ReZero characters the first time you meet them. "This person is really interesting, but kinda psycho." ReZero characters after learning their backstory. "My earlier opinions still apply, but I also now love them and want to protect them."
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 You don't ever want to protect Regulus? By that do you mean, you would feel an inclination to protect other characters, but are specifically choosing to exclude Regulus from that inclination? For what reason do you make this arbitrary distinction between him and other characters? Given that there is no personal history between you and this individual, as well as the absolute lack of context you have provided for this statement, I can only assume that you mean to imply that Regulus is to be valued lower than other people in the world. I'll have you know that Regulus is a decent, respectable member of society who has a job. It's not that I'm trying to say that people who have a job have more value than other people in this world, but I think almost everyone would agree that just existing as a decent member of society isn't any reason to put him under other people. In fact, by choosing to protect others but not him, one could say that a power imbalance is being created, in which Regulus has been placed at an unfair disadvantage compared to the other citizens of this society. In that sense, there is no one who could contest that your statement is uncalled for, and even goes so far as to encroach on Regulus's entitlement to not being persecuted by the environment he is in. Yes, I do believe you are violating his rights.
Keep in mind, we were told the barrier only traps those of half and half mized blood. When Emilia enters Sanctuary she passes put but Subaru and Otto don't. Meaning she is exactly 50/50
“Betelgeuse” has two pronunciations: ‘beh-tel-geh-oos’ (with the hard ‘g’), which is a more British/European pronunciation, and ‘beetle-juice’ which is a more American pronunciation. In our world, Betelgeuse is a red supergiant star in the constellation Orion (part of Orion’s belt); in recent years, it caused excitement in the astronomical field as it mysteriously dimmed. Betelgeuse was also a 1980s horror comedy starring Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder. In Re: Zero there are several other characters named after stars: Regulus is the brightest star in the constellation Leo, and Subaru is the Japanese word for the Pleiades (which is why the Subaru car logo has seven stars). Aldebaran, a bright star, is also the name of the helmeted attendant of Priscilla, one of the candidates to become the next ruler of Lugunica. Though you were trying to figure out who Emilia’s biological mom is, I doubt that it’s Satella (I haven’t read the novels so I don’t really know for sure) because Emilia is supposed to be a half elf/half human, and Satella is half elf/half human. If Emilia’s father is full elf, and Satella was her mother, Emilia would only be a quarter human.
beetle juice is not the american pronunciation, its just a nickname people gave him. betel- gyoose is the correct way to say, its not at all the european way.
@@chelronin7843 I think they meant that beetle juice is the american pronunciation of the star, not of the Rezero character. Also the Rezero character is spelled slightly different. His name is Petelgeuse, not Betelgeuse (the subs for season 1 got it wrong). Therefore the pronunciation is actually petel-gyoose. The part that makes the whole pronunciation thing really weird is the fact that his nickname is Guese and that is not pronounced gyoose but instead is pronounced juice.
This Season Just Slaps you every episode. I like these long deep discussions; I feel like I'm re-experiencing the greatness of this show as if I'm a light novel reader watching it again with people and hearing their opinions and having a deep discussion.
Remember in season 1 when Emilia had to put Betelgeuse down, she teared up. She couldn't consciously remember him, but every fiber of her body remembers him as he was. So as he passes away she couldn't help but cry. That episode hit so much harder when rewatching it.
😂😂 I loved all the theory with Satella as the mother for almost an hour only for them to realize in the end that genetics doesn't add up and now you don't know what to think I also loved the eye analysis and...uhm Minerva would be a good candidate
Soemthing to keep in mind is that last week's episode, Tappei confirmed in a tweet when it came out that Echidna said it as a racial slur and not actual fact
Your discussions are great though they went in some wild directions, and a lot more info is available next episode. 54:40 Remember that Betelgeuse is a spirit who can occupy the bodies of the spiritually adept, that's why he is older than some elves.
Why would they remember that? The show hasn't clarified that yet(next episode does in fact bring it up though. Most reactors miss it, but these guys definitely will notice it)
@@handtomouth4690the light novels had Subaru and Julius realise he's a spirit in arc 3, the anime doesn't explain how he possessed Subaru and others well enough. Whether it's right to say "remember" or not, it's absolutely necessary to know Petelgeuse is a spirit to completely understand him at this point(for example in arc 4 light novels when he cries meeting Emilia he's clearly talking about her "saving" him back when he was a spirit with barely any awareness, giving him a self and understanding of love emotion etc... This is impossible to understand on an equal basis with light novel readers if you don't learn that he's a spirit occupying human hosts).
Bold of you to assume that anyone definitively knows who Emilia's mom is atm. But I'm impressed by the deductive skills at the end of the vid about the possibilities and probabilities. Excited to see the reaction to the later trial where this will get brought up again.
At first I suspected Puck was some sort of incarnation of Fortuna, but maybe Puck is actually her mom or dad. Given how Puck reacted to Emilia calling him/her dad (in the OVA IIRC), then just goes along with it.
Green hair is just normal there. Also, it's usually only suggested people are descended without our or their knowledge from the start through things like hair AND eyes combinations. Like Emilia has both in common with Fortuna, Satella, Felt is rumoured as surviving royalty because of her blond hair and crimson eyes, Reinhard and other Astreas have flame red hair and sky blue eyes, etc.
