So an important note Anton pointed out is, yes to the observer (far enough away for time to be unaffected by the black hole) someone or something may appear to be slowing down to a stop (or close to) in time but for the object or person, nothing changes. I love space, more I think about it the more my mind gets blown.
Yep. You'd essentially experience "stopped" time, so you'd basically see the entire universe end before you very eyes... shortly before dying to the black hole's gravity ripping you apart of course.
So if the space time around a black hole spinning at near light speed also rotates at near light speed as u said , will the space time around the earth also rotate at the rate of rotation of the earth
Good job man ! Really enjoyed that video :) I wanted to ask though,what is that Orange Stuff around it ? Something to visualize it better or real ? And why does the Black Hole appear so bright ? Keep up the great work !
It's called an accretion disk. When a black hole consumes gas, before it enters the black hole, the gas heats up (I think from friction). It glows brightly from this heat. Real accretion disks don't really look like that, but it's accurate enough of a depiction.
Don't all gravitational fields bend spacetime? Large black holes just are powerful enough to warp time when far away from the event horizon, or is the fact that it is spinning extend this effect?
You're right that all gravitational fields bend spacetime, but the reason a black hole's effect is more extreme is for 2 reasons: 1) The gravity is just so much more intense than other objects due to its mass. 2) Gravity gets stronger the closer you are to an object, and black holes are so tiny compared to their size, that you can be (relatively speaking) very close to them which you couldn't do with something else of the same mass and a larger size.
Yeah I understand all that but what I was wondering about if you had two black holes with the same masses, but one was spinning like described in the video, would the spinning one have more intense warping of time(i'd imagine that it would create intense gravitational waves bending spacetime, but more specifically would the effect of time moving faster become more extreme versus the non spinning black hole.) extending further then the other?
How do you increase an objects spin speed in space engine because I want to make a super time dilation black hole with the editor because I am going to make its radius as small as possible and mass as big as possible to make it super dence and massive and I want to make it spin as fast as possible to and see how many years pass at the center of it in only a minute lol so I can calculate how many years pass in a couple days using space engine lol
The universe is made of a bunch of wormholes squashed together. There is a wormhole that leads to every single place in the cosmos. All we have to do is figure out which ones go where.
Anton, how would a ship, or planet, orbit the black hole in the way it is shown in the movie INTERSTELLAR, without being torn apart? If the time dilation is caused by massive force bending time, wouldn't that force act on all objects affected by the time dilation? Meaning nothing could ever get close enough to experience the effect AND escape?
Hey Anton, I suppose the only thing capable of dilate time is the amount of mass hidden inside the black hole, but not its rotation as a whole or the rotation of material around it (which only confirms the presence of such enormous gravity). Btw I doubt anyone would be able to see the accretion material spinning that fast due to the very time dilation itself.
Need help on this question:: What if you on one of those black hole and your twin is in another black hole that is different than yours? How does time moving when u finding your twin after 1 hour near the black hole? Assuming both of you reach the same time
Since the BH actually warps spacetime noticibly, wouldn't that affect their orbits? This whole thing is really cool. It's relatively complicated though, literally. The ending was great.
so we already know that time travel is possible and we possibly just found it all u need is a warp speed ship with enough life support and somehow orbit the black hole witch is the time dilation for 2-3 hours than get out of orbit and move further away and head back to earth and see what's changed
Even easier (relatively) would be to build a spaceship that can travel nearly as fast as the speed of light and the same effect will occur. The time that occurs inside the spaceship will be faster relative to earth so that more time would pass on earth than in the spaceship
So if the blackhole near the center were spinning near the speed of light. What would be happening to time space and all things around it?? Just a thought.
Ok so lets say two ships are attached together by a really long rope. One ship heads decently close to the event horizon of a black hole while the other ship is safe from any time dilation that the black hole is causing. Time will slow down for the ship next to the black hole while the other ship is still in normal time. What would happen if the ship in normal time would pull back the ship next to the black hole. Would the ship that is being pulled back go back in time?
It wouldn't be any different than if the ship near the black hole left under its own power. The mechanism of propulsion (rope vs. engine) doesn't matter, only where the ship is and how fast it's accelerating. When rope is reeled in and the two ships meet up and compare their clocks, less time will have passed on the ship that was near the black hole. So, in fact, the ship that was near the black hole will have traveled forward in time, not back.
I thought this kind of time dilation happened around every black hole, does it have to spin in other to create that kind of phenomenon?. What would happened if you were to be near a not so fast spinning black hole?, would it be the same phenomenon jus not as dramatic?.
