How to Remove and Install Grandfather Clock Drive Chains
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He said he was going to tell weight placement??
Thought I did, maybe it was in another video I did. On mine and most of the same they hang heaviest from right to left.
@@ToddFun thanks so much. Oh and ya you did. But thanks for the info....again
@@ToddFun looking form the front of the clock or looking from the back of the clock? Right or left?
@@sharonmanprin9768 Looking from the front of the clock
He did say the beginning.. heavy one on R. Lighter one on L.
My grandfather clock chain came off and I thought I would have to find a clock repair person to drive to our small remote community. Then I found your video and at least understood what I was looking at when I held a mirror to see the inner workings. I was able to rethread the chain and get the clock going again. I am a 69 year old grandma. I smile when I see the clock ticking away and know I fixed it. Thank you!!!!!!
Just happened to me 😂.
Wow! After moving to Washington State in 2014, my clock had the center chain come off. I checked and it was over $200.00 to get repaired in home. Today, I thought "what the heck!" and searched TH-cam. I found this video, watched it about 4 times to make sure I got it, and after about 5 minutes, I GOT THE CHAIN BACK ON!! My wife was amazed! I forgot just how beautiful this sound was! We have a Grandfather clock upstairs, but this one is down stairs and once I dust it off, I plan to put it in our living room and enjoy it once again! Thank you Todd for this very useful video! You are great!
Glad to have helped. Glad you're enjoying your clock again!
We are so grateful for this video. We bought our clock and didn't prepare it well for transport. After we removed the weights, the chains quickly slipped off one by one. Your video saved the day!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much! You saved me $200 bucks! I inherited my Grandfather's clock and wasn't sure how to put it back together. It's now working and everytime it chimes it reminds me of him!
Found this video because we inherited a Howard Miller 610-202 clock and it was transported to our house with the chains off. Was worried we'd have to call a repairman because I could not figure out how we'd get to the middle sprocket, but this has given me hope.
Thank you for putting this video online for us know-nothings! :)
Great. hope you for it figured out.
Thank you so much for this detailed video. My wife inherited a Howard Miller with the Westminster Chime mechanism from her grandparents that hadn’t worked in over 20 years because the center chain had been pulled to far and while attempting to fix it, her grandfather got it wedged in the sprocket. I was able to get it free, but didn’t know how to get it back on correctly. After watching this video and the explanation of using some stranded wire as a feeder for the chain and also the explanation of which side the weight should hang on according to the ratchet direction gave me the confidence to get it going again. Thankfully it doesn’t appear that any harm was done to the mechanism as it has been running on time for about 30 minutes. Thanks again! I’ll have to watch your other videos to see how to keep it clean and working for years to come.
Glad to be of help.
After having my grandfather clock disassembled due to countless military moves, it’s finally fixed. Thanks Todd!!
Glad to have helped.
I just found a grandfather clock someone was throwing away, and decided to dumpster save it, this video just earned you a subscriber
My father assembled a clock kit in the '70s. When he passed in 2009 I moved the clock to my home and the chains had fallen off during the move. Reattaching them was a mystery to me. So for 13 years the clock has sat silently. Thank you so very much for helping me to once again bring life and a voice to this beautiful heirloom.
wonderful !
A few years back I was blessed to receive my grandma’s grandfather clock when we moved last year I accidentally pulled the center chain off. Everyone said I couldn’t fix it on my own but I found your video and all afternoon I have been listening to the beautiful chimes as it is completely fixed! I can’t wait to watch to see how to care for it. Thanks!
Glad to have helped. Nice DIY feeling right.
Thank you very much for the video.. we fiddled with the middle chain for over an hour and then I checked TH-cam. Found you video and got that middle chain on the gear in less than 30 minutes. You're a life saver and back saver.
Because of your video, you saved us several hundred dollars to get someone to come out and put the center chain back on! We were able to do it ourselves!!!
Thank you! Right weight chain was completely off my 1972 Ridgeway grandfather clock; followed your video and fixed it perfectly. Hardest part was opening the chain link to remove the end tags!
Hi. Thank you so much for this super simple ""how-to" video. My mother was going to pay someone $250 to do this and get the clock working. I am a 50(ish) yr old woman, and had to wait til she went to church, to sneak and surprise her. My point with my age and gender, is that first try, the weight is back in place, and I have never touched a clock before!!! Thank you again!. On to the next video to get her started again.
Good to hear you're trying. Let me know how it works out.
My grandmother clock pendulum come loose how do yo put together don't know if something broken most of the parts are loose the movers I think miss handle it.
