@@Korrupt27 The best way I can describe it is that the bottom end of the notes sound richer, or brighter, resulting in a fuller sound, but it's like barely a difference.
This cracked me up also! Otis is a great guy who was rocking the Yamaha Custom in 1990, as a high school student, before the official release. Not sure if it was an 855 or 875, but he let me play it and it was so much freer and better intonated than my Selmer S80. I think that Yamaha saved Selmer with this horn by forcing Selmer try harder.
Andrew has my old neck lol?? This dude is bleeding my dry. As a Selmer guy myself, I love playing Yamaha sometimes to remind myself of the differences. Oftentimes I think the cons of a Selmer are the pros of a Yamaha and vice versa. Feeling how smooth and sleek a Yamaha is helps me bring that back over to Selmer, even if I have to work a little harder for it. Love how low end softs feel on a Yamaha and how quiet the key action is.
@@Saxologic I’ve only tried it briefly, but it had much more of that evenness throughout registers that I like about Yamaha but still with that thick Selmer sound. More in tune than Series II’s and III’s too. Definitely an exciting horn, planning on getting one next year
I’ve had my custom now for almost a year and have loved every moment of playing it, it feels super versatile between both jazz and classical and the ease of playability is just amazing!
@@bacconbaccon4851 they were imply that Yamaha consistently builds satisfactory horns, i.e an A- horn, and Selmer inconsistently builds superior A+ horns but you have to work to find a good one. In my experience Selmer is inconsistent with setting up their horns. In many cases you need to send them to a skilled tech who can set them up properly which could include tone hole leveling, neck tenon fit, post hole alignment, key cup centering, etc. I had this done with my mark vis and they played like completely different horns, for the better. Just because you buy a horn new doesn’t mean it comes set up correctly.
@jimmymiller5465 Not exactly. The person who made that comment, Andrew, was talking about the quality of his *playing*, not the quality of the horn. He said the Yamaha makes it easier than the Selmer to get to the A- level in his performance. But if he wants to keep going, and reach the A+ level, the Selmer is better for that.
Once you get to this level of playing the difference isn't really SO much about how it sounds versus how you feel playing it, beyond upgrading to an intermediate to professional level horn. Whichever is going to make you feel the most comfortable playing, the better. You should find a way to try out the Yani WO series ;)
I’m more of a Selmer guy myself, though I primarily play tenor, that alto sounded wonderful. Almost got me looking into one, ALMOST. Then I looked at my Selmer super action alto and said “nah, I think I’m good” 😂
I played a Selmer series III for 10 years and recently switched to the Supreme. I like how yamahas play, but I've always been a bit underwhelmed by the projection, except for the few gold plated ones I tried from friends, but those are both unobtanium and expensive :/ So for me the Supreme was the perfect middle ground in the end. Also I'm loving the classical content!
you sound great on both but the newer horn felt like you had a bigger sound and were just overflowing the room with your sound, in a good way. Beautiful tone
i’ve been watching your videos for a while and i played clarinet/bass clarinet but i just got my tenor saxophone! thank you for inspiring me to start saxophone :)
Happy Holiday! As someone who worked in the Band & Orchestral department of the flagship Sam Ash, it was always interesting to play all these back to back, and hear college students run through the gamut. While a YAS is an easy recommendation for anyone advancing, once the Selmer Axos came out, I always preferred them to a YAS62III for being partial to the projection/Selmer sound in a cheaper-scale pro horn (especially since they're now about the same price with inflation). For a higher price, I gotta say, I'm still always partial to a series II vs. an EX or Custom Z for very rounded players who genre jump, but EX's and Z's for those who stick more to Classical.
I understand those fellows are used to their saxophones. But for classical performers, they were more focused on "projection" rather than on "tone-to-tone quality". They did not find time to listen carefully and hear that Custom Yamaha has more fluid action than their Selmers, better intonation control, resulting in much finer legatos without tone-to-tone transitional "peaks" or "handovers", which their Selmers exhibited. In other words, their Selmers sounded more like brass instruments, while Custom Yamaha sounded more like a human voice.
