgrow them so quickly.
@@ZenLee thanks for taking the time to give your feedback very much appreciated, I am a recent subscriber but i watch all you publish, keep the good work, vibe and good luck in upcoming competitions ! Abrazo
@@DiegoJ1023I made a video about it, think it was the previous one with UStride on the cover. Basically it changes the rotational angle and it was grinding on the inner shell. We had to change back to the stock tire after the update.
@@andyl2991 its super affordable if you're a frugal type of person, and don't need to live in the city centers or eat out. Portugual is probably a better option if you want an even more affordable EU country to live in.
I have a Mini. I love it! Never wanted a 20 inch wheel but I have to say, since Leaperkim releases very few wheels and have generally good quality and high availability of parts for years, I believe the Lynx is gonna be the first 20” wheel that I own. Looks very fast and powerful.
@RogueTravel so far I've only owned the RS19 HS and Commander HT. Both are considered 20" class. I love em. Haven't had the chance to ride a 16" wheel yet. I believe the Mini will have the same nimbleness of the RS19.
Superb video and a very big thank you to you! I don't know if you've ever been able to ride a Begode T4 but I think the comparison would be perfect because the two wheels seem extremely similar, do you think the torque of the T4 is better or not? And do you think we can use a cross tire for light trails?
You're welcome, and thanks for the comment. The T4 Is a 100v wheel so will have more top speed and I think bigger battery, but doesn't have all the extra bells and whistles ie lights and speakers. The S19 is more in line with the T4 and maybe S16 pro. Offroading will be no problem for either.
@@ZenLee The s19 does not interest me, I find it far too expensive for what it is, knowing that it does not have an already basic all-terrain tire in addition to the well-known powerpad problems...(at this point stage Begode Extreme is much better) The T4 pro on paper is actually more interesting but after seeing some tests I don't have the impression that the top speed is greater than that of the s16 pro...maybe the autonomy actually but if I can do 45 miles on fairly versatile terrain, that's more than enough for me.
The fact KS already announced the S16 pro with the better battery cells(Samsung 50S) and stronger motor for +$150 makes me excited to see how much of a difference it makes. But 37mph top speed with 48° hill climb on an 84V wheel weighing 30kg. Seems like its designed to be a solid all rounder entry wheel. The S16 seems like a less compromised S19 since you can use third party pads too.
definitely I was thinking about buying the S19, but the pads are a bit of a turn off, I didn't know about the S16 Pro, sounds like a winner to me
Hello, I have an S18 H, it came with Molicel batteries, of better quality than the current ones used by the S18. They are very safe, you will never have a cut off, but the negative thing is that they had much less autonomy than the standard ones.
I tell you this because in addition to all the important things about an EUC, the batteries are essential.
Unfortunately the example video is a very bad example, the seller who does the demonstration did it on a normal 16s with LG50 lt batteries and almost had a cut off in the complete demo, if it had not been for the new Kingsong electronics, it is not known. save.
In addition, LG stopped selling the LG50 lt batteries.
On the other hand, the Kingson 16s PRO uses Samsung 50S batteries, which have the virtue of providing all the power needed at a time, so nothing cuts out. And there will be no danger of any cut off. Greetings
16x with suspension, all you need in a lot of places in a world and for a lot of people who don't wanna go over 30mph. Same price as 16x back in a day, good deal!
exactly!
Great piece of kit! Great price! Here are my first impressions, a bit raw as I haven't had much time to edit here in Spain. Hope you enjoy this more raw sort of content, let me know if you do, and I'll keep the videos coming.
The long casual ride was just lovely
Inmotion V11 user. That looks amazing. $2,000 isn't too bad. It definitely makes me want to get one asap.
Thank you for the video. Been looking at this wheel since announced, but haven’t heard much about it since.
Weight is my biggest concern now. All the new wheels are too heavy. This checks all the boxes for me, but the weight of the wheel seems to still be a question mark.
I’m not a speed demon and not an audiophile. Just want something to commute/goof around on at a reasonable speed, something reliable, durable and with suspension.