Roger Gatdula really? Just the pendulum being unattached . .. is that correct? The stick with the circular pendant on the bottom , that swings back and forth in the clock? You’re inquiring how to reattach it , TH-cam’d it infact .
Did you get it reattached ? How did you find the info or did you have a friend help or just messed with it until you got it back on? Sorry , for the many questions, just am genuinely curious ab your jostled moved clock.
Cora from Alaska
Thank you! This video was perfect! We moved over a year ago, it was a self-move and I made the mistake of removing the chains and the weights. I should have just removed the weights only and secured the chains instead, but hindsight is 20/20. For a year my clock has been non-operating and everyone I called wanted to charge me $350-$450 to come out and re-assemble. With the help of this video you shared, I did it myself and I am thrilled - It is working again and it is music to my ears. Thank you! Thank you! for sharing you expertise. Excellent instructions!!
Sure, glad to have been of help. Great to hear you are enjoying your clock again and were able to successfully do the work at a good savings.
Hi Todd I have the exact same mechanism you are working on in this video.while winding the clock weight came loose from The Hook and the chain came out I replaced the chain but the clock will only run about 30 seconds with the pendulum ontake the pendulum off and it will continue to run faster of course is this hurting .when I replace the weight I moved it to the top have I now over wound the clock and that's why it won't continue to run with a pendulum on. Thanks for your help Todd
That is very strange. You really can't "over wind" a weight driven clock to my knowledge. Maybe something got damaged with the chain broke. Is the pendulum spring broke or bent? Is the pendulum hook up correctly to the spring and leader hanger extension? Did the crutck get bent or turned out of place?
@@ToddFun thank you for the quick response Todd. I did have the mechanism out and oiled it while I was reinstalling the chain the crutch harm does have a bow in it should it be straight I may have been careless with it. The next day or so I'll get back to you and let you know if I had any success. My father built the clock from scratch in the 80s thanks again. cleoyoder@gmail.com
I got a grandsfather clock from an estate sale and it had no chains attached. Watched this video about 3 times and got them all on in the right place. Todd, you're the greatest. I subscribed and will watch more videos as I try to put everything back together. Thanks again!!!!!
Thanks Janee! Glad you sub'ed and glad to have helped.
This is so wonderful! The weights on my grandfather clock were pulled too high and got stuck so I had removed them and they have been just sitting there for a year. After I found your video I followed your instructions, actually was able to do it without using a wire. Also mine didn't have side panel access but it had a rear one so that was how I got to it. It worked perfectly! So happy!
I had ABSOLUTELY no idea how a grandfather clock worked when I volunteered to set a friends up with just the chains and weights randomly in a box. Excellent instructional and the finished clock keeps perfect time. Thanks Todd.
I bought a 2nd-hand Colonial gf (1970’s). Chime and strike work well but the time stops at :59 every hour. If I pull on the weight chain it will tick again. If I move the hand past the hour point it will chime and strike. I put the pendulum back in motion and it keeps good time until the :59 mark. Is there some servicing of the time chain and weight that will help this situation?
Thank you for the video, confused about what is right..is it from the back of clock or front ? My grandfather clock is mounted on the wall so I'm going by feel.. facing the clock the left side chain needs to be put back in. Thank you in advance
From the front looking at the clock face the left of the clock is your left and the right is your right.
Is the chain direction the same on all grandfather clocks? While trying to repair the (Diplomat) grandfather clock I have, I noticed that the right-side chain is in the opposite direction of what you're saying the chain should be going. The hook is on the outside, but you're saying the hook should be toward the center (If I'm understanding you). So, in this case, the weight is dropping downward (with the chain movement going clockwise).
They can be different.
@@ToddFun Ok, thanks.
Hi Todd, How do you get the right replacement weights for a grandmother clock? I have a tempus fugit and we have lost the weights.
You might get some help by calling timesavers.com in Scottsdale AZ. Ask from help looking up possible replacement parts and have your make and model number from the back brass plate of your clock works mechanism.
This was a huge help. Complete beginner, managed to rechain my new Westminster Chime in an hour after watching this. Had a bit of an issue with the centre gear ( the clock) but solved that by hooking a length of wire on the sprockets and pulling the chain through by finger turning the sprocket with the chain tagging along behind. Thanks
Recently got a granddaughter clock from a charity shop. Interclock brand. I seem to have extra weights than I need. I asume I only need 3 as I have only 3 chains. I've also noticed the chains are different lengths and one has tags at bottom ends not a hook. If anyone can advise on which chain should go where that would be a great help for me to get started 😊
im wondering about the position of the chime shut off lever. Is the chime shut off lever the long lever on the right of the mechanism, that is in "up" position? Is the lever in the up position the "chime off" mode? My franz hermle 451-053 does not chime, but clock works. The right and left weights dont go down, but center does, and clock itself works fine. Just the chime does not work. My lever is in "down" position. thanks.