These are some bad boys! My ear tells me though that the Yamaha has more of everything. Projection- I can not really evaluate here, but i thought the Yamaha held its own. Also the tuning sounded better even when the other guys played the Yamaha. Thanks to you all. And what wonderful players you are. Wow! Love to hear the Supreme and the top Yanagisawa thrown into the mix.
I ended up preferring a Custom Z alto (that I got in black lacquer to match my tenor), but with a gold plated E1 neck. The Z feels more free blowing to me than the EX, but the E1 neck keeps the sound warm and controlled. Best of both worlds to me.
The Selmer Sax Player should noticed that the Intonation is much better on your Yamaha. Especially the Selmer III player. The sound is also more complex. Good Deal! Greatings from a Selmer Player.
I own a Selmer Series II sop (and sop is also my primary instrument), I honestly think that us Selmer players are just like magnets towards Selmers, lol. We get very used to the sound, and adapt to it. But Selmer's have a pretty unique sound not given off by other horns, and I think at least for me, that's what keeps me in the mindset of "I prefer to play Selmer's"
it actually does sound nicer and has more overtones than the selmers, especially in the upper register, every ones vibrato suddenly sounded super pro on the new Yamaha
Really strong playing, first and foremost. Musical. I wonder, just as Matthew mentions, is the question that of familiarity versus a horn quality issue. I think it would have added to the mix to get the Selmer guys to switch Selmers-see how that would stack up; possibly see if the Selmers inherently have a definable Selmer core, if that makes any sense. And again, you guys all sound very good. Eli, really good sound. I've always preferred a really good Selmer over a Yamaha (an exception being the "long bow" 134k VI I had compared to a "Purple Label" 62-the 62 was MUCH better), but I wouldn't sell my current VI's for anything but a better Selmer. Finally, what sounds best on this recording? Selmer, no question. You sound better on your personal horns. More "singing", interesting sound. BWDIK?
My friend has a Yamaha Custom EX Soprano and Tenor, and it doesn't float every person's boat, it feels like vanilla frosting, while I want that sort of dark kinda brown chocolate frosting, not saying you cant get a dark sound out of it, but others are better at it.
I felt this when choosing my soprano. I really like the custom Yamaha soprano saxes, less so the P Mauriat's and the Yanagisawa's. I ended up choosing a Selmer Series II, and I really love the comparison you made there because I was looking for chocolate frosting and I feel like for me, it was the Series II (with the Series III very closely behind, I almost bought that but the Series II won me over)
It's funny, Otis Murphy is my favorite classical saxophonist. I only heard of him because I played the Fantasia my junior year of high school. It obviously kicked my ass.
ferling 22 is my technical this year, had a double take hearing it haha. I can definitely hear more warmth in the ex than the 62, and who knows the differences you feel lol. Have loved my Z for a few years now, but never tried an ex! Speaking of ex’s my 875 soprano is currently shipping from wwbw 👀
Nathan, why did you clip off the high c# in Ferling 22? I love your playing, but I think it would sound much more connected if you would take a shorter breath or not breathe at all. The breath in the first measure sounded more like what I have heard from professional players before. Anyways, please don’t take this as an insult or anything, just a kind suggestion!
Nathan, you and the guys seem to be the ones who taught Mr. Muhle (sp.) and Mr. Rascher how to play European Classical Saxophone 🎷 (smile) You guys are exceptional 👏 (and rich, may I add) Thanks, champion 🏆
When you were playing I don't think the sound/timber difference translated very well on my headphones, but what I could definetely hear is that the articulation sounded clearer on the new one. Maybe it's the horn or you felt more comfortable on it, but either way sounded great!
hello from Catalonia, I love your videos BTW what app you use to create sheet on Ipad??? I saw in one of your videos that u was transcribing a solo in your ipad but I didn’t see what app u was using. sorry for my english :)
Just a question on the comparison with the old horn (the yas-62). Did any of the mouthpiece set up change between the saxophones in the yas62 and 875EX comparison? If not, then the 875ex sounded fuller in both the low and higher ranges for sure. I've tried all of the horns throughout the video, including the Super Actions your friends had. My preference between all these horns was also the 875EX. I did end up choosing a cannonball(I ordered a custom horn) because I wanted certain custom qualities that they offered for a much smaller price, lol. Some of these qualities i chosewere aesthetic, but the primary thing that I wanted was the ability to have them raise the stones on the side keys to put less distance between my hands and the horn for those. I know it's a small thing, but I always hate when you get the palm key risers and they slide off. I didn't want a horn where I would have to spend thousands on, then immediately spend more money to set it up to my personal feel and preference.
