i feel like there is a way they could do this right but they probably won't. If it was like $60-70 bucks, and the headliners were a mix of mid sized legacy acts (taking back sunday, hawthorne heights, senses fail, underoath etc.) and "newer" bands that have heat right now (hot mulligan, mom jeans, magnolia park, meet me @ the alter) and then like a few dozen up and comers / slightly smaller bands (carly cosgrove, arm's length, charmer, ben quad, the list could go on and on) it could be a really cool way to bridge that gap between the "elder emos" and the scene as it is today, but sadly i don't know if they would take a chance on that.
They should go crazy with it. Bryan Stars x Johnny Guilbert bare knuckle boxing. An evening with Frankie Palmeri. Ronnie Radke debates Connie Sgarbossa
1. Johnny gonna beat that man’s ass 2. Hell no to an evening with him 3. Ronnie vs that entire band in mud wrestling 4. Dahvie having a seat with Chris Hanson
@@userkeepinglock it would be amazing if the end of the road for that man would be a Hanson warped tour headlining set with LAPD playing drums and guitar
funny you mention the 'disney-adultification' of it all, because like two days ago i opened up spotify and was recommended a new compilation album released by disney where it's a bunch of the songs from their 90s-early 2000s movies covered by literally yellowcard, bowling for soup, mayday parade, etc.
@@PrincessMeganLeigh it's not uncool. I still listen to plenty of music I listened to in high school. I think it's more just seeing what it is. It's a nostalgia trip. I think some millennials want to assume they're above the trappings of getting older, but we really aren't.
@theysaykillerwhales I have a whole personal website dedicated to nostalgia, but I also love discovering new things that will turn into nostalgia. I like remembering things that I like and I genuinely don't know what you mean by "trappings of getting older", but I'm sorry you feel that way
@theysaykillerwhales ??? no, just confused. I'm excited about the possibility of an experience I liked coming back and a lot of people are not, because "getting older". I was trying to understand, but it seems more like an arbitrary loss of joy you can't explain
If the WWWY-ification thing is true, it kinda feels like it goes against the original spirit of the thing - Warped was the event it was in part because tickets were only $40, using the Warped branding for like five $300 dates just seems kinda sad
i'd pay more for warped but the model of wwwy - set times, setup, location - sucks and i won't buy if it's just wwwy in my area. it'd have to have what the og warped tour had
I lowkey think it's cringe, it's like people in their 30s don't want to pass Warped Tour to the next generation and just want to be the same person instead of evolving. Idk if I want to go to a festival with dudes in their 40s singing about being toxic to their high school girlfriends. Warped Tour has always been about new music in the alternative world, not nostalgia bullshit.
You can have it, it's probably not going to be the same cause it's a different company running it, they love to let people buy and re sell tickets at ridiculous prices ❤
I agree with you and I'm in my mid 30s, loved the 2000s music scene, was an og scene kid and even I don't want to try to relive that, the whole "spirit" of it that time can't be recaptured, only cheaply imitated
I think the right way to go forward with warped tour would be to keep the format but not the music. Warped tour was about being an affordable event to showcase new artists and give them a platform. The tour should be handed over to the new generation of artists for young kids to enjoy.
If Livenation is in charge of it, it’s going to to be like “When We Were Young” prices. However, I love the idea of an updated lineup of Warped Tour. I hope they continue to keep it fresh and new. Also, please do a Hit The Lights and/or Senses Fail video!!!!
it will probably be like wwwy lineup too. Which is a major hard pass from me. The whole point of warped is the upcoming post hardcore and metalcore bands on the side stages. With LN in charge, it will be too much nostalgia bait, and not enough, or none at all, newer acts
Met someone who equated panic at the disco, paramore and bands like that to the Jonas Brothers bc they grew up watching the Disney channel, so i feel your comparison to emo nostalgia festival goers to Disney adults makes enough sense. To these people, emo was just a temporary thing they could toy with to pass time, y'know, just another product or whatever, nothing to put much thought towards or nothing
Exactly I hate also how people always bring up being younger when the music is on or when these bands come up like it was just a phase I’ve listened to these same albums from 13-30 I never think of it as a time capsule I think of it as MUSIC
Warped Tour wont be around $50 like it used to be. Im guessing probably $200+. I went to warped like 8 years in a row and i really miss it but it wont be the same if it doesn't go all around the country like it used to.
Sad summer fest this year was like $75 so I'm assuming it would be around that depending on how many cities but I'm expecting a bunch of cities most people can't get to
If it's like a big 3 day festival, then no. But if it's warped TOUR - then this should keep happening. Opinions of new music is irrelevant. Let the next generation of music do good or bad so that it can evolve and continue to grow.
watching people go to warped every year as a kid but not having anyone to take me, im kinda hype at the chance to see that come back, but i agree that it'll probably end up being another 300$+ wwwyf with the same lineup. a part of me has hope that it'll be warped tour still though
Your Bizkit comment got me thinking. Recently they did a tour with Cory Feldman. That’s a rabbit hole I’d absolutely recommend investigating. All kinds of drama. Not as much as that recent Jane’s Addiction show in Boston, but intriguing nonetheless.
