For the nexus game the math works out like this. 11 power from left lane gets sent to mid lane. Iron Man then contributes 3 more power. 14 power then gets doubled to 28 power mid lane which gets sent back left lane and on right lane. Right lane receives both 11 power from left lane and 28 power from mid lane for 39 power from other lanes, then contributes 7 power from its own lane for 46 power total. That 46 power then gets sent back left lane, being added to the 11 power and 28 power from the other two lanes for 85 power left lane. Mid lane also receives that 46 power which Iron Man then doubles to 92 power added to the 28 power in that lane already for 120 power. Left Lane is 11+28+46=85 Mid Lane is (11+3+46)*2=120 Right Lane is 11+28+7=46
You did that math so much more simply than I did. I still hate the solution though because the power mid lane passes right gets doubled, added to, sent back, and doubled again. It feels really dumb.
@@MathMischief Incorrect. The 14 gets doubled to 28 before being sent to the right location. Then it gets added to and sent back as a 46 which then gets doubled again. 14x2 is more than half of the power behind that 46 that gets doubled. Game is jank.
Mirror dimension does it at the start of the turn so assumedly it should work this way if its to the left of “Flooding” and should work the way Legion does if it’s to the right. The game probably goes through the locations to update them in order of appearance though instead of a strict left to right, so Flooding always updates last. That being said they definitely should adjust Legion so that he turns them into “new” flooding locations like Storm does, would be more fun for other locations with states like the raft
I thought that interaction was intended. Not because it makes sense, but because flooded location is unfun when you don't get any warning about it. Maybe they will change it because players will complain about having to play against this combo, but Legion kind of sucks without it. I forsee changes coming to this card one way or another.
I think the worst part is that it’s the turn 6 being denied. You lose over a quarter of your total “mana” through the course of a normal game (6/21 goes unspent)
@@DD-ym3nk Yes, but at least you still had an option to play around with something even if that killed your power output, you could also selectively play cards if you were afraid of Sandman or Wave (I haven't seen Sandman very frequently right now despite how strong Bounce was, pretty odd really). I think Legion is absolutely a gimmick tech card, but if anyone finds a way to make it consistently useful it will be a nightmare to balance, I think this Flooding style deck is the tip of the iceberg for the abuse you could do with him honestly, though that abuse is probably dependent on hot locations and the like. A simple fix would just be to have the Legion copies be first turn flooding, not second turn, so you could still play cards turn 6.
@@Dalek_genocide It's basically a much worse Galactus, because at least with the G-man you can play cards (unless they Spider-Man or Doctor Octopus of course). But this is very much the issue I had with the traditional Galactus deck (which is why I only play T6 Galactus) that was based around denying your opponent any chance to play (which just isn't good for getting cubes anyway), and while control should be a part of the game archetypes, control should never let you shutdown all lanes to the point that your opponent can't do anything at all on the last turn through their own power, shit locations is one thing, but this deck can consistently shut down the entire board, which is insane.
He's not more of a problem than storm juggernaut. But this deck’s horrendous. It definitely needs work. Every deck out scales it. Even with no turn 6 the enemy has more power than you can get.
its time to run rhino boys! i've been doing this in my surfer list. Ever since Magik is seen everywhere. Turn 6 Rhino Surfer BAM. people dont see it coming. Rhino meta baby! And for legion, try to get prio and break the flooding location. BAM DONE. We back in business baby
Magik was already pretty popular before legion released, I'm sensing that both Magik and SWitch will gain even more popularity to counter the potential "no fun" meta that was once dominated by galactus players.
The magic bait and switch I can see becoming something! That was the only way I won with this deck. The storm combo for it really is pretty bad. You’ll lose far more than you’ll with like that. But I did win a few where they thought they had a turn 7 and floated turn 6 and tricked them, but other than that trying to get a storm legion combo to win, lost me 4 ranks.
Funny how you mention legion keeping people from playing their powerful cards on 6. Iceman, yondu, and ham already do that. Ham needs to be reworked to transform a random card considering it's a 2 cost, used to be a 1. Tech cards typically hover around the 3-5 cost, and ham is one of the best tech cards.
Different cards, different possible problems. Yondu sees play basically in destroy, and it's being cut from there too; he destroys the top card of your deck, which may very well be a 1 energy card, so I don't know how he stops you from playing your turn 6 (unless we're talking about decks that run Chavez, which often include her just to make the deck more consistent). Iceman can't hit turn 6 plays. He can be a frustrating card, but he doesn't stop you from playing a 6 energy card. Ham is very strong, but it only hits your highest energy card in hand, so while frustrating, it doesn't necessarily delete you turn 6. Legion, on the other hand, has the power to lock all your lanes, so that no cards can be played. It's not just his interaction with storm either: locations such as central park, or savage lands sometimes can have the same effect. While the cards you mentioned hit other cards, restricting your plays, Legions affects the entire board. Sometimes he's a Prof X for all three locations, with more power and more flexibility. I think those things are pretty different
It’s gonna be like zabu Spider-Man, strong at top but not played enough to warrant quick change. Once cozy or hoogland do a video on it, it’ll be all over ladder and then SD will hopefully fix it
It’s not that strong. Those were so toxic and strong but unless it’s like an ultron, bounce, or shiri-shulk-task deck, you’re going to get out powered immediately and probably won’t catch up! You have to have more good luck than bad to make this deck even remotely work, and it’s just not a better deck than standard lockdown. The DD frofX, storm Jugg, or even just Spider-Man himself is a stronger and more toxic combo! I played for 2 hours and went from rank 88 to rank 84. Destroy, thanos, HE, just about everything beat it easily. The only times I won was when they played a magic, then floated turn 6 or played something like a sera or shuri alone, and I turned their magic off to end the game. An already do able move with storm.