Well just move it to the other position and see if it start working. If not then for sure something is wrong and it'll have to be looked at by a horologist.
Good video.👍🏼✌🏼
I have a Moathe Grandfather clock. My issue is the centre sprocket for the pendulum (I believe) keeps turning. It doesn't click or have any tension. What's the issue?? 🤔😁
How does the pendulum connect?
Hi Todd I watched your video on changing the chains a grandfather clock. My grandmother's clock that she left me, has 1 outside chain gear
That spins freely and I can't put the weight on or it will pull through. Can you advise me please
Sounds like the "click" spring on the drum is damaged or out of place. It's job is to engage a ratcheting pawl so the gear can only turn one way to wind. It would need to be repaired by a Horologist.
The clock you are working on is it the back or front? (it matters to me about the middle chain placement). I am working from the BACK of my clock so when replacing the middle chain should I be threading left to right or right to left. I know you covered this but you did not say if you are working from the front or back. I am having trouble finding the middle sprocket. My clock does not have a moving side panel that I can see.. In winding my clock I did this to high. I am so bummed ..also scared to take the front off there is a slit in the bottom like the one you are working on. I tried to take a picture of it but no success yet Thank you in advance.. Oh I have never done this before.
Looking from the front of the clock
Good morning. Could you tell me if for a grandfather clock with a chime the weight that weighs more has to go to the center ??? thanks
They should be marked on the bottom or someplace. If not I have always seen the heaviest on the right because that runs the 1/4 hour chimes and therefore has the most movement in a week so the gearing gets more torque to compensate for the need for move movement in the same drop as the other two that don't need to produce so much movement in the same drop.
Thank you so much for this! My wife surprised me with one this weekend and the center chain came off while moving it. This video saved the day!
Hi there I just bought a Erhard jauch uhrenfabrik emperor grandfather clock made in Germany made in 1977..I am trying to put the chain on the right side gear but it won't turn..yours from this video is made different can you help me?
THANK YOU SO MUCH! while moving from MD to NC the packers pulled all the chains tightly and then it was over tight, I got the chains off and finally got the right and left chair on but had no idea how to do the middle chain. you video has told me how now...thanks so very much. It's so hard to get a grandfather clock man to come out so I have resorted to use TH-cam...lol...thanks so very much...lovely easy video.
Oh my Goodness, THANK YOU SO MUCH. We are doing a remodeling job and someone took the weights, chains and pendulum off. Now it's time for me to put it back together. I didn't take it a part so I had no idea on putting it back together. Thank you, Thank you for sharing and teaching.
Wonderful!
hi my name is todd also i have a howard miller clock chain driven clock that does not chime. my question is how do i set the time ? do you move the big arm clock wise or counter clock wise? when i got the clock the right (looking at the clock) chain was off and i set the time by turning the big arn clock wise. please help if u can
Center chain has been impossible for me to get. I can't remove side panels or any of the housing so I have no side view. I can get wire up in there, but can't bring it around and down the other side. I'm working blind. Any advice?
Great video, it really helped me getting the chain back in, but how do I know how high to set the weights?
Oscar Montalvo just stop about 2 inches from the top. You can get closer but really no point in getting them so high.
Thanks a lot. I moved with my mother’s grandfather clock 9 months ago and the weights were removed. I thought that I’d have to find someone to fix it. I was missing the chiming and wanted to get it working again. So glad I found your video.
Thank you for the video. It helped a lot!
i do have a question and i hope you will see it to answer it i took off the weights when moving the clock from house to house but i have weighed all 3 weights and the right one like you said is heavier..the center and left are equal weights..does it matter which weight i put on first .. just curious thank you ..i suppose i will start with the heavier one or does it matter?
Order of hanging the weights does not matter.
Your videos have been helpful in the past, but I have a problem that I haven't been able to locate it's solution. My left chain, I believe that it's the one that makes all of the movements move and drives the pendulum, no longer stops/ratchets. When I pull it up it just goes right down again. Is there something that needs adjusting or something needs to be replaced? Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated.
You might have a broken "click spring" on your main sprocket. Sometimes they can get worn out too and jam and/or get dirty and jam. If any of these happen the sprocket will free wheel in both directions.
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@@ToddFun Thank-you very much. I will watch the video and hopefully fix the problem.