Durst and Feldman have always been friends he even collabed on one of Feldmans songs i always hear Feldman is a weird nice guy just a terrible musician lmao
IDGAF what anyone has to say about this..I begged my parents to go for years. By the time I got old enough to make my own decision on the conversation with my own money it ended. I'm going if it's the last thing I do. I can acknowledge the problematic roots but I'm going to be there
Actually what I'm getting excited about now at age 27, 28 in a few weeks, is the hardcore/metalcore/slam Maggot Stomp scene. Bands like Peelingflesh, 200 Stab Wounds, Sanguisugabogg, Torture, Snuffed on Sight, et cetera. It's new and way more DIY and the music is heavyyyyyy and the culture and band members and scene are cool and open minded but also kinda outcasts. It's reminiscent to me of when the crabcore and metalcore scene started to get traction 15 years ago.
I’m a UK viewer so it’s was always a dream to go to Warped Tour but unless this fest is going to push new bands it might be that you’re right and it’s more of a nostalgia hit. I’m enjoying revisiting my peak emo days by seeing bands I haven’t for over a decade play anniversary tours or joint gigs together. I think they’re a much better way of remembering how good they are. I’d love to see a tour that mixes in the scene legends with newer acts that they inspire and keep pushing things forward that way.
Totally agree with you. I remember in the summer, had 40 bucks and got a bunch of friends and stayed all day. I also remember while waiting in line small bands would travel with warp tour and have MP3's on them so you could by their CD. Great times man.
Went to my local grocery store to find a can of Monster water that has warped tour art on it. My inner emo/scene kid gasped and asked my mom if I can buy it then remembered I’m 26 and can buy it myself😂 I put it back on the shelf
You should do a "Rise Of Hollywood Undead" video there's surprisingly little documentary style videos of them despite how popular they were 10-15 years ago
You know, I think a similar thing happeened when I was in middle school and then in high school. My first warped was 2000, and then 2001, and the next one I went to was 2005 and 2006. In 2000 and 2001 there almost strictly old school punk bands, like The casualties, social distortion, pennywise, bouncing souls, NOFX, and then ska bands like Less than jake. The next time I went was to see Circa Survive, and the venu was much larger (in Buffalo it went from a waterfront park to a six flags location). And even though I loved seeing circa at the later warped tours, a lot of people were like "wtf" happened to the old warped tour. Just my thoughts. I liked both versions. But some people felt exactly like you do now. At these later dates, many people were against all the new emo bands, and referred to it as a "teeny bopper" thing. I think the only three bands I watched on those later dates were Chiodos, Circa Survive, and My Chemical Romance. It was fun.
Coming from an earlyer generation of Warped tour attendee's, Punk in Drublic basically seemed like a Warped Tour re-hash. I went to a couple and I thought it felt pretty wholesome. With that era of punk having a fairly understated asthetic it didnt feel too much like a dress-up party.
ill root for warped tours comeback if they have bands like seeyouspacecowboy, static dress, fromjoy and all those modern innovative post hardcore/metalcore bands on the bill lol
I went every year from 2008-18 so it was definitely something I enjoyed and anticipated whole heartedly. I was definitely a metalcore kid back then so I just hung out at the Monster stage most of the time lol. Golden memories indeed. However I’m not holding my breath on this one. Between Livenation doing Livenation things and the whole Disney adult/elder emo thing, it’s got my hopes way low. I still love a lot of my old music from back in the day but I’d rather just listen to it at home. As far as new music that I listen to and seek out in a live setting, I’m way more into Reggae now. Well said dude, thank you for being honest and not being one of those “zomg this is the best thing ever guise!” view that so many people seem to have. Respect
Solidly based review. As a Brit, we don't have anything resembling Warped Tour, except possibly Download, Leeds and Reading, but they're very commercialised
It happens all the time,with every genre/generation. Right now all the scene kids and emo kids are all grown up and (some of them) have great jobs and some disposable income so the music industry jumps on it. Hit 'em in the feels, make 'em spend their money! Sucks but capitalism always wins.
As a Brit I’ve not really engaged with the convo abt warped tour coming back. As many will know we still have slamdunk fest here which is basically warped tour and has been going since the early 2000s. I go every year, its a wonderful atmosphere but i can get why ppl want warped back so they can experience it the same way slamdunk is our equivalent of your warped. I just have a sinking feeling people our gonna be disappointed as it’s overhyped and not authentic when i comes around.
I knew I was old when I started getting ads on Facebook for the Emo's Not Dead Cruise. Not that I wouldn't love to play shuffle board with Chiodos, I know that the 80's and 90s babies are now expected to have disposable income so they'll be trying to syphon that money through nostalgia. I personally don't want Warped Tour to come back because it wasn't safe. I would never bring the teens in my life to warp tour or let them go unsupervised because too many people got abused there.
If it came back, it would be another millennial nostalgia fest like WWWY. Would only showcase a few new bands while catering to an audience who peaked in 2000s. Wouldn’t be worth it.
I talk with my friends about this a lot but I feel like the definition of Emo music has been retroactively changed over the years. Bands that weren't considered "Emo" in the 2000s are now considered Emo and it's weird. Some butt rock makes it way in there too somehow. Really weird. Warped in 2025 would not be the same.
@@huddleaw I’ve seen some butt rock nowadays that claims to be a part of the emo movement. Also, take a look at what a festival named Summer School Tour had to offer. If that’s emo (in which most people out there think it is), then it’s best to stick with anything 2002 and before. Most of the stuff you see that has any part in the modern emo movement is nothing but cringe and try-hard. Not trying to be a gatekeeper, but something’s gotta give.
I loved lil peeps music, it felt like he took the emo influence to a new direction that to this day no one has been able to replicate the feel of, mgk and everyone who followed in his footsteps feel like cheap knockoffs who completely miss the point and are doing it all for a cash grab just to hop to the next trend when he's done with it.