Why can't the Black Hole rotate faster than light? Afterall, what is refered to as black hole is the curved space time region that isolates itself from the rest of the universe. So if space itself can move faster than light, why can a black hole only rotate up to the speed of light?
Strictly speaking, the black hole doesn't have a surface (the event horizon is just a geometrical feature, not a real object), so it's somewhat meaningless to talk about a "rotation speed at the surface". However, there is the effect that you mention, that space around a black hole with angular momentum is being dragged around in a circle. This is known as "frame dragging". Yes, in principle, space, together with particles that exist within it, can be dragged faster than the speed of light. However, the escape velocity at the black hole's event horizon is equal to the speed of light. So, if the frame drag speed at the horizon exceeds the speed of light, then matter trying to cross the event horizon will be ejected from the black hole rather than falling in. Now suppose you're trying to increase the spin rate of a black hole. The only practical way to do this is to fling in matter at a particular angle. But as the frame drag speed approaches the speed of light, it becomes harder and harder to add matter (and hence angular momentum) because it tends to just get flung back out, rather than fall into the black hole. A frame drag speed equal to the speed of light is the limit beyond which it's impossible to add any more angular momentum to the black hole.
Wow space is amazing also where can I find this program one more thing that super massive black hole is just a tiny spec the the universe think about that
Gravity is enough to deform Time and speek of accrétion Disc is directly link ed to gravitation so every blackhole is like this and it has an équation like 1/x for Time deformation where x is the distance to evenement horizon. In interstellar would it be the end of everything if he come back with deus ex machina.
:O you mean being on a planet with a slower time dialation would basically be the same as time travel right? this could be the key to future time travel!! {I'm not saying its EXACTLY like time travel but its the closest realistic thing to it right? so why not find a way to turn that space time dialation into a machine with that ability :D} oops I typed this too early lmao XD bc u meantioned the same thing after I got done typing:3
Even easier (relatively) would be to build a spaceship that can travel nearly as fast as the speed of light and the same effect will occur. The time that occurs inside the spaceship will be faster relative to earth so that more time passes on earth than on the spaceship.
Run13 Buddhabrot what would happen if the flow of which ions flow was reversed ? Not just slowed down due to gravity densities but for influence of time to be pushed in oppisite direction what would happen?
It's all relative. Say we had a telescope that could see this black hole in real time and an astronaut was orbiting the black hole. What we on earth view over the course of an hour would only be a fraction of a second to the astronaut. Therefore as the astronaut only aged a fraction of a second, us on earth aged an hour. If you extrapolate that and have the astronaut spend a few hours around the black hole, earth would experience decades in the same timespan
No. You are talking crap. These stars orbit at billions of kilometers. A stellar mass black hole has time dillation at a few hundred or thousands of kilometers at most. A supermassive black hole similarly. These stars orbit at fractions of light speed. They wont experience any appreciable time dillation. Dude, seriously.
So you can create a time machine essentially that goes into the future just buy warping SpaceTime with gravity that seems feasible within the coming decades all you have to do is just warp space time at an incredible rate and you can travel through time all we have to do is just master gravity first
Hi Anton, question for you! If the event horizon edge is spinning at near the speed of light, wouldn't the very outer edge of the accretion disk be spinning at or faster then the speed of light since it's further out then the event horizon?
You wouldn't you be killed by the gravity stretching you to death if you could somehow survive the extreme gravitational forces and pass through no one knows what would be on the other side
Great video. I'm curious what cumulative effects of motion and gravity might be, if any? For instance the rotation of earth, rotation of galaxy, etc.. Also maybe we can test local (smaller) time dialation effects using simultaneous solar flaring. I've noticed some flare that appear to be simulanious, and if near enough to simultaneous we can use geometry to measure scales and vector -> analysis ;)
You would either arrive to a husk of a planet, or a planet you wouldn't recognise. Everyone you ever knew, and any memory of them will have been wiped away. You would be an outsider everywhere, your way of life wouldn't comply with theirs, you'd have no money worth a damn, everything you own will be relics. It would be shit, to get to the point.
Sorry to shit on your fantasies but we will never get to that galaxy. We will only be capable of visiting galaxies in the Local Group because of the expansion of space.
The problem with this fun thought experiment/fantasy/ wishful thinking to me is that even though you are travelling into the future you will not experience the billions of years that passed on earth so why travel like that. At the end of the day you will only live the hours or years you had been travelling from your friend of reference so no infinite knowledge or living double your life span. It is pointless and not really fun if you actually though about it. The universe cant be cheated and it always gets the last laugh. We cant break the laws of physics namely causality and vonservation of information. F relativity.
