Europe Is Losing Its Factories

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    Into Europe: The European Union survived Russia's energy weapon, but it hasn't been without damage to its economy. Is Europe now facing deindustrialisation?
    00:00 Introduction
    00:57 Chapter 1: How Europe Survived Russia's Energy Weapon
    04:42 Chapter 2: Impact on the European Economy
    05:53 Chapter 3: Europe's Deindustrialisation
    7:54 Chapter 4: Europe's Economic Dilemma
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  • @IntoEurope
    @IntoEurope  ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Go check out the courses on Brilliant.org! Link: brilliant.org/IntoEurope/

    • @rickyyacine4818
      @rickyyacine4818 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unpopular opinion :
      1 first why eroupe care about the war Ukraine
      2 Ukraine is part of Russia for many year dated back to the kievn rus
      3 nato signed agreement in 1994 not push for the eu and nato in eastern Europe
      4 nato insane radical expansion to eastern Europe including ( hack election supporting pro eu building fucking us bases in Russia border )
      5 the eu it self is globalist Babylonian beocracy
      6 every country eu and nato enter it promotes :
      Mass migration ( refugee a war crimes done by nato and usa ) most of the country they immigrate are not in war no bored in country to replace the white population and make them minority in own countries !!
      _ porn addiction
      _atheism
      _lgbt and gay parade and u can't speak against this
      7 eroupe could have avoided all of this mass if kept their noses out of Ukraine
      8 the president of Ukraine himself was khazar jew pro gay globalist so that should rise red flags
      And eroupe complain ? 😠😂 I mean the balls on this guys

    • @ChinaSongsCollection
      @ChinaSongsCollection 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @2:34 I don't know about the Indian gas, but it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the gas China is sending to Europe is Russian gas.
      In fact, it makes no sense!
      China imports a lot of gas from both Russia and the US.
      The gas from Russia goes to China mainly via pipelines, ....while the gas from the US goes to China on LNG tankers.
      In order for China to resell Russian gas to Europe, China will have to :
      1) liquify the gas, and then
      2) transport the liquified LNG to the ports, and then
      3) load the ships.
      All these cost a lot of money and time.
      If the Chinese resell the US gas to Europe instead, it costs China ZERO dollars!!!
      WHY WOULD THEY SELL THE RUSSIAN GAS INSTEAD OF THE US GAS????? Why would they pay for something that has ABSOLUTELY no benefits.
      It doesn't make any sense.
      In fact, the gas that China was FORCED to buy from the US don't even need to go to China before being sent to Europe.
      The gas can go DIRECTLY from the US to Europe without touching any Chinese ports saving EVEN THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS!!!!!

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Western hypocrisy

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      America and Britain can attack Iraq without getting international sanctions🤮🤮. but Russia got economic sanctions. 🤔

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When Ukraine sent their troops to Iraq, they had no problem with invasions or not respecting other countries' sovereign territory.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations#:~:text=Approximately%205000%20Ukrainian%20soldiers%2C%20in,Iraq%20%282003%E2%80%932011%29

  • @ivanbrezina7632
    @ivanbrezina7632 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    You can print money, but you can not print electricity. Subsidizing price of electricity for some industries will increase the price for others.

    • @jirislavicek9954
      @jirislavicek9954 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      👍👍👍

    • @VodkaPandas
      @VodkaPandas ปีที่แล้ว +26

      EU Impose sanctions to Russia in effort to criple Russia's economy - Proceed to talk about how EU avoid recession from Russia energy blackmail.. 😂
      The question is which one is have a crumble economy?

    • @fern8580
      @fern8580 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ ivan, too bad, it's the return of the "ring kissers" of corruption to sign electricity supply contracts, with a "monopoly" company (EDF)

    • @vol.4691
      @vol.4691 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VodkaPandas The entire EU economically is still going strong. Russia on the other hand is hiding their bank details and other thing related to the Russian economy. Also, their equipment was not good to begin with, now they can barely scrape by.

    • @danielfessow
      @danielfessow ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@VodkaPandas Russians seems to haven't got any problems despite they can't buy new types of modern clothes in European boutique.

  • @Croz89
    @Croz89 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    One of the problems is a lot of heavy industry is not only energy hungry, but requires an extremely reliable source. An aluminium smelter can't just turn itself off for a few hours a day to save energy, it costs a lot of time and money to shut down and a lot of time and money to start back up again. That generally means coal, gas, hydro or nuclear are the only feasible options, not unless you install a massive battery that can cope with any variation in renewable output.

    • @JamesSmith-ix5jd
      @JamesSmith-ix5jd ปีที่แล้ว +49

      You can't smelt steel by solar energy, regardless of battery technology, it is economically not viable and never was.

    • @kzsposeidon3121
      @kzsposeidon3121 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This. We recently worked at a (small local) steel melting company. They pay 300.000€ a month in energy. Imagine the amount of energy that is with all the tax cuts etc they have.
      How is that supposed to be produced by solar or wind?

    • @johnsamuel1999
      @johnsamuel1999 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@JamesSmith-ix5jd there are electric smelter technologies. I believe that they are used for steel

    • @JamesSmith-ix5jd
      @JamesSmith-ix5jd ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@johnsamuel1999 Yes, but the electricity comes from gas/coal powered power plants, or maybe hydro, if something is electric it doesn't mean that it's clean energy that powers it.

    • @hobbypsychologist6444
      @hobbypsychologist6444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats why your mentioned industry wants to rely on hydrogen nocht batteries

  • @lockon7966
    @lockon7966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    So basically Europe stopped buying cheap Russian gas to buy more expensive US LNG AND Russian LNG via third parties like India and China, but this is somehow a win for Europe? This is a huge L any way you look at it. You're paying more for gas, you're STILL buying Russian gas and your industry is leaving the EU to China and the US....

    • @imperskiikulak446
      @imperskiikulak446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such people as the author of this video are accomplices in the crime of killing European industry.He simply retold Western propaganda about the fact that Russia refused to supply Gas to Europe, the reduction in gas supplies occurred due to the undermining of the northern streams, as well as after Poland stole Gazprom's assets on its territory, after which Gazprom refused to transport gas through Poland.There is also one surviving thread of the Nord Stream gas pipeline, but no one in Europe is in a hurry to negotiate with Gazprom, but I think now Russia will definitely not supply gas to Europe in In large numbers, Europe has shown its bestial grin, and Russia has found new trading partners in Asia.

  • @glennnielsen8054
    @glennnielsen8054 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    What worries me is that Europe invests in "panic" so that we get an suboptimal portfolio of energy technologies.

    • @isorokuyamamoto8423
      @isorokuyamamoto8423 ปีที่แล้ว

      think already happening.... the politicians are just sugar coating that alternative energy is working....

    • @BS-vm5bt
      @BS-vm5bt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not europe france has already 75% nuclear and 15% renewables their energy production is unaffected the same here in sweden. Its the germans with their stupid greens politics that is dragging the rest of europe down. They need to get their heads out of the sand and realize that shutting down nuclear power plants is a idiotic move.
      I think the french has one of the worlds best energy policy by using nuclear energy since they pay a lot less for their electricity and it does not release any co2. We swedes has the cheapest electricity in the world primary because of our hydro and nuclear mix. The only reason why our electricity prices has gone up is because of germany since they pay more for our electricity. This makes it so that our companies follows german rates rather then the swedish one.
      If we use around 4% of our electricity with natrual gas and oil the prices for those resources will not have a large effect on our energy prices. That primary thing that will have an effect on our energy prices is the price of uranium since that is 30% of our electricity generation. While germany got around 55% oil and gas usage for electricity. Not to mention that they still use gas heating instead of electric heating since they are extremely slow to adapt new technologies.
      I feel sad for competent german engineers and physicists who has to suffer the decisions of their idiotic politicians.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      America and Britain can attack Iraq without getting international sanctions🤮🤮. but Russia got economic sanctions. 🤔

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      When Ukraine sent their troops to Iraq, they had no problem with invasions or not respecting other countries' sovereign territory.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations#:~:text=Approximately%205000%20Ukrainian%20soldiers%2C%20in,Iraq%20%282003%E2%80%932011%29

    • @glennnielsen8054
      @glennnielsen8054 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carkawalakhatulistiwa In freedom I believe.

