Rare 428 4-speed '69 Grand Prix SJ!
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- @musclecarcampy9922 dives into an option-laden luxo-muscle car: 428 cubes and a stick!
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1 of the most beautiful cars EVER built ! 😮😮😮😮😮.
In 1970, I worked as a tech at Frizzell Pontiac in Houston TX. A 1969 GP Model S came in for service. It had the 428 with a 4 speed and MANUAL steering! It was a real beast to steer around town. All that weight on the long nose made for a hard day driving around town. Out on the interstate, it was a runner...
That’s a lot of car to not have power steering. Yikes.
One of the coolest GP’s made.
This car makes a Monte Carlo look like a pair of brown lofers
A lot of people like brown loafers. The grille is a make it or break it for many. Wheee the Gp shines is on the interior.
Brown loafers...f***in' hysterical brother. Both boats
This 4 speed 69 GP can sit alongside any SD455 Trans Am, Ram Air Judge as one of the most desirable Pontiacs ever. The 69 restyle helped ignite the personal luxury coupe craze that lasted nearly 2 decades. And it's fantastic look and styling is as relevant right now as it was when it was released in late 68. An all time great!
It was an incredibly influential car.
It's NO SD Trans Am......not even close!
@@Pantera-wu9ty It's no SD TA...but it's cooler!
Had one years ago, 428 automatic. Absolutely the most fun car I've ever had. Fast, great looking inside and out. 😎💯
Was 19 when I started at the local Pontiac dealership in the Service Department. Loved the sound of those 1960's muscle cars when they came in for service. Got to test drive a lot of them on a 6 block long loop on the out skirt of the downtown business area. We only had one 4 speed 1969 GP SJ that came in twice a year. What a thrill to sit in that cockpit, look out over that mile long hood, and chirp the tires when granny shifting.
Wow the memories...had the close-to-same exact car in red, an automatic, and was my first car bought used in '80 when I took a job in Dhahran Saudi Arabia when I was 22. Gas per liter in that oil producing country was $0.23. Drove it to Riyadh when I took another job but had to leave it behind in '83 to come back home. Still have a picture of it with me polishing it, on a pic frame on my desk and I'm now 66. My Dad had a '66 Lemans and when I took the job overseas, I mailed him a pic of my GP which said "Dad look at my car!"
Great memories.
I was 14 in the summer of 69. An older friend in the group of kids was a 17 year old, whose Dad owned a beautiful 69 GP SJ, with a 438/4brl TH400, with a posi rear. We grew up summering on Great Island in Narragansett, RI. Where the main rd in was a ten year old 4 lane straight called The Escape Road. Built after the hurricane of 58, that devastated the area. Where many drivers still to this day bring their cars out to see how fast they can get on the 2.3 mile downhill for a half mile west bound. We had that GP, with 4 kids in it up to 120! His sister had a 68 Firebird with a 3.8 OHC Straight Six, 4 brl dual exhaust headers and 4 speed called a Sprint, her Dad bought her for graduation. Occasionally she let her little brother use if we washed it for her. That would easily get up to 115 mph, but felt light. The fastest I rode on that road was in my older cousins 66 GTO 400/4 brl 4 speed with posi, that pulled 128 mph at 4,300 rpm’s!
Thank you for making this excellent video and for Steve to share his GP!! The correct numbers for the 428HO with stick shift = 94 cars with the wide ratio 4 speed and 22 cars with the close ratio 4 speed and 3 cars were built with a 3 speed manual transmission.
Ps** thanks.. interesting how some of the Manuel tr@nsmissions occurred in many years .. I picked up a 66 GALAXIE 500/XL/4 Sperd/352 in 1967;@ Our DODGE DEALER.. EASY to improve, fave Car many years.
MHO...............the 3 speeds were Ford toploaders
You forgot to tell us how many had six packs on them??? And there were a few that came with tri-power... I know my dad had one for 28 tri-power four-speed transmission!!! You could sail down the freeway at 150 miles an hour in it
@@bobbymeyerti9300 In 1969 there were no Grand Prix cars equipped from the factory with tripower ( three 2 bbl carbs). Given the interchangeable nature of the Pontiac engines, a tripower set up from an earlier GTO would certainly fit and work!
3 speed vs. 4 speed...dash ashtray is specific to 3 speed.
Love the door handles on this car, very advanced
Very interesting design.
I love these cars. I've owned 3 over the years. 2 Model J's and one SJ. All were pretty quick, but the SJ was a beast.
I'm a Ford guy, but desprately want't one while stationed on the West Coast attached to the Third Fleet.
They were going for $900 and up, and not rusted, and only about nine years old.
