A lot depends on what you are shooting, of course. Like you were saying, you like working with a smaller camera and the C200 steps away from that but, Canon is still your comfort zone. I have used Canon for twenty years and am switching. I spent a lot of time analyzing, much like you are doing but you really get into splitting hairs so I stepped back from that, these are tools, just tools, what's the big picture, what's the companies' philosophy? Once I stepped back from hair splitting and looked at the companies, it was different story. Canon has been very frustrating over the years with how they swing that cripple hammer. I had a 70D that had dual pixel AF and touch screen...but I couldn't get that in my C100, then C300, not even the C300 MKII. My old XF105 had face tracking but not my early cinema cameras? To get a full frame sensor and avoid that 1.6 crop I have to go to an R5 oven? or the C500 MKII at 16 grand? I like Sony's philosophy, they are making their system easy to enter and easy to move around in. A full frame A7s III/ FX3 for under 4k....you can drop that to a B cam and add the FX6 for four grand less than a C300 MKIII, still ful frame. A 6K FX9 for less than a Super 35 C300 MKIII...you just have to stop and say "wait just a minute". FX3 through Venice have full frame, cinetone. I just had to stop with Canon's "next version will fix that" and look at what both companies approach to their customer base is, as that will tell you where they, and you, will be tomorrow. I'm just as comfortable as you with Canon (after more than twenty years, more) but geez, there's a whole string of full frame cinema cameras at every price point and a company that puts it all out there to get, and keep its base. I think Canon just grew a little fat and lazy. Case in point Canon R5. Overheat problem? No sweat, we have that fixed in the R5C...all you have to do is shelve the R5 you just bought (that you can't sell) and buy our "next great". How crippled do you think they'll make that to "protect" their other lines? Sony doesn't, they put it all out there, top to bottom.
The only thing that bums me out about Sony is the upgrade path/flexibility. Whatever you think about Canon, at least when you spend more up their line you get more. With the FX6 you get a7siii image quality with a slew of usability upgrades and tools. But your actual image quality isn’t much better. With the C70, not only are you getting all of the video tools the R5 didn’t give us, but you’re getting an arguably better image with that sensor as well. It’s kind of weird, by giving us amazing choices under $4k, Sony kinda made the over $4k segment less exciting.
I kind of started out sony crop camp, and I think I'll be happy sticking in that ecosystem, namely for size and lens prices. I think some big factors on your canon decision are lens investments and color matching to your existing cameras. Sony's apparently have a hard enough time matching to their own different camera lines, let alone other camera brands.
Makes sense! I still have my Sony lenses though!! haha (thats what I used for this test) For me its mostly the easy color grading, and I like the screens + handgrip better on canon. Not that important I know but it makes the experience a little better for me ha! FX3 is great though !!
Damnnn, that's crazy. I legitimately thought B was the Canon because it had such a pleasant, natural + organic cinematic look to it. Sony has really stepped up their game. Definitely my next camera purchase as I recently sold the BMPCC 4K. I was getting sick and tired of the terrible shape/size/rigging it up for everything.
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo I do. I have the Ronin RS2 but I'm waiting on the Nitze cage to come out. When I can remove the camera easily, I'll set it up to be used on the gimbal. I can get really steady shots on the C70 without the gimbal unless I'm walking.
i saw a friends in person and i couldnt even see the screen clearly...... it was so small and glossy that it became too reflective during the daytime outside, what has your experience been?
True! Not the worst thing to have to compromise on compared to all the perks of a smaller camera body with more creative shooting options and eye AF!!!
Honestly, I find it a little easier adjusting ND with a variable ND, especially while recording handheld. So on my C100, using a VND and shooting handheld is easier to me. Almost like adjusting focus.
Thanks for the video. As a Canon shooter, highly vested in Canon glass, I’m definitely thinking about making the switch to Sony or at least the FX3 only for my real estate needs. I still do a lot of portrait work, so making a full switch will be a pain.
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo I have. Preordered and canceled. Not a fan on no raw recording, and some of the focusing issues. Also, not a fan of the mini XLR.
It was really great!! All the lenses I used are linked in description if you want to check them out. Mostly G Master vs Canon L Lenses, though! Not sure how the tests would have come out if I had compared the fx3's external RAW vs C200 Internal RAW! (If that's something you're looking at using)
You have to compare CLOG2 & and SLOG3 because there are the 2 best log profiles that these to cameras have to offer. Also you are wrong about the canon not having simultaneous proxy recording because it does. Do your research!
Thanks for the feedback! That would have been a better comparison. I would love to know how to do proxies on normal recording modes on Canon, please share 😁
It's been a while I shot with either system and to be frank, I thought B cam was the Canon since it had the neutral feel to it, though color me surprised. Sony has come a long way from their original cameras which had weird color shifts.