Hi. I picked up a Seth Thomas 80K 116cm 26, 9-8 Grandfather Clock which appears to be early 80's. Clock shows a full service tag from a well known clock shop dated 2008. Clock shows no damage other than the left and right side weight cables being pulled / wound up too high. How would I release the cables back to their nominal position so I can reset the weight pulleys and weights? Do you have a video on this procedure? Many thanks.
Sorry, I don't have a video on do such. It could be very difficult and I hear this problem all the time. Can you unscrew the bottom of the weight to get the weights out of the brass tubes? I know some do unscrew like that. Then you might be able to take the top of the weight off and pull the chain gently round like in this video and then re-thread it watching this video. There is a click spring on the back of each main sprocket, if you could hold the weight up and carefully push as stiff wire like a bike spoke bent just right you might be able to hook and pull or push the click spring to release the ratchet. Push or pull depends of the orientation of the click spring.
Lots of photos in these posts, click on them to see extra large photo:
www.toddfun.com/2016/05/30/how-to-disassemble-a-grandfather-clock-part-2a-of-4/
www.toddfun.com/2016/06/01/how-to-clean-a-grandfather-clock-part-2b-of-4/
www.toddfun.com/2016/08/07/how-to-assemble-oil-and-grease-a-grandfather-clock-part-3-of-4/
In these below photos I'm putting a drop of oil on the click spring in the main sprocket. This is spring loaded pawl that makes the clicking sound when you wind the clock and prevents the weights and main sprocket from rolling backwards. If you can get this click spring pawl to release from the teeth of the main sprocket body the chain and weight can drop backwards. Not sure you will be able to see or access this click spring pawl while the lock is assembled, not likely I would say.
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Thanks Tod. Actually the answer I was looking for may be in the 3rd line of your answer above: 'There is a click spring.......". I should clarify that I have no problem with the weights as all 3 are removed and waiting to be reinstalled. My problem is getting the weight cables to release (note that my clock is cables and not chains) as they appear to have been wound to the top. I do believe that there is a click spring or something to that effect that I need to release on each cable spool so I can draw the cable back out. I'll try a piece of stiff wire with a 90 bend at one end. With some luck...it just might work. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again.
Hi Todd, I'm a new subscriber. My clock is a German make that came with the Emperor Kit. It has been very dependable but occasionally one of the weights just drops off. I have no idea why but the end result is having to reinstall the chain and put the weight back into it's casing. Your video was very helpful in helping to get things back together. It's working well. Thanks. Incidentally, I'm an 82 year old widow.
So, I got my grandfather clock 'cleaned/tuned up' and now it will not continue working. Even when I start the pendulum swinging, it goes for maybe four to five minutes and gradually slows to a stop. I have leveled the clock side-to-side and front-to-back, and the pendulum is not hitting any of the chimes, but it doesn't continue swinging for more than five minutes.
Any ideas of what I could look for to get this clock going for more than 5 minutes? Thanks.
I just assembled an emperor model 571 or 575. Brand new - lain in box for 20 + years. Assembly went well except the chimes do not chime. I went thru the troubleshooting section of manual - all appear fine (from troubleshooting suggestions). I do hear the clicks. The heavy weight is in correct position, nothing appears tangled. The chime selector will not slip into bottom selection. As a know nothing clock person it seems that the chime selector may not be moving out of silent position even tho selector indicates it has moved. I would greatly appreciate your help.
Not much I can help with from here. Wish I could help remotely. See if you can find some clock forums to post the question or lookup a local horologist. Good luck.
Thank you for this video. My clock hasn’t worked in about 8 years and low priority for clock repair in a shop. I was able to fix it myself in a matter of under 20 minutes using the wire trick. My center chain had come off years ago and now my clock is keeping time once again on my30 year oldHoward Miller grandfather clock. It was a breeze thanks 5o you showing this simple trick that works. Thanks again!
Nice! glad to hear you have your clock back. Glad to help
Todd I know you said the heaviest weight on right and lightest on the left, my clock is strange they are almost the same weight 4 LB, 4.6 LB and 4.7 LB. so is that the order from left to right?
yes, I would try that first. If one of them stops dropping then switch with a heavier weight. I would also look at the weights every carefully to see if there are any markings that would let you know which order they on (L,C,R) or (1,2,3) as examples.
This shows the amazing power of the internet. Thank you so much for this video! I am not a clock mechanic but I am the stupid fool who took the weights and chains off when moving houses so the clock wouldn’t get damaged. But then, I had no idea how to put it all back together. That was until I watched your video and BAM! All fixed! Thank you so much!
Your welcome. Glad to be helpful.
YOU ARE SO PATIENT WHEN MECHANICAL REPAIRS. EXCELLENT TEACHING METHODS
Thanks Margaret! I have one more video on this clock. I have to do that final bushing replacement video.
