Bloody Roar Extreme (GameCube vs Xbox) Side by Side Comparison - Dual Longplay
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- A Dual longplay of the fourth game in the Bloody Roar series between the Bloody Roar: Primal Fury for Nintendo GameCube and Bloody Roar Extreme for Original Xbox Classic with the Shina character.
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- Technical data -
Full Game Name: Bloody Roar Extreme
Alternative Name: Bloody Roar: Primal Fury
Developer(s): Midway (N64) Midway (DC)
Publisher(s): Eurocom (N64) Eurocom (DC)
Release: 1998 (N64) 1999 (DC)
Comparative Region: 60 hz
Genre: Fighting Game
Mode: Single-player/ Multiplayer (vs)
Dual Longplay by VCDECIDE
![[2D vs 3D] Bloody Roar Primal Fury vs Bloody Roar Extreme (GameCube vs Xbox) All Endings Comparison](/img/n.gif)
I have both versions, but I prefer it on Gamecube. I like the traditional 2D animated cutscenes more. But I'll play any version.
same man, the 3d one feel so lifeless..
Indeed animation makes the GC version look as if it released yesterday...I have fond memories of this game one of the first titles to hit the system after its release!
Virgin.
@@RandalfElVikingo How's that going for ya chump?
even if the 2D cutscenes have aged better, the 3D ones gives some early 2000 nostalgic vibes
More like cringe honestly.
@@carlospandette8001 "More like cringe honestly." ... dweeb
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@@portraitsoftracy Yeah let's continue the cringey replies.
I like how the GameCube version had an anime adaption of the CGI animated intro. We got to appreciate the amount of effort the studios put into both projects for this game.
The GameCube version was made before the Xbox version.
It's actually the other way around.
Interesting, they both have their strengths and weaknesses. The image quality and loading is better on XB, but I’m noticing a bit of extra slowdown on it. The GC has the better intro, it’s aged way better than the CG intro.
GC > CG?
Microsoft was trying to be edgy with that junk..lol aged horrible
@@hjames78 it was cutting edge back then.
I'm a guy who prefers 2D animation but that animated intro ranges from mediocre to bad. It was made arround the 2000's, a period of change on the anime industry when they transitioned from cel animation to computer, the studios were late to adapt to that technology and animation from that period generally aged badly with worse trace, overly bright colors and bad compositions.
@@MrCashoos "transitioned from cel animation to computer" well funny thing about that is the fact that the transition was only for color since anime even till this day is drawn on paper and scanned in to be colored. heck one of the tools used by studio ghibli went Open source a few years back.
I remember spending hours in Primal Fury! I definitely enjoyed the animated cinematics over the 3d renders personally. Classic fighter!
I'd be awesome if this series had a revival. This was the first fighting game that I completed to the 100%. I love its gameplay, characters, art design and music. Honestly, I still jam to the OST.
It will never get a revival. Why? Because Konami owns the IP rights to it. As long as they have it, it will never see the light of day ever again.
@@Zylo82 😭
It's so cool to see the same exact scene in 3d and 2d. It really showcases the advantages and disadvantages of both mediums.
I miss this game so much, I wish they would enter a new title in the series.
Whoever thought doing a 3D version of this intro was smoking bud before the development meeting. In 2001 2D wins 7 days a week and twice on sunday.
You were doing well until you mentioned 2001. The early 00s was when pop-culture had a huge hard-on for 3D CGI and thought 2D animation was some kind of relic fit for retirement (at least in video games). Even more so by 2003 when the Xbox version released.
That isn’t the way I saw it personally, but it’s understandable why they did it. Don’t let hipsters and/or revisionists convince you otherwise.
@@strykah92 yeah man, each to Thier own, but I get crappy 2000s UK after school vibes from the 3D animation. It reminds me of a TV show that came on in the early 2000s on UK TV.
You prefer the anime style and that's ok (and i prefer it as well) but it's not fair to say that 3d cgi is bad for that time. It's alright when we compare to the other middle class of 3d games (that Bloody Roar belongs to) in the early 2000s. Dont compare it to the top class 3d cgi of that time like Final Fantasy because it's not fair.
@@carlosaugusto9821 unpopular opinion, I wasn't a fan of final fantasy CGI either, however the quality of the FF CGI was top class compared to this.
Never the less, I think Good CGI appeared more consistent near 2010
Replacing artwork with 3d CG nonsense was all the rage back then.
Cant even remember how many american game covers fell victim to that(Europe got off a bit lighter but not by much).