Never did buy my used, decent condition Gran Prix or Thunderbird.
I had to settle for a Honda CL450.
43 hp. so they claim, heavy, off road (not at all), lead sled.
I was pulled over for going 80 on I5 on my way from San Diego
to Long Beach, Calif.
I was really going 85 and leaking oil.
CHP gave me a ticket while simultaneously annoyyeed that the State Of Maine issued paper liseince's and no motorcycle liecence was required.
Maine State law was respected, I hope and pray this is still the case.
and they fell apart after 60K miles
03:03 Pontiac was already considering withdrawing the real GTOs from the market in 1969?
WOW !!!
By 1969, age 11 I was already paying attention to muscle cars.
This video with this prestigious machine is how I'm starting my day at age 65 1/2.
Thank you so much for bringing this to us. I'm ecstatic.
Glad you enjoyed it!
When I was in the 9th grade, a girl I went to school with brother had a 69 Grand Prix with the just like the one in your video. The only difference was his was maroon with a black vinyl top , it had three duces, and after market long tube headers. That was in 1969. I haven't seen another one of these really special cars since then, what a treat! Thanks for sharing. PEACE ✌️
I remember them . !
My mother owned a car like that one in the 70's ,it probably wasnt that specific one ,but it was a Pontiac Grand Prix.
Awesome cars ,back then ,it was the everything car not just muscle ,a family car ,highway car ,grocery car ,cruising
car an reliable an yea ,it had power when you needed it!😎
Great vid on these old classics!..💯👍
Loved my 69 Model J 400. Great lines and the interior was fantastic. 400 is just a fabulous engine.
It sure is.
Same here. What a great car. Bought it in 75 for $300. Wish I still had it.
These had gorgeous interiors.
Yes they did.
Beautiful 69! My favorite GP
Beautiful car! I love that year too! My first car was a 1972 Electra 225 with the same color combo. In 1974 I was 7 yrs old and was definitely paying attention to muscle cars also. My Dad had a 1969 SS Nova that was an L78 396 car. That car was bad to the bone! 4 speed is the only way to go back then. Like I say, paddles and switches are for boys, but peddles are for men!!! Guys, keep slam’n those gears!
Right on.
Sweet Ride !!! My first car was a 70 GP-400,paid $500 for it in 78 !!! Ran like a champ for couple years then blew it up racing a Chevelle 😢. Great memories though !!!
It happens!
Fantastic!
Many thanks!
I had several GP when I was younger and I have just got to find an SJ like this one. This car is in my blood.
Was talking to a fellow gearhead about Pontiacs. I was recalling a car from my mid 70s high school days. A triple black Grand Prix SJ 428 with a 4-speed. He called bs saying there's no such thing. Also there was a 65 or 66 Catalina 2+2 4-speed and l know for a fact that the early GPs could be had with a stick. I just sent him this video. Beautiful car you have there. I do collect car but my only Pontiac is a 73 455SD 4-speed Firebird Formula that l bought from its original owner in 1986. Garage kept its entire life with 64k miles it's untestored with most of the orignal paint some interior work. Like all my other cars l drive it. No garage queens for me.
Hey, if you are only going to have one Pontiac, a ‘73 SD Formula is a pretty good choice!
I have owned well over 100 cars and still have 7 that I can't part with. I have driven 100s of various makes and models from all over the world, I have been in the automotive business over 40 years now.
My brother in law had a 69 GP 428 automatic car. To this day, it is still one of my top 5 all-time favorites, I have so many great memories from that car,including borrowing it many times and doing an overall paint job on it,one of my first.
My Grandfather had a 69 SJ automatic with the 370 horse 428….when he had it dynoed it actually had close to 450 horse in stock form which explained why he beat most muscle cars in street races
Yep had one .
What a cool experience! Love this car and much respect to the owner.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great stuff. I honestly never cared for this model, but I enjoyed to watch and learn about it. Anything with a 421-455 gets my attention. Most 389s too.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video. Back when you could get a manual in almost any Pontiac. Thank John DeLorean for this and the GTO. My family owned seven Pontiacs over the years. The four I owned, including a '67 GTO, had a manual transmission. (My parents had three) I had a '69 Tempest 2-door in high school. I sometimes got seven or eight people in it.
This car is absolutely awesome.
Yes!
Wow Thank-you for sharing this car I worked on cars 25 years and never saw one of these.
That's one real nice Grand Prix....good job!
Thanks!
I went to school with a guy that had a Grand Prix, and a 440 six-barrel Cuda. He wouldn't bring out the Cuda to race, unless they could beat the Grand Prix.