I wish u lived in Gainesville, FL, so you can fix my Aaron Willard grandfathers clock. It's 37 years old and has been cleaned 5 years ago.
We moved it to
FL and the pendulum is hooked up, but it doesn't continue swinging on it's own. I push it, it swings, then pendulum stops after 3 min. thanks again M. Selli
If you can't get it going just google for a local horologist. I'm sure there would be one you could take it to and some even do house calls.
A old lady my neighbor has a tempus fugit and kids pulled the chains too far is there a release in the back of the mechanism? Thanks
Yes but to get to the "click" springs you have to take out the mechanism anyway. I have never had any luck getting to the click springs to let down the weights while the mechanism was in the clock. So you might as well see if you can unscrew the hook hangers from the weights while somebody holds the weight body and weight bottom plate. Once the weights are apart you can remove the mechanism or maybe even just remove and re-install the drive chains as in this video.
@@ToddFun thank you sir you saved this friend of mine hundreds of dollars 😊
Todd, I have an antique grandfather clock triple weighter that chimes on the quarter hours but not on the hour. Any advice on how to repair? The clock keeps perfect time, just doesn't strike on the hour.
Does the weight for the hour drive train drop as normal as the clock runs? This is the weight on the left. If not then something is jammed or warren out like a pivot. Do you have a silence lever that might be 1/2 engaged? You can also look up a horologist in your area, they still make service calls in most places.
I do have some questions. My clock weight barrel 2 is 8.4 lbs, and one is 13.4 lbs. If I put 13.4 pounds in the chime, it works, but 8.4 pounds does not work in the clock mechanism. But if I put 13.4 pounds in the clock mechanism, it works. How can I fix this problem? Please help.
Todd,
I need to learn how to replace a weight cable of a cable driven grandfather clock. Do you have a video on this topic? Please let me have a link of it. Thanks.
Sorry I don't and I don't have such a clock. I looked online some but didn't find anything useful so maybe call a clock service center and see if they can talk you through the process. Good luck!
Thanks for your prompt reply.
Greetings from Canada, where can I buy chains for a pendulum-weighted clock?
try timesavers.com
Hi Todd,
My brother who was a Horologer recently passed away, leaving behind some work that was complete and some that still had to be looked at. I have at our shop, a grandfather clock movement that I need to return to the client and re-install into its cabinet.
watching this video about re-installing the drive chains has somewhat calmed me down and prepared me for the delivery and re-assembly of this grandfather clock. I do have other questions in regards to placing back the hands at the right ringing position, as well as properly placing the suspension and pendulum back.
do you have other helpful videos that can guide me somewhat? As my brother was receiving work from outside sources as well, a horologer is difficult to come by where we are situated. Can you help?? Thank you
Yes, I have a play list but not all of them may apply to your need.
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TOD *thank you again. There is one repair man here in Gainesville. I called him & have an appointment. Hope he can repair our old beautiful grandfather clock
Great! let me know how it works out.
Margaret can you please put me in contact with repair man in
gainesville I have a Howard miller wall clo0ck from 1979 that needs a once over and the time adjusted I live half way between gainesville and Ocala 5 houses up from 441 Anne
I followed your instructions and was able to attach the chains but my pendulum seems to stop swinging after 15 mins. Any idea why thatd be?
are your weights in the right location? There’s a small piece of spring steel just above the pendulum, called the pendulum spring. Sometimes they can get cracks in them and not swing properly anymore. Also, your clock could get worn out where the pivot points or wobble out and the gears are not able to rotating straight, causing the clock to slow and stop. Clocks also need to be oiled every two years. and Clocks should be removed and cleaned by a professional at least if they’re 20 or 30 years old.
My mom's clock has wire instead of chain. The two on the outside are stuck up. I think she wound them too tight. Do you have one for that?
No I don't. Sorry.
Hello Sir, I am James from Scottsdale, Arizona. I have recently received a 1973 Tempus Fugit Grandfather clock that has been in the family since 1973. I have found your post extremely helpful but as I have come to find, I am missing a component that makes up the VERGE assembly. If I had to I could probably fabricate something but where would I be able to purchase components?
Appearantly I am missing the component that slides into the center of the cylinder or rod with a slat cut into it directly in the back of the dial. I have the pendulum and the oddly shaped key of sorts that the pendulum rides on I need the componet between the oddly shaped key and the cylinder with the slat cut into it. This cylinder has a set screw twist knob adjustment. Can I fabricate something to work or where can I obtain parts? Thank you in advance kind Sir!
Well you live in Scottsdale so just drive over to timesavers.com and ask for some help locating parts. They have great people there and tons of parts. If they can't find parts I'm sure somebody from the back room can point you in the right direction to fab a fix. Bring photos or the mechanism if possible.