This is literally the best conversation i've ever seen from anime only's at this point in the anime on Emilia's heritage. There is no answer as of now. I've read almost every re:zero media that's been translated and it still took me till after to read the Light novel adaptation (webnovel is slightly different and i read that first long before) and a certain conversation after the trials to connect those dots.
Betelguese is a spirit, which is why he is so old. Also, Emilia's father is an elf which means the mother is a human as Emilia is a half elf, so the mother can't be Satella as she's a half elf as well. Also, i just love how Regulus rants everytime he speaks 🤣
@jmiguelhernandez1640 The part about Emilia's parents is not. When S2 was airing Tappei(author) made a tweet to go along with it. For example last week's episode he clarified Echidna used witches daughter as a racial slur and not an actual truth. For this episode he clarified that Emilia indeed has a full elf father an full elf mother. We know she has to be half since Fortuna is full and therefore her brother is highly likely to be too. However we didn't know Emilia was half human for sure, there technically are other races that look extremely human but Tappei confirmed it to be a human mother
@@bryangarcia5207 Your right Emilia is probably the daughter of Puck and Minerva. Emilia being 400 years old and having the physical and mental mind of a 7 year old 107 years ago is completely possible with new mechanics the story introduces later. Also its cut content as of the 3rd tea party but Minerva is confirmed to have a deep connection to protecting the Elves. She also dies in a trap, knowing it was a trap, in the hopes of saving who she could. Puck made a contract with Echinda to become the beast of the end to watch over Emilia. That much is clear from Frozen bonds. The crack theory I have is Satella and Emilia are twins. A rem and ram situation. But the implication of twins in re:zero is that twins are beings who share a soul. I think Emilia could be a twin in the sense that Satella split off part of her soul (this ties into the aging thing, if you know you know I'm not posting spoilers here) and how Emilia being a vessel may not be a bad thing. If Fortuna knew about this Emilia could be a vessel and it could be a reunification with yourself rather than an oblivion. This is spoilers but this is a theme Subaru will confront in Arc 6. He even says Roxas from Kingdom heart's line "I guess my summer vacation is over".
@@orsted4670Betelgeuse being a spirit, imo, was poorly handled in the anime. In the LN we know about this through Subaru's thought process on one of the last fights against Betelgeuse. On the anime it's more difficult to notice this bc it's implied that Subaru already knows when he introduces Julius as Betelgeuse natural enemy, bc Julius has a divine blessing of the spirits or something, he basically is a spirit tamer.
I don't know if you guys would ever read this or not, but I very much hope you watch or give reaction to AnyNews "Re Zero Cut Content" on after watching every corresponding episode (watch Re Zero eps 2 x 22, then watch anynews re zero cut content eps 2 x 22) Apparently there's quite a lot of things the anime cut that made us confused or misinterpret things, and watching his explanation helps understand the missing context without spoiling future episodes, it actually going to help you understand better when something happened out of context in the future. And it's definitely very pleasing for us, your viewer, when you understand things better and can give proper reaction to it, instead of feeling confused at the moment.
Emilia is a half elf. She´s hold back by the barrier. Satella was an half elf. It´s been stated multiple times and it´s the reason Emilia is shunned as half-devil. Fortuna is using "sister" to refer to her brothers wife. Emilias father is a full elf. Echidna uses "Witches daughter" as a slur.. so it doesn´t need to be taken too seriously. Though there is someone with similar eye shape to Emilia among the witches.. Geuse is using "kenzai".. which means "in good health". So it´s not the other "well".
It’s impossible for satella to be Emilia’s mother because satella is a half elf, a half elf + a human would result in a quarter elf if we go by that kind of standard. Or a half elf + a full elf would be 3/4 elf
@@Rajapel98 It's always funny to me that people hear "witch's daughter" and immediately go back to the Satella theory. Why not one of the other 6 witches that we've met? Well, maybe not Typhon. I don't like the implications of that possibility...
@@ben-san9677 Why not Typhon? Her image in the graveyard could be an earlier form... just like Echidna. I mean, she's not because she's a psychopath but in theory
Right well where did I put those tissues? My heart... bois I don't think I can watch too much of young Emilia. Gonna overload my fragile soul. *dies of cuteness*
Im kinda salty they forgot Emilia being half-elf like Satella is kinda a big deal, so Satella cannot be her mother. EDIT: ah, they realized 56:20 nice 😅
Yeah, unless we've been fed false info at some point, Satella can't be Emilia's mother due to the half-elf lineage and Sanctuary rules. Regarding Geuse being older than an elf like Fortuna, we know from S1 that he can change bodies. As for Shima, we learned that the copies of Ryuzu have to take turns guarding the Sanctuary because they are artificial beings that consume mana like spirits. So she's probably struggling to maintain her form at night instead of resting.
Okay, I've been patient for a long time, but now my strength is gone and I'm going to say this. I'm watching the reaction with the translation into Russian using the Yandex auto-translator, and my God, I'm just in love with the fact that every time you say "Petelgeuse" the auto-translator translates it As "Battle Geese"
Things gotten interesting here, while waiting your reaction, Another channel Teeaboo recently started to watch re zero too. So if anyone still waiting next episode yall can just watch his as well.