Right they hauled ass big ti.
“Reverb radio” I love it! One of Pontiac’s best lookin cars. I always wanted one but back then I couldn’t afford it.
At over $6,000 with options, this one got pricey fast.
@@musclecarcampy9922 That was serious cash back then.
My father had a 1971 GP in triple black with the 455.
That is one sick GP.
There you are. Was wundering when your next Poncho video would bless the net. This one is another beauty you found. Such a cool car with the 428, and amazing stick shift. I saw a car like this a few times in the past, and the owner couldn't find an ash tray for the console, they made so few. The only thing he needed to complete the car. Thanx for this one Campster.
Glad you enjoyed it. Trying to do more. Lots of moving pieces.
Thanks for this video. Very rare car indeed. I ran into one of these at Fall Carlisle many many years ago. I thought I had seen a Unicorn. Now I know there are at least 2 unicorns.
Got some more surprises in store. Stay tuned.
A beautiful car, probably special ordered by a dad who still wanted to have muscle.
These were definately bad ass. I remember when these came out. Easy to get lost in the shuffle because back then there were so many bad ass cars to chose from. Someone on my street in the early 70s had one though not the SJ 4 speed. I remember hearing him fire it up every morning as I got ready for school. Sounded like a 32' cabin cruiser.
Weight was working against it, but it was very cool.
Looks like it would be enjoyable to drive but I gotta say, this blue example you're showcasing looks incredible, just awesome. Nice feature man.
Thanks a ton! I flipped when I saw it had a stick.
Gorgeous!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
One of the most beautiful cars to come out of Detroit. My '69 GP was the same color as this one, but I had a white landau top. I've missed that car forever.
Hard to get them back once they are gone.
I was 17 years old when my father bought a Royal Bobcat 428 SJ with a Turbo hydromatic. Maize yellow with a black leather interior. I had lots of fun racing that car, it was fast. Raced a GTO Judge, dead even race to 120 MPH.
Surprised a lot of hot rod drivers of just how quick that car was, great times
Must have been quite a beast.
Another outstanding review, well done Campy. Was not previously aware of the lack of Pontiac badging.
Only other GM car of that era I can think of without branding is the Corvette, which did not say Chevrolet anywhere except the center caps on the Rally wheels.
Glad you did this video, i had forgotten about the 428ci. 🤷♂️🙋♂️
Always happy to help!
SWEET ride!
I always thought (& still do) that those "GM" seat-belt buckles were Cool . . .
Devil was definitely in the details.
@@musclecarcampy9922 You get bonus points for wearing both the lap and shoulder belts. Looked like the driver only had the shoulder belt on- that's really dangerous.
@@bradparris99I thought he did have it on. Him adding the shoulder harness encouraged me to take that belt off the roof to use it. Maybe you just can’t see it in the video, but I do think he was wearing it. You are correct. Not wearing it is dangerous.
As a teenager I had a 1970 Buick Electra and was that rare kid that wore both the lap and separate shoulder belts when I drove. Aside from the obvious safety aspect, the car just drove and handled better with the belts buckled. And after being hit head on by a drunk driver, they are life savers, especially the shoulder belt. I walked away with only minor cuts, scratches and bruises from the belts. @@musclecarcampy9922
They were the deluxe chrome buckles, the standard buckles were black plastic. There was an upcharge for the deluxe belts. As a teenager in the mid 70s my hand me down 1970 Buick Electra had the deluxe belts and I was that rare kid that wore both the lap and separate shoulder belts when I drove. And after being in a head on collision with a drunk driver in a Chevrolet suburban while driving the 1970 Electra, I can tell you that those deluxe belts when properly buckled up were truly life savers.
I always loved these, particularly the '71 and '72, as I prefer the more serious look of the single headlights. I like the earlier less plastic-looking grill though. And I like both this clean straight rear bumper, and the later boat-tailed rendition.
Back in the late '80s or early '90s, 20/20, or one of those network primetime news shows, did a feature where they had an older couple drive an RV around the country, mainly out West IIRC, and stop in at some RV repair shops located near the highways, and see how bad they would get ripped off.
The network had their own mechanic who verified the roadworthy condition of the RV, and then whether or not any repairs billed were necessary, and whether or not they were even performed.
For the ending segment, the reporter went back and confronted the shops which had ripped them off. This one particular shop owner, who was maybe in his late thirties or early forties, actually fled from the reporter! But their cameras managed to catch the guy's '69 or '70 Grand Prix, and luckily their microphones picked up the sound as he drove off, and I was able to hear that it had a manual transmission! Even as a younger guy, I knew that had to be rare. I forget what color it was though...