  • @Luke-zk3rf
    @Luke-zk3rf ปีที่แล้ว +198

    This just proves one of the easiest ways to improve productivity in an economy is to reduce energy costs, it benefits all businesses & consumers. Of course reducing costs is a generational challenge.
    But the UK needs to be working to reduce our energy unit cost, a combination of nuclear & renewables is the only true way forward

    • @danielfield2570
      @danielfield2570 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hopefully the first commercial fusion reactor (STEP) is a success, would definitely help some of our energy woes. Would also mean the uk had both the first commercial fissile and fusion power stations. The former being Calder hall, now sellafield

    • @ErikBramsen
      @ErikBramsen ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have nuclear, there's no need for renewables. Nuclear doesn't pollute.

    • @TheFalseShepphard
      @TheFalseShepphard ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@danielfield2570 The joke of a technology that is "Fusion" is still 20 years away from commercial viability just as it was in the 90s

    • @dnickaroo3574
      @dnickaroo3574 ปีที่แล้ว

      The US brilliantly destroyed NordStream Pipeline. Europeans say nothing, but either close its factories, or import the much more expensive US Gas. Europe loses, and the US wins.

    • @thequackashow619
      @thequackashow619 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The UK has the most renewable energy in Europe

  • @ABanRocks
    @ABanRocks ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Europe didn't really beat Russia if their economy is going down. Germany just went into recession.

    • @mile_381
      @mile_381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      russia has been in recession since 2021

    • @ABanRocks
      @ABanRocks ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Mile so it is a draw if anything. Russia economy isn't falling apart like the west expected.

  • @Jo_876
    @Jo_876 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Europe needs to find a 4th gen reactor design it agrees upon and build out a nuclear industry. That Germany it still trying to put up photovoltaic absolutely confuses me: Germany has terrible solar potential. The only viable zero-carbon sources for Europe (with Spain as an exception) are wind and nuclear. And given that nuclear needs so much water, they need to be building them to feed seawater instead of freshwater. That takes time to build and can be done economically at scale but they needed to start years ago.
    And that comes back to it's political system: the EU is ran by boomers who aren't able to change their minds and still believe the myth of the danger that nuclear poses. Meaning its still going to be headed down the path of really terrible energy policy choices and de-industrialization to follow.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@GabrielCazorlaPersson1 Not exacly true, you see, much of the regulation is basicly useless, since it rarely ends up changing the project, and just forces the companies to write thousands page long papers about the effects of every single thing, like even the effects of water vapour, of the freaking roads etc. Most of those are NOT for safety. Also thats not the only reason, so here is a list:
      1- NIMBY
      2- We basicly stopped building
      3- We close down reactors and some countries even stopped research on the industry
      4- The few countries that try to buil make singular projects, Instead of building multiple reactors at once to take advantage of economies of scale
      5- The recent attempts at building reactors were all Gen III reactors, wich we barely built
      Solving this problems for the most part is not hard. France just lowered regulation to what it was in the Mesmer plan (and rememver Gen III reactors are far safer then those built during Mesmer plan) to build new reactors. And no meltdown ever happened in France, and in most countries using nuclear. Nuclear meltdowns are easely avoidable
      Poiting to renewables as better option over nuclear is like pointing to self driving cars as solution to traffic because HSR is to costy and dangerous

    • @ten_tego_teges
      @ten_tego_teges ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pure ideology, thank Greenpeace and their friends for delaying de-carbonization for a good 3 decades.
      PS Oh, and Jane Fonda. She's been at the forefront of all those lefty movements since the 1960's, including anti-nuclear histeria.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GabrielCazorlaPersson1 But one would ask why did France build tens of them in ten years, and now can't build one. Things like NIMBY, overregulation (in many cases not because of security), blocking it from some industrial uses, building reactors in single projects instead of building multiple at once, closing reactors, limiting research and more
      Nuclear can be fast cheap and safe, we just need to do it correctly. Imagine not building more HSR because HSR in California is late and over budget. We need to get our sh1t together and invest correctly into it
      Also it did manage to reduce fossil fuel use much faster then renewables are today doing so

    • @louisxiv736
      @louisxiv736 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​​@@GabrielCazorlaPersson1e fuck you bring Fukushima in there? Do you know that it was hit by a super wave before it started melting down? Or you are just playing dumb?

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GabrielCazorlaPersson1 So we shouldn't take trains anymore after the spectacular train wreck which just killed almost 300 people in Balasore, India? Or maybe we should continue, since mile for mile, train travel might still be much safer than traveling by automobile?

  • @OddRagnarDengLerstl
    @OddRagnarDengLerstl ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Who would dare to invest in Europe now? Energy is not solved. Infrastructure is not being protected, e.g. Nordstream. Foreign properties are frozen. Trust is lost.

    • @91Kred
      @91Kred หลายเดือนก่อน

      if only Europe made an effort to be energy self-sufficient by investing and building 4th generation nuclear reactors. Use fossil fuels when necessary (incl coal) until it is proven that wind-solar can work effectively. Force communities to accept fraking for oil and gas but work towards carbon-free solutions like hydrogen and nuclear

  • @querch1066
    @querch1066 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I think the EU should focus on setting ups its new energy system first and foremost before it tries to re-industrialise. If that means procuring solar panels, inverters and wind turbines from outside then so be it.
    Any subsidies to industries, in the meantime, should focus on maintaining existing assets because if they close down and fall into disrepair, restoring production capacity will end up even more expensive.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Defenitly reform the energy market

    • @dnickaroo3574
      @dnickaroo3574 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Klaus is happy with Europe.

    • @marczhu7473
      @marczhu7473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No energy no way to transform goods.

    • @Matruchus
      @Matruchus ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Sadly the change to renewables makes energy too expensive for industry. Longterm industry will move to Asia, Africa or South America where there is cheap energy and cheap labour. The only thing Europe had going for itself was cheap Russian energy. Now we have nothing and production is too expensive. Majority of the world is still running on fossil fuels.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Matruchus Thats not exacly true. What made energy expensive was the eletricity market, not renewables. And russian gas did not help a lot with that. Gas and energy are not cheap in Europe for more then 20 years now

  • @skyrask1948
    @skyrask1948 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Biggest issue with heavy industry is not how much energy as whole costs but type of energy it uses. Most of the energy used in heavy industry is thermal because it is cheapest, most plentiful and easiest to regulate energy around. When it comes to switching to renewable energy it needs to be remembered that one kw/h of thermal energy is 3 times cheaper than one kw/h of electricity. This is because to produce one kw/h of electricity you need 3 kw/h of thermal energy to heat up the steam to propel turbines to turn generators. This is the reason steel, concrete, plastic and other materials that require primarily thermal energy in production dominate material output of heavy industries.

  • @joaquimbarbosa896
    @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    For Europe to stay competitive it needs to lower burocracy and decrease energy prices, those 2 things are crucial. Lowering energy prices could be done by using more energy efficient sources, using less gas, increase storage, and increasing baseload, mainly nuclear. Then it needs to really think outside of looking good. Because every single plans like the chips act or Net 0 industry act, besides from inferior versions of US subsidy plans, they also waste a lot. For exemple, many useless investment into hydrogen (like hydrogen pipelines and transportion network), subsidizing chips but having no clear intention on wich chips to subsidize, not creating demand for the high end chips they want, subsidizing solar pannels while still importing wafers and other components from China, same for batteries. We need to get our sh1t together, and start thinking about the whole suply chain, from consumption, to materials, not just the product

    • @user-gk2vw6cz6d
      @user-gk2vw6cz6d ปีที่แล้ว +12

      -Lower burocracy, haha never gonna happen.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@user-gk2vw6cz6d In some cases its happening, France lowered regulation for new nuclear power plants, Portugal completly removed enviromental regulation for solar or wind projects below 100MW, and the Net zero industry act is less bureucratic then previous subsidy attempts for green manufacturing. Its just a really bad starting point and really slow progress