As Emilia father is Fortuna brother so he is mostly like a full blood elf so as his child is a half-elf her mother must had to be Full blooded human or at least not a elf, so Satella as also a half-elf CAN'T be her mother Edit: also Satella tells to Subaru she loves him and ONLY him
Maaaan, you were so close to guarantee that Emilia has to have either 2 half-elf parents or one pure elf and one human parent. But you got stucked on "we don't know if she is exactly 50/50" when you actually got the exact indisputable proof that she is a 50/50 blooded. The sanctuary barrier affects her and it's supposed to only affect in that exact case!
His name is Petelgeuse... not Betelgeuse in the WN. Betelgeuse is a star like the other archbishops names. But Geuse name is P instead of B... The reason behind this is a spoiler according to the author himself.
Source i thought it was because in Japanese pronunciation it was said that way because of that...we know all the names has close ties to stars. But i don't see what changing B from p will do..its just the way Japanese pronunciation was translated
@@MrTimeattacker It's not because of pronunciation. In Japanese, his name is written as ペテルギウス・ロマネコンティ. It starts with ぺ (pe) and not べ (be). About it there being a reason in-story for this, I wasn't able to find a source, since it's probably from a very old tweet, but it's a very well-known fact in the community.
And now we begin to get the background of Emilia and her last few days before waking up with no memory of who she is. It’s done perfectly and lil’ Emilia is cute as a button, the reveal of Geuse is such a damn shaking one and when you guys see what sent him over the edge, oh god is it gonna change how you see him. Bits to note, it’s 400 years in the past, it’s around the same time as the Sanctuary was being built apparently and a lot of things outside of these safe havens were apparently dangerous. A lot to consider.
I also think Emilia's mom could be a human. Her Dad is an Elf because his sister (Fortuna) is an Elf too and they both have silver hair. And Echidna herself call her witch's daughter which could be a sign that one of the other witches could be her mom or maybe a witch we don't know about.
Witch's daughter is also an insult that Emila has suffered for most of the latter part of her life and Echina hates her. It's not a reliable lore dump, even if it ends up being true.
On the "witch's daughter" thing: I haven't got any special insight into the source material (I'm an anime-only viewer at the moment), but I do think it's worth noting that "majo no musume" can translate less literally, because "musume" can mean "daughter" or just "girl" (e.g. the Monster Musume is just a series about monster girls). Given the tone of the rest of Echidna's dialogue in that scene, it would be entirely possible she was just referring to Emilia as "witch girl" as an extra layer of disrespect.
Amazing discussion as always. I wasn't sure how discussion will end but my god you actually arrived on the most prevalent theory that minerva is Emilia's mom or at least has very close ties to her....But knowing how re:zero is targeted towards heavy analytical readers...he might be baiting us, the other alternative is actually echidna herself. Just to clarify timeline's Eli-or Forest events :- 100 years ago basically these next 3 ep. Sanctuary,roswall,beatrice,witches,satella devouring/sealing...etc : 400 years ago. The big issue with minerva theory so far is that minerva supposedly died 400 years ago and at best child Emilia wouldn't be older than 50 years, so there is some time stretching there. as clarified earlier Frozen witch was just a slur, but in that Emilia moment took it up as badge of honor because that's what villagers in frozen bonds called her. But echinda calling her frozen witch/ witch daughter could also be taken literally but just for theory crafting sake as always dialogues in re:zero has double/triple meaning especially how they keep getting re-contextualized. Since it was confirmed this episode and in S1 as well, Yes geuse is a spirit and he specifically is a body hopping spirit which he used to great effect in S1,although he maintained this body in this ep tll what you see in S1 of him. Maybe that's what he means when he calls himself a sinner because he body snatches..? or could be something else..don't know we only got part of puzzle in this season for the events from years ago....rest will get filed up as story goes on...some questions/mysteries answered but more popped up. Running theme in show but many individuals of great power are trying to achieve immortality for one reason or another,Regulus is no exception but its more a happy stance...although so far how they have achieved is different for each one of them which is very cool, regulus you will know how once his power will be revealed its closely tied to that. They say half knowledge is worse than no knowledge , can be said for the anime adaptation as well....They don't fully explain or explain enough, imo if you can't sell it visually/direction wise then director shouldn't just give 1 off lines and think audience will read in between the lines, it worked in S1 but it doesn't work here
Also for last week's episode, when the episode came out, the author(Tappei) clarified Echidna called her witches daughter as a racial slur and that it wasn't actually a fact
So yeah I found Tappei's tweets for the episode on a reddit discussion and no, Echidna does not call her witch's daughter as a slur. It. Makes. No. Sense. Echidna is an extremely important character, lying about her is just shit.
@@Pakapakachamait's not a racial slur he's lying about the author. Echidna's hatred and words to Emilia are blatantly signifying something we don't know. Some of her weirdness about Emilia being a slut or something are a petty dig based on the fact she likely saw her whole argument with Subaru (I mean she doesn't have to watch outside of the trial because since they both take it she probably accessed both Emilia and Subaru's memories) and is critical of her reliance on Subaru(someone who loves her while she has not yet returned his feelings). It's very petty. But she also gets emotional for deeper rooted reasons. Emilia in the novels frequently remarks in her thoughts she can't hate someone she doesn't know well enough, so Echidna must know /understand her well enough to be able to hate her. Whether this is because of accessing memories or things which happened in her life, wait and see, but her feelings and words are a mystery still.