I'm easily able to lift the S19 and S16 with one arm and I'm pretty skinny dude. But maybe I'm used to lifting bigger wheels 🤔🤙
The best possibility for you is the Kingsong S18 which weighs only 27 kg
I highly considered the s18. But why not wait for the newer tech for pretty much the same price. It all depends on the weight now. If it’s 30 kg or less it’s a hands down winner in my book.
I was gonna get an s18 cause it’s light too, but it’s mostly been sold with the batteries most likely to catch fire (LG M50T). Ewheels now only sells it with different batteries.
The s16 has two battery options with higher discharge rates (LG M50LT & Samsung 50s) and it has smart BMS, so seems a lot safer. iCafe have some good videos about it. Also the s16 looks v pretty haha
Bende sizin gibi düşünüyorum mten4 ağırlık konuşunda güzel pratik süspansiyon olmasa da olur ama pilleri ve bms akıllı bms olmadıgından biraz da yağmur suyuna dayanıksız çamurluk vb eksikleri dlduğundan s16 aldım keşke bu da ortaya sliders yerine yaylı bir amortisör taksaydı bu kaydırıcılar bize sarf malzemesi olarak yansıyacak ve sürekli değiştirme ihtiyacımız olacak aslında he kadar parça varsa o kadar sorun olabiliyor tekerlerde
This wheel is low key awesome. I'm shocked that it isn't getting more coverage and reviews. Not everybody has the dough to splurge on a Lynx.
Think I'm going to get one next week. Such a great price point for what you get.
I'm usually commuting on my electric scooter which can go 50km/h and I usually get 30-40km of range.
I'm currently looking at this as a replacement because I would feel much more comfortable taking a Euc into a store / restaurant and this seems to fit the bill. I will probably wait to see if there are any major issues with batch 1 tho.
My main requirements for a wheel are for it to match the performance and range of my scooter to be able to keep up with city traffic and to not weigh more than 35kg
Me too but i’d like 30kg or less
168V wheels sounds 100% terrifying but if you keep the battery pack small (or even adjustable in physical size) nothing could catch it (for like 5 min at least lol).
Glad Spain is treating you well!
168v sounds insane! I'm still trying to master the 134v wheels!
I am new to this and the KS S16 pro looks to be an amazing first wheel for me. I am just wanting to wait to see reviews and range is my only concern.
Lol that beep then slight dip. crazy man. good riding.
10 miles and no problems! outstanding results )))))
How is the riding height clearance? Is it the same height as v11?
Nice to hear a 20 minute independent review on the wheel though a shame you didn't speak more about the actual wheel. Was the rear light on while you were riding - I couldn't see any light on the back. How robust does the wheel feel? Would the trolley handles suit a 6'3" person? Is it faster than the 16X? Any idea of range? Why did they swap the original shock and pads? What's the pedal height like (like your Nikola or up high like the V11)? What's the difference between the S16 and the S 16 Pro?
I didn't really consider this to a be a review, as I only had the wheel for couple days.
Didn't really get to go in depth with it, more of an first impressions video.
Take my answers with a grain of salt here. It felt robust for a plastic wheel, and will probably survive some damage, and won't be too expensive to replace panels if it is damaged. I think it will be a tiny bit too short for that height, but the guy who owned it, was about that height and loved it. Same speed as 16X but felt more torque. Probably 40-50 miles of range. He didn't like the stock shock, which should be improved on the production model. The pedal height felt perfect, but I can't be more specific, was almost a month ago that I rode it.
I didn't know about the S16 Pro, would guess more power.
@@ZenLeeMany thanks, appreciate all the info.
thanks for the comments and support @@mikebikekite1
I knew it would be good but not this good 👏 😍.
I still ride my V8F and love it. For sure I'll get get the S16. I'll give it to my 9Yo for a trail wheel too .
The S16 surprised me, can't believe how much power it delivers at 84v, with a sweet tire, and tons of features!
Anyone know what performance pads he has on that beautiful s16. I want a set for my s16 pro. I’m a smaller guy so need something better than what they give you
I’ve been waiting for the right upgrade for my 16x, and the S16 Pro might just fit the bill. I want a little more speed and suspension. I don’t want something crazy fast, and most importantly I want a wheel that won’t destroy my back if I need to carry it up stairs.
