King-Song S16 First Impressions - The Underdog!
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Recently got the S16 Pro myself, it's a decently fun wheel! Reminds me of my old V11 with better suspension and better quality.
S16 Pro is my first EUC, and now also my only vehicle. It's great! I commute 10miles a day, and make full use of the 35mph top speed.
A real test in real life with real stairs and real sidewalks! Thanks for the quality of this video. I think it won't be long before I replace my 16s with the s16!
Good review.
Thank you so much !!!
Price has been the thing stopping me from getting an EUC. Seeing someone make one reasonable makes me excited.
Whee!!!
Indeed ! I've been eyeing EUCs for so long and stopped myself getting one because of the big prices they are being sold, it's nice to see prices coming down gradually
I still like the RGB light-shows, and speakers on EUCs. I'm glad the Kingsong is still doing this with their new wheels. Also, it would be nice to see a performance / everyday use comparison between 50s and 50Gb cell packs of the same watt-hours in a later video.
Iwould have love this for a first wheel ...really a nice package for beginner
Agree! I gave this wheel to some people to test out as a first time on an EUC and it’s really manageable!
Thanks for this review, I was waiting for it!
Looking forward to the full S16 Pro review!
Thank you so much for the super thanks! Cheers!
Cheaper and still capable EUC? I'm back in the chat!
WOO-HOO! Welcome back!
Excellent Review! If i was starting now, I would seriously consider this as my first wheel. Since I started almost 2 years ago with the S18 (which has been great), now I'm going to move on to a bigger, faster, better wheel, like the Lynx.
tra questa e la s18 cosa mi consigli come prima ruota?
Jak zawsze Pro filmik, zacny sprzecik 🍻
Great first impressions, finally a “ light” suspension wheel 😊 I’m agree with you about the tire (CST 131 I guess), I put it on my Patton and it’s a game changer, perfect mix for on and off road! But you put 40 PSI on your tire, I just put 32 for my 180 lbs 😅
That’s actually the perfect sized wheel for me..Currently on a V12HT, which I really enjoy, but it made me realise that I really don’t want a wheel much bigger or heavier…it would be a pain in the azz to live with for me.. Adam..do you think friends at Kinetic will be making Nylonove pedals and pads for this wheel? They really are so good.. Also, to say… Yes..Myewheel is a brilliant company to deal with, I have bought every wheel from them, and they’ve always been excellent.. Top People..Highly recommended 👍👍 .. Great video as always…many thanks!
Hi thankyou I bought the s16pro it turned up 5/12/24, your review is the best!
Congrats!
This seems like Kingsong's entrant to the category up till now reigned by the Begode T4, and before that the Inmotion V11. Do you think this wheel holds it's own against the T4 (which is known to be a reliable and repairable wheel) as a commuter? If the suspension is smoother and feels nice, or if it does better against rain, maybe so! Thanks for the look at this wheel
@@Rapha194 non arriva mai la risposta
Great review, beautiful wheel and the price it’s fair…
I’m convinced…
Thanks ! 🙏
Looks like some good competition for the T4 as a first wheel
I've got mine coming on April 20th
Mine comes in Monday !!! How do you like the wheel ??
40 degree incline on an 84v suspension wheel? Kingsong may be considered lackluster in many performance areas, but they are really good at torque delivery for the package.
16x was my first wheel and I had some of the best EUC times on it, even offroad. Having a suspension version and even a pro version that can go 60kph as a first wheel would be phenomenal for me back 3 years ago, I would probably skip out both on my v12hs purchase and begode master purchase.
The S16 should be an interesting EUC and I think the pricing is ok. Thanks for your impressions and the great video as always 😊
Loved my quick zip on it, thought it felt great quality.
Great content, as always. I'm considering a different lightweight wheel for my short trips. I use an RS19 HS and like it a lot, but when it's dark, it's nice to have suspension for the surprise bumps.
Thanks for yet another review Adam, much appreciate your work :)
Im looking for a new commuter, all year wheel, and Ive been excited to hear about the S16 (Pro). Sadly, the non-IP rating scares me. I cannot understand why EUC manufacturers wont make IP rating standard... Sure, I could use a backpack raincover (like I have done on my 16X), but you still ride with the constant uncertainty of 'is there water spraying up into the wheel, am i slowly destroying my wheel, will I have a sudden cutout due to rain ingress). Its not the thought you want to have while riding these fantastic machines.