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo Exactly. I saw many ppl shoot with those cameras and lauding them, I was like uhh...yea no. I'll stick with Canon. I say this as a person who shot on the F3, F5 and F55. Now, it seems they've sprinkled some of the color science from Venice down to their lower-trim Cinema line cameras. I'm glad they did.
Yep! I had both when I just did real estate photos but when I started doing more work with people (photos+videos) it was a good call to switch :) but it’s a personal preference for sure !! Not for everyone
Hey great video! I'm a C200 owner and considering FX3 as a B-cam and your video shows that they can be used together (color-wise)! By the way, I clicked the link to download footage but they are not there. Any way you can share them again? I'd really like to test them myself. Appreciate your help!
Hey! Thanks for letting me know. Someone must have downloaded them wrong and it got moved out of the folder lol. I'll look back through my hard drives and see if I can get them back! :)
The sony website says the fx3 overheats at 90 minutes at 4k60 8 bit and also at 13 hours and that is confusing. I want to know if I can record for very long times like 4-8 hours. Does the fx3 overheat while doing 4k60 4:2:2 in the hevc codec and also with external 4k60 to the atomos ninja v? What about prores raw?
I wonder if you can attach the fx3 from the top or side and use it that on gimbals, monopods and c stands. I am thinking it would make an awesome crane like setup also, I am correct?
@@nyambe If I'm reading your comment right, yes! It has mounts all over so its easy to mount sideways. Pretty cool to be able to do that with a cinema camera!
At this point I’d probably go with fx3. Both do better if you use a monitor w/luts and false color since the built in ones are not that great for reference for previews. I have a c70 now and love it though! But also like the fx3 a lot.
Same. I was DP on a shoot last week for an award show and we rented 3 C70s and they are da bomb.com Not bashing Sony. It works for some and they live it, fine but I just love the color science, workflow over Sony in every situation.
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A lot depends on what you are shooting, of course. Like you were saying, you like working with a smaller camera and the C200 steps away from that but, Canon is still your comfort zone. I have used Canon for twenty years and am switching. I spent a lot of time analyzing, much like you are doing but you really get into splitting hairs so I stepped back from that, these are tools, just tools, what's the big picture, what's the companies' philosophy? Once I stepped back from hair splitting and looked at the companies, it was different story. Canon has been very frustrating over the years with how they swing that cripple hammer. I had a 70D that had dual pixel AF and touch screen...but I couldn't get that in my C100, then C300, not even the C300 MKII. My old XF105 had face tracking but not my early cinema cameras? To get a full frame sensor and avoid that 1.6 crop I have to go to an R5 oven? or the C500 MKII at 16 grand? I like Sony's philosophy, they are making their system easy to enter and easy to move around in. A full frame A7s III/ FX3 for under 4k....you can drop that to a B cam and add the FX6 for four grand less than a C300 MKIII, still ful frame. A 6K FX9 for less than a Super 35 C300 MKIII...you just have to stop and say "wait just a minute". FX3 through Venice have full frame, cinetone. I just had to stop with Canon's "next version will fix that" and look at what both companies approach to their customer base is, as that will tell you where they, and you, will be tomorrow. I'm just as comfortable as you with Canon (after more than twenty years, more) but geez, there's a whole string of full frame cinema cameras at every price point and a company that puts it all out there to get, and keep its base. I think Canon just grew a little fat and lazy. Case in point Canon R5. Overheat problem? No sweat, we have that fixed in the R5C...all you have to do is shelve the R5 you just bought (that you can't sell) and buy our "next great". How crippled do you think they'll make that to "protect" their other lines? Sony doesn't, they put it all out there, top to bottom.
Soooo many great points!! Thanks for sharing your insight :) Anyone reading this, make sure to think about these things too for sure!
My thoughts exactly! Well said. Canon the Crippler has made my wanting to switch to Sony easy.
The only thing that bums me out about Sony is the upgrade path/flexibility. Whatever you think about Canon, at least when you spend more up their line you get more. With the FX6 you get a7siii image quality with a slew of usability upgrades and tools. But your actual image quality isn’t much better. With the C70, not only are you getting all of the video tools the R5 didn’t give us, but you’re getting an arguably better image with that sensor as well. It’s kind of weird, by giving us amazing choices under $4k, Sony kinda made the over $4k segment less exciting.
The psychology !!! Haha interesting point. What do you shoot with ?