With what I mentioned, I know most don't need risers for palm keys, I just know my bad habits of raising my hands too far off the horn for palm keys and chose to work on it and also get a horn that would assist in fixing those habits. Lol
When you compared the 3,000 dollar saxophone vs the $250 saxophone my son wanted it for Christmas so I got it for him and within 2 days he could play careless whisperer really well
I played a series 2 in high school and for the first half of my undergrad. Then switched to an EX. Honestly not that different but the consistency of Yamaha has won me over. Every brand new EX plays and sounds the same for me, where as I played two Series IIs that were back to back serial numbers when I bought mine and one was a total dog. A good Selmer is great, but all Yamahas are that way it seems.
the saxologic classical era is feeding my soul
Me whenever someone does a direct comparison and I’m supposed to think they sound different 👁️👄👁️
I was reading your comments so basically as good as having closed eyes, still couldn't tell the difference XD
It’s kinda hard to tell sometimes but in my opinion the new one sounds brighter
@@Korrupt27 The best way I can describe it is that the bottom end of the notes sound richer, or brighter, resulting in a fuller sound, but it's like barely a difference.
The zoom into Otis Murphy as Fantasia played absolutely killed me
This cracked me up also! Otis is a great guy who was rocking the Yamaha Custom in 1990, as a high school student, before the official release. Not sure if it was an 855 or 875, but he let me play it and it was so much freer and better intonated than my Selmer S80. I think that Yamaha saved Selmer with this horn by forcing Selmer try harder.
brooo i LOVE your new classical sound it's sounding better and better. the casual talent from everyone in this video is insane
Andrew has my old neck lol?? This dude is bleeding my dry.
As a Selmer guy myself, I love playing Yamaha sometimes to remind myself of the differences. Oftentimes I think the cons of a Selmer are the pros of a Yamaha and vice versa. Feeling how smooth and sleek a Yamaha is helps me bring that back over to Selmer, even if I have to work a little harder for it. Love how low end softs feel on a Yamaha and how quiet the key action is.
The maestro has spoken. Very interesting! What do you think of the Supreme, if you've tried it?
@@Saxologic I’ve only tried it briefly, but it had much more of that evenness throughout registers that I like about Yamaha but still with that thick Selmer sound. More in tune than Series II’s and III’s too. Definitely an exciting horn, planning on getting one next year
I should stop being surprised when you show up anywhere there's a saxophone being discussed.
@@disgruntled_llama guilty as charged
I’ve had my custom now for almost a year and have loved every moment of playing it, it feels super versatile between both jazz and classical and the ease of playability is just amazing!
THE LEGEND RETURNS! Merry Christmas Nathan!
You are the legend! Merry Christmas brother Rockett
I could literally listen to you play on that yas-875 all day, the sound is absolutely beautiful and so smooth.
I like the A- A+ comparison. That’s how I’ve always felt.
what does A- / A+ mean?
@@bacconbaccon4851 they were imply that Yamaha consistently builds satisfactory horns, i.e an A- horn, and Selmer inconsistently builds superior A+ horns but you have to work to find a good one. In my experience Selmer is inconsistent with setting up their horns. In many cases you need to send them to a skilled tech who can set them up properly which could include tone hole leveling, neck tenon fit, post hole alignment, key cup centering, etc. I had this done with my mark vis and they played like completely different horns, for the better. Just because you buy a horn new doesn’t mean it comes set up correctly.
@jimmymiller5465 Not exactly. The person who made that comment, Andrew, was talking about the quality of his *playing*, not the quality of the horn. He said the Yamaha makes it easier than the Selmer to get to the A- level in his performance. But if he wants to keep going, and reach the A+ level, the Selmer is better for that.