Just FYI, I agree with everything you're saying but the term "emo revival" has been used since like 2010 to describe bands that were reviving the emo sound divorced from the aesthetic, i.e. Modern Baseball, Merchant Ships, Tigers Jaw, and all those bands that sounded more like the 90s emo bands vs the soft pop metalcore sound of warped tour bands. So you might wanna coin a different term here.
I couldn't agree more with you Cozy. If it does come back as just a handful of huge festival dates...it's not Warped Tour. What made Warped so special was that it was a TRAVELING music festival. It was so DIY feeling. It was great as a young dude that lived in the middle of nowhere Kansas because Warped always had a date in Bonner Springs. The area of the country that I live in didn't even get to attend the farewell shows that they did in a few major cities during the final Warped run. So once this becomes another giant music festival like your Bonnaroo's or Lollapalooza's, I already know that it won't come near me. I think I'm just over the whole thing as I'm nearing 30. This revival feels like some big cash grab using the name of something nostalgic. Now it does come back as it was, I'll totally support it. But I don't want it to feel like some old legacy thing. I want it to be for the kids that are getting into this avenue of music now. They should bring out a mixture of bands that would frequently play, but also bring out new upcoming artists for the new generation to get excited about. I think that would be a great thing, but I also know how greedy the world is now. Ahh the good ole days.
I actually agree with this 100%. I feel like alot of your videos are very optimistic so I didnt know you'd pretty much mirror my cynicism on "scene revival" type stuff
I’ve never been so I’m going. I bought some passes today for an awesome price. I hear a lot of shit about the tour but I love music and I’m going so I can experience something that I find super interesting. Call me a Disney adult or whatever but fuck that man. I want to hear live music in a place I’ve never been.
Out of all these emo revival fests and events, I think Sad Summer Fest has kept it as close to the real thing as one could get now. It’s affordable. It takes place in many towns. Its blend of old and new. It has a community vibe. Did i mention it’s affordable? Im not gonna, having disposable income has enabled me to many, many of favorite bands in very intimate settings during these “XXth anniversary of X album” tours has been an absolute dream. But there is definitely a cosplay/halloween costume factor to it as you mention; there’s almost always a crowd of people slightly outside of the age range in those shows peacocking scenecore outfits. While there’s a time and place, its kinda out of place at Finch show where everyone is wearing dark jeans and hoodies; I have seen others physically cringe at those scenecore groups. Idk maybe im an old man yelling at clouds. But I would prefer that emo would go back to basements, ballrooms, dingy lit rented out VFW halls or the corner of a bowling alley that just happens to have a stage. I think emo needs another reboot.
me and my tumblr mutuals called it when wwwy fest first came out. no but being fr nostalgia is the worst thing ever, and its really sad to see newer bands being overlooked because some 30 year old millenial cant let fall out boy go. i guess its just what happens when you grow up but also its like, ridiculously lame.
Yeah I doubt this will have the same spirit as the original war tour./Alternative culture is all nostalgia now and not based on the current day like it used to be. All the main acts will be nostalgia from the 2000s or even 2010s because that’s where the money is at.
I have mixed feelings about a lot of this. Like, if it's just a few dates with a good line up at a reasonable price then yeah I might consider going. But you will never see "Live Nation" and "reasonable price" in the same sentence. I'm going to see Underoath and Static Dress in a few days for the price I would have paid for a full Warped Tour date in the early 2010's. I do think I am getting my money's worth but it is a little sad that I'm paying that much to see just two bands when that money would have had me seeing 20+ bands in 2014 or whatever. As far as the Disney Adult-ificiation/emo LARP shit goes, I try not to let it bother me too much but I also can't help but initially have a visceral reaction when I see the sort of people who made fun of me for "being emo" in high school basically cosplaying as emo/scene people now. At the same time, I also realize it's a little silly to still be stuck on how people treated me when I was 15 or 16 when I'm turning 31 in a couple months. I have way more important things to worry about than whether or not someone's interest in the scene is genuine or just for clout, and it's not my place or my style to gatekeep stuff like that.
i think if warped tour happened, it should be for the teens again. it should be around the country too, and tickets shouldn’t be 200+ dollars. it shouldn’t be some millennial nostalgia cash grab! though it most likely will
Hard disagree. I see your loint of view. But for me as an 18 year old fan if current pop punk without the older babds not many people will sadly go anymore. I hope they do put an enphasis in outting new babds in there too. Also its really hard fir bands to tour now. Warped tours set up is badly needed for bands especially new bands. Thats if they hipefully put new bands.
I get what your saying when you look on more of the mainstream emo resurgence but there's a good community of teenagers (like me) on social media who listen to og emo and scene music and adopt the actual style/not scenecore. I mean if you look at the millionaires spotify monthly listeners last year it was around 10k and now it's around 100k and i don't know if a lot of people know about it. I do get what you mean about the disney adultification of the resurgence when you look at the intended age range of this nostalgia bait. I've never said it but it all just seems like adults trying to cling on to they're childhood instead of letting go. I understand listening to the music and everything but when you're so submerged into what once was is when it starts to feel like disney adult territory.
though i do wish there would be efforts to create new spaces for new rock and alternative music to thrive instead of the constant nostalgia baiting, i think there is a way to make a warped toutr revival work. dont make it too expensive (i guess 40$ is unrealistic but how about 80$ or something), invite a good mix of current up and coming artists and beloved older ones, in general don't rely on nostalgia instead of quality. warped tour always had a variety of genres which evolved over its runtime aswell and still keep evolving to this day, its not all dead.