@@siginotmylastname3969 I see, I see. Then do you think there's a possibility that Satella has some sort of power where she can peak to the future OR her future self can show a memory from the future to the past, kind of like Eren? Like Emilia is a vessel for Satella, maybe there's a universe or something where Emilia became Satella's vessel and all the memories from Emilia integrated to Satella, which may contribute to why Satella is so fixated with Subaru's existence?
Up to date on Reddit the best theory was Minerva. If you ask my theory I'm on the side, that it's a time dilemma theory. 400 years when the witches of sins died but it was 300 years after Emilia had lived so it can't be any of the witches of sins and we know Emilia was 114 years old (unconfirmed) based on the linear timeline. What if the time line wasn't Linear? Something reset the timeline as same as the power of envy. Which Emilia might exist in both timelines. Remember how season 1 episode 1 Subaru died before he got Isekai (that flashback promised to that dead girl).
Apologies for the passionate rant!!! I always argue against it because there's no reason to introduce a bigger loop for Subaru/Emilia/Satella so long as books of prophecy exist. My argument also applies for the weird can x character loop before Subaru does/remember Subaru's deaths question(if you know it, I'm not saying it's weird because I disagree but because it has little plot relevance), trying not to spoil details. Books of prophecy are such an integral part of the plot which can explain every occurrence seen as a bigger timeloop. In addition to that, Emilia is called Satella's vessel and we have clones who were intended as Echidna's vessel, so Emilia actually being past/alternate Satella isn't satisfying explanation for those lines. It's just not necessary to make Subaru's power less "OP" in that someone else can make him loop or can loop before him, because it isn't his power really but Satella's. And Satella is canonically only matched in power by Reinhardt, plus potentially controls Subaru's loops to an extent already, plus actually wants him to remember her, so if anyone were to result in a meta loop or alternate timeline thing it would be her and this would start contradicting her current love for Subaru. I WILL pose an argument against one of my points though lol. When Petelgeuse called her a vessel I'm pretty sure he said for the "witch" NOT Satella, and those are separate people to many characters. It could be Emilia and Satella are both vessels in this sense, so Emilia becoming Satella/being alternate Satella wouldn't ruin it or be contradictory. But I still think everything in the plot will be more satisfyingly concluded if it doesn't introduce elements like alternate universes Subaru has nothing to do with or meta loops. Tappei's a good enough writer to answer it all with the currently existing magical elements, which avoids a potential power creep issue. Not power creep as in villains becoming op, or Subaru becoming op, but power creep in the sense of only using some even more overpowered magic(being magically more powerful than return by death, which so far is kind of treated as horrific but also the most powerful authority we've seen in a way) for the purpose of solving a convoluted plot. It can be solved through logical connections instead of new magic.
Ben was completely justified with his idea of Minerva being her mother yet Anna just doesn’t believe him for a second and ngl it came across as mocking the idea
It is so crazy to me how every one, every reactor I've seen, calls him fucking "Geese." I don't understand how something so blatantly incorrect, to the point where it's said aloud by several different characters probably more than 50 times, viewed by hundreds of thousands of people, in a show that came out years ago and is most commonly consumed over the course of several weeks, is so memetically pervasive. God laughs.
I personally think we haven't met the mother since we don't even have candidates that could be Emilia's father. So far the only male elf we see is Archie and it doesn't look like he is the father
There is a pretty good candidate for Emilias father. That would be Puck before he was turned into an artificial spirit. And the best candidate for Emilias mother would be Minerva.
ReZero characters the first time you meet them. "This person is really interesting, but kinda psycho."
ReZero characters after learning their backstory. "My earlier opinions still apply, but I also now love them and want to protect them."
I don't if i will ever wanna protect Regulus lol
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 You don't ever want to protect Regulus? By that do you mean, you would feel an inclination to protect other characters, but are specifically choosing to exclude Regulus from that inclination? For what reason do you make this arbitrary distinction between him and other characters? Given that there is no personal history between you and this individual, as well as the absolute lack of context you have provided for this statement, I can only assume that you mean to imply that Regulus is to be valued lower than other people in the world. I'll have you know that Regulus is a decent, respectable member of society who has a job. It's not that I'm trying to say that people who have a job have more value than other people in this world, but I think almost everyone would agree that just existing as a decent member of society isn't any reason to put him under other people. In fact, by choosing to protect others but not him, one could say that a power imbalance is being created, in which Regulus has been placed at an unfair disadvantage compared to the other citizens of this society. In that sense, there is no one who could contest that your statement is uncalled for, and even goes so far as to encroach on Regulus's entitlement to not being persecuted by the environment he is in.
Yes, I do believe you are violating his rights.
@@sum11111honestly Regulus meme rants are incapable of getting old 😭 he literally sounds like an Internet troll so imitating him is perfect.
@@sum11111Dang😂
@@sum11111I was thinking "it ain't that deep bro" before realizing the joke, lol.
Your amazing discussions at the end of the episode always make my brain treble. DESU
They are....
Kinben desune☆
Keep in mind, we were told the barrier only traps those of half and half mized blood. When Emilia enters Sanctuary she passes put but Subaru and Otto don't. Meaning she is exactly 50/50
“Betelgeuse” has two pronunciations: ‘beh-tel-geh-oos’ (with the hard ‘g’), which is a more British/European pronunciation, and ‘beetle-juice’ which is a more American pronunciation. In our world, Betelgeuse is a red supergiant star in the constellation Orion (part of Orion’s belt); in recent years, it caused excitement in the astronomical field as it mysteriously dimmed. Betelgeuse was also a 1980s horror comedy starring Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder.