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo currently in the market...just returned an FX3, rented a C70 and now doing research lol
I guessed right. Sony has come a long way, boy. With the FX3 you really have to talk yourself why NOT to get it . It’s hard to not to love the FX3
For sure !! Such a versatile little camera 🤯
I kind of started out sony crop camp, and I think I'll be happy sticking in that ecosystem, namely for size and lens prices. I think some big factors on your canon decision are lens investments and color matching to your existing cameras. Sony's apparently have a hard enough time matching to their own different camera lines, let alone other camera brands.
Makes sense! I still have my Sony lenses though!! haha (thats what I used for this test) For me its mostly the easy color grading, and I like the screens + handgrip better on canon. Not that important I know but it makes the experience a little better for me ha! FX3 is great though !!
Damnnn, that's crazy. I legitimately thought B was the Canon because it had such a pleasant, natural + organic cinematic look to it. Sony has really stepped up their game.
Definitely my next camera purchase as I recently sold the BMPCC 4K. I was getting sick and tired of the terrible shape/size/rigging it up for everything.
Totally different than 8bit a7sii days !
It’s been a while since I sold my C200 but I’m pretty sure you can shoot proxies on it. At least while shooting raw.
Great video!
Forgot about that !!!! Thanks :)
I’m happy to discover NeymarJr and I also share the same passion for filmmaking after football !
If your cpu can’t play back 4K mov or mp4 you should upgrade. C-200 has proxies for raw recording. The raw is buttery.
Facts!
Dope video! 🔥never knew about the internal proxies! That’s awesome!
Yep! Really awesome feature - it just puts them in a separate folder you can link in premiere - and they're 10-bit now so they still look great!
Still have the footage downloads? The link is only showing the LUT downloads without footage. Thanks!
Lately I’m super curious about the new c70 and the bmpcc6kpro. We are Really blessed to have so many options nowadays!!!
Great vid man!
Same!!! Seen a lot of great things from both.
Congrats on 3k+ subs🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks man!!!!! So cool 😁
I have a C70 and an EOSR for gimbal shots. They do look different but with some work they can go together just fine.
Nice !!! Don’t like c70 on a gimbal ?
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo I do. I have the Ronin RS2 but I'm waiting on the Nitze cage to come out. When I can remove the camera easily, I'll set it up to be used on the gimbal. I can get really steady shots on the C70 without the gimbal unless I'm walking.
@@scottievee7467 That will be awesome. I also like shooting handheld as much as I can!
The FX3 is a brilliant camera for professional video work.
Amazing image quality and reliability. Impressive package in such a compact form factor.
Wouldn't have believed it 5 yrs ago! So good and tiny!
i saw a friends in person and i couldnt even see the screen clearly...... it was so small and glossy that it became too reflective during the daytime outside, what has your experience been?
@@ryansulak I was able to work with it but definitely smaller / not as good as canon flip screens !
Mannnn I have the c200 and definitely thinking about switching over. I love my internal NDs but I could manage to get some nice variable NDs
True! Not the worst thing to have to compromise on compared to all the perks of a smaller camera body with more creative shooting options and eye AF!!!
Honestly, I find it a little easier adjusting ND with a variable ND, especially while recording handheld. So on my C100, using a VND and shooting handheld is easier to me. Almost like adjusting focus.
Thanks for the video. As a Canon shooter, highly vested in Canon glass, I’m definitely thinking about making the switch to Sony or at least the FX3 only for my real estate needs. I still do a lot of portrait work, so making a full switch will be a pain.
Have you thought about the C70 ??
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo I have. Preordered and canceled. Not a fan on no raw recording, and some of the focusing issues. Also, not a fan of the mini XLR.
You can shoot internal proxies on the SD card on the C200. You have to do it through secondary recording.
Yeah! Isn’t it just for RAW? Should have included raw on this comparison but didn’t have a cf card lol.
I went for the FX3 because of something very important: I already own high-quality GM lenses from Sony as I use Sony cameras.
G Master Lenses are SO GOOD! I have the 16-35 and love it. Pretty much the same as my Canon L Series :) Congrats!!
I prefer to B which is good because I am in the Sony ecosystem and thinking of picking up a Fx 3 to go as a Second camera with my a7Siii
Fun!
Wow the FX3 looked so much sharper I thought A was THE c200, which lens did you use on the Fx3?
It was really great!! All the lenses I used are linked in description if you want to check them out. Mostly G Master vs Canon L Lenses, though! Not sure how the tests would have come out if I had compared the fx3's external RAW vs C200 Internal RAW! (If that's something you're looking at using)
You have to compare CLOG2 & and SLOG3 because there are the 2 best log profiles that these to cameras have to offer. Also you are wrong about the canon not having simultaneous proxy recording because it does. Do your research!