GameCube was very impressive back in the day the small disc did so much.
yeah but held it back too..
You mean the Nintendo gimmick...
You mean it held the GC back. Gamecube mini disc had a limit like the PSP UMD.
High quality FMVs and textures required compression or games would struggle to fit within a 1.5GB disc.
Xbox on the other had a dual layered DVDs that were 8GB which was a waste of money since no 6th generation game made use of it.
I think the PS2's 4.7GB was the sweet spot.
@@Manic_Panic this wasn't so much of an issue until 2004 as most games were still under 1 gigabyte. There was really only a couple of games that wouldnt have worked on thr gamecube. The Warriors for instance was something like 7 gigs. It wasnt quite like the prior gen where a n64 on average was like 4 to 8 mega verses 80 to 200 on other systems
Yeah but most of us back in the day (I was in like 6th grade) thought the size and handle made it worth it. I even knew a kid at church who had the portable screen setup and we'd geek out and play Melee on a bench
I prefer the GC anime style intro to the Xbox more dead or alive/FF looking style. Just my preference. Both look good in their own way though.
Nothing can beat good old 2D animation
I never understand what is so magical about 2D animation over 3D to you weens 🙄
@@skinnyweenie8679 2D Characters Has More Personally more more life more emotion
Also the fact that well 3d animation tend to age worse when technology advances
@@skinnyweenie8679 wtf
It's called personality kid
Xbox version has more vibrant colors. 👍🏼
The 2D would last a lot longer being timeless compared to the 3-D intro.
I grew up with the Primal Fury version so I'll always lean slightly towards that one. I was actually VERY surprised to learn that the Xbox's intro cinematic used full CGI for the intro and sure it has aged but it still looks quite nice for it's time. :)
High time we had another game in the series
time for us to sign i petition to get konami to either make another game or sell the rights to another developer who will make another game
Both intro are nice but for me the 2d intro wins if you look closely the both intro.
Agree
wow, actually both made an impresive job with the intros
i love that anime cutscene better than the 3D
There is still a competitive community for this game online using the JP GC version on Dolphin for obvious reasons. The most recent Combo Breaker had it in fact.
The CGI... does NOT suck?
Both are pretty great.
a perfect version of this game would be GC cutscenes in the Xbox version
Not really
There's very little difference between these two versions. What it comes down to is: Do you prefer the story font, CG cut/story scenes, controller, extra (clone) character, and 1/10th/second faster loading speed of the X-Box...or the animated cut/story scenes & controller of the GC version?
The Gamecube contains also the "extra (clone) character" in the Japanese Version (Instead of "Primal Fury" name, the Xbox and the JPN Ver. of Gamecube shares the "Extreme" name and the content).
Just the staff roll in the Extreme Gamecube version is different than the International ver.
Xbox verson removed the secret ending, no updates from Japanese version like bug fix, balanced, new moves.
Prefer in my ass
@@rawkklark7944 Hmmm🤔 Looks like i need to pick up the JP Gamecube version as well...
There's no difference between a crappy 3d CGI and handdrawn? Wow dude.
The Xbox version also stretches the UI textures to match the same screen ratios as Arcade and GC. Admittedly it's only obvious if you recognize the font from other games, but once you do it's hard to ignore.
I rented the hell out of BRPF back in the day. So cool to compare the cutscenes and see the difference in anime and 3D animation.
At least both are better than the PS2 version, which doesn't exist, lol. But then, PS2 exclusively got BR3 and BR4... :/
Both are BR3 ports, don't you know?
@@ZinhoMegaman Only in terms of gameplay... otherwise they're a side-story that takes place between 3 and 4. But actually, Primal Fury and BR1 and 2 were the ones I've played the most.
@@ZinhoMegaman they are not. Every 3D model are remake from scratch. Every moves had different hitstun and new air tech , almost 90% combo from BR3 doesn't work anymore
The PS2 version does exist
Damn wish I had this game back in the day didn’t know it was on both of these systems
Oh man that menu music at 1:52 sure takes me back, haven't played this in at least 15 years, now I kind of want the Xbox version
You should get it.
Awesome games awesome years 😎 I followed the series since PSX and was very excited to get this game early on my GC I think it was exclusively for GC when it came out then it released on other platforms as well I might be mistaken though...what an exciting era to be a gamer! Very sad that the series died out in the long run...
I miss this series so much
I had this game, damn this brings back memories
I love both versions but I prefer the anime intro of Bloody Roar Extreme more because it reminds me of the same animation that the Street Fighter Alpha movie had.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Probably same people.