In Re: Zero there are several other characters named after stars: Regulus is the brightest star in the constellation Leo, and Subaru is the Japanese word for the Pleiades (which is why the Subaru car logo has seven stars). Aldebaran, a bright star, is also the name of the helmeted attendant of Priscilla, one of the candidates to become the next ruler of Lugunica.
Though you were trying to figure out who Emilia’s biological mom is, I doubt that it’s Satella (I haven’t read the novels so I don’t really know for sure) because Emilia is supposed to be a half elf/half human, and Satella is half elf/half human. If Emilia’s father is full elf, and Satella was her mother, Emilia would only be a quarter human.
The fact that Betelgeuse, a dimming star, is also known as the Hand of Orion makes sense why his authority is Unseen Hand.
beetle juice is not the american pronunciation, its just a nickname people gave him. betel- gyoose is the correct way to say, its not at all the european way.
And it's Petelgeuse Romanee-Conti, not 'Betelgeuse'
@@albatrosshangingshut up
@@chelronin7843 I think they meant that beetle juice is the american pronunciation of the star, not of the Rezero character. Also the Rezero character is spelled slightly different. His name is Petelgeuse, not Betelgeuse (the subs for season 1 got it wrong). Therefore the pronunciation is actually petel-gyoose. The part that makes the whole pronunciation thing really weird is the fact that his nickname is Guese and that is not pronounced gyoose but instead is pronounced juice.
Betelgeuse: We will meet again soon
Betelgeuse in season 1:...
Anna: Don't end the episode!
Me: You're gonna wish that's where they ended it.
Do you remember in season one when Emilia meet battleguesse? She crying.
she was crying moreso because she had to freeze him, which reminded her of the frozen statues
@@chelronin7843
She probably also had an unconscious memory of who he was to her.
So she doesn't know why, but she's sad she had to kill him.
"Return by birth!"
I can't with that statement, lol!
Reminds me of another reactor that called it "Return to Death" an ability that lets Subaru die when he gets killed
@@MrShadic999 PFFT--
This Season Just Slaps you every episode. I like these long deep discussions; I feel like I'm re-experiencing the greatness of this show as if I'm a light novel reader watching it again with people and hearing their opinions and having a deep discussion.
Remember in season 1 when Emilia had to put Betelgeuse down, she teared up. She couldn't consciously remember him, but every fiber of her body remembers him as he was. So as he passes away she couldn't help but cry. That episode hit so much harder when rewatching it.
😂😂 I loved all the theory with Satella as the mother for almost an hour only for them to realize in the end that genetics doesn't add up and now you don't know what to think
I also loved the eye analysis and...uhm Minerva would be a good candidate
Soemthing to keep in mind is that last week's episode, Tappei confirmed in a tweet when it came out that Echidna said it as a racial slur and not actual fact
@@bryangarcia5207 the best lies are those with a hint of truth.
@@bryangarcia5207you think I'd trust something the author says in a tweet? This author?
indeed. I think he said that to throw us off. Man I really hope Minerva is her mother@@handtomouth4690
Minerva died 300 years before Emilia was born
Your discussions are great though they went in some wild directions, and a lot more info is available next episode.
54:40 Remember that Betelgeuse is a spirit who can occupy the bodies of the spiritually adept, that's why he is older than some elves.
Why would they remember that? The show hasn't clarified that yet(next episode does in fact bring it up though. Most reactors miss it, but these guys definitely will notice it)
@@handtomouth4690the light novels had Subaru and Julius realise he's a spirit in arc 3, the anime doesn't explain how he possessed Subaru and others well enough. Whether it's right to say "remember" or not, it's absolutely necessary to know Petelgeuse is a spirit to completely understand him at this point(for example in arc 4 light novels when he cries meeting Emilia he's clearly talking about her "saving" him back when he was a spirit with barely any awareness, giving him a self and understanding of love emotion etc... This is impossible to understand on an equal basis with light novel readers if you don't learn that he's a spirit occupying human hosts).
Bold of you to assume that anyone definitively knows who Emilia's mom is atm.
But I'm impressed by the deductive skills at the end of the vid about the possibilities and probabilities. Excited to see the reaction to the later trial where this will get brought up again.
At first I suspected Puck was some sort of incarnation of Fortuna, but maybe Puck is actually her mom or dad. Given how Puck reacted to Emilia calling him/her dad (in the OVA IIRC), then just goes along with it.
I love catching an upload right as it's posted. It just makes my day.
Green hair is just normal there. Also, it's usually only suggested people are descended without our or their knowledge from the start through things like hair AND eyes combinations. Like Emilia has both in common with Fortuna, Satella, Felt is rumoured as surviving royalty because of her blond hair and crimson eyes, Reinhard and other Astreas have flame red hair and sky blue eyes, etc.
Them going through the individual witches to find Emilia's mother led to some very interesting discussion
Ben is a wizard for connecting so many dots I don't think the theories are dumb at all.
This is literally the best conversation i've ever seen from anime only's at this point in the anime on Emilia's heritage. There is no answer as of now.
I've read almost every re:zero media that's been translated and it still took me till after to read the Light novel adaptation (webnovel is slightly different and i read that first long before) and a certain conversation after the trials to connect those dots.