    • @multienergico9299
      @multienergico9299 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wouldn't refer to hydrogen investments as useless. Many heavy industries see hydrogen as the easiest way to decarbonising their processes. It will also be a good solution to deal with excess electricity due to the rise of renewables. We need to see that there isn't a single answer but multiple solutions which combined will bring a solution to descarbonise

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@multienergico9299 Maybe it wasn't clear, but I also don't consider hydrogen useless. I said useless hydrogen investment, because I'm specificly talking about the hydrogen investment that is useless. But I was not refering to ALL hydrogen investment ofc, there are great uses. But their targets are impossible, having 1 hydrogen charging station every 100km on the road is stupid, and creating pipelines for hydrogen is also stupid, just not as stupid as transporting it overseas wich is also part of the plan. This costs a lot, you need 3.5 ships to carry the exact same ammount of NatGas that you would on a normal ship, and this is excluding the costs and energy lost of liquifying hydrogen and then using it again (much less efficient and multiple times more expensive then gas). For pipeline, a litle less worse, but you still need a much higher initial cost, to use the same volume, wich carries LESS hydrogen, while having higher maintenence and leaks.
      Therefor, transporting hydrogen, and every investment associated with is is useless.
      Since we want green hydrogen, wich is produced from eletricity, a much better option is to use all that money into increasing transmission lines, and produce hydrogen locally for indutry purposes, wich is multiple times cheaper and more efficient

    • @multienergico9299
      @multienergico9299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joaquimbarbosa896 But this industries need the hydrogen, pipeline might be the only solution, especially as you go inland.
      Road charging I can agree that it might be too early for that.

  • @jcliu
    @jcliu ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The greatest geopolitical revolution in the 21st century was the rise of fracked shale oil/gas in the United States, which for the first time in 50 years made the world’s largest economy not just self-sufficient in energy but the world’s largest exporter. (The 70s-imposed export ban on U.S. oil/gas wasn’t even lifted till mid-2010s!) This one fact underlines all the reversals of American foreign policy: Under Obama, pivoting away from the Middle East became obvious, b/c all those Arab petrostates went from embarrassing but invaluable protectorates to direct competitors! Under Trump and Biden, shale made old-fashioned isolationism and protectionism a live option again.
    Smarter EU leaders saw the competitive risk of America regaining the resource trump card over the rest of the rich world. But, whereas e.g. Japan always protected itself via diversity of supply (because it’s always been an island devoid of fuel sources), the Merkel/Macron pretense of “Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok” was all about “domesticating” Russia’s Siberian gas as an input as reliable and freely available to VW and BASF as Texas fracked gas is to GM and Dow.
    They banked on Putin being a corrupt gangster capitalist hedonist above all else-the rentier boss of rentier bosses. The disaster was finding out he’s actually…an idealist? And so Europe is back to where it was in the 1956 Suez Crisis: Stuck on a small, very crowded, very resource-poor peninsula; shorn of the colonies (formal and informal) that used to compensate for natural deficits at home; and totally at the mercy of America’s ability to shut off the taps, whether of LNG or finance flows.
    China, facing similar constraints around traditional fossil fuels, had the foresight to become a dominant first-mover in renewable energy using state-led industrial policy. The EU-more in thrall to the “Washington Consensus” of free trade and marketization than the U.S. ever was-thought they could get there via regulations and carbon pricing.
    Best example of where sclerosis tempered by virtue-signaling gets you: DieselGate. At the same time Tesla was ramping up and China was consolidating the battery supply chain, Deutschland AG’s solution to lower emissions was systematically destroying Europe’s urban air quality with “clean diesel”-a decade-long, continent-wide epidemic of magical thinking (and criminal conspiracy) that fell apart entirely within years of VW trying to break into the US market.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd argue China doesn't have the same constraints on fossil fuels Europe does. It lacks oil and gas, but not coal, and is also much less heavily burdened with environmental regulation. Europe has some coal, but it's very unpopular to use and it's generally more expensive to extract, most countries have gone through their cheaper deposits during the last 300 years.
      China has arguably been building out every kind of power station it can use, new coal power stations, massive hydroelectric dams that are the biggest in the world, lots of nuclear reactors including experiments using thorium which is far more abundant in China than uranium, and of course seas of solar panels and wind turbines.
      Europe is highly resistant to new coal as mentioned previously, it's pretty much run out of new locations for hydro, nuclear is struggling with cost overruns and an ideological split between nations over its use, and dense populations coupled with strong individual rights make renewables on the scale of China very difficult to construct. Gas was usually the path of least resistance, even if it meant more economic dependency on Russia.

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Europe has the same gas shale formations that North America has. They just banned hydraulic fracturing of them. So they have chosen their fate as a declining power.

  • @quantummotion
    @quantummotion ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The EU is screwed longer term. First, all of the EU economies are in budget deficit, so all the carbon taxes used for EV incentives will STAY regardless of transition because the governments will need the money...they will simply be another form of taxes. The extra subsidies for LNG means no money for future bailouts for Southern Europe. The constant push towards renewable, refusal to go nuclear, and expensive LNG means energy security will ALWAYS be a hot issue as renewables will not cover the gap. For years, many in the EU criticized the US for not taking the climate seriously. Now that that the US is going full steam with renewables, it suddenly is a problem, and Germany is burning more coal than ever before. The EU simply needs to stop playing games with its markets. Renewable energy makes no sense for Northern Europe, it should go nuclear. The EU cannot compete with the US in spending money for an all EV transition, so it should go the way of hybrid cars to stay in the game of battery production but not be caught in a lithium/cobalt crunch and get rid of the EV subsidies. Also get rid of the carbon tax. Focus on making electricity CHEAP. If you make electricity CHEAP, people will switch to it. Its not enough just to make gas more expensive. Finally, people need to realize that you will NEVER get rid of oil and gas, because you need those to make all the plastics and petrochemicals. The environmental policies that the EU has taken on will kill off the industrial capacity of the EU, as fuel and material inputs will be expensive, alternatives will as expensive if not more, and businesses will find it easier to do business somewhere else as BASF is learning right now.

    • @1969fata
      @1969fata 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very true.

  • @fern8580
    @fern8580 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I had in France, a gate with automatic closing by remote control, it broke down in 2023, as I am in "a technical desert"
    I returned to the gate with manual closing like my grandfather...

  • @milekragulj325
    @milekragulj325 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No more cheap energy. No industry.

  • @moritzmuller390
    @moritzmuller390 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Russia did never blackmail europe with gas and oil, they never stopped their supply of emergy tp europe (not even during the cold war) bit the eu banned the import (or made it more diffocult)

    • @andy_nvrmnd
      @andy_nvrmnd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm from that country you mentioned. As I assume from my side - that result of blackmailing was a sort of dynamic equilibrium where at the background the russian interests silently penetrated into crutial links in chains of european economy, producing corruption and political blindness, distorting of information, diaspora and so on. This is CLASSICAL russian communists STYLE towards the many countries since 1920. And I choose to believe Thanks to Ukraine this process has stopped

    • @astriddececco3005
      @astriddececco3005 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andy_nvrmndI doubt you are Russian

  • @nbgoodiscore1303
    @nbgoodiscore1303 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I believe there are a few gaps in your explanation. It was good overall, but what you didn't touch was the effects of producing 40% of it's solar panels on energy demand, coupled with the temporary use of coal in Europe. Mind you, the sun shines in the south of Europe during most of the year, and that is being used to their advantage. The EU has an international electricity grid that also connects renewable energy sources between different countries in the union. There is also a boost in recycling solar panels to decrease dependence on imports for it's manufacturing.

    • @ThePlayer920
      @ThePlayer920 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The solar panel grift already proved itself as a massive joke in Spain and it's one of the main reasons why that country has one of the highest electric prices in the world

    • @NS_Miata
      @NS_Miata ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@ThePlayer920to be honest, altough your point could be true for the current moment (possibly because fluxitial energy), the solar power will become more visible with better batteries or hydrogen gas.