Bro that new horn sounds so legit.
I have checked your channel every day since the last upload and the one day I didn't check you uploaded. lol I love you
Not gonna lie Yamaha's top series is amazing. That 875 sounds amazing. Same with the 82z. I love the sound!
Once you get to this level of playing the difference isn't really SO much about how it sounds versus how you feel playing it, beyond upgrading to an intermediate to professional level horn. Whichever is going to make you feel the most comfortable playing, the better. You should find a way to try out the Yani WO series ;)
I’m more of a Selmer guy myself, though I primarily play tenor, that alto sounded wonderful. Almost got me looking into one, ALMOST. Then I looked at my Selmer super action alto and said “nah, I think
I’m good” 😂
Congrats on your new horn! Hope your 62 finds a new home quickly! Happy Holidays!
Fabulous demonstration. I’d love to see more of this concept for other sax equipment.
I made the same transition as you!! I went from using a Yamaha 62 and almost 2 years ago I got a silver plated EX and I love it
I played a Selmer series III for 10 years and recently switched to the Supreme. I like how yamahas play, but I've always been a bit underwhelmed by the projection, except for the few gold plated ones I tried from friends, but those are both unobtanium and expensive :/ So for me the Supreme was the perfect middle ground in the end.
Also I'm loving the classical content!
not sure if he included that, but that's exactly what andrew and i thought, too. subpar projection compared to sii/siii.
I’m not really paying attention to the vs, just enjoying your gorgeous playing while I make breakfast here
“Selmer Boys” 😂
HOW IS HE NOT AT 1 MILLION YET?
Needs stickers
Not the TMEA etudes I thought I finally escaped them
The video we’ve all been waiting for
you sound great on both but the newer horn felt like you had a bigger sound and were just overflowing the room with your sound, in a good way. Beautiful tone
i’ve been watching your videos for a while and i played clarinet/bass clarinet but i just got my tenor saxophone! thank you for inspiring me to start saxophone :)
SELMER TRIUMPHS AS ALWAYS
Happy Holiday! As someone who worked in the Band & Orchestral department of the flagship Sam Ash, it was always interesting to play all these back to back, and hear college students run through the gamut. While a YAS is an easy recommendation for anyone advancing, once the Selmer Axos came out, I always preferred them to a YAS62III for being partial to the projection/Selmer sound in a cheaper-scale pro horn (especially since they're now about the same price with inflation). For a higher price, I gotta say, I'm still always partial to a series II vs. an EX or Custom Z for very rounded players who genre jump, but EX's and Z's for those who stick more to Classical.
I understand those fellows are used to their saxophones. But for classical performers, they were more focused on "projection" rather than on "tone-to-tone quality". They did not find time to listen carefully and hear that Custom Yamaha has more fluid action than their Selmers, better intonation control, resulting in much finer legatos without tone-to-tone transitional "peaks" or "handovers", which their Selmers exhibited. In other words, their Selmers sounded more like brass instruments, while Custom Yamaha sounded more like a human voice.
I’m in love with the YAS-875EX! I tried it out a couple of days ago (along with the YAS-62III) and I so badly wanted both horns 😫
AYYY WE MISSED YOU!
The time has come!
definitely warmer on the new one, going to see if i can get one soon!
These are some bad boys! My ear tells me though that the Yamaha has more of everything. Projection- I can not really evaluate here, but i thought the Yamaha held its own. Also the tuning sounded better even when the other guys played the Yamaha.
Thanks to you all. And what wonderful players you are. Wow! Love to hear the Supreme and the top Yanagisawa thrown into the mix.
Playability is the most important thing. If they don't like how it plays, it's a dud
I ended up preferring a Custom Z alto (that I got in black lacquer to match my tenor), but with a gold plated E1 neck. The Z feels more free blowing to me than the EX, but the E1 neck keeps the sound warm and controlled. Best of both worlds to me.
The Selmer Sax Player should noticed that the Intonation is much better on your Yamaha. Especially the Selmer III player. The sound is also more complex. Good Deal! Greatings from a Selmer Player.