The price, size, weight, power (for city commuting) and suspension is awesome on this wheel.. Im just not sure it will hold up with scandinavian 'all year' riding.
My other option has been InMotion V14 and V11Y. Im leaning towards V14 just because it seems to be a very easy wheel to work on when having to do maintanance, but the its probably more power than I really need, much more weight than I want, and really expensive.
The V11Y seems to be a very nice, tried and true wheel, BUT looks to be a pain to work on.. So many screws! And Id be afraid to void any waterproofing having to remove 'goop' from the mother board when disconnecting so many wires just for a damn tyre change.
Anyways! Looking forward to your S16 Pro review as well^^
Also, will you be reviewing the V14 and V11Y as well in the future?
Cheers!
I have the S16 Pro with 50S battery. It is a very good wheel for the price. I dislike the pedals and waiting for eRides or Nylonove to create aftermarket pedals for it. I can confirm that there is a seat for the S16 since I already have it installed on mine. Wheel is a little too low for me to comfortable ride seated but it's good to sit on when you are at an intersection waiting for a green light. It does not have the solid build quality as an Inmotion V14 but, then again, the S16 Pro is a lot less expensive.
Where did you get the seat? I could only find an aftermarket one on Alibaba. I agree it's quite low though.
i just puchased one today ! purchased and inmotion v8s for 650 4 days ago and this is my upgrade wheel stoked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had airtag on my V5F and I saw how it was transported from Belgium on road to a harbor in Spain, then to a harbor in Morocco and it ended up in Bni Drar. Not much I can do about it.
😮
I love my S16 Pro. It’s has it all in a small package. 😊
My s16 Pro is not taking a charge just started yesterday haven't even had it for a month yet how did the 11 for a month sent that crap back to Amazon as quick as possible bought a T4 from ewheels and then a s16 pro I love both of the wheels and it is very pleasant dealing with ewheels
Looks really nice capable enough & compact EUC
Thanks for the review 👍🏼
great video, I was waiting for your review of this wheel!!! Thank you!!!
whoa that slide away plate is awesome, ex30 vibes.
no waterproofing 😞, i still use the 16S and use it in light rain/wet conditions and looking for replacement since the 166S is 5 or 6 years old.
the S16 looks like a good replacement for everyday use (take it onto the train, throw it in the car, just have it with you)
lets see if the pro is worth the 200€ extra.
I rode it-it's a great wheel. You can't find better for this money. Power, features, suspension. Everything is at an excellent level for its price. 👍 The only thing is, I would put custom pedals.
On my S16 Pro, the pedals don't squeak. Also, the velcro is continuous across the side, so I didn't even know that plate could slide out (guess I would have to cut the velcro for that) and thus the plate doesn't slide off on its own or cause that clicking problem.
Cool! So they addressed quite a bit of things’
There are little screw stoppers that keep them from sliding out, maybe yours fell out.
looking at the many releases from past year and this one, i think in this segment the commander mini is more the underdog and it seems way more powerful and durable, but this looked like an interesting affordable/portable ride
I'm watching all these reviews very carefully. My 16X is amazing and upgrading to a suspension wheel that's still a reasonable size and cost is very tempting. I've heard it loses out on some range, but that might be worth the tradeoff
if it can accomodate a nice wide tire, that can make up for not being 18+ inch diameter. Onewheel rides very smoothly on a wide tire
in terms of these issues like squeaking or missing spacers i would like to see how effective solutions from a local hardware store would be, like some grease or plastic washers for example
Nice first Impressions Video. Two Thumbs Up 👍👍😃
Thank you !!!
I couldn’t find an IP rating ( water/dustproof ) but everything else looks perfect! Thanks, Adam!
Sadly there is none :/ you’re welcome! Cheers :)
Whoooo Kingsong S16 Cant wait!
Let’s goooooo
I like my smaller wheel, fang round the orchard, very handy.
Hi Mr_Wrooongway and thanks for the video ! If you had to choose between the S18 and the S16 ? Which one ? 😊
Can't wait for the Falcon which will be much lighter for barely less performance :-)
What is the best wheel for a full-time parcel delivery manager aka "courier" within a city, to be specific: in Warsaw during summertime ?