    • @ThePlayer920
      @ThePlayer920 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@NS_Miata Just great, I'm talking facts and you're talking theory. "better batteries" is a huge understatement, you would need massively high capacity batteries and merely developing them would be a monumental undertaking, otherwise the grid would just turn off at night. Even if we knew how to build such batteries, they would still be in very short supply since their production would require immense amounts of rare materials that we don't have access to. More importantly, you're overlooking the fact how power is lost in transmission. You can't build power plants of any kind several hundreds or thousands of kilometers away and still manage to supply your industrial zones with enough energy. You need to build power plants where the energy is most needed and used, there's no way of going around that. In simpler terms, a solar farm in Spain couldn't possibly power the factories in Berlin.
      Mind you, solar energy is neither good for the environment nor self-sufficient to begin with. It's just that all the cancer victims their pollution generate are the little third world kids working at the mines and factories that produce them and all the people that rummage the landfills that the panels end up in. Oh, and everybody that drinks the groundwater contaminated by said landfills, but that's way into the future, so nobody cares. And that's without even factoring in the massive pollution their batteries would cause. If you think car batteries are an environmental hazard, you haven't seen anything yet

    • @jerrymiller9039
      @jerrymiller9039 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only Western democracies decarbonize then your economies will collapse and you will have no money for any of the things you are talking about which means at a global level no climate gains

    • @deaththekid3998
      @deaththekid3998 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePlayer920 that’s bullshit. A simple google search shows that energy prices in Spain are 40% cheaper than in the Uk. You conspiracist trolls should really up your game.

  • @tinihawk
    @tinihawk ปีที่แล้ว +16

    5:31 Doubled ? Looks like a 20% increase if you actually read the graph you presented

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The (blurry) text above the graph explains it. The *value* of aluminium imports from China has nearly doubled while the *tonnage* has increased by 20% (meaning most of the rise in value is due to price increase rather than trade volume increase). The graph shows the tonnage.

  • @riton349
    @riton349 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So we survived the 2022 WINTER just by LUCK?! DAMN...

  • @javiervll8077
    @javiervll8077 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I think that the four main economies of the European Union 🇪🇺 (Germany 🇩🇪, France 🇫🇷, Italy 🇮🇹 and Spain 🇪🇸) should take advantage of their strengths and unite more, including in the technological and military field (France has nuclear weapons and is a permanent member of the UN Security Council 🇺🇳). If they don't, it will be very difficult for Europe to compete with countries like the United States 🇺🇸, China 🇨🇳, India 🇮🇳, Russia 🇷🇺, United Kingdom 🇬🇧, Japan 🇯🇵 or Brazil 🇧🇷

    • @al-Mamluk-1250
      @al-Mamluk-1250 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      UK is nothing compared to the EU and the others you listed other than maybe Japan. The scales are completely different. California in the US alone has bigger economy than the UK. And India, China, Brazil, its not even fair to compare the UK to them either lol.

    • @HB-zl1di
      @HB-zl1di ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@al-Mamluk-1250 for now the UK and Indian economies arnt too far off from each other

    • @Myanmartiger921
      @Myanmartiger921 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@HB-zl1disure but germany was larger than china less than 20 years ago. China grew really fast but europe did not grow at all after 2008 for 10 12 years. Even in worst case scenario india economy will be atleast 3 times uk in 20 years. Considering uk economy dire condition

    • @ChristiaanHW
      @ChristiaanHW ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Myanmartiger921 the reason why China and India are growing so fast is the amount of people in those countries.
      together they have about 6 times the amount of the EU.
      and they had a lot to catch up to over the last decades (and still do)

    • @Dani-Nani
      @Dani-Nani ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The problem is none is willing to cooperate.
      Spain and Portugal proposed a new pipe that could both transport gas from Algeria to Italy and Germany though France; and later on transport Hydrogen if it ever becomes mainstream.
      France shutdown the idea completly even with Germany backing up Spain and Portugal
      Spain and Portugal are almost like an island in EU, next to zero grid interconnections despite the EU mandating it (again France refuses to), no High Speed Rail connections (wont repeat myself)
      Spain and Portugal could be made into hubs from goods comign from america or africa on its way to mainland Europe, but France most of them time shutdow thos projects and they don't want to lose the actual power and control they have over their eastern neighbors

  • @BstuMtz
    @BstuMtz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny thing, recently was published video on TH-cam about that factories in USA are closing with incredible speed. And screen pucture of this video shows that factories from EU are moving to USA.

    • @12time12
      @12time12 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some factories are closing in the US, but others are re-opening. Those closing tend to be old style goods like leather works and places that use lumber which can no longer be harvested.

    • @BstuMtz
      @BstuMtz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12time12 I know. I am not saying that he is wrong, or anybody wrong. The funny thing was that there were published, almost simultaneously, two videos in one of them were discussed how fast factories are closing in USA and in other one how factories are moving yo USA. I know that in all countries every day some factories are being closed and some being opened.

  • @MrLightweb
    @MrLightweb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great topic coverage.
    Good job

  • @adamandsteve13
    @adamandsteve13 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I hope to see Europe strong and competetive.

    • @VodkaPandas
      @VodkaPandas ปีที่แล้ว +6

      EU Impose sanctions to Russia in effort to criple Russia's economy - Proceed to talk about how EU avoid recession from Russia energy blackmail.. 😂
      The question is which one is have a crumble economy?

    • @Mpl3564
      @Mpl3564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@VodkaPandasussia, of course. It's people is even more miserable than before the beginning of this stupid war, provoked by its stupid, authocraric government. A government that is beginning to crumble, which may be devastaring for the stupid internet troll-slaves that work for them in the social networks...

  • @midnighttigger7198
    @midnighttigger7198 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A quite substantial factory in my town moved out of my town years ago, another factory was proposed so loads of investment went in from the county but they pulled out last minute, the infrastructure was built but not the factories. I live in the uk so other factors probably took effect.

    • @mytiliss682
      @mytiliss682 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's likely to do with labour cost

  • @HAGARCIA
    @HAGARCIA ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good! No industries! No polluition! Isn't it, Greta?

  • @SqFtGardenGranny
    @SqFtGardenGranny ปีที่แล้ว

    I, too, am here because of the shoutout for this video from Economics Explained. Great video - very informative!

  • @zionarra853
    @zionarra853 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can Europe stay competitive? Certain industries like luxury goods and tourism? Almost assuredly yes. Heavy industry and consumer goods? Likely not. Cheap Russian natural gas was a key driver in the German economy. The LNG that's replacing it is from marginal suppliers that costs much more. Moreover increasing US protectionism (e.g. Inflation Reduction Act) means that European products will struggle to be competitive in the largest consumer market (it's funny how everyone thought US would go back to free trade after Trump, but Biden's been doubling and tripling down on practically every Trump era policy). Combined with Europe's demographic decline - Europe has likely peaked economically and it's all downhill from here. But don't take my word, I'm just another idiot on the internet.

  • @philipmccready7090
    @philipmccready7090 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The EU will lag to a degree but may be able to compensate by growing services. The UK without an industrial policy, a competitive energy policy, or an trade policy (equivalent to the US and the EU), is not going to be a viable location to produce energy intensive or cost and supply chain sensitive products. As a standalone country outside of the major power blocs of China, the USA, and the EU, it’s hard to see how the UK can compete. Mr. Farage and friends, including Russian oligarchs, got people to wreck the competitive advantage that Margaret Thatcher helped to create in the 1980s and 90s. It’s sad to see the lack of a shared vision about modern Britain.

    • @12time12
      @12time12 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brexit was indeed an unmitigated disaster. Much like here in the US with tax rates to debt/wage growth, silent generation and boomers, who have largely lived the extent of their lives, totally screwed over Millennials/Gen Z in the UK. Pretty outrageous, dropped an economic bomb on them before leaving this world.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Low wages don’t benefit the people

  • @Ant3_14
    @Ant3_14 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I won't give a like due to clickbait tittle, "Consequencess of energy war" is much more accurate

    • @joaovitormatos8147
      @joaovitormatos8147 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Ok, fine, "energy special military operation"

    • @barmybarmecide5390
      @barmybarmecide5390 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@joaovitormatos8147special economic operation

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember guys, it all started with sanctioning of Huawei.