The anime intro was on the primal fury one not the extreme one
That’s some pretty damn impressive cgi
I was looking at the anime intro's artsyle and something kept telling me I've seen something like that before, then it clicked, it has the same art style as the Street Fighter Alpha: The Animation.
This was such a good game. Love that anime intro, I would totally watch a Bloody Roar anime lol
I prefer the 2D intro all day
Never played these games, but that cg version is respect.
Yeah, they easily could've just slapped on the 2D intro with the Xbox (as it has higher storage space via DVD) ... but I genuinely like the choice they made in going with CG modeling. It matches better with this particular game, as the game isn't a 2D fighter. Plus, *the endings* in Xtreme even got the 3D modeling treatment... which is way better, in my opinion.
At any rate, the intro/CG differences don't factor in much at all with my overall personal assessment.
I'd really like to see a comparison between 2 versions of a game with the same controller inputs. For example with Sonic the Hedgehog, it would be way easier to tell the difference between the two games if Sonic does the exact same thing on both screens. You can record a "TAS" or "movie" consisting of what inputs you want and you can sync them while compensating for potential delays (e.g. Megaman 3 US has a longer intro than JP). Basically paste the controller inputs at the very start of a level in both versions and the character will do the same thing. I'll gladly help if needed.
they could fall out of sync for a number of reasons. In practice it doesn't really work with games like this that are not only different on the different platforms with different scrolling text, cutscene time, etc, but also have a lot of "random" elements that aren't going to be the same given how they generate those random numbers, so like the cpus aren't going to do the same moves while playing both games at the same time even if you do the same inputs
@@Heyim18bro Even in a world where latency doesn't cause the inputs to fall out of sync, the first inconsistency in loading or first gameplay difference will throw the entirety of one side of it out of sync for the remainder of the "run"
GeForce 3 TI500 mostrando a potência dos shaders.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Se eu não me engano a Geforce 3 do Xbox era uma Geforce 3 normal....kkkkkk Por falar em Geforce 3 , eu tive uma Geforce 3 TI200 ..kkkkk
@@_JoseHenrique_ plaquinha muito top
@@_JoseHenrique_ It was actually closer to a GeForce 4, Xbox GPU had two vertex shaders. Desktop GeForce 3 had one.
@@SpeedyGoneFroglegs interessante essa sua informação
1. I do dig the anime opening and ending cutscenes on the GameCube. However I find Nintendo's censorship quite funny. That bar in the ending cutscene must sell the finest grape juice in town.
2. I'm trying to figure out what makes the Xbox version so EXTREME. 2:38 Maybe it's the more EXTREME font size. EXTREMELY easier too read.
3. I guess Street Fighter II popularized the trend of fighting on active military posts in this case an aircraft carrier without being arrested.
Just cuz the liquid is purple? Lol, that doesn't mean it's supposed to be grape juice in the anime version...
@@zhizn_snake It could be just wine which is very celebrated In American Culture.. So I don't know why would anyone have a problem with it in a game??
El intro 3D pudo haber estado del asco pero se ve que le echaron ganas para pulirlo y no perder ante la animacion tradicional 2D es muy dificil decidir cada una se ve increible
no me convence tu comentario y de nuevo sabes que no me convence 🤣🤣🤣🙈
@@elchicosexi88 la de 2d gana por mucho
Si tus estandares son tan bajos, entonces si, la version 3d se ve "bien".
La versión 3D está muy buena aunque algunos les cueste aceptarlo y más para el año en el que fue echa.. me gusta más la versión de animación tradicional pero la que está echa en CGI está muy bien echa
@@bryanmarenco8615 opino lo mismo
Honestly, this makes sense. High-tech graphics resonate more with the western public TILL THIS DAY. Of course, today they look as good as other established media (But good in a different way tho), but that dosen't change the fact that people give a lot (sometimes too much) of value to graphics.
That's just sad.
When it leads to stuff like this, I totally agree. But when it leads to God Of War or Uncharted I don't mind it as much. As I said, it is now a fully fledged art direction, dude!
Bloody Roar needs to be loved more
Hand drawn looks much better for the intro
O começo do vídeo só nos mostra mais uma vez que animações em 2D são mais bonitas e fluidas que animações em 3D.
Pior que sim, mas nunca vejo um anime com 120fps e parece que só tem uns 30 ou 24
Verdade kkk
Mas igual animação 2D, 3D só fica bonito se bem feito de verdade. e tbm, era 2001.