I will make a video about that! Stay tuned!
Nice, finally the EUC review 👍🏻
Salut Adam elle est pas mal la S16 et surtout ça parait tellement facile à utiliser lorsqu'on te voit évoluer bien que je sais que ce n'est pas le le cas 😁😜😋👶🛴🔥
Just got a call from PET London, S16 demo arrived I get a test drive Saturday. I will wait for the Pro, I'll be checking those spacers thanks! Range test pls and remind us your height/weight. I'm 66 and hope 32kg is manageable.
Great video as always. I have a 16xs that I commute to work on the beach in Maceió-AL Brazil every day. I'm your fan! Here is very beautiful. Come here and ride a unicycle. Big hug.
Im very tempted with this one. 2k for euc with suspension is what ive been looking for. If only living costs werent 90% of my income.
jk i bought a s16 pro
at 4:36 what site is that? looks historical and super interesting place to visit . lol I know this is about the s16 .
Is there a way to turn off the RGB lights?
With the latest light control firmware you can turn them off
Great video. Compare S16 to S19, I believe that many potential buyers are torn between those two wheels. I also think that Pro versions with 50S batteries are also worth testing, they should be even better than ordinary non-pro versions.
Indeed I was torn between those two. Instead of buying the S19 I held out for the S16 Pro, and I think it was the right choice for the price.
Thank you for the video!
To me the trolley must be in middle, I have ruin one floor with trolley at the end 😅😅
Qual amortecedor tá usando nesse s16pro gostaria de colocar no meu S16 também , gostei do vídeo parabéns
this is old susspension which was on non pro versions but the suspension support shaft was bending so they bring new spring-loaded susspension for pro version with turned bushings which are not bending anymore so its lifetime is extended very much
How did you fix the BMS problem? I have the same problem, but firmware is up to date and no updates available!!
I will wait for performance comparison between S16 and S16 pro.
I live in the roaring 40's (Way down South. Even further South. Keep going.)
There are mighty gusts of cross winds. I ride an S22. The gusts want to blow me into the traffic.
So Which is more suited for crosswinds; the gyroscopic effect of the Big wheel, or the nimbleness of the smaller?
I think lesser surface area helps a lot and a street tire ;)
I'm looking for a city commuting wheel, to complement my speed/group ride wheel. This seems like its more up to the job. It seems perfect for a medium size commute (the roads round here are terrible and cars are maniacs in SUVs)
в моем городе тоже самое
hi mr wrongway 8) thx for your videos....which euc would you prefer as newbie if you were 190 tall and weighed 105kg and mostly drove in the city? InMotion V12 or King-Song S16 or other one wich cost around 2000 eur?
What size wheels for beginners, I bough the mten mini..
I think we're witnessing a new shift in the evolution of the wheels to safer, lighter, better built, more reliable wheels
hi Adam. great video as always. how about cell balancing? does this wheel meet basic battery safety standards in your estimation?
Yes it does :) I did hear about some issues with balancing on some units though. I hope KS software gets it under control. Mine is all good
@@mr_wrongway good to know. thank you :)
Does anybody put Grizzla or Nylonove on this wheel? Or is it good with only stock pads🤔
How about the pro version for 2024? Is it worth paying extra for a more powerful engine?
I will test it too! Watch the whole video ;)
@@mr_wrongway I watched it, sorry, patience is not my strong point and I wrote it right away 😅 I want to buy it for my first wheel because it's not much more expensive than the 16x :) greetings from Płock :)
The pro version is unquestionably worth it. Not dealing with voltage sag is amazing
I have the pro. The max speed is lifted, and batteries are upgraded, but I'm not sure there's a "more powerful engine".
I am still looking for a alternative for my veteran patton since it weights almost as much as me (i weigh 55kg max) but its difficult because i want something with comparable (min 60km) range and also a good water resistance since i use it for all my commutes and i cant have it suffer from a bit of rain. Do you have anymore suggestions or would you say the s16/pro is good enough it being lighter doesnt matter as much as i have become quite nimble with my patton
No Ip rating it's probably resistance but it won't hold up to water or warranty. And it lacks the range.
Which one do you prefer Inmotion V11 or KS S16 Pro?