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But you didn't show us the bookcase inside the black hole...
The beings are humans from the future.
*Organ intensifies*
L N you mean the tesseract
"Relatively short video" I see what you did there
Well it's actually a year back on Earth...
i saw your commment right as he said it
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So an important note Anton pointed out is, yes to the observer (far enough away for time to be unaffected by the black hole) someone or something may appear to be slowing down to a stop (or close to) in time but for the object or person, nothing changes. I love space, more I think about it the more my mind gets blown.
I experienced time dilation once in a black hole.....her name was Lawanda, and it only cost me 20 bucks :D
PsionNinja haha nice one!
And I was Lawanda and that was my fist.
they need to make a mod for and its the system from interstellar
Question: So, if I get stuck in the event horizon of a black hole, would I be able to see the end of the Universe?
Yep. You'd essentially experience "stopped" time, so you'd basically see the entire universe end before you very eyes... shortly before dying to the black hole's gravity ripping you apart of course.
thechrisgrice a awesome way to die
A VERY painful way to die. You would get stretched and ripped apart. So yeah sounds like fun.
WackyTraveler I guess there's no massive tidal effect near a spinning smbh so u will not get stretched...
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The tidal force doesnt rip you apart, the gravity does.
There seems gravitational lens effect at 11:03 ?
Almost 40k dude nice!!!
Gargantua's spin had nothing to do with the time dilation experienced on Miller's planet.
So if the space time around a black hole spinning at near light speed also rotates at near light speed as u said , will the space time around the earth also rotate at the rate of rotation of the earth
So basically the planet would be inside the Roche limit and you'd be torn apart by insane amounts of radiation.
Good job man ! Really enjoyed that video :)
I wanted to ask though,what is that Orange Stuff around it ? Something to visualize it better or real ?
And why does the Black Hole appear so bright ?
Keep up the great work !
It's called an accretion disk. When a black hole consumes gas, before it enters the black hole, the gas heats up (I think from friction). It glows brightly from this heat. Real accretion disks don't really look like that, but it's accurate enough of a depiction.
Ηι βγε Oh,thank you very much ! :)
EmperorMartin No problem! :)
Don't all gravitational fields bend spacetime? Large black holes just are powerful enough to warp time when far away from the event horizon, or is the fact that it is spinning extend this effect?
You're right that all gravitational fields bend spacetime, but the reason a black hole's effect is more extreme is for 2 reasons:
1) The gravity is just so much more intense than other objects due to its mass.
2) Gravity gets stronger the closer you are to an object, and black holes are so tiny compared to their size, that you can be (relatively speaking) very close to them which you couldn't do with something else of the same mass and a larger size.
Yeah I understand all that but what I was wondering about if you had two black holes with the same masses, but one was spinning like described in the video, would the spinning one have more intense warping of time(i'd imagine that it would create intense gravitational waves bending spacetime, but more specifically would the effect of time moving faster become more extreme versus the non spinning black hole.) extending further then the other?
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It wouldn't have any additional effect, no.
Yes it would... Also, look up "ergosphere".
TOExHEAD Yeah, he spinning will deform space-time more than the still (the so called Rachuznnfnuwanofna black-hole jajaja)... because: ergosphere!
7:17 The Dragon of Space-Time makes an appearance!
How do you increase an objects spin speed in space engine because I want to make a super time dilation black hole with the editor because I am going to make its radius as small as possible and mass as big as possible to make it super dence and massive and I want to make it spin as fast as possible to and see how many years pass at the center of it in only a minute lol so I can calculate how many years pass in a couple days using space engine lol
Damn Anton. Blowing my mind once again thanks :D
The universe is made of a bunch of wormholes squashed together. There is a wormhole that leads to every single place in the cosmos. All we have to do is figure out which ones go where.
Best channel ever.
Anton, how would a ship, or planet, orbit the black hole in the way it is shown in the movie INTERSTELLAR, without being torn apart? If the time dilation is caused by massive force bending time, wouldn't that force act on all objects affected by the time dilation? Meaning nothing could ever get close enough to experience the effect AND escape?
Nice video Anton!
No
Hey Anton, I suppose the only thing capable of dilate time is the amount of mass hidden inside the black hole, but not its rotation as a whole or the rotation of material around it (which only confirms the presence of such enormous gravity). Btw I doubt anyone would be able to see the accretion material spinning that fast due to the very time dilation itself.
I wish I can go to that Black Hole
and miss everything?
Or wait for Half-Life 3.
The Courier hahahahhahhahahahha
The Courier lol XD
GumbaverianX you wannna read Some books in there?