Thanks for the feedback! That would have been a better comparison. I would love to know how to do proxies on normal recording modes on Canon, please share 😁
i don't see the download files ...There is nothing in the drive folder
When did the C200 come out and when did the FX3 come out?
It's been a while I shot with either system and to be frank, I thought B cam was the Canon since it had the neutral feel to it, though color me surprised. Sony has come a long way from their original cameras which had weird color shifts.
Yep!! For sure, felt the same way. Soo much better than the a7sii and a7iii !
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo Exactly. I saw many ppl shoot with those cameras and lauding them, I was like uhh...yea no. I'll stick with Canon. I say this as a person who shot on the F3, F5 and F55. Now, it seems they've sprinkled some of the color science from Venice down to their lower-trim Cinema line cameras. I'm glad they did.
Yep! I had both when I just did real estate photos but when I started doing more work with people (photos+videos) it was a good call to switch :) but it’s a personal preference for sure !! Not for everyone
Great video. I got ASMR as well from your voice!
Thanks! That’s a first
Both look beautiful, I’m not a fan of the highpass filter look on the sony, love the skin tho.
This is still such a good video.....Do you feel cinema cams are overkill for real estate videos?
Nope! Small cinema with great dynamic range would be awesome. (FX3, bmPCC, c70) Probably wouldn’t make sense for some budgets though.
Very nice video man!
Thanks for checking it out 😁
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Hey great video! I'm a C200 owner and considering FX3 as a B-cam and your video shows that they can be used together (color-wise)! By the way, I clicked the link to download footage but they are not there. Any way you can share them again? I'd really like to test them myself. Appreciate your help!
Hey! Thanks for letting me know. Someone must have downloaded them wrong and it got moved out of the folder lol. I'll look back through my hard drives and see if I can get them back! :)
Great comparison! Can you play sony proxy files straight of camera? No need for any encoding?
Yes! It makes a separate folder for them so you just link it in premiere and you’re ready to edit :)
Canon has allways nailed skintones like no other manufacture
Main reason I like it!
Also important image stabilization that fx-3 works gyro datas in video. UI is much better Canon.
Truth! IBIS on the FX3 is awesome. Didn't get a chance to work with Sony's stabilization program but it looks promising!
good!
Thanks!
Planning to get FX3. Watched this and I chose A, it is so filmic and soft. So i am confused 😂
They’re both great!! I have a c70 now. Love it for the more filmic look with the high dynamic range. But fx3 is great too and tiiinnny
Oooh would love a r5/r6 comparison or reviewwwww from you!
Might have to do that ! Trying to take my own advice and not just buy a new camera without testing first 😆😆
great video man, thanks!! i still cant decide tho RIP
Same!! Been trying out another camera this week lol. Thanks 🤙🏻
you're wrong on c200 not being able to record proxies.
Yup my bad! Thanks for the comment
Who has questions I didn't cover? :) I cut out a lot to keep it focused on the big things! haha
The sony website says the fx3 overheats at 90 minutes at 4k60 8 bit and also at 13 hours and that is confusing. I want to know if I can record for very long times like 4-8 hours. Does the fx3 overheat while doing 4k60 4:2:2 in the hevc codec and also with external 4k60 to the atomos ninja v? What about prores raw?
Hey!! I think you’d have to rent it to test out those specifics. I didn’t have any overheating issues but didn’t do any footage over 10 min.
I wonder if you can attach the fx3 from the top or side and use it that on gimbals, monopods and c stands. I am thinking it would make an awesome crane like setup also, I am correct?
@@nyambe If I'm reading your comment right, yes! It has mounts all over so its easy to mount sideways. Pretty cool to be able to do that with a cinema camera!
Are you single? Haha
Is it just me that B looked sharper? 😳
Should be !
I think i prefer B
Nice !! It is a great camera
the FX3 seems like a no brainer
It’s really good!
I wish I could make this decision, gotta be honest, exposing on the c200 seems a little confusing though.
At this point I’d probably go with fx3. Both do better if you use a monitor w/luts and false color since the built in ones are not that great for reference for previews. I have a c70 now and love it though! But also like the fx3 a lot.
Sony
the sony fx3 is much better where you look at it.
It’s really great!
Canon til I dieeeeee
Lol maybe same ??? We’ll see !
Same. I was DP on a shoot last week for an award show and we rented 3 C70s and they are da bomb.com Not bashing Sony. It works for some and they live it, fine but I just love the color science, workflow over Sony in every situation.
@@f0t0b0y Sounds like fun! Would love to see how it comes out if you can share.
@@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo Totally. It’s currently in editing.
NIKON Z6 IS BETTER :)
I’ve seen some great footage from
Those !!