Topp Video. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
How about noise level. Is the S16 a quiet wheel?
I nearly bought the S16PRO but decided against it and instead bought a Begode T4 pro.
The wheel looks cool but I have the feeling that it's not that easy to maintain because of how it's built.
I bought a Fairing for the t4 pro from EUC clubhouse what makes that wheel really great and protected.
What do you think about the T4PRO?
It has 25% more torque than the normal T4 paired with all the latest upgrades like the raptor controller metal battery causing and stuff....there is even a version with 50s cells
Congrats on your purchase! I don’t review wheels without smart bms. Begode offered me one but I declined :/ I know it’s not a dealbreaker for some but as a reviewer I need to draw the line :/
The tyre reminds me of the Heidenau K38
It’s much more rideable though!
Hi ! What is the brand of tire please?
Is it the same as on your Patton review?
It is Manlung 16x3 hybrid tire. It says on the tire as made in Taiwan. I think mine is Batch 1 coz i had it as a pre-order from eWheels. On the 2nd batch, i think it's a different Hybrid tire now called "Dalishen brand".
It’s a CST 131 tire
Lights, no white light showing to rear, another common rule.
If a plate bulb lights the plate then bulb is not seen directly from the rear.
Do you think I could do a 55km trip on the s16 pro?
I'm 80kg, and let's say I would be driving 40km/h on average, no wind and 20c temperature
hello brother I got s16 pro aswell i was range testing 38 km/h on average and did 69 km and had 5 % battery left, fun wheel but when you send it 50-60 km/h on average you can drive only 30-40 KM in max, i did completly disassemble and complete maintence three times and got full eletronic in slicone gell and also replace some parts which i milled on cnc for better drive ability and my mileage is 548 km in two weeks, extreme good cheap wheel if you know how to take care of the machine.
Just if you know what
Bugs charging issue happened to me, connect to the app and reset the bms both temporary solved, till kingsong update the firmwre
Got you. How do you reset them?
@@mr_wrongway ask kingsong for the "KS tuner app" they will give you a link for download.
@@mr_wrongwayask kingsong for the "KS tuner app" they will give you a link for download.
@@mr_wrongway soft tuner
would you say s16 replaces you16s and 14d?
No. The 14D is still much lighter and smaller. Maybe the 16S it does 👍
What are the caveats of KingSong?
Soon I’ll release a big video on all manufacturers 🤘🏻
Would have like to see 100v and 60km/h for some extra headroom
There’s the S19 :)
@@mr_wrongway sure but I want it in the s16 formfactor
S16 pro does 60km/h.
@@parodoxis really ? It's only 84v
@@dante19890 yup
After the release of this S16 for several weeks already, there is still no one to compare it to the T4 pro which is clearly the equivalent but less expensive and more powerful... When will we have a real comparison with real arguments?
To be fair. In europe as far as I know the s16 even the pro is cheaper than t4/pro
I wish that the T4 would be as cheap in Europe but it isnt😢
S16 vs V11Y? Comments.
I feel smthng wrong... 33Kg is not heavy... s18 is 25Kg and i feel it`s heavy enough already and it`s the lightest wheel among ones with suspension
Uh, what do you have against diesel vans?
Their emmisions, noise
@@mr_wrongway asking for a friend 😁!
@@Secret4us there very little things I hated so much as this van. I don’t think I’ll be able to live with it
@@mr_wrongway Well, hopefully, it's not a Toyota, one of which I've been seeking to purchase. I have an old GM Astro, that I'll say has been an extremely effective way of turning fossil fuels into heat, but is also an effective cavernous transporter just the same.
@@Secret4us Yeaah welp I’ll be looking for a small EV now I guess. I’ll do one more adventure in the van just to make sure that that’s the problem.
Wish we could have a 70kph capable S19 Pro, or a 100v 70kph S16. There's no reason a 100v wheel with 50S batteries should be limited to 60kph in 2024
this or begode t4 pro????
I won’t review begode t4 pro - it has no smart bms
S16 or T4 ? 😁
T4 has no smart bms, I don’t test wheels without one :)
T4 is a 100v wheel, s16 is 84v wheel, you cannot compare those directly.