So I foolishly took some advice to buy S4 cards with tokens wherever possible so I bought Legion. Then I saw that the spotlight display was no longer showing Legion which meant I thought I was safe from pulling his variant, opened a spotlight and got... his variant. Opened another and got Stegron. I am now many, many, many tokens away from getting the pinned Thanos I have in my shop and am not massively happy with the results of my first two spotlight openings. I thought I understood how the spotlight caches worked but seeing the display no longer showing Legion short circuited my brain in that regard I guess. Hopefully I can earn another one or two in the next few weeks. There's not many coming up that I'm overly interested in but the ones later in August seem pretty cool, the Nebula/X-23 week seems like one I wanna have 4 for if I can.
Before legion came out, every content creator told me this is not how it would work, and a legion played on turn 5 flooding would make everything turn 6 still flooding and not flooded...... THEY LIED TO ME.
May be a problem? I think it's certainly going to be and they even said they're going to monitor it. There's no way it's not getting changed, this is just dumb.
One solution for this could be that the card changes not the 2 remaining positions, but only one (randomly). Or.. that the card changes the 3 positions into 3 different ones... If not, the game is going to die very soon.
I was so excited for legion and I'm so sad this is his meta, i never expected the card to be competitive but i did want it to be a silly fun card to throw in wacky locations like nexus or elysium
Gaming aside I hope you enjoying fatherhood! Im on two under 4 myself and gaming has more or less ended. My PC collects dust. It is 100% worth the trade off. Enjoy every minute of it! It really does fly by.
I got this card last night and its disruptive potential is so high I have been crushing all sorts of decks, it feels weird because I got this card for fun and most of my cards in the deck I am using him are the very bottom of the meta almost, but it turns out that sometimes locations are the biggest enemy of your opponent and if you can increase that downside it may crush your opponent or yourself. Either way it is quite hilarious, turning all locations into rickery bridge on turn 6 feels like such a funny prank lol just make sure you have at least 1 card in each location to maximize chance you will win or tie lol (lets be honest it is 90% of the time going to be a tie lol) I i am loving this card.
I had a good one where my opponent played a shuri and I turned everything into altar of death. I was winning the other lanes so it was fun to a 28 power redskull explode!
Legion looks like old leader, leech (still broken btw), galactus, etc... If it becomes common ill just stop playing for a few months like i did before and wait for changes.
The deck will probably never be a huge success on the ladder since it wins on turn 5. It's the same problem the Wong-White Tiger deck has, every win is a retreat from the opponent which is bad for cubes. Many of the more successful decks are the ones that turn the game around on turn 6 since it opens a lot of opportunity for surprise and snap wins.
Yes, I ended up in the vid! (I was NotSoSerious). I expected your Jeff but still gave you the win knowing it will be content. And I agree with you, Legion lockdown will be a problem and will present a good shakeup in the ever-changing meta. GG!
This interaction getting released as is, does not give me faith in their new playtest team. Supposedly a shift after Zabu, and takes 4-6 months to show . Well now it’s been that long, and I’m certain this team would have released Zabu as is if not even stronger
There are already Rhino and red stone (and snowguard), magic, scarlet witch and your own storm. That are a counterplay. Plus you'll need to draw 1,5 specific cards out of the deck by turn 4. So I don't see it as a huge problem.
I was waiting on the store reset to claim the free credits. soon as this dude showed up I bought him IMMEDIATELY, even though I now have start saving all over again to buy mu pinned Kitty (I missed the free one). and it seems everyone and their mother had the same Storm+Legion combo in mind
By the wording, Legion working this way with Flooding instead of how Mirror Dim works makes sense. Mirror Dimension happens start of turn and locations seem to update in order of appearance so Mirror will always copy Flooding before it turns to Flooded, and then doesn’t update itself. Legion should be changed to turn the other locations into “new” copies of the location you play him at, so that they’re fresh floodings.
Today I formatted my computer. When I installed Marvel Snap again, I saw all my progress was lost, 561 hours. And since I am an f2p player, I worked my ass off to reach 5.990 collection level. Since I didn't ever make a Google or iOS account, I don't know if it can be fixed. But seeing how stupid the game has become with H.E., Legion, Jean Grey, the fact that if you don't play specific cards you lose by default against Red Skull and Taskmaster, also how everyone plays the same exact deck after rank 100, I don't know if it's worth stressing about.