Todd Harrison You are a good man Charlie Brown. I will consult with them and hopefully resolve concerns. I will let you know how it goes.
Very interesting and helpful. Thank you. Just a small point, all grandfather clocks do necessarily have side access panels to access the movement. My clock's hood has to be lifted off for this purpose. Thanks again.
What would make the chain ratchet slipp allowing the weight to drop a few inches?
A broken or damaged ratchet click spring (happens most often). Or damaged or worn out ratchet teeth / click spring pawl (not very likely but possible). Or worn out pivots bushing allowing the drum to misalign enough so click spring pawl can skip ratchet teeth. (possible on old clocks or clocks never oiled regularly)
I'm not sure if the pendulum or roller is broken on my Howard Miller clock but if you know what could be wrong please let me know. But I'm not sure if the gears are broken but I don't know a lot about those clocks, I'm not sure if the time on the clock has something to do with it. I did notice that the weight in the middle has a little dent in it but it's not that big I'd say like half an inch or something. (If you can help me please let me know)
You're going to need somebody to give it a good looking over. Google for local clock repair service. Many still do house calls.
Help! My weights went to far down and the pull is caught up in the works. I can't feel it, so it is beyond what I can reach. What can I do myself to retrieve the pull? Thank you
Try a long needle noise pliers
Might be the single most helpful grandfather clock video I’ve found online! Thank you for making such a helpful video, you’ve saved us all a ton of time and money ❤
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 9 tube chime urgo 3071b. We have sonic cleaned it oiled it and disassembled reassembled put more weight put it in beat and time and still cant get it to engage to make it chime. HELP!!!!!
Most likely something is wrong with the mechanism. Best to have a perfectional horologist service it in case it's bushing problem. They have the specialty tools to put in new bushing.
I am new to Grandfather Clocks, really have no real experience other than 2-3 months or so. I have a Howard Miller Clock, and have been pulling the weights down from left-to the middle and then the far right. I have a chain pull for all 3 weights. It’s a 1972 clock. Well early this morning the weights we’re getting low and I pulled them up in the same order I described above. All even high. When I was pulling the 3rd far right weight, I noticed it would intermittently chime, that perhaps the chains may have been making them vibrate. A few hours or so later, I learned I hadn’t heard any of the chimes sound off at all. The time keeping was correct, but no chimes at all, not on the quarter, the hour or 30 mins turns. Nothing at all. I noticed only the middle weight had come down a little, the 3rd weight on the right did not come down at all. The far left weight wasn’t really noticeable to me if it had. My clock does not have side access panels, but has a rear access panel. I was able to retrieve the 3 rd weight chain and gradually and carefully gain some slack to make the chain a bit longer. I reattached all the weights back on and the clock moves, but I still have no chimes at all. I’m not sure if that 3rd weight being hung up may have knocked the clock sync or timing off, if that’s even the correct terminology to use. Anyone have any suggestions? I used it for 3 months and it worked great. When I pulled the back panel off the back, I noticed 1 of the hammers frozen in the pulled back position . The other hammers seem to be flush with the strings/cords. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much. You have convinced me that I have no business getting into my grandfather's Clocks gears and chains since my sprockets overlap and are hard to get to. Best leave this to an expert.
I bought a Howard Miller triple chime, where for whatever reason, the guy took the chains out. With the movement still in the case, I found the ideal tool was a mechanic's retrieval tool. They're a flexible wound-wire choke cable about 2 feet long with a button on one end that extends a tiny claw on the other. I simply hooked the chain in the claw and was able to reach right into the movement, and set the chains onto the sprockets
Hi Todd, I got a grandfather clock by Coloniar and it works fine but Chime . do you have any clip for chime?
Some. All my clock videos are in this play list: th-cam.com/play/PL40clH-yZ7flbW79e7sXZ8Ws9sJbA5zFj.html
Your video just saved us $375. Thank you. The tip about using 18 gauge wire was so helpful. We have a 1980's Ridgeway Tempus Fugit chain driven grandfather clock. We recently had to remove the weights to move the clock. I actually raised the left and right weights too high and couldn't get the weights off. Thanks to your video we remedied the problem. Somehow in the process the chain for middle weight came out. Question: Does the middle chain feed from left to right? Thank you
I watch your video and is very helpful. I was able to remove one weight, However, the other two weights were pulled up too far and I am not able to remove them. How can I fix that?
It is a Howard Miller
What weight did you take off already? If it was the center weight just put it back on and let the clock run for a few day making sure it is not in silent mode and the other weights should come down.