@@andrewkosenko2757 Of course you do can compare these 2 wheels :
- Both are recent design wheel
- Both 16inch
- Both ~30kg
- Both ~ same speed
- Both have good enough suspension
- Both are low in price
- Both are similaire in use
- Both have included pads
- 2500w with more voltage VS 2800w with less voltage
There are only few differences (tyre, some options, battery capacity...) which makes it relevant to compare.
So sad WW doesnt want to. 🙂
I was getting frustrated waiting and nearly went T4, can't wait till Saturday for a test drive
@@raphaelg8801 i’ve ridden both and own t4. I can safely go 50 and even s bit more on t4, but it’s not safe to go 50km/h on s16 unless you have full charge. S16 has better suspension and weight balance and pedal algorithms, feels much lighter when riding. You really shouldn’t compare motor watts tbh, because the motor is not a defining factor, the battery and the controller matters much, much more.
I got half way through this video wondering why they redesigned this wheel, before I realized I was confusing it with the S19! 😂
Haha I don’t blame you! KS is making very similar wheels!
How interesting for a 65kg rider.... and 1.63m.
15 Seconds after upload yay
Quick! 🔥
1:16 😂😂😂
As someone who lives in America I can absolutely agree cars suck!
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Thank you! I’m subscribed to citynerd as well!
подвеска у меня стучит а так колесо отличное
I go emediatly anger if i hear the name kingsong ‼️after my experience after riding 930 km...a kingsong S 22..👎👎👎never never again....i prefer to walk😁
bought it off someone who did a group buy , it has BMS malfunctioning and an issue with the motherboard . this product is still new I would wait a few months or a year if anyone is looking into buying it. it still has problems 👎
I had a BMS error but once I updated the firmware its been fine
This actually kills KS S18.
Head on!
I think the S18 could still be refreshed and be decent.
Step 1) 50S cells
Step 2) Same mobo as the S16 pro
Step 3) Remove the plastic casing as is and just make it flat.
The S18 is such a light wheel compared to all these, the main issue is the low current from the batteries. The molicell version somewhat fixed it, but the mobo didn't actually treat the cells different.
Thing is, they have abandoned the S18 platform and have gone with a single platform it seems (S22 one). That's fine, and makes sense. But the S18 could be good if they wanted to make it so. It would also be cheaper still due to less cells.
This direction of promoting large and fast wheels seems to me to be a bad idea. Used ones are getting cheaper. If I had to buy a wheel knowing that I would have to buy 6 protectors, a ski helmet and insurance, I wouldn't buy it. I bought it because I ride at 21 km/h and I don't dress like a skier, I don't lean out so much that I feel dangerous, and I get adrenaline from small pedals because they make me feel how difficult it is to keep my balance.
And large pedals make riding a unicycle look like riding a scooter and become boring, and the only entertainment is faster speed.
If you live in a big city and use the subway all the time, you need a lot of lightness and mobility. and there is no much alternative under 15kg euc.
у этого колеса только два минуса-вес и цена-все таки для моей страны-2000$-очень дорого
please review the most anticipated wheel of 2024 for normal people: The Inmotion V11Y !
I don’t have faith with the suspension on this wheel :/ for now it’s off the table for me
@@mr_wrongway sad to hear that. I believe the suspension works fine if you don't jump in skateparks and drive around in mud
S16 is a nicer wheel imo ...it has so much to offer for a small commuter wheel & a better suspension even if it is the slider wheels. Its my opinion but if you are aiming on getting this type of wheel what do u think is better on the inmotion? I have never liked their wheels except the v14 is the first since the performance is actually impressive (For Once... good on Inmotion)
P.S. As an older rider I am not into the rgb but I do like it with speakers on this wheel & the sound is actually good. I dont play music for others to hear like I did in my car in my 20's but I do think its a great way for people to know you are coming on an euc.
I still love my s22 even while owning a ex-30 & Vetern Lynx the weight of my s22 & the firmware is so good for light rideing & off-road... Oh and I havent had one problem (knock on wood) with my batch 1 s22 ..I am not a crazy off-road rider but I off road 80-20 when on my euc so it does get a work out at my size of 6'4" 270lb. I have to say I love all 3 of the wheels I own and I tried the s-16 and it was a fun wheel that I recommend to anyone that wants a chill cruiser or beginner friendly light wheel.
GOD BLESS