@@jeffsenecal4168 do you know who should I talk to? Because when I tried to reach support, it has only iOS and Android support. I'd really like to get back to the game after some more nerfs/buffs.
i mean, legion was bound to play with storm, there's no strategic use without it. thankfully, magick is currently in the meta, which will easily be a counter
old galactus invalidate all your early game cards, and also make their knull more strong, legion its the oposite, he makes all early plays even more important
Watched TLSG's video on this deck, seems like it's going to turn people away from the game. I get you can play how you want but tedious high evo legion boring opponents in to submission isn't healthy imo. Plus I don't have nebula, Jeff, or high evo so I'm screwed either way
Boggles my mind that they literally removed the Spiderman + AbsMan combo because locking down 2 locations going into turn 6 was deemed toxic and not interactive. Then they turn around and make this combo. Genius.
This deck makes it look a lot scarier than it is. You can out scale and out power this deck so easily and it's very vulnerable to a killmonger. I mean unless they don't play for 4 turns you're going to lose like 90% of games. I lost 4 ranks! I wish I got to play against these not like opponents all hese streamers seem to get! Instead I just get HE players with amazing RNG
@xxZigxx Hmm. Not saying it's unbeatable. More confused they deemed a combo that did it 3 cards and only impacted 2 lanes as being toxic. Yet there is an easier combo that shuts down all of turn 6. It's a stupid idea. Magik used to be able to be played on 6 but extending the game suddenly on 6 was considered toxic. That's when she got bumped down to turn 5. It's less of a comment on the power of the card and more of a concern on its overall design given past adjustments to avoid this literal situation
@@WadeWilsonKingofAsgard cuz it’s no where near as bad. Spider-Man on his own is still more toxic and way worse than this combo. Dare devil prof X is way more toxic and strong. This combo isn’t good. It won’t be meta at all unless they make him 4 power or something. This card isn’t going to be good and will only be played for power really. If they nerf his power he’s going to be another snow guard. The reason they had to nerf the Spider-Man absorb combo was because it was really strong! It’s was a feels bad that almost always ended with your loss when your opponent played it. If my opponent played this, I’m snapping because there’s almost no way I lose because it’s just that bad.
@@xxZigxx Naw, it is just as, in their words 'unfun'. They literally nerfed a much harder combo to pull off, which only locked down 2 lanes. Zabu + Spiderman + AbsMan. Because blocking two lanes on turn 6 was considered toxic and not interactive, that specific combo was not stronger. They then make an easier to pull off combo which shuts down the most impactful turn for most decks. Keep in mind, this isnt an argument of 'Can it be countered?' Every deck/card in this game has some sort of counter. Galactus, as an example, had a dozen different ways to counter him. It is more of the design thought behind it that is honestly concerning. Spiderman + Absman + Zabu, locks 2 lanes, too strong per their own words. Storm + Legion, locks 3 lanes, blocking out one of the most impactful turns is somehow ok. Magik was changed from being able to be played on turn 6, because a surprise turn 7 on the most impactful turn of the game was too strong, again, their words. Galactus and Spiderman combo, blocking out turn 6, was called out for being unfun and too strong. Hell, their own words on spider-man in general -Spider-Man’s ability to prevent the opponent from playing a card at his location on the next turn makes him frustrating to play against-. So I am concerned when they go and make a 3 lane spiderman-esque combo. Based on adjustments of the past, the fact they released him, as he is, is the concerning part. And Legion himself being 8 power on release is crazy. Magik, Absman, Spiderman, Galactus, Storm, Rhino, Prof X, etc, cards that shift locations and/or lockout the board state are generally speaking a tempo loss to make up for their effect. He is not a tempo loss. He is 1 power away from being Chavez. This isnt a 'I cant beat this/this deck is unbeatable' comment. It is a concern on the design and release of the card given every single adjustment they have made to the game in relation to similar cards.
@@WadeWilsonKingofAsgard dude this is a harder combo to pull off in only that you have to have the cards by turn 5, but even so it’s not worth it. Those other combos were so much more toxic and unfun! This isn’t anywhere near it! Because it can be countered but more often than not it won’t matter because it’s not strong enough. Unless you get a perfect setup and your opponent has a rough start, it’s probably going to lose. It might work against bots and but it’s not good. And those other lock down combos are way stronger. The reason they had to nerf the other unfun combos was because they were unfun and often won! Zabu spider absman you locked off 2 lanes but also you could still play. With the exception of Jeff you’re done turn 5 and you hope floating wins it for you. But it’s probably not because all the power in your deck relays on cars that will most likely be destroyed by turn 5 or are just not strong enough. It’d be a different story if you could play and your opponent can’t but your both locked in. It’s not that strong. It will still feel annoying to lose to but it’s not strong enough that I see him getting a nerf for a long while unless a far worse combo is found. As is I do t see this car getting much play other than a 5-8. Or maybe as a clutter card if you play it on a squirrel location or something. And if you still are concerned this card is too toxic, then I implore you to play it! Lose all your cubes and rest assured it’s a mid card.
I’m crushing with legion…. Not using this deck but the lock out component is definitely apart of it. The only deck it struggles with is high evolutionary but even still my deck has beaten it the tempo of HE.