My grandfather clock does NOT seem to have side panel access. I looked on the inside of the cabinet to see if there were any
pieces holding the side panels in place, but there are none. The side panels seem to be 'fixed' in place and don't move.
Then the top might come off forward or just have to the mechanism out.
I recently purchased a Howard Miller grandfather clock from someone and it came with a broken chime rod this is my first grandfather clock I'm wondering do I have to replace the whole chime block or can I just replace the one chime rod it has a brass screw that the rod is embedded in and it broke off flush of the screw it is a side mount chime block any ideas any help would be grateful thank you and I love you videos I'm very informative
Charles
Call these people during business hours. They will need to know the make and model of the clock as well as which chime is broken. They might even sell chime rods on the website. However, after mounting you will have to tune it and unless you have a good ear that might be difficult. If it has to be tuned and you cut off too much the rod is no good. timesavers.com/contact.html
Thank you so much. I inherited a clock that my grandfather built and the weight broke off due to old chains. It is important for me to keep this clock working!
Good luck with your repairs. Keep me updated.
love old world time pieces. your videos are great.
I recently came in possession of the Howard Miller grandfather clock model number 610-232. It’s been in my family since 1981. It has everything but the chains. Does anyone know what size change and how long. Thank you very much.
You best option is to call Time Savers during business hours and ask them if they can help. they do sell chains for just about every clock so they should know what would best fit your cogs: timesavers.com/search.html?q=chain&go=Search
My chains have circular eyelets so they can be installed either way I used a plastic tie to fish the chain. It is flexible but it keeps straight just enough to push through. Like your videos
Thank you for this wonderful video. I was able to repair my grandfather clock when one of the weights spontaneously came apart after 30 years of use and detached the chain from the gear.
Glad it helped
my roommate inherited a Tempus Fugit Grandfather Clock.and had it moved, but now it is not workin..thanks for the info..will watch your other vids to troubleshoot the situation...I love a challenge...hope to hear it chime
Glad to help
Thanks so much for the informative video. I've been trying to find someone to help with this for over a year! It took awhile but I got it done! NOW where can I find replacement hooks for the weights. I lost one. No luck on the Howard Miller side
Might be best to just buy all new chains with hooks if they have what you need at Time Savers: timesavers.com/c-325857-clock-repair-replacement-parts-weights-weight-shells-components.html
Thank you so much! This video was a huge help in getting my dad's clock going again.
I have my moms 1960 wall weight driven German Junghans clock. I hung it two days ago will run for about 24 hours and stop in the AM. Why? Will chime on the hour & half hour like it should. Help please
Could just need a good cleaning and oil if it doesn't have worn out pivots. If your not up to the task you could take it to a local Horologist.
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Got my chains on and the middle sprocket just spins. It does not ratchet?
Click spring is broke or jammed. It will need service by a local horologist if you can't do the work yourself.
@@ToddFun Thanks!
I’m reassembling my clock-the middle weight drops all the way down and cannot ratchet it up at all. Other two work fine.
You have the weight on the wrong side of the chain.
Todd Harrison Thank you for your response. No, weight is on the correct side. I’m afraid I may have damaged it while putting the chain back on.
Todd Harrison I did switch the weight on the off chance the maybe this hookup was different from the way you described in your video but...just not happening. Thanks again.
@@donaldrecine9149 What happen when you switched the weight to the other side of the chain? Did it hang without ratcheting down fast? If so let it set and see if the clock starts working after swinging the pendulum to get it ticking. Then watch video to make sure clock is in beat so it runs good.
Todd Harrison I had originally set the middle weight so that it ratcheted in the same direction as the right hand weight. Then set it in the other direction as stated earlier. Each time the weight drops all the way down...I pull on the chain but there isn’t any “stopper” to hold the weight in place to keep it from dropping. Either I rattled it too much in the move or I somehow did something wrong when putting the chain back on. I’m surprised because I didn’t force anything, actually it was fairly easy getting it back together. Chains went on without any problem and the 2 outside ones are fine.
Suspension Spring 5/8 x 5/16. does 15.5mm x 8mm work?
Not sure. I would call time savers in the morning and given them any info on the clock and they should be able to find your exact replacement.
Thank you Todd
I'm glad I found your channel. My wife bought me a Herschede grandfather clock (model 325, 3 weights) for my birthday. I've always wanted a nice antique clock & she found a nice looking one on Craigslist. It's missing the pendulum & the chains are off. I'll use this video to give it a shot on my own.
I'm wondering how to get the mechanism out of the cabinet. I can see the wingnuts on either side holding it in place. I guess I take off the clock hands but do I pull the face off too so the mechanism comes out the front? Which other videos of yours do you recommend me watching first?