Betelguese is a spirit, which is why he is so old. Also, Emilia's father is an elf which means the mother is a human as Emilia is a half elf, so the mother can't be Satella as she's a half elf as well. Also, i just love how Regulus rants everytime he speaks 🤣
Aren’t these spoilers though?
@jmiguelhernandez1640
The part about Emilia's parents is not. When S2 was airing Tappei(author) made a tweet to go along with it. For example last week's episode he clarified Echidna used witches daughter as a racial slur and not an actual truth.
For this episode he clarified that Emilia indeed has a full elf father an full elf mother. We know she has to be half since Fortuna is full and therefore her brother is highly likely to be too. However we didn't know Emilia was half human for sure, there technically are other races that look extremely human but Tappei confirmed it to be a human mother
link the posts? super wanna read those @@bryangarcia5207
@@bryangarcia5207 Your right Emilia is probably the daughter of Puck and Minerva.
Emilia being 400 years old and having the physical and mental mind of a 7 year old 107 years ago is completely possible with new mechanics the story introduces later. Also its cut content as of the 3rd tea party but Minerva is confirmed to have a deep connection to protecting the Elves. She also dies in a trap, knowing it was a trap, in the hopes of saving who she could.
Puck made a contract with Echinda to become the beast of the end to watch over Emilia. That much is clear from Frozen bonds.
The crack theory I have is Satella and Emilia are twins. A rem and ram situation. But the implication of twins in re:zero is that twins are beings who share a soul.
I think Emilia could be a twin in the sense that Satella split off part of her soul (this ties into the aging thing, if you know you know I'm not posting spoilers here) and how Emilia being a vessel may not be a bad thing. If Fortuna knew about this Emilia could be a vessel and it could be a reunification with yourself rather than an oblivion.
This is spoilers but this is a theme Subaru will confront in Arc 6. He even says Roxas from Kingdom heart's line "I guess my summer vacation is over".
@@orsted4670Betelgeuse being a spirit, imo, was poorly handled in the anime. In the LN we know about this through Subaru's thought process on one of the last fights against Betelgeuse. On the anime it's more difficult to notice this bc it's implied that Subaru already knows when he introduces Julius as Betelgeuse natural enemy, bc Julius has a divine blessing of the spirits or something, he basically is a spirit tamer.
If I'm ever late to an autosave video, I'll bleed to death and turn into a raisin
I don't know if you guys would ever read this or not, but I very much hope you watch or give reaction to AnyNews "Re Zero Cut Content" on after watching every corresponding episode (watch Re Zero eps 2 x 22, then watch anynews re zero cut content eps 2 x 22)
Apparently there's quite a lot of things the anime cut that made us confused or misinterpret things, and watching his explanation helps understand the missing context without spoiling future episodes, it actually going to help you understand better when something happened out of context in the future.
And it's definitely very pleasing for us, your viewer, when you understand things better and can give proper reaction to it, instead of feeling confused at the moment.
they should read this comment :(
ughhhhh i cant wait another week for the next reaction this is such a good part 😭
Emilia is a half elf. She´s hold back by the barrier. Satella was an half elf. It´s been stated multiple times and it´s the reason Emilia is shunned as half-devil.
Fortuna is using "sister" to refer to her brothers wife. Emilias father is a full elf. Echidna uses "Witches daughter" as a slur.. so it doesn´t need to be taken too seriously. Though there is someone with similar eye shape to Emilia among the witches..
Geuse is using "kenzai".. which means "in good health". So it´s not the other "well".
Geuse was a good person!!
These forthcoming episodes are gonna be a field day for them
Once again, Matsuoka is so goooooooooooood!
Common Matsuoka W
It’s impossible for satella to be Emilia’s mother because satella is a half elf, a half elf + a human would result in a quarter elf if we go by that kind of standard. Or a half elf + a full elf would be 3/4 elf
Emilia is a half elf, so her father must be a elf and her motther a human =P
Most important fact people forget when teorizing about Emilia's origin
@@Rajapel98 It's always funny to me that people hear "witch's daughter" and immediately go back to the Satella theory. Why not one of the other 6 witches that we've met?
Well, maybe not Typhon. I don't like the implications of that possibility...
@@ben-san9677😂😂😂 Yeah, let's avoid the Typhoon or Daphne routes lol
@@ben-san9677 Why not Typhon? Her image in the graveyard could be an earlier form... just like Echidna. I mean, she's not because she's a psychopath but in theory
@@ben-san9677 Wait till next episode 😉
They aren’t ready
always love your discussions, thanks guys..
Right well where did I put those tissues?
My heart... bois I don't think I can watch too much of young Emilia. Gonna overload my fragile soul. *dies of cuteness*
Save those tissues for next episode.
don't kill trees for only tears... just wipe on your hand or some rewashable cloth. I just use my hands then just wash it@@OmniscientlyMe
YOU FINALLY GOT TO THE PART IVE BEEN WAITING ON:)
Omg, next episode 😳
it was specificly said emilia is exectly 50/50 elf-human because she cant leave the sanctuary
Im kinda salty they forgot Emilia being half-elf like Satella is kinda a big deal, so Satella cannot be her mother.
EDIT: ah, they realized 56:20 nice 😅
Return by Birth 😭
Chibi-Lia time
highly anticipating the next two episodes! :D
Yeah, unless we've been fed false info at some point, Satella can't be Emilia's mother due to the half-elf lineage and Sanctuary rules.