I get turn 6 players that get frustrated with this, sera and bounce and surfer... But I have been bullied by those decks for the past few weeks especially bounce... so Im kinda okay with this to bully em back
Baby toots are all fun until they discover solids and become baby bombs that defy gravity, straight up the diaper to the back of their neck while sitting down.
Legion needs to be changed to change other locations to NEW copies of the location. So fresh floods. Then could be used on things like NEW draw a card add a card Add power this turn etc.
I said it already on an other channel, but i dont like this card, yes you can get easy wins with this, but play against it will make people mad, and quitting the game literally. Control was already super toxic sometimes. But this in on a whole other lvl. Because this is only 1 card that can ruin your whole game, but on lockdown decks, you need at least 2 ( prof + storm, or spider + storm etc) but this is a 1 card game ender. This card will be nerfed im pretty sure. I hope it will only change 1 place after the nerf, and not both (english is not my main form of speaking, so sry for any stupid typo)
@@pogchamp3101 this only punishes the opponent if they don’t play. So if they play decent cards every turn, you’ll probably lose. This would really only work on like a bounce deck or shuri-shulk-task style where you skip turn 5. Or an ultron deck where you need him to dump that power last turn. Galactus really sucked because if you didn’t draw the counters to him, then you needed to not play so the knull wouldn’t get huge, but then they could also just not play Galactus and spread their power instead and the. You look like a fool stacked in a lane. Galactus was way more toxic because he was so effective! Same with zabu Spider-Man absman! This is just a less effective lockdown deck. DD ProfX or storm jugg is still just better and more toxic.
For the nexus game the math works out like this.
11 power from left lane gets sent to mid lane. Iron Man then contributes 3 more power. 14 power then gets doubled to 28 power mid lane which gets sent back left lane and on right lane. Right lane receives both 11 power from left lane and 28 power from mid lane for 39 power from other lanes, then contributes 7 power from its own lane for 46 power total. That 46 power then gets sent back left lane, being added to the 11 power and 28 power from the other two lanes for 85 power left lane. Mid lane also receives that 46 power which Iron Man then doubles to 92 power added to the 28 power in that lane already for 120 power.
Left Lane is 11+28+46=85
Mid Lane is (11+3+46)*2=120
Right Lane is 11+28+7=46
Math checks out - mostly because it avoids doubling an already doubled 14 points. That's trippy.
Thats for breaking it down. Game gets a little wonky with some locations being duplicated
This also needs waaay more likes xD
You did that math so much more simply than I did. I still hate the solution though because the power mid lane passes right gets doubled, added to, sent back, and doubled again. It feels really dumb.
@@MathMischief Incorrect. The 14 gets doubled to 28 before being sent to the right location. Then it gets added to and sent back as a 46 which then gets doubled again. 14x2 is more than half of the power behind that 46 that gets doubled. Game is jank.
I`m so glad Regis found himself a co-host.
Kids gonna be a genius strategist snap player one day 😢
Made himself a co host
he's the co-host
Even the cute co-host sees how this is broken and wonders have the devs actually tested this card?!
Most adorable co-host
That's weird that works with Storm, because the mirror dimension location when it copies flooding gives an extra turn before it floods.
it's intended. The mirror dimension is apparently bugged
Mirror dimension does it at the start of the turn so assumedly it should work this way if its to the left of “Flooding” and should work the way Legion does if it’s to the right. The game probably goes through the locations to update them in order of appearance though instead of a strict left to right, so Flooding always updates last. That being said they definitely should adjust Legion so that he turns them into “new” flooding locations like Storm does, would be more fun for other locations with states like the raft
I thought that interaction was intended. Not because it makes sense, but because flooded location is unfun when you don't get any warning about it. Maybe they will change it because players will complain about having to play against this combo, but Legion kind of sucks without it. I forsee changes coming to this card one way or another.
Storm + Legion combo definitely needs to go away
I straight up didn't notice till I heard the coo at 0:41 and my heart melted
same
Lol didn't either because I came straight to comments and read this at almost the exact moment. Had to do a double take lol
OMG THE BABY IS SO CUTE 🥰
I think the worst part is that it’s the turn 6 being denied. You lose over a quarter of your total “mana” through the course of a normal game (6/21 goes unspent)
Which in turn denies most of the truly significant game winning plays. Like just imagine doing this against a Sera Miracle/Bounce Deck...
@AveSicarius but you could already do it in a much healthier way with sandman, wave on turn 5, etc
@@DD-ym3nk
Yes, but at least you still had an option to play around with something even if that killed your power output, you could also selectively play cards if you were afraid of Sandman or Wave (I haven't seen Sandman very frequently right now despite how strong Bounce was, pretty odd really).
I think Legion is absolutely a gimmick tech card, but if anyone finds a way to make it consistently useful it will be a nightmare to balance, I think this Flooding style deck is the tip of the iceberg for the abuse you could do with him honestly, though that abuse is probably dependent on hot locations and the like. A simple fix would just be to have the Legion copies be first turn flooding, not second turn, so you could still play cards turn 6.