I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on the fourth wave emo/revival bands of the 2010s like Modern Baseball and Turnover. I don't know if you've heard much of those kinds of groups, but it'd be interesting to hear you talk about it in a video.
I’m glad I’m not alone. I hate the emo revival. When people wear “elder emo” stuff it makes me cringe. You really nailed exactly how I feel about all of this.
Thanks for turning me on to Glimmers, False Hope is a banger. Also the last Warped Tour I attended was 2013, and even then it felt like the scene was dying out. For sure bands like FtSK were becoming quickly irrelevant and 'outdated'. I'm happy that The Ready Set is still around and has stuck to the same style, just with a modern twist.
So it might not be the ideal solution, but I went to look back at Warped 2019 since that was a similar set up to WWWY. The price for the 2-day events was around $150. If they were following that model, that would make it more appealing since that’s half the price of other festivals. Though I do think the real solution would be to have a new Tour that followed what Warped was all about since that would actually be continuing the original vision.
I feel like the majority of people who claim “Emo” now and go to WWWY fest and post emo memes are the people who were popular in high school and think they were emo back then because they knew the Paramore songs on the radio. I feel like the real reason for emo nostalgia is because that was the only standout memorable aesthetic for the 2000s so people who weren’t a part of it want to claim it because it reminds them of the time period.
i love that your first reaction was to roast rock feed. i think he sucks. he glazes radke so much he went out of his way when ronnie was offline for a few months to track him down to get an "update" like idk it's just so cringe. i dont like him at all and i totally agree with you about warped lol
@The Cozy Representative can please do a video on the 2000s emo/alt/pop punk to sexual assault pipeline? There is a whole SPREADSHEET listing all of the allegations of every band member during this time that is related to sexual misconduct/assault. Please make this video so I don't have to.
I last went to warped in 2016 when I was 22. I never went again because a) I felt like I had passed it in my life, b) I connected a lot less with the scene, and c) god it got too expensive.
I feel like this is gonna go the way of the Woodstock revivals of the 1990s - just a largely forgettable attempt to cash in on nostalgia for a recognized name. It'll happen and be forgotten, while the original will continue to be discussed and reflected upon as significant to the history of popular music. Hopefully with less arson, rioting, and lakes of human feces, though.
The last few years of warped sucked. Kevin completely lost touch with whats good and new. If they bring it back, its going to be like the 2019 festivals which sucked donkey nuts. I have 0 hope for a lineup. If it was like SNW, I'd be down, but we know it wont be. Its gonna be a bunch of oldhead pop punk bands that are cheap to get, and maybe 1 or 2 "big" headliners
i think you right for the most part but i think true emo will always live on in a more underground scene much like punk, ive been to many emoviolence shows and it definitely feels a lot more genuine
the first warped tour that i went to was legit the best day ever. watched bands that i liked nonstop from 11-9p. i'd go to a revival but you're right - it will probably suck. i'd probably have more fun at the fucking emo nite dj sets at my local venue. idk if we need anything more than that to cater to our nostalgia
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i feel like there is a way they could do this right but they probably won't. If it was like $60-70 bucks, and the headliners were a mix of mid sized legacy acts (taking back sunday, hawthorne heights, senses fail, underoath etc.) and "newer" bands that have heat right now (hot mulligan, mom jeans, magnolia park, meet me @ the alter) and then like a few dozen up and comers / slightly smaller bands (carly cosgrove, arm's length, charmer, ben quad, the list could go on and on) it could be a really cool way to bridge that gap between the "elder emos" and the scene as it is today, but sadly i don't know if they would take a chance on that.
a Cue spotting!!! im not optimistic about it being brought back. if its dead, keep it dead
They should go crazy with it. Bryan Stars x Johnny Guilbert bare knuckle boxing. An evening with Frankie Palmeri. Ronnie Radke debates Connie Sgarbossa
where do i buy tickets jfc 😭
1. Johnny gonna beat that man’s ass
2. Hell no to an evening with him
3. Ronnie vs that entire band in mud wrestling
4. Dahvie having a seat with Chris Hanson
the last one gave me whiplash 😭
@@userkeepinglock it would be amazing if the end of the road for that man would be a Hanson warped tour headlining set with LAPD playing drums and guitar
The last one is sending me lmaooo
funny you mention the 'disney-adultification' of it all, because like two days ago i opened up spotify and was recommended a new compilation album released by disney where it's a bunch of the songs from their 90s-early 2000s movies covered by literally yellowcard, bowling for soup, mayday parade, etc.
I found out about this when tokio hotel posted about it
I agree. The thing is emo became WAY too corporatized and it turned into a Halloween costume. The 80s hair metal night analogy is spot on.
Bro your take on the rock feed guy got me in tears rn
🤣🤣🤣
Same 😂
I read a couple years ago that Emo Nite for millennials is like an 80's night for boomers. That humbled me quickly
why is it uncool to keep liking music you like?
@@PrincessMeganLeigh it's not uncool. I still listen to plenty of music I listened to in high school. I think it's more just seeing what it is. It's a nostalgia trip. I think some millennials want to assume they're above the trappings of getting older, but we really aren't.