    • @goread5544
      @goread5544 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Leaving a comment benefits the content creator as well 😂

    • @Ant3_14
      @Ant3_14 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@goread5544 Still I value this channel, just wanted to point out one thing

  • @sireyoursistermodernworld4244
    @sireyoursistermodernworld4244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found your video via a shoutout by Economics Explained - a larger channel that noted this video was complementary to what theirs but touching on slightly different topics.

  • @klauszinser
    @klauszinser 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's the 2nd Video I see on this channel. A very good and detailed analysis.

  • @swanneeji
    @swanneeji ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Russia never used energy supply as a weapon. It did not cut off the gas. The EU cut its import of Russian gas and then the pipelines we’re blown up.

    • @12time12
      @12time12 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did cut off gas by claiming the turbine wasn’t functional when Siemens called BS on them. Or do you consider flows close to zero as not cutting off the gas?

    • @oldcat1790
      @oldcat1790 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12time12 surely Siemens has nothing to do with the new cold war as a totally neutral party, so of course we must trust their every word

    • @1969fata
      @1969fata 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Siemens refused to give back the parts. (Ordered by the German gov? Or, rather, the US establishment, disguised as Canada. LOL.)@@12time12

  • @thomasdevine867
    @thomasdevine867 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an American, I would have more respect for the Europeans if they developed their own shale fields. Instead, they burn lignite (brown coal), the worst polluting energy source around.

    • @divya9951
      @divya9951 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shale field mean

  • @allanjoseph3164
    @allanjoseph3164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel is underrated.

  • @RichPober
    @RichPober ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent reporting.

  • @lukedornon7799
    @lukedornon7799 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I seem to remember somebody telling the Europeans a few years BEFORE this war that they were too dependent on Russian energy and the response was laughter....

    • @evennot
      @evennot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He had all sorts of bizarre ideas, such as actually paying agreed share into NATO's budget, etc. Clearly he was a lunatic, unlike the majority of _adult_ politicians

    • @1969fata
      @1969fata 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Ant the answer should have been laughter since then and it should be now, and then the EU would not be in this deep shit. But indeed, they act stupidly.

  • @dariusalexandru9536
    @dariusalexandru9536 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    WOW ,I ve seen my fair share of bias recently videos but this one for sure takes the cake .

    • @lucaj8131
      @lucaj8131 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Can you elaborate?

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have you got something useful to say or are you just trolling?

    • @ThePlayer920
      @ThePlayer920 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't bother explaining yourself to these lobotomites. The price of electricity could go up fivefold and they'd still continue to support the same politicians

    • @mile_381
      @mile_381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤡

  • @willyheinry1008
    @willyheinry1008 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tes vidéos sont déprimantes en ce moment, mais merci quand même pour ton travail +++

  • @Tommyleini
    @Tommyleini ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, very good video. Your wall in the back looks kind of empty, you could have a beautiful picture up there maybe :)

  • @bizzfo
    @bizzfo ปีที่แล้ว +11

    they managed by having a warmer than usual winter

  • @apc9714
    @apc9714 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Subsidies can be good in the short term, but we obviously need massive investments (renewables, nuclear...) to bring the price of energy down

    • @ArwedMett
      @ArwedMett ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree, actually I think the subsidies have a negative effect. They usually shift investments from R&D to production which then breaks once the subside runs out.

    • @VodkaPandas
      @VodkaPandas ปีที่แล้ว

      EU Impose sanctions to Russia in effort to criple Russia's economy - Proceed to talk about how EU avoid recession from Russia energy blackmail.. 😂
      The question is which one is have a crumble economy?

  • @springbreak3900
    @springbreak3900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although I have already seen the video, I watched it again after the mention in the video by "EconomicsExplained".

  • @iechuanlee9326
    @iechuanlee9326 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The EU shoots themselves on both feet by sanctioning Russia and allies to the US. Result increase in fuel price from US & no fuel from Russia. This is making the EU firm not competitive & the consequences are moved abroad.

  • @Omer1996E.C
    @Omer1996E.C ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's funny how the EU is trying to solve over-regulation problems with more regulations and government incentives

    • @demongo0
      @demongo0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They didn't notice how they became something similar to USSR, shifting to a lot of government regulation and even ideologically driven war where the whole EU acts like a single political entity on the crusade of "stopping the imperialism of Russia".

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@demongo0 The key to Communism in nthe USSR was central planning.
      The Eu seems to have the same ambitions.

  • @mreese8764
    @mreese8764 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doubling down on the past! Way to go, Europe!

  • @Lamalas
    @Lamalas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    µat 5:31, you say imports nearly doubled but an in fact, if you look closely at the graph, you will noticed that the Y-axis does not start at 0. It's more of a (61/49)-1)*100=25% inrease. A far cry from the 100% (doubling) as you said.

    • @IntoEurope
      @IntoEurope  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed that is a mistake on my part, apologies for it.
      Cheers,
      Hugo

  • @ZARuslan
    @ZARuslan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gas from elsewhere is still from Russia :D

  • @adwaitbhoomkar3304
    @adwaitbhoomkar3304 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who else is here after a shoutout for this video from Economics Explained?

  • @paradoqs8594
    @paradoqs8594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loosing car industry, no construction, no IT. Where is GDP? Restaurants and intalled solar panals just not to become ice cubes in winter? Is this Europes greatest fight? To think how to sanctionize itself, or how not to do it, or what else?

  • @ioan_jivan
    @ioan_jivan ปีที่แล้ว

    How hard is it to find all the data?

  • @havencat9337
    @havencat9337 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    America 1 - EU 0

  • @rafaelcosta3238
    @rafaelcosta3238 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Factories in Europe are doomed, and have been for more than a decade.
    I used to work in a heavy industry plant. Because the factory was in Europe the company had to pay a lot in taxes, social security, environmental requirements, etc.
    Imported Chinese goods would travel half the world and be sold cheaper next door because they paid none of that.
    If Europeans are not willing to scale down the welfare state to reduce taxes, and are not willing to put taxes on imports to make them the same price as European produced goods (and consequently pay more for everything they buy) then they want their factories to close.

  • @oliverd.shields2708
    @oliverd.shields2708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think of Macron's industrial policy proposition for Europe?

  • @dohminkonoha3200
    @dohminkonoha3200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Semi-conductor is basic of modern economy.
    And it requires extremely reliable stable energy resource, even a second power instability can fame entire production line.

  • @buddermonger2000
    @buddermonger2000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At this rate it looks like Europe is facing so many Challenges from abroad that it almost seems like it's on a pathway to a state run model once again which it's already partway in to. With declining economic competitiveness, it's running into solutions it can't just manage its way out of. The next decade is going to be hard for Europe and i think going to be a point of serious self-reflection as the golden age ends.

  • @mpriymak
    @mpriymak ปีที่แล้ว +18

    We are living in the age of Asia, and access to cheaper Russian energy by China and India will only accelerate the fading into irrelevance of Europe.

    • @theamici
      @theamici ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The ability of Russia to export to either China or India is severely limited by lack of infrastructure, and while this infrastructure may be built some day, the world, meanwhile, will have moved on. The green energy (+ nuclear) transition is happening everywhere, and is only accelerating.

    • @mpriymak
      @mpriymak ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@theamici people say that.... and yet the numbers tell a different story. Oil imports into China and India have skyrocketed, and the West is powerless to do anything about it...

    • @airrodgers7277
      @airrodgers7277 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theamici China is the world leading intrastrurcture nation, building those pipelines means more GDP for both Russia and China...

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mpriymak Oil imports into China/India have "skyrocketed" in relative terms. In reality they haven't even reached a fraction of oil exports to Europe prior to this war.
      Total Russian gas/oil exports have dropped massively. And you guys are coping to the high heavens on how that's actually a good thing.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@airrodgers7277 That still takes years, genius. The point is that Russia nor China can do that within a timely fashion, let alone to make up for the loss of Western money anytime soon.

  • @thebrutaltooth1506
    @thebrutaltooth1506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don`t get that stacked chart at 4:53. Is the Y axis in terrawatt hour?