@@Dalek_genocide
It's basically a much worse Galactus, because at least with the G-man you can play cards (unless they Spider-Man or Doctor Octopus of course). But this is very much the issue I had with the traditional Galactus deck (which is why I only play T6 Galactus) that was based around denying your opponent any chance to play (which just isn't good for getting cubes anyway), and while control should be a part of the game archetypes, control should never let you shutdown all lanes to the point that your opponent can't do anything at all on the last turn through their own power, shit locations is one thing, but this deck can consistently shut down the entire board, which is insane.
This is worse then the zabu Spiderman lock down. It'll be changed.
The way Baby Regina watches you talk when you’re doing a deck Intro 🥺
As a father myself I am extremely proud of you for being able to work and care for you new baby simultaneously. You’re awesome Regis.
Let me guess, he will be fixed/nerfed after tons of ppl buy him in 1-2 weeks
He's not more of a problem than storm juggernaut. But this deck’s horrendous. It definitely needs work. Every deck out scales it. Even with no turn 6 the enemy has more power than you can get.
So apparently dealing with Twitch chat for so many years has made Regis very good at handling babies while working… Incredible.
its time to run rhino boys! i've been doing this in my surfer list. Ever since Magik is seen everywhere. Turn 6 Rhino Surfer BAM. people dont see it coming. Rhino meta baby! And for legion, try to get prio and break the flooding location. BAM DONE. We back in business baby
That legion on Atlantis by opponent is the best play I seen
Magik was already pretty popular before legion released, I'm sensing that both Magik and SWitch will gain even more popularity to counter the potential "no fun" meta that was once dominated by galactus players.
The magic bait and switch I can see becoming something! That was the only way I won with this deck. The storm combo for it really is pretty bad. You’ll lose far more than you’ll with like that. But I did win a few where they thought they had a turn 7 and floated turn 6 and tricked them, but other than that trying to get a storm legion combo to win, lost me 4 ranks.
I love how regina looks with so much interest when regis is talking 😂😂
Like all my viewers right? RIGHT???
Mb, you're completely right 😅😅
@@RegisKillbin damn right sir !
Sending the game to shadow realm
Funny how you mention legion keeping people from playing their powerful cards on 6. Iceman, yondu, and ham already do that. Ham needs to be reworked to transform a random card considering it's a 2 cost, used to be a 1. Tech cards typically hover around the 3-5 cost, and ham is one of the best tech cards.
Different cards, different possible problems. Yondu sees play basically in destroy, and it's being cut from there too; he destroys the top card of your deck, which may very well be a 1 energy card, so I don't know how he stops you from playing your turn 6 (unless we're talking about decks that run Chavez, which often include her just to make the deck more consistent). Iceman can't hit turn 6 plays. He can be a frustrating card, but he doesn't stop you from playing a 6 energy card. Ham is very strong, but it only hits your highest energy card in hand, so while frustrating, it doesn't necessarily delete you turn 6.
Legion, on the other hand, has the power to lock all your lanes, so that no cards can be played. It's not just his interaction with storm either: locations such as central park, or savage lands sometimes can have the same effect. While the cards you mentioned hit other cards, restricting your plays, Legions affects the entire board. Sometimes he's a Prof X for all three locations, with more power and more flexibility. I think those things are pretty different
I love the Regina intro, I hope it becomes a frequent thing
Spoilers: not a single opponent had Jeff. 😅
hope they dont nerf it dude , is the most fun combo
Legion coming out is a huge buff for Jeff
its funny enjoying the gameplay and rooting for fun for Regis and opponents, but also secretly wanting legion to lose so this doesnt become meta 😅😂
It’s gonna be like zabu Spider-Man, strong at top but not played enough to warrant quick change.
Once cozy or hoogland do a video on it, it’ll be all over ladder and then SD will hopefully fix it
It’s not that strong. Those were so toxic and strong but unless it’s like an ultron, bounce, or shiri-shulk-task deck, you’re going to get out powered immediately and probably won’t catch up! You have to have more good luck than bad to make this deck even remotely work, and it’s just not a better deck than standard lockdown. The DD frofX, storm Jugg, or even just Spider-Man himself is a stronger and more toxic combo! I played for 2 hours and went from rank 88 to rank 84. Destroy, thanos, HE, just about everything beat it easily. The only times I won was when they played a magic, then floated turn 6 or played something like a sera or shuri alone, and I turned their magic off to end the game. An already do able move with storm.
I had to drop an immediate like for the new co-host.
yo! Checking in from the game at 28 minutes! That was an amazing round, Regis! Thanks for the great game!
I wonder how crazy it would be if you put lockjaw and legion 😂
Is this a second breathe for MBAKU?????
So I foolishly took some advice to buy S4 cards with tokens wherever possible so I bought Legion. Then I saw that the spotlight display was no longer showing Legion which meant I thought I was safe from pulling his variant, opened a spotlight and got... his variant. Opened another and got Stegron. I am now many, many, many tokens away from getting the pinned Thanos I have in my shop and am not massively happy with the results of my first two spotlight openings. I thought I understood how the spotlight caches worked but seeing the display no longer showing Legion short circuited my brain in that regard I guess. Hopefully I can earn another one or two in the next few weeks. There's not many coming up that I'm overly interested in but the ones later in August seem pretty cool, the Nebula/X-23 week seems like one I wanna have 4 for if I can.