2:21 Yes I love the Brahms sonata!
I own a Selmer Series II sop (and sop is also my primary instrument), I honestly think that us Selmer players are just like magnets towards Selmers, lol. We get very used to the sound, and adapt to it. But Selmer's have a pretty unique sound not given off by other horns, and I think at least for me, that's what keeps me in the mindset of "I prefer to play Selmer's"
You’re my favorite saxophone TH-camr and I really wish you posted more often
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How
Pls help what username
Username for what though
SaxoLogic
That dude in the green shirt was spot on with his altissimo. Wish I could get nearly as good as that.
Piece Sounds very clarinet . Like it. Thanks
Many years ago, I had a Selmer Mark VI tenor early 1970's vintage. Great horn.
it actually does sound nicer and has more overtones than the selmers, especially in the upper register, every ones vibrato suddenly sounded super pro on the new Yamaha
Compare to a Yanagisawa now!
Also, what tune was Eli playing @13:15 ?
This threw me for a loop, that was my EXACT setup for a while. Neck strap and all!
I think you just like opening boxes with new saxophones in them. 😂
Really strong playing, first and foremost. Musical. I wonder, just as Matthew mentions, is the question that of familiarity versus a horn quality issue. I think it would have added to the mix to get the Selmer guys to switch Selmers-see how that would stack up; possibly see if the Selmers inherently have a definable Selmer core, if that makes any sense. And again, you guys all sound very good. Eli, really good sound. I've always preferred a really good Selmer over a Yamaha (an exception being the "long bow" 134k VI I had compared to a "Purple Label" 62-the 62 was MUCH better), but I wouldn't sell my current VI's for anything but a better Selmer. Finally, what sounds best on this recording? Selmer, no question. You sound better on your personal horns. More "singing", interesting sound. BWDIK?
Only Selmer I ever played was when I had to borrow my teacher's VI for an audition. My bis key pad came off my 82Z an hour before my audition lol.
Playing with Mr. Lulloff this weekend in Chicago! Im glad you made that reference lmao.
My friend has a Yamaha Custom EX Soprano and Tenor, and it doesn't float every person's boat, it feels like vanilla frosting, while I want that sort of dark kinda brown chocolate frosting, not saying you cant get a dark sound out of it, but others are better at it.
I felt this when choosing my soprano. I really like the custom Yamaha soprano saxes, less so the P Mauriat's and the Yanagisawa's. I ended up choosing a Selmer Series II, and I really love the comparison you made there because I was looking for chocolate frosting and I feel like for me, it was the Series II (with the Series III very closely behind, I almost bought that but the Series II won me over)
I love ur vids u have inspired me to be a better sax player, i practice 45min-2hrs a day, i hope to someday be as talented and kind as you 😊
Ofc you had to bring out my ptsd with ferling no.16 and area auditions
I can't imagine how many saxophones this man has... (Also where do you keep all your saxes)
Saxologic I need you to upload again… keep up the good work!
Me on my cannonball that hasn't seen a repair shop in at least 5 years.
It's funny, Otis Murphy is my favorite classical saxophonist. I only heard of him because I played the Fantasia my junior year of high school. It obviously kicked my ass.
ferling 22 is my technical this year, had a double take hearing it haha. I can definitely hear more warmth in the ex than the 62, and who knows the differences you feel lol. Have loved my Z for a few years now, but never tried an ex!
Speaking of ex’s my 875 soprano is currently shipping from wwbw 👀
LESSGO NATHANS BACK
Nice Dahl Concerto 6:45
I'd say it converted me but that's already the one I'd have if cost was no object. But since I'm just an amateur my YAS-23 is good enough for me.
Great Horn
All horns are so personal.
No two saxophones are alike.
It really boils down to what you are used to.
6:17 best part HAHA
They both sounded like classical saxophone to me
Nathan, why did you clip off the high c# in Ferling 22? I love your playing, but I think it would sound much more connected if you would take a shorter breath or not breathe at all. The breath in the first measure sounded more like what I have heard from professional players before. Anyways, please don’t take this as an insult or anything, just a kind suggestion!
