Hotchkiss with C&Rsenal
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In this video we shoot and discuss the French Hotchkiss Machine Gun. If you are interested in learning more, check out C&Rsenal's channel for a detailed, in depth look at this particular firearm and its history. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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If I'm not mistaken these guns were proven to be insanely reliable in a 12 hour barrage of fire to buy other troops time, for reasons I am not completely sure of, sometime in ww1. I can't remember specifics beyond that, but I seem to remember that there were 10 teams with hotchkiss machine guns, and a group of soldiers carrying their supplies of extra barrels, ammunition, ECT. The team that was able to shoot the most rounds was to win a prize of some sort.
Over 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition were fired in that 12 hour period, with the winning team firing 120,000 rounds in that period of time.
Throughout all 10 teams 10 guns and 1,000,000 rounds being fired continuously, there was ZERO mechanical failures of the guns. I know of NO other small arm in history that has showcased that kind of reliability in a combat environment. If anyone can elaborate further on this please help me fill in the gaps!
VERY interesting ! Thanks
Verdun initial attack , two MG basically stopped the all german army
You might want to check out what the British 100th Machine Gun Company did in WW1 (1916 IIRC) using the Vickers (British-built and slightly updated Maxim gun) with 10 Vickers MG's. They used 1 belt (250 rnds) short of 1 million rounds over a 12 hr period with zero stoppages and no issues.
Not showing the target is a pure crime!
seventhsun1 I agree I was ready to see the carnage down range!!
Its French. Didn't hit fuck all.
@@amorembalming Hahahahaha
I was about to say the same thing.
seventhsun1. I totally agree!!😊
Who else really wanted to see what was happening down range?
My absolute favorite era of arms development. Thanks to Eric, C&Rsenal, Ian, Karl, Anvil, the Great War, all you guys.
As a frenchman & collector of the WW1, i did some research about that machine gun. At the beginning of the battle of Verdun, 2 Hotchkiss were positionned in a blauckhoss & stopped the attack on this point , firing no less than 12.000 shots in one day without any incident. The french platoons gave their ammos when they reached the position of the 2 machines guns. Each soldier should carry between 2 or 3 hundreds ammunitions, they left for the position.
The machine gun was very reliable , but coudnt be used in fast attacks toward trenches.
Many thx for that video.
"Distinctive looking machine gun" I agree sir - very cool
My two most favourite youtubers, family friendly, informative, and could listen to them all day.
Merci beaucoup pour la présentation ! This MG was told to be « increvable », which means « unbreakable » be the solders who served it. This one gun save Verdun by stopping the German attacks.
That is one bad piece of machinery!! Old technology is just beautiful!
The French should have stood with this machine gun Instead of the chauchat
@@yuhboii7862 Do you know the difference between a LMG and a 50kg weapon that need 4 operators ? It is as pertinent as comparing the cal 30. and the cal 50.
Come to think of it, a lot of french military weapons and vehicles have "smooth lines" and a distinctive "futuristic look".
Frederik design was unparalleled. However they were way too cutting edge way too often.
Wow! The sound of that thing is incredible.
True international gun. Base system - Odkolek M1891 MG - Austrian engineer (Austrian-Slavian), American engineer Hotchkiss upgraded M1891 gun, and produced in France and other countryes.
In Russia in 1916-1917 based on Hotchkiss projected .50 cal MG, in British 12.7x109SR experimental cartridge. This gun was unbuilt, first Russian automatic* heavy machine gun - P-5 - builted in 1925, but, based on Dreyse MG.13 LMG, in British 12.7x81 Vickers.
*first non-automatic heavy machine gun, ever built - Gatling-Zagoskin M1869 experimental gun, .60 cal cartridge.
At first I read "Hot chicks"
Omfg lol
So did I.
HA! I had to scroll down to check, same here man! Saw Mae in the pic
Ha! Same here.