@@Nexxuseditzz KHEEEE 😂😂😂 de dónde sacas que el anime se anima con una alta tasa de cuadros🤷
@@furbi963 ¿No es eso bueno para ti?
Please bring this game back I had so many childhood memories of this game 😢
Amazing game, to me the xbox version and the 3d intro is better, TO ME, gameplay is almost the same, the problem with the gamecube version in real hardware was the controllers and buttons schemes, was a pain in the a... the same happens with capcom vs snk 2, for me xbox version is better and the one to play, but the gamecube version is very, very good too, minor differences.
A fair assessment
I'm actually glad I bought the gamecube version. Take the anime intro over the cgi version. Decided to get the game a year ago since the franchise is well kind of done.
Never heard of this game before but I prefer the face structure of the characters in the 3D version but overall the 2D animation is waaay better
Um detalhe é que o único q recebeu o título Primal Fear foi a versão ocidental do game clube já que a original japonesa é chamada de Extreme assim com as versões de Xbox. Na minha opinião o maior erro da Hudson no Extreme foi retirar o sangue, pois isso acaba com uma cariterisca marcante da franquia.
Everyone kinda hates the CGI intro version but I enjoy old CGI aesthetics 😆. Don't get me wrong, anime version is much more appealing and better in almost anyway but I enjoy old CGI as a product of it's time. Maybe is the nostalgia 😆
The GameCube version definitely aged better for its intros. The Xbox version was using realistic stylized graphics just for the sake of being realistic.
Primal Fury (Anime)
Extreme (CGI)
Animation aged like fine wine. The CGI? Not so much.
intro 2D WINS
Nostalgia 😢
I played both version back in the days. The gamecube version ran better but definitely look better on the xbox with component cable. Still probably prefer the gamecube version. Save date on the memory card is transferable unlike xbox it is stuck on the harddrive.
xbox had memory units but it wasnt high demand do to the built in hard drive
Gamecube support 480p just like xbox
I never knew that I missed out on an incredible anime intro by only playing the XBOX version.
The reason why I bought a GameCube in the first place. When I heard that the new Bloody Roar was going to be on the GameCube, I actually waited for it. It was my first game for my system.
people seriously complaining which intro is better, maybe they should start to complaining why we dont get a new title of this series....
Mostly comparing, no one is complaining about the intros. The obvious reason why we don't have a new title is most likely due to the series' lack of popularity outside its fanbase and money issues.
It's just console bias. Don't take any of it seriously. 🙂
*NOTE*
The North American Gcube version (or "GCN" as some fanatics used to call it) does *not* support Progressive Scan video output. The only version of Gcube Primal Fury that has "progscan" capability is the NTSC-J version.
It would be interesting to see this comparison revisited with the Xbox version actually running in Progressive Scan video output mode... but it's all good. 😄
it is CRAZY how much expression is just completely lost. the 2D animation looks timeless. could have been animated 1995, could have been 2003, could have been 2015. the 3D is so dated by the technology.
Xbox wins here, more content, better controls, 2D scenes are great but they really don't matter and don't really have any effect on this game itself.
Unfortunately, my default Cube controllers still act as a hindrance with most fighting games... (well, the few that were available) on the system.
The Xbox controller (the S revision) is far more enjoyable for this game.
man this bring back the time when game industry always try to bring in different thing for different port
the really need to bring this back
ty for the work .
The Xbox seems to have better colors in my opinion during gameplay, not s huge deal and I'm sure the cube version could have been changed. The 2d intro I think is better. Other than that, impressively the same.
Yeah unfortunately the Xbox version doesn't support 720p so the video quality is mostly the same between the two. Soul calibur 2 has that advantage over the gamecube version.
Love the GC animated cut scenes, Xbox had an extra character. Awesome game still love it to this day.
Certeza que na época o de xbox era mais impactante, mas eu acho q os traços de que envelheceram melhor! 😊
man i miss bloody roar games
Regardless of the criticism was a very beautiful game on both consoles for its time.
Had the GameCube version,so it’s GameCube for me.
Need For Speed Underground on the thumbnail 🤔
I'm on a different account due to me having w step verification locking me out after my computer died but, nonetheless I'm here to enjoy these comparisons.