@theysaykillerwhales I have a whole personal website dedicated to nostalgia, but I also love discovering new things that will turn into nostalgia. I like remembering things that I like and I genuinely don't know what you mean by "trappings of getting older", but I'm sorry you feel that way
@@PrincessMeganLeigh I mean I guess. You seem to be the only one upset
@theysaykillerwhales ??? no, just confused. I'm excited about the possibility of an experience I liked coming back and a lot of people are not, because "getting older". I was trying to understand, but it seems more like an arbitrary loss of joy you can't explain
If the WWWY-ification thing is true, it kinda feels like it goes against the original spirit of the thing - Warped was the event it was in part because tickets were only $40, using the Warped branding for like five $300 dates just seems kinda sad
i'd pay more for warped but the model of wwwy - set times, setup, location - sucks and i won't buy if it's just wwwy in my area. it'd have to have what the og warped tour had
I lowkey think it's cringe, it's like people in their 30s don't want to pass Warped Tour to the next generation and just want to be the same person instead of evolving.
Idk if I want to go to a festival with dudes in their 40s singing about being toxic to their high school girlfriends.
Warped Tour has always been about new music in the alternative world, not nostalgia bullshit.
@@BlastBeatBreakdown Exactly the same about this. Hard pass to that. Disney adults at their lamest.
You can have it, it's probably not going to be the same cause it's a different company running it, they love to let people buy and re sell tickets at ridiculous prices ❤
I agree with you and I'm in my mid 30s, loved the 2000s music scene, was an og scene kid and even I don't want to try to relive that, the whole "spirit" of it that time can't be recaptured, only cheaply imitated
In 10 years Taylor Swift concerts will be women in their 40s singing about being toxic to their high school boyfriends.
Idk I think we need it more than ever tbh
I think the right way to go forward with warped tour would be to keep the format but not the music. Warped tour was about being an affordable event to showcase new artists and give them a platform. The tour should be handed over to the new generation of artists for young kids to enjoy.
If Livenation is in charge of it, it’s going to to be like “When We Were Young” prices.
However, I love the idea of an updated lineup of Warped Tour. I hope they continue to keep it fresh and new.
Also, please do a Hit The Lights and/or Senses Fail video!!!!
Wasn’t live nation in charge of the original run of Warped Tour though?
@@davidfc7136 I remember some of my stubs from them. But now it’s Livenation who is going to run them more. And Livenation is part of Ticketmaster.
@@davidfc7136 I believe at least towards the end of the tour. Ticketmaster is also part of Livenation.
it will probably be like wwwy lineup too. Which is a major hard pass from me. The whole point of warped is the upcoming post hardcore and metalcore bands on the side stages. With LN in charge, it will be too much nostalgia bait, and not enough, or none at all, newer acts
Oh, this is a nice hot take. I think that Warped Tour should stay a part of history just like Woodstock
But i dont want music to die😭😭😭
Met someone who equated panic at the disco, paramore and bands like that to the Jonas Brothers bc they grew up watching the Disney channel, so i feel your comparison to emo nostalgia festival goers to Disney adults makes enough sense. To these people, emo was just a temporary thing they could toy with to pass time, y'know, just another product or whatever, nothing to put much thought towards or nothing
Exactly I hate also how people always bring up being younger when the music is on or when these bands come up like it was just a phase I’ve listened to these same albums from 13-30
I never think of it as a time capsule I think of it as MUSIC
If tickets aren’t at least $400 I’m not going 😤
Warped Tour wont be around $50 like it used to be. Im guessing probably $200+. I went to warped like 8 years in a row and i really miss it but it wont be the same if it doesn't go all around the country like it used to.
Sad summer fest this year was like $75 so I'm assuming it would be around that depending on how many cities but I'm expecting a bunch of cities most people can't get to
@@TheJrockfreakI’m so mad this summer. I’m so sad this summer. I’m so mad this summer. Even on a Saturday noight
In my area it is over $400 hahaha definitely not going
@@stayaway7357 geeze that's like the price of when we were young tickets ( I did go to that this year but it was expensive).
Hosted by LiveNation is all I needed to hear, og Warped Tour goers, stay far way, it's a cash grab and most likely an expensive one at that
If it's like a big 3 day festival, then no. But if it's warped TOUR - then this should keep happening. Opinions of new music is irrelevant. Let the next generation of music do good or bad so that it can evolve and continue to grow.
watching people go to warped every year as a kid but not having anyone to take me, im kinda hype at the chance to see that come back, but i agree that it'll probably end up being another 300$+ wwwyf with the same lineup. a part of me has hope that it'll be warped tour still though
Your Bizkit comment got me thinking. Recently they did a tour with Cory Feldman. That’s a rabbit hole I’d absolutely recommend investigating. All kinds of drama. Not as much as that recent Jane’s Addiction show in Boston, but intriguing nonetheless.
Durst and Feldman have always been friends he even collabed on one of Feldmans songs i always hear Feldman is a weird nice guy just a terrible musician lmao
i had a great time at the Bizkit show. it was everything i wanted to hear
IDGAF what anyone has to say about this..I begged my parents to go for years. By the time I got old enough to make my own decision on the conversation with my own money it ended. I'm going if it's the last thing I do. I can acknowledge the problematic roots but I'm going to be there
Actually what I'm getting excited about now at age 27, 28 in a few weeks, is the hardcore/metalcore/slam Maggot Stomp scene. Bands like Peelingflesh, 200 Stab Wounds, Sanguisugabogg, Torture, Snuffed on Sight, et cetera. It's new and way more DIY and the music is heavyyyyyy and the culture and band members and scene are cool and open minded but also kinda outcasts. It's reminiscent to me of when the crabcore and metalcore scene started to get traction 15 years ago.