I mean, Mae is there.
awesome system for sure
There was also a belt type of feed system for this Hotchkiss machine gun m1914, in fact it was a connection of 3 bullet strips to a belt.
The internals of these are BEAUTIFUL! Most Steam-Punk real gun of all time.
Gotta love that sound! Just beautiful!
But does it take Glock mags?
Did it look like a Glock mag to you..? Yes, it takes French "le glock clippazines"!
That joke is getting old...
Babbling Babblator , butt hurt babbling
@@andymcgraw473 you are one annoying SOB - don't you have anything better to do than sound like a total jackass in this forum?
Andy Mcgraw - when you are smug about being stupid. 😣
I read in this thread it does take glock magazines, a French clipazine.
Seen the thumbnail with Mae of C&Rsenal in the background and it was a no brainer to watch. Beautiful lady with her lovely smile, always a must watch.
Steampunk gun
EXACTLY! :D
Man...They sure did make things SOLID back then!...Very nice!
I like to see videos like this. A quick look at a freaking awesome piece of history.
Hotchkiss was a American/ French company that created alot of French machine guns ,this particular kind of gun was a standard heavy machine gun in the US Army in ww1 France!
Your New Years resolution should be to put a camera down range for these videos 😉
The heavy MGs in those times had some compromises. Going air-cooled vs. water-cooled means a very heavy barrel with heavy cooling rings. Also, it seems the 30 round strips would allow a moment or two between strips for the barrel to cool off.
More than one of the earliest smokeless ammo...it's the first one ! And high command wanted to rush its production to equip the whole French army as quick as possible with that revolutionnary capacity. This gave the Lebel, the first modern rifle. But why rush ? Because the conditions who would gave WW1 30 years later were already in the air (the miracle is that it didn't happened before) and so French military didn't want to be stuck in a rearmement program in a middle of a war. This is why by 1914 its magazine system was obsolete, everybody in Europe had the time to catch up. But remember, French scientist Paul vielle disover the smokeless powder in 1883, by 1885 the perfect bullet is found but General Boulanger gave 6 month to develop the ammo case...and the rest of the rifle ! So they take what they had, the 1885 Kropatchek for 11mm gras (that was going to replace the Gras) and converted it to use 8mm smokelless ammo, 11mm case include !
So imperfect yes, but the first one, and in really constraignive circumstances !
The Breda M37, Italy's primary HMG, also used those metallic feedstrips.
my grandpa's heavy machine gun back in 1927
Can't wait for this episode of C&Rsenal
The Build and Excessive weight reminds me of a Giant Thompson :-)))
What kind of velocities are you getting out of that 45 ft barrel?
magnifique .Une très belle vidéo.C'est excellent de voir cette arme légendaire en action .Encore bravo et merci pour votre travail.
Rock of the Marne man!
In beautiful condition. History in action.
All you gun guru folks working together are making some great content !!!!!!
Feeding a cloth belt require an assistant gunner too with the coils going in all direction and considering the weight that gun do not have the water jackets{ full of water of course} been air cooled. The overall weight is actually lower compared to the water cooled Maxim types of machine guns and you dont need constantly adding water{water that you have to carry in the trenches with you} to cool the gun. There are pros and cons for the both major types of machine guns from this era.
Eric was the only one that knows how to shoot a machine gun that shot in the video
You mean, with no ear pro?
@@kevburger I think he has ear pro in they're just hard to see
Nice to see the old man getting out behind the bull
It was good to see Mr. Moss getting some trigger time on the Hotchkiss and I'd take Mae as an assistant gunner any day of the week. Jolly good stuff!
It sure looks and sounds badass while it's firing.
My two favorite gun channels. Awesome.
I like it when they get Ian on.
Eric doing the controlled bursts like a boss.
Some US Army regiments were more than French equipped. They were under French Officers. Apparently the French were at least colored with the Colored Regiments we gave them
Kind of surprising rate of fire for the time period. Way cool to see an old warhorse like that step up and run
all these youtubers having Range Days, and everyone brings ARs or AKs. i want a WW1 Range Day nothing after 1918.