  • @emagoutard2576
    @emagoutard2576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bah ça j’ai bien compris justement, c’est pour ça que je ne voulais pas qu’il s’abonne la qualité et que je travaillerai même sans pause, mais il s’apporteront pas ma qualité motif mobile pour délocaliser

  • @DellDuckfan313
    @DellDuckfan313 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    What's becoming clear to me is that Europe is automatically one step behind China and the US when it comes to economic autonomy. Europe lacks the abundant resources those countries have: energy sources like oil or shale for the US, raw materials like rare Earth metals for China, an agricultural breadbasket that isn't currently an active warzone. Historically, Europe has gone overseas in order to secure its needs. While China and the US have historically gone through periods of relative isolationism, for Europe this isn't really an option. Autonomy might be desirable for political reasons, but it may end up hurting Europe's pocket book in the long run, as was shown in this video. This is a difficult trade-off, and different choices will have to be made depending on the circumstances.
    I don't think Europe should try to match America's race to nationalize industry, because it would undo all of the international ties that come with globalization, without there being an obvious economic benefit. Sure, some industry can be brought back to Europe with no problem, but as the Russian example shows, there will always be fields in which Europe is simply more dependent because of its relative lack of resources. Periods of deglobalization also historically come with more inter-state conflict, and it's important that we don't recreate the conditions for a World War 1.
    A note of optimism: Russia is a thorn in Europe's side, but with the possible exception of China and Turkey, it is probably the BIGGEST possible thorn in Europe's side. The Russian energy crisis has exposed a unique set of challenges to the European system that few other states could match. So barring those exceptions, this economic war is probably as bad as one can get.

    • @catlover12045
      @catlover12045 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah I agree with you. The only way Europe can be independent economically, is by trading with as many nations as possible and not relaying on on country for something.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All things considered, autonomy is needed in order to be more aggressive when securing our international interests.
      Decoupling from the global market doesn’t mean that we would isolate but rather that we seize letting absolutely critical production be established in places that are potentially hostile to us and consequently look for ways to ensure that our interests can be met at the bottom line locally but it ALSO means using the new military we are building right now.
      People don’t like to talk about our armies as a tool that can further our interests for a number of reasons but I disagree because ultimately, the era we all live in wasn’t just made possible with diplomacy but also with war.
      Being able to pressure certain regimes into considering the consequences of going against us with our own capabilities is a tool we lack as a collective.
      Furthermore, imo. autonomy doesn’t mean to break our alliance with the USA ( since they are a powerful and ( at least spiritually) democratic state ) but rather to be able to act independently in certain theaters. The Middle East and Northern Africa are too obvious examples where we have time and time again been met with the reality of over relying on the USA - the civil wars in Syria or Lybia COULD have been opportunities to re-establish ourselves as a major stabilising force, instead we were overly cautious and let our enemies seize the day / let hints get utterly out of hand.
      The ability for a far more aggressive foreign policy is one of the most underdeveloped fields and would arguably solve many of our problems because even just having reasonable capacities and being able to demonstrate them in some of the conflicts of future decades will enable us to, for example, secure far more decisive positions concerning our trade routes - which are essential because while we can certainly procure a lot of goods, it not only wouldn’t be wise to let states like India loose interest in us but far more pressingly,
      we ultimately need to secure the energy and recourses that will be the backbone of AI&robotics ASAP(!) aka the modern steam engines ( meaning a technology so revolutionary and effective that whoever masters them and also broader associated policy will experience very good times in the foreseeable future at least in a strictly geopolitical economic / militaristic sense, if not even in terms of social tensions ).

    • @Qnexus7
      @Qnexus7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Arcaryon thats all fine and dandy, main problem is we struggle to integrate further in order to play at that level. But maybe such crises is exactly what we need to be able to proceed in that direction.
      Just the army alone could benefit us so damn much. It would cost less, be bigger and stonger, the standardization would shape the economy around it all over the continent.
      Damn.

    • @DellDuckfan313
      @DellDuckfan313 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Arcaryon I agree that strategic autonomy doesn't mean abandoning our ties with the United States, and I also agree that a more aggressive foreign policy is preferable. I have long believed that Europe should be proactive in fostering stability and growth in Africa and the Middle East for the safety and development of its border states, and making allies around the Indian Ocean should China ever decide that they don't want to be friends anymore. In fact, I had written an earlier paragraph about the importance of supporting the United States when it comes to rule-based institutions, but not automatically picking sides if the USA-China rivalry gets nasty. Let them come to Europe instead.
      The one thing where Europe has a leg up on the United States is in the maintenance of a healthy society. This attracts immigrants from both skilled and unskilled backgrounds, which we'll need if we want to keep up in technology.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Qnexus7 Exactly my line of thinking. The current crisis is partially a blessing in disguise because it’s not fatal but hurts enough to force the long overdue changes.

  • @Wifyish
    @Wifyish ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Germany is already in a recession thought.

  • @Daniel-or3vf
    @Daniel-or3vf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The UK was exporting gas to the EU throughout 2022 as well.

  • @jorgeocampo650
    @jorgeocampo650 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video.

  • @PerErikKarlsson
    @PerErikKarlsson ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Think we are missing some nuance here, the gas storage graf show in the video reveals that last year we went from history low storage levels to historic high in a very constrained environment, pushing prices way up. Now with storage levels at historic highs prices has come way down, lower then the start of the Russian invasion and closer to historic means. Not bring up current gas prices is a big oversite for the video.

    • @inikans123
      @inikans123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because there’s no demand yet. With limited supply, next winter it’s either further deindustrialization or paying a huge premium, again.

  • @nicholasweatherbee4634
    @nicholasweatherbee4634 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Europe probably lost in the medium term, but I'd argue that they've won in the long term. I think it's fair to argue that many countries are going to be losers in the next couple of years (not just Europe). Europe might be feeling this economic pain first and probably feeling it the worst... but sometimes that kick in the butt is what you need to move forward. Europe appears to be a lot more focused and as an outsider looking in (Canada), I have high expectations for Europe!

    • @Myanmartiger921
      @Myanmartiger921 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Europe has been winning constantly in long term however those numbers seem to be imaginary and dont show up in stock market gdp gdp per capita aircraft carriers tech giants etc

    • @defintity_9951
      @defintity_9951 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Myanmartiger921 In what way?

    • @ChristiaanHW
      @ChristiaanHW ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Myanmartiger921 ah yes, because when you have a dozen aircraft carriers and several tech giants, live for the common people is so much better.
      luckily there are no hobo's or people with debt the huge amount of debt in the USA.
      i rather have a good social safety net and a fair country for all then those useless stuff.

    • @defintity_9951
      @defintity_9951 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@ChristiaanHW How will you sustain those perks without a competitive economy.

    • @ChristiaanHW
      @ChristiaanHW ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@defintity_9951 having enough money to keep your citizens healthy and safe is not the same as being number 1 in this or that category.
      if the EU would become (almost) self sufficient.
      making as much as possible that they need.
      like medicines, tech, energy etc.
      and maybe even more than they need to trade/export and use the profit to import the few things they can't produce themselves.
      they wouldn't need to have dozens of Apple or Google like companies or a navy able to invade whatever country the want to to extract the resources they lack.

  • @johanneslundvoll2555
    @johanneslundvoll2555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely forgot Norway in this episode. Both on gas production but also green energy and industries…

  • @blazer9547
    @blazer9547 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video full of nuances👍👍

  • @JohnZoetebier
    @JohnZoetebier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In 2008 the EU economy was 10% bigger than the US. At that time the EU was the biggest economy in the world. In 2022 the EU economy was 50% smaller than the US. In 2021 the economy of China was bigger than the entire EU. Many countries in the EU now have symptoms of a third world country with ever increasing number of poor people in line for foodbanks. The EU has been an absolute disaster. Anti-EU sentiment is growing with AfD in Germany now demanding EU to be dissolved. Eastern EU members will leave the Eu by 2030 when they are supposed to contribute to the EU. Next there will be a split between north and south European countries. The EU is doomed that's for sure.

  • @mynext30years41
    @mynext30years41 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why is nobody saying that Europe should think for itself and stop following the US lead into a dump.