Is see Kingsong will be at CES. I hope I get a chance to see it there.
the weight seems very close to the S19, although I imagined that it would be much more suitable for comuting, normal ?
Looks like a fun wheel from the initial impression. My buddy is looking for a wheel and I think the Commander GT would be a great choice for him but Idk if he should wait for the Pro...
The GT is great value, I've seen it for $2450 which is the same price as a S19. The pro will likely be 4k +, and I'm not sure I need that much power and speed on 18inch tire...if its 22inch might be more interested
Nice clean setup👍
I really liked your video. I started with ks S16 but I've never ridden, I think I'll have difficulty learning and. a heavy unicycle
I've made a video with tips on how to learn on heavy EUC
Hello, a fact, the change between normal and pro of the kingsong s16 is something else. The Samsung 50S batteries give you all the power you need to accelerate at full power (of course with the batteries at more than 50% of course) and you will never experience the quasi cut off that happened to you in the video. You should try doing the same but with a pro and you will see that everything flies. Greetings
Which tyres are good and dont slip on wet road.
For the s16, the stock tire is amazing
Looking to begin my euc journey at 71 years of age. Been looking at this particular wheel. One thing is, what if you’re SEATED and grab the front bar..will it cutoff or can you disable that?
Eevees already demonstrated that doesn't happen when riding , S19 video
The S16's sensor is on the rear so no worries on accidental cutouts there.
How would you compare the S16 to the V11? Thinking of replacing it
That's a great comparison video. Personally I'd prefer the S16 for the more compact size, tire, lights, and speakers. But I'm not sure it's much of an upgrade in terms of power or range.
How in the world does a firmware update cause a tire to start rubbing? The tire is on a physical axle and only spins in one direction, which firmware obviously has nothing to do with, so curious what you meant by making the wheel “spin differently?”
Thanks for the Commander Pro commentary. I pre-ordered one but, having a little FOMO rn with with the lynx coming, even the smaller GT is stlll promising. You'll probably get your 50s PRO before i do. So, please update us/me on the 90/90 tire if you can get it. I still think its gonna be top wheel for 2024 if that really matters. But, i know newer wheels are coming next year with "better" specs. I try not to play the spec game because your just chasing your tail so to speak. But, we'll see the 50s Pro should stil be top wheels for 2024
Yes the 50S Pro on paper sounds great, and the Lynx is looking strong as well!
That’s a pretty cool machine !
I would still prefer the Begode T4 or now the T4 pro.
Could you tell me more about battery sag and speed limits? Does this wheel behaves like the 18xl (big limitation on speed after 50% battery )or more like the nikola which lets you almost kill yourself riding at 40 at 5% battery?
I hope its the latter 😂
Then if you have any tips on how to configure the lights and so on, make a video
I want to get into the hobby, so I am thinking to have de ks s16 as my first wheel, will you recommend it to a new user? My other two options are commander mini and v11y, price is pretty close. Can you comment what do you think about those vs the s16? I am on the heavy side, don’t think I will do trails, but having suspension will be nice.
sure MC, can you give me an idea of the heavy side? The V11Y I'd avoid for now, I heard they're doing a recall. The S16 as long as you buy from a good dealer its a good choice, and I'm thinking of getting one. The Mini is probably the most solid choice for you, but its really heavy to start on, mine as well go for a Lynx :)
@@ZenLee I weight around 110kg. My goal is to have the wheel on the trunk of my car all the time, whenever I travel somewhere, I’d use the euc to explore the city or area in the euc. When you say it might be heavy to start with, you mean will be difficult to get used to it? I have seen the lynx, looks lovely but it is a bit over the budget I plan on dedicating to the hobby for now. I have seen you love it !
@@MC-ny7iw like starting with a heavier weight at the gym than your muscles are used to.
At your weight, I'd avoid the 84V Wheels, although the S16 can support your weight, I don't think you'll get much range or enjoyment(I could be wrong). The mini maybe your only option, but I'm not sure you'll like the smaller 16inch tire. I'd definetly consider a Lynx or Sherman S, they will have a higher learning curve, but you won't outgrow them so quickly.
@@ZenLee thanks for taking the time to give your feedback very much appreciated, I am a recent subscriber but i watch all you publish, keep the good work, vibe and good luck in upcoming competitions ! Abrazo
Where did you get your pads from?