I’m a UK viewer so it’s was always a dream to go to Warped Tour but unless this fest is going to push new bands it might be that you’re right and it’s more of a nostalgia hit.
I’m enjoying revisiting my peak emo days by seeing bands I haven’t for over a decade play anniversary tours or joint gigs together. I think they’re a much better way of remembering how good they are.
I’d love to see a tour that mixes in the scene legends with newer acts that they inspire and keep pushing things forward that way.
Totally agree with you. I remember in the summer, had 40 bucks and got a bunch of friends and stayed all day. I also remember while waiting in line small bands would travel with warp tour and have MP3's on them so you could by their CD. Great times man.
I was waiting for your take on this
You actually constructively put into words how i feel about this whole situation.
Went to my local grocery store to find a can of Monster water that has warped tour art on it. My inner emo/scene kid gasped and asked my mom if I can buy it then remembered I’m 26 and can buy it myself😂 I put it back on the shelf
You should do a "Rise Of Hollywood Undead" video there's surprisingly little documentary style videos of them despite how popular they were 10-15 years ago
You know, I think a similar thing happeened when I was in middle school and then in high school. My first warped was 2000, and then 2001, and the next one I went to was 2005 and 2006.
In 2000 and 2001 there almost strictly old school punk bands, like The casualties, social distortion, pennywise, bouncing souls, NOFX, and then ska bands like Less than jake.
The next time I went was to see Circa Survive, and the venu was much larger (in Buffalo it went from a waterfront park to a six flags location). And even though I loved seeing circa at the later warped tours, a lot of people were like "wtf" happened to the old warped tour.
Just my thoughts. I liked both versions. But some people felt exactly like you do now.
At these later dates, many people were against all the new emo bands, and referred to it as a "teeny bopper" thing. I think the only three bands I watched on those later dates were Chiodos, Circa Survive, and My Chemical Romance. It was fun.
Coming from an earlyer generation of Warped tour attendee's, Punk in Drublic basically seemed like a Warped Tour re-hash. I went to a couple and I thought it felt pretty wholesome. With that era of punk having a fairly understated asthetic it didnt feel too much like a dress-up party.
Good takes here. Warped Tour should be a thing of the past.
as soon as you said Live Nation that was reason enough.
ill root for warped tours comeback if they have bands like seeyouspacecowboy, static dress, fromjoy and all those modern innovative post hardcore/metalcore bands on the bill lol
"Nobody make a soasin joke"..i get it😅
I went every year from 2008-18 so it was definitely something I enjoyed and anticipated whole heartedly. I was definitely a metalcore kid back then so I just hung out at the Monster stage most of the time lol. Golden memories indeed. However I’m not holding my breath on this one. Between Livenation doing Livenation things and the whole Disney adult/elder emo thing, it’s got my hopes way low. I still love a lot of my old music from back in the day but I’d rather just listen to it at home. As far as new music that I listen to and seek out in a live setting, I’m way more into Reggae now. Well said dude, thank you for being honest and not being one of those “zomg this is the best thing ever guise!” view that so many people seem to have. Respect
This is a warped fest. Not a warped tour, so if u don't live in LA, New York, or Chicago it won't affect us lol
Solidly based review. As a Brit, we don't have anything resembling Warped Tour, except possibly Download, Leeds and Reading, but they're very commercialised
As long as Chris Hanson is walking around I will feel safe
It happens all the time,with every genre/generation. Right now all the scene kids and emo kids are all grown up and (some of them) have great jobs and some disposable income so the music industry jumps on it. Hit 'em in the feels, make 'em spend their money! Sucks but capitalism always wins.
As a Brit I’ve not really engaged with the convo abt warped tour coming back. As many will know we still have slamdunk fest here which is basically warped tour and has been going since the early 2000s. I go every year, its a wonderful atmosphere but i can get why ppl want warped back so they can experience it the same way slamdunk is our equivalent of your warped. I just have a sinking feeling people our gonna be disappointed as it’s overhyped and not authentic when i comes around.
I knew I was old when I started getting ads on Facebook for the Emo's Not Dead Cruise. Not that I wouldn't love to play shuffle board with Chiodos, I know that the 80's and 90s babies are now expected to have disposable income so they'll be trying to syphon that money through nostalgia. I personally don't want Warped Tour to come back because it wasn't safe. I would never bring the teens in my life to warp tour or let them go unsupervised because too many people got abused there.
If it came back, it would be another millennial nostalgia fest like WWWY. Would only showcase a few new bands while catering to an audience who peaked in 2000s. Wouldn’t be worth it.
I talk with my friends about this a lot but I feel like the definition of Emo music has been retroactively changed over the years. Bands that weren't considered "Emo" in the 2000s are now considered Emo and it's weird. Some butt rock makes it way in there too somehow. Really weird. Warped in 2025 would not be the same.
@@huddleaw I’ve seen some butt rock nowadays that claims to be a part of the emo movement. Also, take a look at what a festival named Summer School Tour had to offer. If that’s emo (in which most people out there think it is), then it’s best to stick with anything 2002 and before. Most of the stuff you see that has any part in the modern emo movement is nothing but cringe and try-hard. Not trying to be a gatekeeper, but something’s gotta give.
I loved lil peeps music, it felt like he took the emo influence to a new direction that to this day no one has been able to replicate the feel of, mgk and everyone who followed in his footsteps feel like cheap knockoffs who completely miss the point and are doing it all for a cash grab just to hop to the next trend when he's done with it.