Before legion came out, every content creator told me this is not how it would work, and a legion played on turn 5 flooding would make everything turn 6 still flooding and not flooded...... THEY LIED TO ME.
I've played 8 matches with this deck and not 1 time have I had Legion and Storm playable at the right times. I swear RNG hates me.
May be a problem? I think it's certainly going to be and they even said they're going to monitor it. There's no way it's not getting changed, this is just dumb.
One solution for this could be that the card changes not the 2 remaining positions, but only one (randomly).
Or.. that the card changes the 3 positions into 3 different ones...
If not, the game is going to die very soon.
This will definetly get nerfed. Every card that has denied turn 6 being impactful (aero, leader) has gotten nerfed
I like the idea of copying limbo also so people cannot surprise end the game,
I was so excited for legion and I'm so sad this is his meta, i never expected the card to be competitive but i did want it to be a silly fun card to throw in wacky locations like nexus or elysium
So they just don't want us to play the game? Okay...
Gaming aside I hope you enjoying fatherhood! Im on two under 4 myself and gaming has more or less ended. My PC collects dust. It is 100% worth the trade off. Enjoy every minute of it! It really does fly by.
Baby gon' toot.
I got this card last night and its disruptive potential is so high I have been crushing all sorts of decks, it feels weird because I got this card for fun and most of my cards in the deck I am using him are the very bottom of the meta almost, but it turns out that sometimes locations are the biggest enemy of your opponent and if you can increase that downside it may crush your opponent or yourself. Either way it is quite hilarious, turning all locations into rickery bridge on turn 6 feels like such a funny prank lol just make sure you have at least 1 card in each location to maximize chance you will win or tie lol (lets be honest it is 90% of the time going to be a tie lol) I i am loving this card.
I had a good one where my opponent played a shuri and I turned everything into altar of death. I was winning the other lanes so it was fun to a 28 power redskull explode!
baby gag reel = bonus engagement. I'm all for this. She's super cute. Grats again and a billion times over.
Every snap creator/streamer is playing this but no one else has a baby
Legion looks like old leader, leech (still broken btw), galactus, etc...
If it becomes common ill just stop playing for a few months like i did before and wait for changes.
Counters to this meta are scarlet witch, magik, cosmo and rhino played into stormed locations if you have initiative
The deck will probably never be a huge success on the ladder since it wins on turn 5. It's the same problem the Wong-White Tiger deck has, every win is a retreat from the opponent which is bad for cubes. Many of the more successful decks are the ones that turn the game around on turn 6 since it opens a lot of opportunity for surprise and snap wins.
This card leaked as a 5-7 did they not think negating 6 costs, Bounce and Sera was strong enough? I really don't want to see this become popular.
Yes, I ended up in the vid! (I was NotSoSerious). I expected your Jeff but still gave you the win knowing it will be content. And I agree with you, Legion lockdown will be a problem and will present a good shakeup in the ever-changing meta. GG!
I'm glad you point out how toxic this card can be and how bad it could be for the game.
Added on it is how Jeff has stayed Series 5....
More Cohost videos with Regina please
This interaction getting released as is, does not give me faith in their new playtest team. Supposedly a shift after Zabu, and takes 4-6 months to show . Well now it’s been that long, and I’m certain this team would have released Zabu as is if not even stronger
Second Dinner really said "What if Zabu + Spider-Man but worse?"
Oh my God and everyone is gonna have him because they're chasing HE and Darkhawk
Feel guilty for the Absorbing Spider days… but typically hate easy win low setup combos like this
Came here to see how legion works with nexus and you didn’t disappoint, it looks broken tho.
There are SO MANY counters to this play style ive been cleaning up
Nebula shouldn’t grow if you can’t play a card in the location like Jean
It will be very frustrating at first and then become the regular announce of the goblins viper hood void and galactus. You always can retreat.
Cosmo is gonna make a big comeback in the meta
Who ever at SD thought this was a good idea needs to reevaluate their priorities.
There are already Rhino and red stone (and snowguard), magic, scarlet witch and your own storm. That are a counterplay. Plus you'll need to draw 1,5 specific cards out of the deck by turn 4. So I don't see it as a huge problem.
I was waiting on the store reset to claim the free credits. soon as this dude showed up I bought him IMMEDIATELY, even though I now have start saving all over again to buy mu pinned Kitty (I missed the free one).
and it seems everyone and their mother had the same Storm+Legion combo in mind
My wife says your baby is adorable and now is telling me we need another kid
I was only half watching at 24:51 and thought Legion/Misty night had a wacky on play sound effect I hadn't heard before lol
I noticed that too. Another grunt triggers after the Magik was played soon after?!?
More baby outtakes please! Brought a huge smile to my face.!
You need to play a deck with only baby variant cards.
Didn’t even realise Legion was out and the first time I encountered him someone used this play on me.
I feel a simple change would be that storm locations are flooding next turn not flooded
Great. More High Evo pass the turn fun. Just the type of meta people love. :)
Yeah, totally focus on you and not the uber cute baby
That Agatha twist ending
By the wording, Legion working this way with Flooding instead of how Mirror Dim works makes sense. Mirror Dimension happens start of turn and locations seem to update in order of appearance so Mirror will always copy Flooding before it turns to Flooded, and then doesn’t update itself. Legion should be changed to turn the other locations into “new” copies of the location you play him at, so that they’re fresh floodings.