Which city is this? Really good bike lanes for EUC riding.
Gijón
Super water proof!? Dam if its zenlee approved i approve
I am so excited for this wheel! EWHEELS PRE ORDER PAGE HURRY UP
Are you ever going back to Vegas?!
Possible!
I think we're witnessing a new shift in the evolution of the wheels to safer, lighter, better built, more reliable wheels
Better bass than s19?
Think it's the same.
Can you elaborate a bit more about how the firmware made your tire not fit properly?
On the C Pro?
@@ZenLee yes. You mentioned it around 5:30
@@DiegoJ1023I made a video about it, think it was the previous one with UStride on the cover. Basically it changes the rotational angle and it was grinding on the inner shell. We had to change back to the stock tire after the update.
No issues after 10 miles? Lol
are you visiting Spain or do you live there now?
I've been here for about 7 months now, so I guess I'm living here now :) But do plan on leaving after the urban race in Dec. to Asia. But we'll see.
@ZenLee oh wow, that's amazing!! I would love to travel around the world but need a remote type of job. How's the cost of living there?
@@andyl2991 its super affordable if you're a frugal type of person, and don't need to live in the city centers or eat out. Portugual is probably a better option if you want an even more affordable EU country to live in.
@@ZenLee ah ok thanks for the info. I would love to visit Portugal
i want one😱
Dam where is this?
Gijón
What's the range like on this wheel ?
I'm not to sure, didn't' get to go to deep into reviewing it as I only had it for a few days. But I think I could get 40-50 miles out of it.
@@ZenLee that makes sense reduced voltage lower speed equals more range ,I was wondering if the range is like the 16x
how heavy is it?
i see 33kg
It felt lighter than 33kg, but I didn't weight it.
The crappy display yaw. Tell kingsong we can read, pls give us a usable display with real wheel feedback.
красивый город. дождь = чистый воздух. у владельцев автомобилей проблемы с парковкой.
Ayyy that Money Trees by Kendrick goes hard huh? 🔥🔥
great song, on some dope speakers
finally an S18 replacement!
Eeeh it's over 20 lbs heavier. The S18 is still the lightest suspension EUC.
@@HerricktheMildlyPerturbedI added extra batteries and that is how much my s18 weighs now
Commander GT Pro
Commander Mini
Kingsong S16
Those are the 3 I really want as my 3 new Gen wheels.
no lynx?
I have a Mini. I love it! Never wanted a 20 inch wheel but I have to say, since Leaperkim releases very few wheels and have generally good quality and high availability of parts for years, I believe the Lynx is gonna be the first 20” wheel that I own. Looks very fast and powerful.
@RogueTravel so far I've only owned the RS19 HS and Commander HT. Both are considered 20" class. I love em.
Haven't had the chance to ride a 16" wheel yet.
I believe the Mini will have the same nimbleness of the RS19.
Begode shock?
Save some Bussy for the rest of us
Superb video and a very big thank you to you! I don't know if you've ever been able to ride a Begode T4 but I think the comparison would be perfect because the two wheels seem extremely similar, do you think the torque of the T4 is better or not? And do you think we can use a cross tire for light trails?
You're welcome, and thanks for the comment. The T4 Is a 100v wheel so will have more top speed and I think bigger battery, but doesn't have all the extra bells and whistles ie lights and speakers. The S19 is more in line with the T4 and maybe S16 pro. Offroading will be no problem for either.
@@ZenLee The s19 does not interest me, I find it far too expensive for what it is, knowing that it does not have an already basic all-terrain tire in addition to the well-known powerpad problems...(at this point stage Begode Extreme is much better)
The T4 pro on paper is actually more interesting but after seeing some tests I don't have the impression that the top speed is greater than that of the s16 pro...maybe the autonomy actually but if I can do 45 miles on fairly versatile terrain, that's more than enough for me.
:D dream on....
I wouldn't be riding in the rain
So my 16X is officially obsolete!
never, the 16X is a classic and reliable
Were there any cutouts? Top speed 50 km/h?
no cutouts, think 60km
S16pro Have you ever driven at a speed of 60 km/h? Or is it okay to run at 55 km/h?