    • @astriddececco3005
      @astriddececco3005 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      European leadership has been on a downward decline. Since WW2 the US has never left Germany or Europe sure the USSR was the excuse but after the fall of the USSR why does the US still have army bases open in Europe?

    • @Domino321l
      @Domino321l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@astriddececco3005simply. WW1 WW2.

  • @joshuagenes
    @joshuagenes ปีที่แล้ว

    Green tech which is intermittent can be used to make fuel from seawater. Fuel from seawater is twice the price of mined fuel in the USA so at the moment it is only being considered for Nuclear Aircraft carriers in order to make jet fuel. As a security issue it might be wise to invest in the tech for Europe in order to alleviate dependencies.

  • @jbvalentin854
    @jbvalentin854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s almost like there is a domain where Europe is neglecting to get cheap energy price with strong energy density (so little absolute amount of import and easy stockpile) and stable electricity… I wonder what it is called it’s starts with an N…

    • @_o..o_1871
      @_o..o_1871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nuclear energy has tons of challenges and it’s hard to implement.

    • @jbvalentin854
      @jbvalentin854 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_o..o_1871 For the benefit it brings its challenges are very easy to overcome, as for the challenges they are nothing compare to scaling up 100 wind solar mix...

  • @Rizhiy13
    @Rizhiy13 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Gas prices in Europe (TTF Gas) have come down to historical average, so all this talk about higher energy prices are just companies being greedy.
    Even so, Germany's decision to turn off nuclear and replace it with coal still seems bonkers.
    Also, you might say that Russia is the biggest climate change prevention champion, since it forced most of Europe to properly start switching to renewables)

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not exacly, demand has not yet come back to normal, one of the main reasons for the low prices. Companies are unsure of what to do because they don't know when prices will go up again, and eletricity costs remain much higher

    • @Murmilone
      @Murmilone ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The historical average is below $200 for TTF1000, now it's $260 and will probably get back to $300-$400 since the US has been shutting down its gas & oil rigs and the OPEC is going to cut its oil production (oil prices do correlate with gas prices).

    • @Rizhiy13
      @Rizhiy13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@joaquimbarbosa896 Why did the electricity prices rise in the first place? Everyone said it is because Russian gas was cut off and gas prices increased. Now when gas prices are back down, electricity prices remain high? Why?
      I strongly believe in Capitalism and believe that companies should deliver profits to the shareholders when given opportunity, but let's be real about what is causing the higher prices. Corporate profits are at an all-time high, they rose much higher than just inflation.

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rizhiy13 The gas we're burning rn isn't the gas we are buying but the gas we bought before. Having a market where prices are decided by the most expensive sources results in this
      Also less nuclear avaiable and more carbon credits on coal don't help

    • @johnsamuel1999
      @johnsamuel1999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​@@Rizhiy13 the reason for why prices haven't gone down is for three reasons.
      1, we are using the gas that was bought at a premium
      2, grid and energy production companies took losses in countries like the uk due to price limits. Many smaller utility companies in the uk went bankrupt.
      3, due to inflation prices and wages are still high, so companies are not reducing prices

  • @tobiwan001
    @tobiwan001 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    As an economist I disagree with key elements of your interpretation:
    (1) Europe had higher energy prices than any other place even before the war and therefore energy intensive industries had shut down in the last decades. As a result, European GDP is far less energy price dependent than that of the US or China. There was a very detailed analysis by Clemens Fuest (a leading macroeconomist) about the energy intensity of German industry. Very few products e.g. in the chemicals sector are actually so energy price dependent that the loss of competitiveness is relevant. Ammonia was always going to be imported to Europe in the long term. That was even an explicit plan of the German government as an alternative to natural gas. This will likely not have a major impact on European industry. The plans announced to "shift" production are usually just more localized production and a result of changing supply chains. Currently, Eastern Germany is getting filled with battery gigafactories and semiconductor plants.
    (2) The high cost calculations were made in 2022. Natural gas is now back to the pre-war levels. And while the winter was milder than average, most winters in the last 10 years were. So it's not that much luck, but just in line with long-term weather- and climate models.
    (3) Inflation and the loss of purchasing power was mainly a result of Covid reopening and strained supply chains. That's why the US experience similar levels of inflation and most other places much higher levels
    (4) The most important point: The IRA is an attack on free trade and the market economy in general and it is likely in violation with the WTO rules. Let the US subsidize its industry and basically disable all market mechanisms. It's nothing but a loss in productivity and wealth. There was a good article in the Economist that also argued that Europe should not abandon globalization in the way the US has done. Therefore resistance against electricity subsidies is high, as it simply avoids adjustment of the economy and allocate ressources to the right industries and companies.
    (5) Europe is now shifting to Green energy. This will mean that more of the wealth Europe creates will stay in Europe and that Europe gets geopolitically independent. So let the US and China keep building their coal plants, while Europe is building the future.

    • @toom2141
      @toom2141 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Great reply.
      Green renewable energy for an independent eu. Imagine the wealth we will create for us! 😍

    • @corvus_monedula
      @corvus_monedula ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Good additions but in regards to 5), you have to acknowledge that China installs record levels of renewable energy itself and is also a crucial supplier for i.e. solar or batteries.

    • @tobiwan001
      @tobiwan001 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@corvus_monedula acknowledged 😉. But they are also building massive amounts of coal-fired plants. Along with nuclear. Also China and the US have bought most of their growth over the last decade with massive amounts of debt while Europe fiscally consolidated after the „debt“ crisis (which was not about debt). Today of those three areas Europe is the least indebted, while China and the US are on unsustainable paths.

    • @Myanmartiger921
      @Myanmartiger921 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Future lol? American company’s will write a check and buy it out or those company’s will relocate to usa and list on nyse. As us market is more important

    • @IntoEurope
      @IntoEurope  ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Thanks for your comment and engagement. :) So as a person with am engineering and transition studies background, I disagree with your comments on several points as well.
      1) Yes, Europe had higher energy prices before the war, but it managed to stay competitive despite them, not because. This trend has been getting worse for a while now (there is this great analysis by McKinsey here: www.mckinsey.com/industries/chemicals/our-insights/securing-the-competitiveness-of-the-european-chemical-industry)
      2) Yes the cost calculations were made in 2022, but imho that does not change the logic that Europe has higher energy prices than in China or in the US and that will likely remain so. That is the reason why govs are (at least announcing) subsidies on energy for heavy energy intensive industry.
      3) Fair enough, Ill bite on the Covid re-opening but energy inflation played a big role in that and was compounded by the energy war
      4) I think this is a political disagreement that we have. I believe Bruno Lemaire said 'Europe should not be the last of the Mohicans' when it came to globalisation. I will stick to that perspective on this subject, I believe it is naive to stick to free markets when the others dont.
      5) Europe is shifting to Green and (depending on how the nuclear conversation goes) to nuclear. But that means buying solar panels (and for now batteries) that we are not producing. China is leaving Europe and the US in the dirt when it comes to solar installations. So I disagree that Europe is leading on this point

  • @SerCommander
    @SerCommander ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Author clearly wasn't in Poland. Factories are sprouting like mushrooms after rain.
    And less number of factories does not mean they were lost. WV has inhouse smelters and furnaces for processing ores, manufacturing waste and recycling cars. Before that they used someone else for that with separate industrial complex and machinery.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As if nuclear fusion can't come sooner.

  • @luci75d76
    @luci75d76 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Meanwhile in china the the interest rates has been cut again 10 basis points for each maturity. , the oil prices for finished products fell for the 6 time this year 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Europe is doom !

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Denmark, being a leading windmill power and producer, is planning some major Wind Parks in our North Sea, which will more than cower our electricity consumption + export to other countries. We are planning the largest windmills in the world!

    • @joaquimbarbosa896
      @joaquimbarbosa896 ปีที่แล้ว

      You really should consider nuclear to

    • @corvus_monedula
      @corvus_monedula ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Power generation is one thing, but we really need to step up pan European energy transmission as well as storage (maybe also load shifting)

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Denmark benefits from using Sweden's hydro as a giant battery for all its wind turbines, exporting to Sweden when the wind is strong which allows them to build up a larger hydraulic head in their hydro plants, which can then be "spent" later when Denmark imports during periods of slack wind. That's fine for a country with only 6 million people and not a lot of heavy industry, but if Germany also wants in on the deal Sweden's dams aren't going to cope, especially after a dry winter.