How do you you have this information? Where do you get it from? Space time is quite new to a lot of people.
Yes, but is there a formula to determine the time difference based on mass and spin rate of any particular blackhole?
Need help on this question::
What if you on one of those black hole and your twin is in another black hole that is different than yours? How does time moving when u finding your twin after 1 hour near the black hole? Assuming both of you reach the same time
Since the BH actually warps spacetime noticibly, wouldn't that affect their orbits? This whole thing is really cool. It's relatively complicated though, literally. The ending was great.
Your fcking videos are time dilation every damn time i watch these videos , day passes faster
So its the same type of stand as made in heaven
What program did you use for this simulation?
There are so many galaxies moving away from us faster than the speed of light, which we will never observe..
Coolest Math Guy Ever!
anton I really like ur vids
so we already know that time travel is possible and we possibly just found it all u need is a warp speed ship with enough life support and somehow orbit the black hole witch is the time dilation for 2-3 hours than get out of orbit and move further away and head back to earth and see what's changed
Even easier (relatively) would be to build a spaceship that can travel nearly as fast as the speed of light and the same effect will occur. The time that occurs inside the spaceship will be faster relative to earth so that more time would pass on earth than in the spaceship
Don't let me leave Murph
Would like to know what computer software he is using
So if the blackhole near the center were spinning near the speed of light. What would be happening to time space and all things around it?? Just a thought.
where do you get the space engine????
Ok so lets say two ships are attached together by a really long rope. One ship heads decently close to the event horizon of a black hole while the other ship is safe from any time dilation that the black hole is causing. Time will slow down for the ship next to the black hole while the other ship is still in normal time. What would happen if the ship in normal time would pull back the ship next to the black hole. Would the ship that is being pulled back go back in time?
It wouldn't be any different than if the ship near the black hole left under its own power. The mechanism of propulsion (rope vs. engine) doesn't matter, only where the ship is and how fast it's accelerating. When rope is reeled in and the two ships meet up and compare their clocks, less time will have passed on the ship that was near the black hole. So, in fact, the ship that was near the black hole will have traveled forward in time, not back.
I thought this kind of time dilation happened around every black hole, does it have to spin in other to create that kind of phenomenon?. What would happened if you were to be near a not so fast spinning black hole?, would it be the same phenomenon jus not as dramatic?.
Why can't the Black Hole rotate faster than light?
Afterall, what is refered to as black hole is the curved space time region that isolates itself from the rest of the universe.
So if space itself can move faster than light, why can a black hole only rotate up to the speed of light?
Strictly speaking, the black hole doesn't have a surface (the event horizon is just a geometrical feature, not a real object), so it's somewhat meaningless to talk about a "rotation speed at the surface". However, there is the effect that you mention, that space around a black hole with angular momentum is being dragged around in a circle. This is known as "frame dragging".
Yes, in principle, space, together with particles that exist within it, can be dragged faster than the speed of light. However, the escape velocity at the black hole's event horizon is equal to the speed of light. So, if the frame drag speed at the horizon exceeds the speed of light, then matter trying to cross the event horizon will be ejected from the black hole rather than falling in.
Now suppose you're trying to increase the spin rate of a black hole. The only practical way to do this is to fling in matter at a particular angle. But as the frame drag speed approaches the speed of light, it becomes harder and harder to add matter (and hence angular momentum) because it tends to just get flung back out, rather than fall into the black hole. A frame drag speed equal to the speed of light is the limit beyond which it's impossible to add any more angular momentum to the black hole.
Ah thanks.
This helps pretty well.
But wouldn't this mean that the lifespan of a black hole could be just a second as well?
then what will happen if the black hole was pining the other way
Isnt this also considered as one-way time travel?
How about the goblin in the black hole holding the universe in the marble?
What are you using to view the universe like this?
I would like to know
@@mikaelmatthews9666 It's "Space Engine" !
Wow space is amazing also where can I find this program one more thing that super massive black hole is just a tiny spec the the universe think about that
10 years passed while i watched this video
Gravity is enough to deform Time and speek of accrétion Disc is directly link ed to gravitation so every blackhole is like this and it has an équation like 1/x for Time deformation where x is the distance to evenement horizon. In interstellar would it be the end of everything if he come back with deus ex machina.
Speed
how do you get space engine
:O you mean being on a planet with a slower time dialation would basically be the same as time travel right? this could be the key to future time travel!! {I'm not saying its EXACTLY like time travel but its the closest realistic thing to it right? so why not find a way to turn that space time dialation into a machine with that ability :D} oops I typed this too early lmao XD bc u meantioned the same thing after I got done typing:3
Even easier (relatively) would be to build a spaceship that can travel nearly as fast as the speed of light and the same effect will occur. The time that occurs inside the spaceship will be faster relative to earth so that more time passes on earth than on the spaceship.