Regarding Geuse being older than an elf like Fortuna, we know from S1 that he can change bodies.
As for Shima, we learned that the copies of Ryuzu have to take turns guarding the Sanctuary because they are artificial beings that consume mana like spirits. So she's probably struggling to maintain her form at night instead of resting.
Till the end Betelguese just makes your brain tremble.... In season 1 in horror & in season 2 with pity
Okay, I've been patient for a long time, but now my strength is gone and I'm going to say this.
I'm watching the reaction with the translation into Russian using the Yandex auto-translator, and my God, I'm just in love with the fact that every time you say "Petelgeuse" the auto-translator translates it As "Battle Geese"
Things gotten interesting here, while waiting your reaction, Another channel Teeaboo recently started to watch re zero too. So if anyone still waiting next episode yall can just watch his as well.
In Japanese culture, for example, if your sister gets married, you call her husband a brother.
As Emilia father is Fortuna brother so he is mostly like a full blood elf so as his child is a half-elf her mother must had to be Full blooded human or at least not a elf, so Satella as also a half-elf CAN'T be her mother
Edit: also Satella tells to Subaru she loves him and ONLY him
Maaaan, you were so close to guarantee that Emilia has to have either 2 half-elf parents or one pure elf and one human parent. But you got stucked on "we don't know if she is exactly 50/50" when you actually got the exact indisputable proof that she is a 50/50 blooded. The sanctuary barrier affects her and it's supposed to only affect in that exact case!
His name is Petelgeuse... not Betelgeuse in the WN. Betelgeuse is a star like the other archbishops names. But Geuse name is P instead of B... The reason behind this is a spoiler according to the author himself.
Source i thought it was because in Japanese pronunciation it was said that way because of that...we know all the names has close ties to stars. But i don't see what changing B from p will do..its just the way Japanese pronunciation was translated
@@MrTimeattacker It's not because of pronunciation. In Japanese, his name is written as ペテルギウス・ロマネコンティ. It starts with ぺ (pe) and not べ (be).
About it there being a reason in-story for this, I wasn't able to find a source, since it's probably from a very old tweet, but it's a very well-known fact in the community.
And now we begin to get the background of Emilia and her last few days before waking up with no memory of who she is.
It’s done perfectly and lil’ Emilia is cute as a button, the reveal of Geuse is such a damn shaking one and when you guys see what sent him over the edge, oh god is it gonna change how you see him.
Bits to note, it’s 400 years in the past, it’s around the same time as the Sanctuary was being built apparently and a lot of things outside of these safe havens were apparently dangerous. A lot to consider.
I also think Emilia's mom could be a human. Her Dad is an Elf because his sister (Fortuna) is an Elf too and they both have silver hair. And Echidna herself call her witch's daughter which could be a sign that one of the other witches could be her mom or maybe a witch we don't know about.
Witch's daughter is also an insult that Emila has suffered for most of the latter part of her life and Echina hates her. It's not a reliable lore dump, even if it ends up being true.
On the "witch's daughter" thing: I haven't got any special insight into the source material (I'm an anime-only viewer at the moment), but I do think it's worth noting that "majo no musume" can translate less literally, because "musume" can mean "daughter" or just "girl" (e.g. the Monster Musume is just a series about monster girls). Given the tone of the rest of Echidna's dialogue in that scene, it would be entirely possible she was just referring to Emilia as "witch girl" as an extra layer of disrespect.
good old Battle-Geese, such a nice and energetic young man. Would be a shame if
Emilia is a half elf. Dince her father is an elf, her mother must be human. We know she is 50/50 because the barrier effects her.
Amazing discussion as always.
I wasn't sure how discussion will end but my god you actually arrived on the most prevalent theory that minerva is Emilia's mom or at least has very close ties to her....But knowing how re:zero is targeted towards heavy analytical readers...he might be baiting us, the other alternative is actually echidna herself.
Just to clarify timeline's
Eli-or Forest events :- 100 years ago basically these next 3 ep.
Sanctuary,roswall,beatrice,witches,satella devouring/sealing...etc : 400 years ago.
The big issue with minerva theory so far is that minerva supposedly died 400 years ago and at best child Emilia wouldn't be older than 50 years, so there is some time stretching there.
as clarified earlier Frozen witch was just a slur, but in that Emilia moment took it up as badge of honor because that's what villagers in frozen bonds called her. But echinda calling her frozen witch/ witch daughter could also be taken literally but just for theory crafting sake as always dialogues in re:zero has double/triple meaning especially how they keep getting re-contextualized.
Since it was confirmed this episode and in S1 as well, Yes geuse is a spirit and he specifically is a body hopping spirit which he used to great effect in S1,although he maintained this body in this ep tll what you see in S1 of him. Maybe that's what he means when he calls himself a sinner because he body snatches..? or could be something else..don't know we only got part of puzzle in this season for the events from years ago....rest will get filed up as story goes on...some questions/mysteries answered but more popped up.
Running theme in show but many individuals of great power are trying to achieve immortality for one reason or another,Regulus is no exception but its more a happy stance...although so far how they have achieved is different for each one of them which is very cool, regulus you will know how once his power will be revealed its closely tied to that.