    • @Upik_SG
      @Upik_SG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, damn it, calm down, this isn't funny anymore, what the hell are windmills?

    • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
      @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joaquimbarbosa896 As a first we still have the "waste" from our Nuclear Research Plant at "Risø", on its harbor, waiting to be deposited somewhere "safe"!!!
      As the home of famous Nuclear Scientist, Niels Bohr, it was built as his Research Station till we decided we didn't intend to built Nuclear Plants in Denmark! Now it is a general Power research Station, for all kinds of power

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 ปีที่แล้ว

    20% tariff helps grow domestic economy while reducing deficits and debt, also provides earnings for international trade

  • @kaylalindstedt6887
    @kaylalindstedt6887 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I just wanted to say that you look a little like the actor from Kyle XY.

  • @trillionbones89
    @trillionbones89 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Let's not ignore that most of inflation is not because of costs, but greed.

  • @vinniechan
    @vinniechan ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When I gave a little thought about it after this whole Ukraine thing went down
    We shouted the loudest about moving away from fossil fuels the loudest in the last decade when supply was plentiful
    Once we really moved away from gas we found it not so fun
    We end up importing from north America and Australia which increased carbon footprint
    I don't know how much I can trust about that report of shale gas deposit in the UK
    I want it to be true as having production at home (and for those on the other side of channel closer to home) is still infinitely a better situation to be in
    Geothermal is the only fooly proof form of renewable as it's not beholden to weather or draughts

  • @markusz4447
    @markusz4447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We should start exporting goods again instead of democracy

    • @gezhang-nu2vv
      @gezhang-nu2vv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Democracy in Europe is like a drug

  • @hchoeiberg
    @hchoeiberg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The idea that Europe, a region that I heavily dependent on energy import, should be competitive in the most energy intensive industries seems honestly silly. The places where energy is cheap should do the energy intense industry and Europe should figure out what it does well and then do more of that

  • @doryndeanda2681
    @doryndeanda2681 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When you say energy from elsewhere you mean the high priced gas from USA 😂😂 or from India and China which is also from Russia

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mostly from the US, Norway, and MENA region. Very little from India/China/Russia. Also US energy is "high priced" due to distance and lack of infrastructure to support it; which European leaders refused to create since they were getting cheap energy from Russia.

  • @pedrocavalcante5822
    @pedrocavalcante5822 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really wanted to move to Germany. However, I was scared to see that the cost of living is almost through the roof. I couldn't survive in this country.

  • @ayoCC
    @ayoCC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Europe is big enough to maintain facilities that keeo us 1 or 2 years behind of global production knowhow.
    Not having the industry itself and thus not getting money for the research sucks, so if on EU level we could do something to bring industry to europe it would be great.
    What i would also much prefer ks for europe to wean off of transfers wirh systematic rivals. Yes, maintain trade that improves everyones wealth, but not production chains are not connected to g7 countries that can step in.

  • @MrAmhara
    @MrAmhara ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is idiotic. The Americans are the ones waging economic war with Europe. America created a wedge between Europe and Russia. One consequence is the lost competitiveness in German car and other industrial exports. Also that lack of Russian fertilizer has increased the cost of food due to more expensive options.

    • @resupl
      @resupl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trueee

  • @till_teewurst8674
    @till_teewurst8674 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As soon as the energy mainly comes from renewables we will have very cheap energy prices. So in order to keep the energy intensive industry and even reclaim some of it Europe needs to subsudize energy for a short period of time

  • @diegocavalcante4373
    @diegocavalcante4373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was only for Europe to have ratified the free trade agreement with Mercosur. We could help control inflation. Brazil is a major producer of commodities and could also export Liquefied Natural Gas, green hydrogen and still produce lithium batteries that Europe so badly needs.

  • @horridohobbies
    @horridohobbies ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LNG imports from the USA were at exorbitant prices.

  • @allanjohnsalgado2119
    @allanjohnsalgado2119 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Spain is already on its works to supply power to EU in the future and its now on its early stage renewal energy. Last 2 weeks Spain was able to power itself with renewable energy for 9 hours!

    • @Kafei01
      @Kafei01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solar energy ?

    • @robertofernandez7773
      @robertofernandez7773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is correct but 9 hours is 1/3 of the day. unfortunately you cannot rely on renewable energy . Spain purchases power from France all the time. Which happens to rely on nuclear.

    • @Mpl3564
      @Mpl3564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Portugal too.

  • @Menelvagorothar
    @Menelvagorothar ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I think that the EU's main focus has to remain decarbonization, what will eventually also imply changes to its economic structure. Searching for ways for a successful decarbonization of heavy industry is the "elephant in the room" of the process, one of that crucial components which we rarely talk about, since most of the focus is on the decarbonization of the energy prioduction sector and transport. The solutions here are the development of new power sources for the heavy industry (such as the use of Hydrogen for steelmaking, which is being piloted in Sweden currently) and a shift to a circular economy in most of the heavy industry sectors. Trying to compete with the rest of the world, will shift focus from these crucial processes, that we have to sort out in order to get to net zero GHE. Let's take aluminium for example - this is one of the easiest materials to recycle and recycling aluminium requires much less energy than smelting new aluminium. It should be a goal to switch from new aluminum production to just recylcing aluminium, which reduces energy consumption and materials extraction from nature.

    • @puer4787
      @puer4787 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      it's a challenge that cannot be achieved or fulfilled and will end only in the deindustrialization of europe. every single european has to get ready for their standards of living to massively decline over the next decades. this is inevitable.

    • @ThePlayer920
      @ThePlayer920 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The EU's green energy policies will make the Great Leap Forward look like an economic wonder in comparison

    • @jerrymiller9039
      @jerrymiller9039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only Western democracies decarbonize then it will just mean their economies collapse and it will mean zero improvement at a global level

    • @deaththekid3998
      @deaththekid3998 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePlayer920 and here we go with the nonsensical hyperboles, people like you should try living in an actual dictatorship for a while, I bet you would whine a lot less after that

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Realistically you can't rely on recycled aluminium alone, there's always some waste in a circular economy so you need virgin inputs to keep things topped up.

  • @SeattlePioneer
    @SeattlePioneer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You forgot to mention the dramatic increases in electrical consumption due to government mandates to eliminate gas for heating, water heating, cooking and not to leave that out, huge increases in electricity to recharge electric vehicles.
    Still to be puzzled out ---- how do you use solar power to heat homes during the short days and cold nights of winter, while your car is recharging overnight as well?
    With sufficient subsidies and mandates for heat pumps and electric vehicles you can perhaps get people to switch, but that isn't going to make the sun stay up at night no matter how much environmentalists wish it would.

  • @vvwalker7261
    @vvwalker7261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Europe is behind the innovation curve, that and cheaper power should be focused on

  • @ring-tone278
    @ring-tone278 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Europe is still a loser. Higher energy prices means un-competitiveness.

  • @armchairwarrior963
    @armchairwarrior963 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    China's reexport is tiny compare to India, if any.
    Reason is simple economics.
    China gets gas and oil from Eastern Parts of Russia in Asia.
    India gets the oil/gas that was originally sent to Europe. Much shorter distance and half discounted. China didn't get half discount.
    China always gets blamed in the west.
    India's import and reexport is very short distance. From Black sea to med and to Indian ocean. refined and resold to EU.
    China is from Russia's Far Eastern Ports. Go to China and all the way to South East Asia, to Indian ocean, to med/EU. Does this make sense to you? lol

  • @abidashraf7104
    @abidashraf7104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The European worker is to expensive

  • @IMatchoNation
    @IMatchoNation ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, markets are just really not working for us anymore.

  • @jjohnson649
    @jjohnson649 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A successful government understands Economics over geopolitics. It never fails.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Geopolitics = economics.
      You lack access to a good, you can’t produce said good etc.

  • @movieshub2379
    @movieshub2379 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy to see your destruction 😂