I thought he was going to step into at least once.
I had a friend who's grandfather gave him& his brother a white with black vinyl top 428 gran prix. Car was big& fast. Look expensive and this was in 84.
What a great great car in excellent any large body car with standard trans is fantastic
Absolutely.
Outstanding!!! What a fantastic automobile and it still lives on!!! Lucky guy o own that and keep it so pristine!!!
Couldn't agree more!
I had a Burgundy Grand Prix with a black interior. 428 370HP, Turbo 400 auto. I loved that car.
What’s not to like?
370 horsepower gross is only 305 hp net
@@chadhaire1711Maybe less.
As a fellow Pontiac owner...a 1970 GTO Convertible, these old Ponchos definitely have a special place for me.
This GP is awesome-a 428 4 speed !
Talk about a true Gentlemen's Cruiser, that could still hold its own against Muscles Cars of the day.
Just....badass
My grandfather bought a 1967 Impala. It was a blue 4 door with a black vinyl top! It had climate control not just an AC and max controller! He ordered it with the 396/325 .And because he had a bad leg due to diabetes he ordered it with the 3 on the tree to exercise his leg! It was rear ended in 1973 before I got my license! Damn it!
Lovely car my uncle had one we drive down south I was kid that Pontiac will move up that highway thanks for posting 😊
I still have one of these engines in my basement sence 1983 always wanted to freshen her up with aluminum heads with a complete rebuild but everything i look at so far is a bucket of rust or a rust bucket 😂😂😂 everything so expensive now even a 70s ventura in good shape is 10k or more😊its that some day dream.i think it should pump out 500hp 500 ft pounds with no problem nice little street car.i just like it cause they dont make them anymore 😊😊
$6000 in 69 is Cadillac money.
Definitely. My Dad paid $6,800 in 71 for a Lincoln Town Sedan 😊
Fantastic car! My favorite Grand Prix. Love those 428's. Thank you for sharing.
That's my 70 Model J in my profile pic. Under the blue car cover, in the garage. Such a great car.
Very nice.
This car and the Monte Carlo SS454 were unsung heros of the personal luxury car era. My first nice car was a 73 GP, but I always wanted one of this body style. 👍
I’m a Ford Man true n true, but I have always had a thing for Pontiac, especially this model of the Grand Prix,, I have owned 2 Pontiacs a 69 Bonneville,, with that same 428, and a 1983 Grand Prix, with a 305,, it was a Dog, but I loved it!! Thanks for this video!! I still want 1 of these!! Even the door handles were sexy 💜💜💜💥💥💥
It was a very influential car. And you are right about the door handles!
I always did like the '69-'72 Grand Prix's, preferably the '69 and '70, hopefully I could ever find one with a 4spd!!! These cars was just downright sharp, gotta have one!!! I may be a Mopar Guy, but I do like GM's and Fords also!!! I always wanted a '67 GTO Ragtop and '69 The Judge!!! Mopar Nate Philadelphia,Pennsylvania
Man, what a car the best PGP SJ I've seen I wish that I was the owner!
I always liked the GP better than the GTO, I have never owned one, but have owned many of the GTO’s, a close friend had one just like this, but his was a dark green with green interior and black vinyl top. It rode like a dream, shifted like butter, and moved very well for a heavy car. I had a 69 GTO Judge about 45 years ago, to this day I would prefer the GP to that car. I still have the last muscle car I bought brand new, a 1972 W-30 Olds 442, damn, I’m old! LOL
'72 my best friend in high school showed up with a '69 Grand Prix SJ 428 4-speed in brown, at our usual Saturday evening meeting spot before the night out. His 1st words were that he'd finally found a car that I'd allow him to swap me for the night so he could drive my '63 1/2 Galaxie. He'd been trying for months to talk me into swapping with him for a few hours, he lusted after that low 10 second Ford. I'm not a gm fan but it was a sharp car, girlfriend suggested she'd like to have an evening in it.
Nice car, had a lot of torque for a stock factory car.
I was with my father in 72 when we picked up my Mother’s new 72 Grand Prix SJ,Yellow/Tan,SupervFast!!🇺🇸🥃TX. Bill Mac David Pontiac
In 1983 my friend bought a mint 69 gp 428/390 th400. Same int/ext colors as your featured beauty. This thing was Fast bone stock would whip the same owner's 69 gtx 440 auto it was one of the most impressive cars i ever got in and i owned many incl 72 t/a, 440+6 70 charger and 70 454 chevelle 4spd. One more to add the 69 428ho also walks a 70 gp 455.