They say half knowledge is worse than no knowledge , can be said for the anime adaptation as well....They don't fully explain or explain enough, imo if you can't sell it visually/direction wise then director shouldn't just give 1 off lines and think audience will read in between the lines, it worked in S1 but it doesn't work here
next episode HYPEEEEEE
Also for last week's episode, when the episode came out, the author(Tappei) clarified Echidna called her witches daughter as a racial slur and that it wasn't actually a fact
Oh wow, fantasy racial slurs are something...
You keep spreading this misinfo.
So yeah I found Tappei's tweets for the episode on a reddit discussion and no, Echidna does not call her witch's daughter as a slur. It. Makes. No. Sense. Echidna is an extremely important character, lying about her is just shit.
@@Pakapakachamait's not a racial slur he's lying about the author. Echidna's hatred and words to Emilia are blatantly signifying something we don't know.
Some of her weirdness about Emilia being a slut or something are a petty dig based on the fact she likely saw her whole argument with Subaru (I mean she doesn't have to watch outside of the trial because since they both take it she probably accessed both Emilia and Subaru's memories) and is critical of her reliance on Subaru(someone who loves her while she has not yet returned his feelings). It's very petty.
But she also gets emotional for deeper rooted reasons. Emilia in the novels frequently remarks in her thoughts she can't hate someone she doesn't know well enough, so Echidna must know /understand her well enough to be able to hate her. Whether this is because of accessing memories or things which happened in her life, wait and see, but her feelings and words are a mystery still.
@@siginotmylastname3969 I see, I see.
Then do you think there's a possibility that Satella has some sort of power where she can peak to the future OR her future self can show a memory from the future to the past, kind of like Eren?
Like Emilia is a vessel for Satella, maybe there's a universe or something where Emilia became Satella's vessel and all the memories from Emilia integrated to Satella, which may contribute to why Satella is so fixated with Subaru's existence?
oh yeah and there's chibi bits that you should take a look at as it's just pure comedy for Echidna
Anna is about to eat her words.
Up to date on Reddit the best theory was Minerva.
If you ask my theory I'm on the side, that it's a time dilemma theory.
400 years when the witches of sins died but it was 300 years after Emilia had lived so it can't be any of the witches of sins and we know Emilia was 114 years old (unconfirmed) based on the linear timeline. What if the time line wasn't Linear? Something reset the timeline as same as the power of envy. Which Emilia might exist in both timelines.
Remember how season 1 episode 1 Subaru died before he got Isekai (that flashback promised to that dead girl).
Apologies for the passionate rant!!!
I always argue against it because there's no reason to introduce a bigger loop for Subaru/Emilia/Satella so long as books of prophecy exist.
My argument also applies for the weird can x character loop before Subaru does/remember Subaru's deaths question(if you know it, I'm not saying it's weird because I disagree but because it has little plot relevance), trying not to spoil details. Books of prophecy are such an integral part of the plot which can explain every occurrence seen as a bigger timeloop. In addition to that, Emilia is called Satella's vessel and we have clones who were intended as Echidna's vessel, so Emilia actually being past/alternate Satella isn't satisfying explanation for those lines.
It's just not necessary to make Subaru's power less "OP" in that someone else can make him loop or can loop before him, because it isn't his power really but Satella's. And Satella is canonically only matched in power by Reinhardt, plus potentially controls Subaru's loops to an extent already, plus actually wants him to remember her, so if anyone were to result in a meta loop or alternate timeline thing it would be her and this would start contradicting her current love for Subaru.
I WILL pose an argument against one of my points though lol. When Petelgeuse called her a vessel I'm pretty sure he said for the "witch" NOT Satella, and those are separate people to many characters. It could be Emilia and Satella are both vessels in this sense, so Emilia becoming Satella/being alternate Satella wouldn't ruin it or be contradictory. But I still think everything in the plot will be more satisfyingly concluded if it doesn't introduce elements like alternate universes Subaru has nothing to do with or meta loops. Tappei's a good enough writer to answer it all with the currently existing magical elements, which avoids a potential power creep issue. Not power creep as in villains becoming op, or Subaru becoming op, but power creep in the sense of only using some even more overpowered magic(being magically more powerful than return by death, which so far is kind of treated as horrific but also the most powerful authority we've seen in a way) for the purpose of solving a convoluted plot. It can be solved through logical connections instead of new magic.
I support the Minerva mention BUT it's a little spoilery for later episodes.
I never watched Re:Zero before
If the barrier works only on 50/50, but Emilia's father is an Elf, could her mother be a half elf.
Ben was completely justified with his idea of Minerva being her mother yet Anna just doesn’t believe him for a second and ngl it came across as mocking the idea
There was a question to me i been wants to know. Did emila knows barusu killed guess?
Betelguese ,,,, what a character right???
Letssss goooo
It is so crazy to me how every one, every reactor I've seen, calls him fucking "Geese."
I don't understand how something so blatantly incorrect, to the point where it's said aloud by several different characters probably more than 50 times, viewed by hundreds of thousands of people, in a show that came out years ago and is most commonly consumed over the course of several weeks, is so memetically pervasive. God laughs.
Threat incoming !
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The lore dump has arrived!
I personally think we haven't met the mother since we don't even have candidates that could be Emilia's father. So far the only male elf we see is Archie and it doesn't look like he is the father
There is a pretty good candidate for Emilias father. That would be Puck before he was turned into an artificial spirit. And the best candidate for Emilias mother would be Minerva.
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