I think the card would be a lot healthier if it did that, and fully expect that change to come soon.
Today I formatted my computer. When I installed Marvel Snap again, I saw all my progress was lost, 561 hours. And since I am an f2p player, I worked my ass off to reach 5.990 collection level.
Since I didn't ever make a Google or iOS account, I don't know if it can be fixed.
But seeing how stupid the game has become with H.E., Legion, Jean Grey, the fact that if you don't play specific cards you lose by default against Red Skull and Taskmaster, also how everyone plays the same exact deck after rank 100, I don't know if it's worth stressing about.
honestly if you found a jumping off point and you're happier, take it, but just follow where the fun is for you :D
Yes your play is saved through SNAP s servers and with ur user ID they can get all ur info back to u
@@jeffsenecal4168 do you know who should I talk to? Because when I tried to reach support, it has only iOS and Android support. I'd really like to get back to the game after some more nerfs/buffs.
I like how you narrate your thought process. It’s actually helpful. You’re probably the closest to being able to follow blind.
This is going to be so toxic when that location that stops you retreating is in the game
That's a thing?
9:54 why would someone in their sane mind play negative on 3 in a location that is not murderworld
The only time you see a turn 4 storm will be for this. So you know to cosmo that storm lane on turn 5
Also gotta keep priority to stop it, sigh.
This is gonna be a rough few weeks.
i see this deck literally everywhere in conquest it’s horrible 😂
Should’ve snapped game 1 lol
i mean, legion was bound to play with storm, there's no strategic use without it. thankfully, magick is currently in the meta, which will easily be a counter
Maybe he should be a 5/9. Adding another path of counterplay through Shang Chi?
He isn’t ongoing, he is on reveal so it doesn’t matter if he dies, game is still over.
@@zackeryh250 oh right mb
Note to self: never legion a nexus
Sorry i didn't hear a thing you said regis. baby regina is too cute.
Legion gives me galactus vibes. I find it toxic yet stupid at the same time 😂
The mixed of Galactus,Spiderman but can be better with any good location
old galactus invalidate all your early game cards, and also make their knull more strong, legion its the oposite, he makes all early plays even more important
How they want to nerf this ? LoL
Finally we see Regina! ❤
Watched TLSG's video on this deck, seems like it's going to turn people away from the game. I get you can play how you want but tedious high evo legion boring opponents in to submission isn't healthy imo. Plus I don't have nebula, Jeff, or high evo so I'm screwed either way
Boggles my mind that they literally removed the Spiderman + AbsMan combo because locking down 2 locations going into turn 6 was deemed toxic and not interactive. Then they turn around and make this combo. Genius.
This deck makes it look a lot scarier than it is. You can out scale and out power this deck so easily and it's very vulnerable to a killmonger. I mean unless they don't play for 4 turns you're going to lose like 90% of games. I lost 4 ranks! I wish I got to play against these not like opponents all hese streamers seem to get! Instead I just get HE players with amazing RNG
@xxZigxx Hmm. Not saying it's unbeatable. More confused they deemed a combo that did it 3 cards and only impacted 2 lanes as being toxic. Yet there is an easier combo that shuts down all of turn 6. It's a stupid idea. Magik used to be able to be played on 6 but extending the game suddenly on 6 was considered toxic. That's when she got bumped down to turn 5. It's less of a comment on the power of the card and more of a concern on its overall design given past adjustments to avoid this literal situation
@@WadeWilsonKingofAsgard cuz it’s no where near as bad. Spider-Man on his own is still more toxic and way worse than this combo. Dare devil prof X is way more toxic and strong. This combo isn’t good. It won’t be meta at all unless they make him 4 power or something. This card isn’t going to be good and will only be played for power really. If they nerf his power he’s going to be another snow guard. The reason they had to nerf the Spider-Man absorb combo was because it was really strong! It’s was a feels bad that almost always ended with your loss when your opponent played it. If my opponent played this, I’m snapping because there’s almost no way I lose because it’s just that bad.
@@xxZigxx Naw, it is just as, in their words 'unfun'. They literally nerfed a much harder combo to pull off, which only locked down 2 lanes. Zabu + Spiderman + AbsMan. Because blocking two lanes on turn 6 was considered toxic and not interactive, that specific combo was not stronger.
They then make an easier to pull off combo which shuts down the most impactful turn for most decks. Keep in mind, this isnt an argument of 'Can it be countered?' Every deck/card in this game has some sort of counter. Galactus, as an example, had a dozen different ways to counter him. It is more of the design thought behind it that is honestly concerning. Spiderman + Absman + Zabu, locks 2 lanes, too strong per their own words. Storm + Legion, locks 3 lanes, blocking out one of the most impactful turns is somehow ok. Magik was changed from being able to be played on turn 6, because a surprise turn 7 on the most impactful turn of the game was too strong, again, their words. Galactus and Spiderman combo, blocking out turn 6, was called out for being unfun and too strong. Hell, their own words on spider-man in general -Spider-Man’s ability to prevent the opponent from playing a card at his location on the next turn makes him frustrating to play against-. So I am concerned when they go and make a 3 lane spiderman-esque combo. Based on adjustments of the past, the fact they released him, as he is, is the concerning part. And Legion himself being 8 power on release is crazy. Magik, Absman, Spiderman, Galactus, Storm, Rhino, Prof X, etc, cards that shift locations and/or lockout the board state are generally speaking a tempo loss to make up for their effect. He is not a tempo loss. He is 1 power away from being Chavez.