Honestly I feel music like snow strippers is the actual progression of ‘emo’ more on the electronic/dance music end but still
Just FYI, I agree with everything you're saying but the term "emo revival" has been used since like 2010 to describe bands that were reviving the emo sound divorced from the aesthetic, i.e. Modern Baseball, Merchant Ships, Tigers Jaw, and all those bands that sounded more like the 90s emo bands vs the soft pop metalcore sound of warped tour bands. So you might wanna coin a different term here.
@@KeganTheTowel “Millennial nostalgia-bait” would be a good term for it.
I couldn't agree more with you Cozy. If it does come back as just a handful of huge festival dates...it's not Warped Tour. What made Warped so special was that it was a TRAVELING music festival. It was so DIY feeling.
It was great as a young dude that lived in the middle of nowhere Kansas because Warped always had a date in Bonner Springs. The area of the country that I live in didn't even get to attend the farewell shows that they did in a few major cities during the final Warped run. So once this becomes another giant music festival like your Bonnaroo's or Lollapalooza's, I already know that it won't come near me.
I think I'm just over the whole thing as I'm nearing 30. This revival feels like some big cash grab using the name of something nostalgic.
Now it does come back as it was, I'll totally support it. But I don't want it to feel like some old legacy thing. I want it to be for the kids that are getting into this avenue of music now. They should bring out a mixture of bands that would frequently play, but also bring out new upcoming artists for the new generation to get excited about. I think that would be a great thing, but I also know how greedy the world is now. Ahh the good ole days.
Nice video man. I’ve always appreciated how genuine this channel is ❤
I actually agree with this 100%. I feel like alot of your videos are very optimistic so I didnt know you'd pretty much mirror my cynicism on "scene revival" type stuff
I’ve never been so I’m going. I bought some passes today for an awesome price. I hear a lot of shit about the tour but I love music and I’m going so I can experience something that I find super interesting. Call me a Disney adult or whatever but fuck that man. I want to hear live music in a place I’ve never been.
Out of all these emo revival fests and events, I think Sad Summer Fest has kept it as close to the real thing as one could get now. It’s affordable. It takes place in many towns. Its blend of old and new. It has a community vibe. Did i mention it’s affordable?
Im not gonna, having disposable income has enabled me to many, many of favorite bands in very intimate settings during these “XXth anniversary of X album” tours has been an absolute dream. But there is definitely a cosplay/halloween costume factor to it as you mention; there’s almost always a crowd of people slightly outside of the age range in those shows peacocking scenecore outfits. While there’s a time and place, its kinda out of place at Finch show where everyone is wearing dark jeans and hoodies; I have seen others physically cringe at those scenecore groups. Idk maybe im an old man yelling at clouds. But I would prefer that emo would go back to basements, ballrooms, dingy lit rented out VFW halls or the corner of a bowling alley that just happens to have a stage. I think emo needs another reboot.
people who unironically call themselfs "elder emo" will be excited for all of this
Please do a Breathe Carolina retrospective
Hey man can you do video on the rise and fall of Drive Thru Records?
This video should have been titled "Oh shit it looks like I'm growing up and I hate it because all the predictable things are happening".
me and my tumblr mutuals called it when wwwy fest first came out. no but being fr nostalgia is the worst thing ever, and its really sad to see newer bands being overlooked because some 30 year old millenial cant let fall out boy go. i guess its just what happens when you grow up but also its like, ridiculously lame.
Shout out See You Space Cowboy. Saw them last month and they were great. Highly reccomend ❤
I’m sad we never got a video about Bring Me The Horizon, A Day To Remember, or Pierce The Veil 😢
Emo is the new hair metal
Rock in general is dead
As long as Brand New comes back
Maybe Kevin’s affiliation will keep what makes warped tour not WWWY Fest
Yeah I doubt this will have the same spirit as the original war tour./Alternative culture is all nostalgia now and not based on the current day like it used to be. All the main acts will be nostalgia from the 2000s or even 2010s because that’s where the money is at.
@@OffLeatherWings True. It’s just gonna be another millennial cashgrab.
I have mixed feelings about a lot of this. Like, if it's just a few dates with a good line up at a reasonable price then yeah I might consider going. But you will never see "Live Nation" and "reasonable price" in the same sentence. I'm going to see Underoath and Static Dress in a few days for the price I would have paid for a full Warped Tour date in the early 2010's. I do think I am getting my money's worth but it is a little sad that I'm paying that much to see just two bands when that money would have had me seeing 20+ bands in 2014 or whatever.
As far as the Disney Adult-ificiation/emo LARP shit goes, I try not to let it bother me too much but I also can't help but initially have a visceral reaction when I see the sort of people who made fun of me for "being emo" in high school basically cosplaying as emo/scene people now. At the same time, I also realize it's a little silly to still be stuck on how people treated me when I was 15 or 16 when I'm turning 31 in a couple months. I have way more important things to worry about than whether or not someone's interest in the scene is genuine or just for clout, and it's not my place or my style to gatekeep stuff like that.
i think if warped tour happened, it should be for the teens again. it should be around the country too, and tickets shouldn’t be 200+ dollars. it shouldn’t be some millennial nostalgia cash grab! though it most likely will
what does "for the teens again" mean? when I went as a 14 year old girl the big bearded men made it clear to me I wasn't the target demographic
Hard disagree. I see your loint of view. But for me as an 18 year old fan if current pop punk without the older babds not many people will sadly go anymore. I hope they do put an enphasis in outting new babds in there too. Also its really hard fir bands to tour now. Warped tours set up is badly needed for bands especially new bands. Thats if they hipefully put new bands.