I bought a ‘69 GP 400 great car, traded in for a new 73 GP 400! (Wish I kept the ‘69)
Not as fast as the 69 but the 73 was an awesome car. And fast enough it didn’t have catalytic converter yet used premium gas. 230hp 335(?) torque not too bad. I made 2 tire tracks until I let up it was more than a city block
Beautiful!
I love the sound of that engine while they are driving.
Youre definitely connected to some cool guys that own great cars man, awesome
I had a Gym teacher in High School who had one of these. I’m not sure about what engine it had but it definitely had a four speed.
Three speed was standard. Like to see one of those.
You've got to love the front chrome bumper ! I learnt how to drive on a '70 Bonneville Wagon - as I recall, 455ci/390hp, but by then the lap & shoulder belt had become one
Was up for bid at Mecum Chattanooga 2022 I think. Unsold. Awesome car!!
For the second time this week, ive seen classic car videos that refered to magazines that i (well, my dad really) have!
Interestingly, the videos were from both sides of the pond, as were the magazines.
What a gorgeous car. My father had one of those.
This is the one vehicle that I ALWAYS wanted. When my modest income rose to the point where I could buy one, they were getting old and tired. Unfortunately I never owned one.
Beautiful car 😍👍
My friend owned SJ 50 years ago when I was in high school. The owners manual have a picture of a four speed stick shift.
Unusual, but crazier that the 3-speed manual was still standard.
I had one SJ two Js. With the PMD center caps all had the turbo 400 trans.
My green 428 SJ was a running machine, living in the west , in the day. That car would run 80-90 mph all day and just float over the old 2 line roads. I was so happy to drive it all day long, all power, from engine to windows, seats, AC was a great car
That's a badass car my friend had one
Very nice ride !
I had a 72 SJ 400 auto. Same color. Found the build sheet. Was originally red with black strips,rally package. Motor and trans where dated 1971. Car was fast and had a factory what was called a His and Her shifter. My girlfriend at that time liked it so I got her a set of keys to it. She went for a drive with her girlfriend with it. Next day she gave me the keys back, said it scared me. Great memories. Console was same height as the seats. Sure made dates fun!
What a sweet car ,Very Rare with 4sp I have owned a lot Pontiac's and only 1 Bonneville 69 with a 428 witch i removed and put in a 79 T/A what a great engine i think they where better then the 455's
hood tach!!!
Don’t be fooled, those Coker radial redline tires handle like crap too. I had to take them off my GTO as soon as I bought it because it was too scare to drive. However, I put a set of their wide oval radials on and those handles every bit as good as the master craft avengers I had on before I made that switch. This is an absolutely crazy cool Grand Prix!!
I owned the same Car back in 1980, Best car I ever own, mine was also 428 4 speed, 150 mph speedo
So odd to see a stick in such a luxurious car.
These are gross horsepower numbers. Subtract about 25% and you get modern horsepower ratings.
Great video!
Yes, provided the gross number was legit. Some of those numbers came from the marketing department, not engineering.
@@musclecarcampy9922 Good point. I think Ford was sued back around 2000 because people discovered that their 320 hp Mustang Cobra wasn't making that much power.
@@Flies2FLL It was 1999. The production intake manifolds on the Cobra were not smooth inside and Ford sent them to Extrude Hone to ensure they flowed properly and cars made 320 hp.
@@musclecarcampy9922 Interesting. People were using Extrude Hone on early Porsche 928's. Combined with a good exhaust and a pair of S2 cams, this added nearly 100 hp!
That's my dream car.... love it
Drove one like that in 1980 and it could go 140 + all day 😊
I've heard these had the longest single piece hood ever installed on an American car.
Supposedly this was the longest nose in the industry in 1969. That is quite an accomplishment in a world that had the ‘68 Eldorado.
The '67 and '68 were the best looking of the FWD machines.
@@valengreymoon5623Oh, easily. Instant classics.
428 is an awesome motor rpms of a chevy and the torque of a Pontiac. Very durable and strong assembly.
When i was a kid (im 61 now ) these along with the GTO 67,Trans Ams super cool.
Cool then, cool now.
Bought a new SJ in 1976.light brown with vinyl top. Had a 400,ran pretty good beaing such a heavy car.Gave it to my son to drive as his first car. Used and abused was the word! Tough car.
i saw a SSJ 10/15 years ago and have not seen another one since . the guy had two of them .
I owned a 69 428 Bonneville. What a car.
wonderful car, thanks for sharing. I love Pontiac muscle car videos. Personally I own a 1971 455Ho Trans am. Cheers from France
Thanks for watching!
Fe dog the goat 67 gto
I miss Pontiac was a inovative co
Once upon a time.