GameCube version I played a lot of since I was 20. And the Xbox version I never played since I never owned an Xbox. So far the only differences I can point out are that the GameCube version has anime cutscenes and less content than the Xbox version, while the Xbox version has slightly improved graphics, more content such as online and the Fang character swap for Yugo (I don't know what else it has GameCube doesn't), and CGI cutscenes that replace the anime cutscenes (I'm guessing many people back then liked that since anime wasn't socially accepted back then like it is now for the most part lol).
I would honestly say that despite Xbox's graphical improvements I would stick to the GameCube version. Mainly because in the Japanese version of this game on GameCube the title is, Bloody Road Extreme. Not only that you would get to keep the anime cutscenes most of the menus are still in English with only the story itself being in Japanese. You also get the Fang character swap as well, but of course no online for the PvP only boys.
FUN FACT: This game uses Bloody Roar 3 as a base and is considered an upgraded version of the game as Bloody Roar 3 does have GameCube and Xbox listed as available platforms. I can see why Bloody Roar extreme would be another Bloody Roar 3 because, both games do share some of the same stages (with different environments. Kind of like with Virtual Fighter 4, 4 Evolution, and 4 Final Tuned or Tekken 5 and 5 Dark Resurrection).
I wish I had a lot more to say honestly.
EDIT: I forgot to mention the loading... Xbox has better loading.
A gameplay no Xbox é ligeiramente mais bonita, mas coisa mínima. No conjunto da obra a versão do Game Cube é preferivelmente melhor por conta das animações. Mas ambas são extremamente bem feitas.
Read a lot of comments most of people prefer 2D because they like Japanese anime i respect that, but i prefer 3D CGi it's smoother fps it has non face changes every frame.
So bad ass how they did both hand drawn and cgi. Obviously have to go with the 2d animation tho. 👍
Gamecube easily win the match, better effect, lovely design, i love this version 😍
huh? they both look the same. besides the intro.
I want Shina to leave my hip bones a bloody mess if you catch my drift
Xbox: A Lot 3D!!!
Gamecube: Anime!!!
That Winner Is Gamecube Anime!!!
Intro for the Gamecube, Xbox tad better with the contrasts ingame.
Xbox Graphics are better but I do like the Anime cutscenes more.
this series needs to revive for the current gen and myght aswell trown in some guest characters like king and armour king and shit
The difference is really telling when both are shot for shot the same, but in two styles of animation. I would take the 2D opening over the 3D one any day.
Looks like it could be right up my alley. Too bad I've never cared about owning either of these consoles.
I'm guessing the Xbox version didn't get any anime sequences because of "American sensibilities"?
Wrong, anime was already very popular in America by this point, Toonami, remember?
en algunas cosas usan distintos colores, pero no veo una mejor que la otra a nivel técnico al menos lo que aprecio en el video, hasta el mismo anti alias y cantidad de polígonos parecen tener, probablemente gamecube tenga menos, pero trabaja de otra forma y con menos polígonos forma el mismo objeto. la intro de gamecube me parece mejor.
La única diferencia que encuentras siendo las versiones americanas del juego fuera del Nombre y las Intros. Es el personaje extra "Fang The Wolf", el cual solo se encuentra en Extreme (
@@rawkklark7944 fue una época que me perdí de los videos juegos, tenía consolas viejas, y cuando empecé a trabajar compré la Wii que use muy poco.
Does anyone else find it odd that the third title is the only one that went multi platform? I have all four titles on PlayStation and PlayStation 2 but, the third one is the only one that went to PS2, GCN and Xbox. Kind of odd it didn't make it to the Sega Dreamcast though... 🤔
I didn’t even know this game came out on Xbox lol this is the first I’ve seen of this CG it isn’t bad but it definitely isn’t better than the Game cube
Um segundo antes de dar merda.
Essa versão é a definitiva de Bloody Roar. O controle é o melhor da série, os combos são legais, e não tem nada muito quebrado.
Depois lançaram o 4... aquela atrocidade.
Dá nem vontade de falar sobre, eita jogo terrivelmente ruim.
2D animation > 3D
My childhood
Damn I'm aged huh
Love this game for my GameCube
let it be sold for $50, I'll buy that game newly made these days, I wish there could be anything be done to bring this series back to live
I like the anime opening
The intro on the gamecube was so much better.
great job
This was some great fan service.
Intro: Gamecube > Xbox
Gameplay: Gamecube < Xbox
A versão um pouco melhorzinha é a do XBOX, já a intro eu fico com a versão do Game Cube por ser em anime, então achei mais da hora essa intro dele
GameCube is a way better with natural color scheme and lighting. Anime keeps it fresh even today!!!
All versions of Beastoraizer is great👍