So does that men the black hole its self will outlive all of the other black holes around it
So time dilation isnt time TRAVEL. Its just a way to slow down the time of the traveller.
Run13 Buddhabrot what would happen if the flow of which ions flow was reversed ? Not just slowed down due to gravity densities but for influence of time to be pushed in oppisite direction what would happen?
It's all relative. Say we had a telescope that could see this black hole in real time and an astronaut was orbiting the black hole. What we on earth view over the course of an hour would only be a fraction of a second to the astronaut. Therefore as the astronaut only aged a fraction of a second, us on earth aged an hour. If you extrapolate that and have the astronaut spend a few hours around the black hole, earth would experience decades in the same timespan
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whats the name of the cluster .? anyone ???
Why wouldn't the super massive black hole at the center of our Galaxy do the same thing?
See you on the other side Anton
So, doesn't that mean black holes can (theoretically) live forever?
Hawking radiation still happens.
Ηι βγε not relative to the black hole.
Tarek E No it does happen, relative to the black hole. Just not relative to us.
Ηι βγε yes, that's what I'm saying.
Tarek E You said it the other way around
Can any start be older than our Universe?
"This is not about my life, or cooper's life, THIS IS ABOUT ALL MAN KIND! There is a moment-"
*Gets sucked into the black hole*
No. You are talking crap.
These stars orbit at billions of kilometers. A stellar mass black hole has time dillation at a few hundred or thousands of kilometers at most. A supermassive black hole similarly. These stars orbit at fractions of light speed. They wont experience any appreciable time dillation.
Dude, seriously.
aweasome explanation
So you can create a time machine essentially that goes into the future just buy warping SpaceTime with gravity that seems feasible within the coming decades all you have to do is just warp space time at an incredible rate and you can travel through time all we have to do is just master gravity first
Hi Anton, question for you! If the event horizon edge is spinning at near the speed of light, wouldn't the very outer edge of the accretion disk be spinning at or faster then the speed of light since it's further out then the event horizon?
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What would one see if they fell into this blackhole beyond the event horizon?
GlockFan1990
no one knows
(unless they're omniscient)
You wouldn't you be killed by the gravity stretching you to death if you could somehow survive the extreme gravitational forces and pass through no one knows what would be on the other side
in one theory, you would become something like a "god", you could see everything in all times at the same time
OMG I found this galaxy by accedent once! haha!
Boba Fett accident*
Sorry
your not sorry
I found this black hole but then lost it :( damn it
so then within the event horizon its matter / mass is spinning faster than the speed of light? seeing as the event horizon itself is near light speed.
Great video. I'm curious what cumulative effects of motion and gravity might be, if any? For instance the rotation of earth, rotation of galaxy, etc..
Also maybe we can test local (smaller) time dialation effects using simultaneous solar flaring. I've noticed some flare that appear to be simulanious, and if near enough to simultaneous we can use geometry to measure scales and vector -> analysis ;)
Me: when my math teacher says what is 290 x 90 0:21
my eyes are bleeding
GO INSIDE THE BLACK HOLE PLEASE
id use this to fuckn lock myself for 1000 years and then come back to earth with future tech ready to go.. thats my goal... yes man
You would either arrive to a husk of a planet, or a planet you wouldn't recognise. Everyone you ever knew, and any memory of them will have been wiped away. You would be an outsider everywhere, your way of life wouldn't comply with theirs, you'd have no money worth a damn, everything you own will be relics. It would be shit, to get to the point.
Sorry to shit on your fantasies but we will never get to that galaxy. We will only be capable of visiting galaxies in the Local Group because of the expansion of space.
regular rocket travel doesnt allow shit anyway. there MUST be another way of travelling created or else we'll never leave
Cazaam The Angry Aspie You know that's just a theory. Right.
A game th... Sorry.
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The problem with this fun thought experiment/fantasy/ wishful thinking to me is that even though you are travelling into the future you will not experience the billions of years that passed on earth so why travel like that. At the end of the day you will only live the hours or years you had been travelling from your friend of reference so no infinite knowledge or living double your life span. It is pointless and not really fun if you actually though about it. The universe cant be cheated and it always gets the last laugh. We cant break the laws of physics namely causality and vonservation of information. F relativity.
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ok guys...i'm going to a black hole. i'll come back in 4 years, when the next election starts
Please stop using the words, "actually", "really" nd "very".
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