Workin on it! Took 2 years off serious classical, tryna revive it back to life lol
Nathan, you and the guys seem to be the ones who taught Mr. Muhle (sp.) and Mr. Rascher how to play European Classical Saxophone 🎷 (smile)
You guys are exceptional 👏 (and rich, may I add)
Thanks, champion 🏆
When you were playing I don't think the sound/timber difference translated very well on my headphones, but what I could definetely hear is that the articulation sounded clearer on the new one. Maybe it's the horn or you felt more comfortable on it, but either way sounded great!
I’m disappointed.
Nathan didn’t do his signature knife move. 😢
And Creston Concerto I 11:15
Indudablemente el Custom 875 EX II Es el ganador !!!
Saludos desde Perú, hermano!
Gracias por subtitulos en español
I have the yas875EXl and my B key was way to low and my C# was too high making my pinky get stuck frequently. I’m so glad I got it fixed😅
Hey saxologic I love your vids especially your unboxing.
Does anyone know what mouthpiece Eli is using? At 13:14
whats happen with the famoues mark 6?
I have it, it got damaged in packaging so I have to send it back, rip
YESSS AN UPLOAD!
The second I heard the etude I started having flashbacks
hello from Catalonia, I love your videos BTW what app you use to create sheet on Ipad??? I saw in one of your videos that u was transcribing a solo in your ipad but I didn’t see what app u was using.
sorry for my english :)
What type of neck does the YAS 62III come with?
I have the same one in silver plate and love it!
Just a question on the comparison with the old horn (the yas-62). Did any of the mouthpiece set up change between the saxophones in the yas62 and 875EX comparison? If not, then the 875ex sounded fuller in both the low and higher ranges for sure. I've tried all of the horns throughout the video, including the Super Actions your friends had. My preference between all these horns was also the 875EX.
I did end up choosing a cannonball(I ordered a custom horn) because I wanted certain custom qualities that they offered for a much smaller price, lol. Some of these qualities i chosewere aesthetic, but the primary thing that I wanted was the ability to have them raise the stones on the side keys to put less distance between my hands and the horn for those. I know it's a small thing, but I always hate when you get the palm key risers and they slide off. I didn't want a horn where I would have to spend thousands on, then immediately spend more money to set it up to my personal feel and preference.
With what I mentioned, I know most don't need risers for palm keys, I just know my bad habits of raising my hands too far off the horn for palm keys and chose to work on it and also get a horn that would assist in fixing those habits. Lol
Thought you had a 6 dude? Are you using something different for classical?
Nathan, I’m so close to pulling the trigger on buying the EXii. Did you buy directly from the manufacturer or from a retail store?
the furling 16 was really nice
When you compared the 3,000 dollar saxophone vs the $250 saxophone my son wanted it for Christmas so I got it for him and within 2 days he could play careless whisperer really well
Nice job keep it up!
I played a series 2 in high school and for the first half of my undergrad. Then switched to an EX. Honestly not that different but the consistency of Yamaha has won me over. Every brand new EX plays and sounds the same for me, where as I played two Series IIs that were back to back serial numbers when I bought mine and one was a total dog. A good Selmer is great, but all Yamahas are that way it seems.
what ever happened to the mark vi that you got from tim lin?
What you were playing for the original sound comparison is that from your book or if not what is it from?
How’s is the 62 with the v1 neck?
RIP knife edits lmao 😭
knew something was off !! damn
It will come back sporadically
Love the Yamaha! What happened with your Selmer MVI?
Did Syos stop making light purple colored mouthpieces?
Do u ever name ur saxophone when u get them ? Or is it only me ! Bc out band Director last year told us to but I’m in 7th grade band .😊
Merry Christmas Nathan
the tmea ferling etude got me off guard
etude 3 feeling for region w
It says I got selected for the giveaway what do I do
NOO U DIDNT DO THE KNIFE THING
New video yessir
Lol I’m playing cedar tree in this and just was on your insta story, I promise I know other tunes
lol that yamaha kicked those selmers in the butt. selmer bro sounded was bigger on the Yamaha
I play Cannonballs and MacSax