This isnt a 'I cant beat this/this deck is unbeatable' comment. It is a concern on the design and release of the card given every single adjustment they have made to the game in relation to similar cards.
@@WadeWilsonKingofAsgard dude this is a harder combo to pull off in only that you have to have the cards by turn 5, but even so it’s not worth it. Those other combos were so much more toxic and unfun! This isn’t anywhere near it! Because it can be countered but more often than not it won’t matter because it’s not strong enough. Unless you get a perfect setup and your opponent has a rough start, it’s probably going to lose. It might work against bots and but it’s not good. And those other lock down combos are way stronger. The reason they had to nerf the other unfun combos was because they were unfun and often won! Zabu spider absman you locked off 2 lanes but also you could still play. With the exception of Jeff you’re done turn 5 and you hope floating wins it for you. But it’s probably not because all the power in your deck relays on cars that will most likely be destroyed by turn 5 or are just not strong enough. It’d be a different story if you could play and your opponent can’t but your both locked in. It’s not that strong. It will still feel annoying to lose to but it’s not strong enough that I see him getting a nerf for a long while unless a far worse combo is found. As is I do t see this car getting much play other than a 5-8. Or maybe as a clutter card if you play it on a squirrel location or something. And if you still are concerned this card is too toxic, then I implore you to play it! Lose all your cubes and rest assured it’s a mid card.
Skillmonger and Scarlet Witch to counter? Good use of 5 mana.
I love those outtakes 😂
I’m crushing with legion…. Not using this deck but the lock out component is definitely apart of it. The only deck it struggles with is high evolutionary but even still my deck has beaten it the tempo of HE.
I get turn 6 players that get frustrated with this, sera and bounce and surfer... But I have been bullied by those decks for the past few weeks especially bounce... so Im kinda okay with this to bully em back
Baby toots are all fun until they discover solids and become baby bombs that defy gravity, straight up the diaper to the back of their neck while sitting down.
Phoenix force multiple man decks obliterate this
That Atlantis play is what I wanted out of Legion. What we got is this deck.
Legion needs to be changed to change other locations to NEW copies of the location. So fresh floods. Then could be used on things like NEW draw a card add a card Add power this turn etc.
I said it already on an other channel, but i dont like this card, yes you can get easy wins with this, but play against it will make people mad, and quitting the game literally. Control was already super toxic sometimes. But this in on a whole other lvl. Because this is only 1 card that can ruin your whole game, but on lockdown decks, you need at least 2 ( prof + storm, or spider + storm etc) but this is a 1 card game ender.
This card will be nerfed im pretty sure. I hope it will only change 1 place after the nerf, and not both (english is not my main form of speaking, so sry for any stupid typo)
Honestly, just make it so that the flooded locations dont turn immedietely and its fine.
@@2laws144 that can make it better also, i agree ;)
@@2laws144 so storm is useless now very nice
its literally just making u skip 1 turn on turn 6 get real sometimes 2 if u dont have jeff and it has multiple easy counters
@@jewlliankaplan3946 How would that make storm useless? shes made to lock down 1 location. Not all 3.
Regis at some point I gotta hear the baby voice you use to talk to Regina. You should do a 10 hour stream someday in only baby voice.
Snap Dads! let's go! Just grabbed him I am cackling lol
This combo is no worse than a Glactus play
It’s far worse! As in it’s bad! Like galactus was effective, where this deck really isn’t.
Galactus punished you for playing a lot of cards because of Knull. This combo loses if you play a lot of cards.
@@pogchamp3101 this only punishes the opponent if they don’t play. So if they play decent cards every turn, you’ll probably lose. This would really only work on like a bounce deck or shuri-shulk-task style where you skip turn 5. Or an ultron deck where you need him to dump that power last turn. Galactus really sucked because if you didn’t draw the counters to him, then you needed to not play so the knull wouldn’t get huge, but then they could also just not play Galactus and spread their power instead and the. You look like a fool stacked in a lane. Galactus was way more toxic because he was so effective! Same with zabu Spider-Man absman! This is just a less effective lockdown deck. DD ProfX or storm jugg is still just better and more toxic.
If legion gets any more common im going back to high evo over living tribunal he ruins my living tribunal deck
I’ve seen this deck 5 times in the 90’s trying to climbing to infinite
I could do without this poison
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This video is so good! Prolly my favorite yet. The novelty of storm legion is so fun to watch right now. That might wear off tho lol
Every Marvel snap youtuber has played this deck so I'd say it would get boring to watch pretty fast
@@exdee__ that’s possible but today it is pure gold. I have yet to run into this list online yet too so that’s also a good sign