I get what your saying when you look on more of the mainstream emo resurgence but there's a good community of teenagers (like me) on social media who listen to og emo and scene music and adopt the actual style/not scenecore. I mean if you look at the millionaires spotify monthly listeners last year it was around 10k and now it's around 100k and i don't know if a lot of people know about it. I do get what you mean about the disney adultification of the resurgence when you look at the intended age range of this nostalgia bait. I've never said it but it all just seems like adults trying to cling on to they're childhood instead of letting go. I understand listening to the music and everything but when you're so submerged into what once was is when it starts to feel like disney adult territory.
The fact that something like an emo cruise exists is honestly so cursed. I feel you on this one & im not even old enough to be an elder emo.
Hot but respected take by our king
though i do wish there would be efforts to create new spaces for new rock and alternative music to thrive instead of the constant nostalgia baiting, i think there is a way to make a warped toutr revival work. dont make it too expensive (i guess 40$ is unrealistic but how about 80$ or something), invite a good mix of current up and coming artists and beloved older ones, in general don't rely on nostalgia instead of quality. warped tour always had a variety of genres which evolved over its runtime aswell and still keep evolving to this day, its not all dead.
Emo revival is corny
Spoken like a true emo
Great video boss!
Love your channel bro hope you’re doing well
You should do a video on Get Scared
I’m with you completely. I’m glad someone laid it all out like that.
I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on the fourth wave emo/revival bands of the 2010s like Modern Baseball and Turnover. I don't know if you've heard much of those kinds of groups, but it'd be interesting to hear you talk about it in a video.
I’m glad I’m not alone. I hate the emo revival. When people wear “elder emo” stuff it makes me cringe. You really nailed exactly how I feel about all of this.
I thought Fronz was supposed to run warped tour 😂
Thanks for turning me on to Glimmers, False Hope is a banger. Also the last Warped Tour I attended was 2013, and even then it felt like the scene was dying out. For sure bands like FtSK were becoming quickly irrelevant and 'outdated'. I'm happy that The Ready Set is still around and has stuck to the same style, just with a modern twist.
Dawg I almost spit my drink out when you said 'No one make a Saosin joke' hahaha
don’t gatekeep let the newbies enjoy it, i for one am dying for it to come back i’ve been waiting YEARS
Won't be the same but it's still good. Hope there's smaller bands too.
Honestly solid take
Rock feed man definitely a proud boy
So it might not be the ideal solution, but I went to look back at Warped 2019 since that was a similar set up to WWWY. The price for the 2-day events was around $150. If they were following that model, that would make it more appealing since that’s half the price of other festivals.
Though I do think the real solution would be to have a new Tour that followed what Warped was all about since that would actually be continuing the original vision.
I feel like the majority of people who claim “Emo” now and go to WWWY fest and post emo memes are the people who were popular in high school and think they were emo back then because they knew the Paramore songs on the radio. I feel like the real reason for emo nostalgia is because that was the only standout memorable aesthetic for the 2000s so people who weren’t a part of it want to claim it because it reminds them of the time period.
Everybody's collective Unc of 2007 has spoken they have to cancel it now
Money money money money money
i love that your first reaction was to roast rock feed. i think he sucks. he glazes radke so much he went out of his way when ronnie was offline for a few months to track him down to get an "update" like idk it's just so cringe. i dont like him at all and i totally agree with you about warped lol
@The Cozy Representative can please do a video on the 2000s emo/alt/pop punk to sexual assault pipeline? There is a whole SPREADSHEET listing all of the allegations of every band member during this time that is related to sexual misconduct/assault. Please make this video so I don't have to.
hey what is the spreadsheet calked?
Preying on all the 30 year olds who grew up with warped 😂
SEVEN YEARS, YOU ASSURED ME
I last went to warped in 2016 when I was 22. I never went again because a) I felt like I had passed it in my life, b) I connected a lot less with the scene, and c) god it got too expensive.
you are actively trying to piss in my cheerios
They should let 3rd wave emo consign itself to history. It should be about new music and new bands
I feel like this is gonna go the way of the Woodstock revivals of the 1990s - just a largely forgettable attempt to cash in on nostalgia for a recognized name. It'll happen and be forgotten, while the original will continue to be discussed and reflected upon as significant to the history of popular music. Hopefully with less arson, rioting, and lakes of human feces, though.
The last few years of warped sucked. Kevin completely lost touch with whats good and new. If they bring it back, its going to be like the 2019 festivals which sucked donkey nuts. I have 0 hope for a lineup. If it was like SNW, I'd be down, but we know it wont be. Its gonna be a bunch of oldhead pop punk bands that are cheap to get, and maybe 1 or 2 "big" headliners
First of all the true Warped Tour WAS about PUNK music until emo became a thing and thus began the downfall of Warped Tour.
any thoughts about the screamo revival? massive screamo scene going on right now.
i think you right for the most part but i think true emo will always live on in a more underground scene much like punk, ive been to many emoviolence shows and it definitely feels a lot more genuine
Prepare for scalpers to gauge prices by 200%
the first warped tour that i went to was legit the best day ever. watched bands that i liked nonstop from 11-9p. i'd go to a revival but you're right - it will probably suck. i'd probably have more fun at the fucking emo nite dj sets at my local venue. idk if we need anything more than that to cater to our nostalgia
Could you do a video diving into the history of A Skylit Drive?
hey whatever happened to that video you did about the Ronnie Radke vs I See Stars beef? I can't seem to find it