Thanks!
I was hoping to find a video that would lead me in the right direction.but this one Sir, took me all the way. THANK YOU!!!.
Glad it helped!
The Clock does not chime at all now. Yesterday it would chime at right time but minute hand would be on 3. Think I may have to call someone. Thanks for the fast response yesterday.
True. Let me know what they find. Sounds like for sure the nut on the back of the minute hand needs to be turned backwards for that 3 minute correction. You sure you didn't just move the silent switch to the silent position? That would cause it to stop chiming.
Cora / 31 from Alaska here. 1st order of import, THANKYOU for the time you’ve taken to help with my very specific inquiry , refreshing , so again, your time is definitely appreciated ,,
With the feeding through of the chain, since there are the teeth that the chain loops fit over and are easily rotated into the direction you want to feed the chain ,
is it feasible to place the chain onto the teeth and then manually manipulated to spin the chain up and over , continuing until the chain is in the desired length . (I am writing this while watching , starting after threading the first , left , chain. Random , but letting it be know )
Again, THANK YOU THANK YOH THANKYOU
Yes if you can get that chain started that way and then if you can manipulate the sprocket to turn it will work. I would say only a few clocks that type of loading would work.
Thanks Todd! The the chain for the middle weight of my clock came off the sprocket. With your detailed instruction I was able to put it back in place without too much difficulty. My clock is up and running again.
Glad to be of help!
My weight is lying in the chair. The chair was pulled too far by me (up into the clock) and I can't see the end to get it out. I got a flashlight and a mirror, but still can't see it. The side do not come off of this Amish clock. This has really upset me because I can't fix it myself. Please tell me what I should do Todd?
Todd, have my parents Grandmother clock that was made by the Amish. When I tried to start it back today, I had the weight in my right hand and my left hand pulled the chain too far up into the clock. I'm about in tears. I got a flashlight and tried to see the end, and can't. Now what do I do. My husband is anything but a handyman and I'm not a handyman, so what do you suggest. I live far out in the country close to Willy Nelson. To get the clock man out here is going to cost a lot of money. Please help me. Mary Kay Falkner
Can't you just let it run and the weights will come down by themselves.
Thank you, Todd. This saved me considerable cash by allowing me to fix a chain end that had gotten caught up in the quarterly chimes' sprocket. It took me only 20 minutes to fix it!
Glad to have helped Christine.
Hi one of my chains came out and I am having a hard time getting it back in thanks
Glad to have helped
Hi Todd, thank you so much for your videos! You're always so clear and so thorough with your explanations and demos. I have a quick question about a fairly old grandmother clock that hasn't been in use for awhile. It still keeps time, but the chiming mechanism is off. The quarterly chime drive gear is moving way too fast and is going non-stop the moment the weight is loaded. The hourly chime is only working sporadically. We tried oiling the wells, but didn't seem to fix the problem. Any tips on things to try at home, without having to take the clock apart by a professional? Thanks again!
I don't know many clocks but on mine if the set screw under the quarterly cam was not tight I would think that would cause it to run nonstop. As for speed you might want to make sure the right butterflies governers ate able to swing open smoothly and paddle the air for correct air resistance which is what controls the speed.
Thanks! I was able to do the outside chains without much fuss just feeding them in from the sides without any other tools, but that center one has me stumped. I will give it a try with some wire.
Excellent! Hope it works.
Thanks a lot for your helpful video my grandmother just recently passed away and I ended up with her beautiful grandfather clock the chain had came out years ago and now I know how to put it back in.
Glad to help, hope it all goes well.
Great video. Detailed and clear. Helped me fix my clock and it took me just 30 minutes or so - once I found the wire to loop around the gears. I recommend taking the door off the clock. Easier to get your hands in and around where you need to pull the chains.
Great to hear!
Hi. At the beginning of the video, you said you would show how to fix the chains if they've been pulled up too high after taking the weights off. Can you tell me how to do that? I can't find a fix video anywhere. I will look at your blog for this as well. Thanks
I don't have a video for that, sorry. Sometimes you can unscrew the weight canisters and drop the weights out the bottom of the tubes. This can give you enough room to unhook the top of the weights. Then remove the hocks, pull the chain through and then follow my video on re-threading the chains. If you can't take the hooks off because they are too high sometimes you can still pull the hooks and chain trough by pocking a wire around inside to fish the chain and hook around any gears and shafts. Hope that helps. Other than that you'll have to have a horologist service the clock.
When should you stop pulling the weights, so they won't get stuck?
Thank you for explaining things so simply. Wonderful directions. You saved us $150+.