Mons Meg?
my favourite machine gun in the history of guns
I can't remember the source. I heard after WW I, it was common for American Legion's to have functional German Maxims on display. It is sad how our culture has declined. Now, I don't think GI's can bring back a bayonet.
I believe that they can bring back rifles still, but since it's pretty much just all AK's guys don't see any reason to. Just use 'em in the in field if they prefer them to their M4/M16. Seen plenty of guys with 'em. And for bring backs they would have to register them with the NFA as class three weapons.
@@Meravokas no. US soldiers cannot bring back ANYTHING from a deployment.
You Guys Didn’t Let Mae Shoot 😲😮🥺🥺🥺
Back then machinegunners used to put sandbags on the mounts front feet, to mitigate the wabbling. ;)
Mae does not even flinch! She is the best!
Brass neck DESTROYER!!! And Mae knows her guns!
Right! The Storm Troopers set up a Lewis Gun to shoot at the Millenium Falcon because it was lighter? (And it's an American gun, but old man Hotchkiss was American too, until he was run off to Paris. What did Santayana say about history again? I forget.)
It's good to see Mr. Moss again even if for only a moment.
Hooray for Mae!!
Wow, I suggested the Hotchkiss MG last month and you guys delivered. An awesome demonstration of an under-rated heavy weapon of the Great War and surprisingly well made compared to the m1915 ShoSho. Unlike the Maxims, I wonder if this air-cooled heavy gun could run sustained fire before overheating.
it could, but not for as long as the water cooled maxims, it had a heavy barrel and the radiator at the base to absorb and dissipate heat,also the barrel could be swapped relatively easily by pushing a wedge and disengaging the interrupted threads, the barrel can them be pulled off and a fresh one thrown in, but the barrel removing was more for transport than swapping hot barrels, as they were tight and needed a wrench to break them loose
This isn't a C&Rsenal video, they're just visiting. Since it is his show, Mae as "Machine Gun Crew Member" is understandable. If I want to see what happens to the target down range, there's always C&Rsenal or Hickok45 videos.
That was really cool, Eric. But disappointed that Mae didn't get a turn. Needs our minute of Mae!
Beautiful gun 😍
The best part was seeing Mae!! ;)
Excellent installment! That thing is brutal, and your guncrew seems to have a good time as well.
The Japanese one (the "woodpecker") was practically a Benet-Mercie, but I digress it's all the same system.
And indeed it was a cumbersome machinegun, and as you said it wasn't the best but it was reliable and it was easy and fast to produce, the production of this and rotation of troops was Marshall Petain's priority on the order of things, and it won them the war, of course with the all in effort of British and lastly a desperate effort by the Americans who poured in thousands of troops (many of whom were ill equipped but shied not from the duty at hand), I must add.
AZ Guns has an excellent installment on the Benet Mercie btw, I encourage people to watch it if they haven't had enough of these kinds of machine guns (not that we can ever have enough of ANY machine gun).
Damn it man! That is bad ass!💪
That machine gun sounds absolutely awsome!
Your neighbours must really love you Eric. :)
That’s very true for our IJA!
Nice teamwork 💪🏻😊👍🏻
that is how guns should be made. that is beautiful
I still want a Lewis gun
Beautiful piece of history right there, ran smooth as butter! Would have liked to see what had happened down range though!
Haha. Your description has me reading “CONSIDER PURCHASING A MAN”
Awesome looking gun
I'd hate to have had to carry it very far
Would be easier then getting an M2 into the field.
@Sven3xs Was referring to moving it around as the op mentioned. Of course the M2 is a bit easier to operate, its belt fed.
Gun seems to bounce around a lot while firing. Perhaps sandbagging the tripod would settle her down.
Look at a Japanese type 92. That thing is rock steady allowing for extremely accurate fire.
I love C&Rsenal videos I can't wait to see the video on this gun.
2 channels I love :)
That made my day. That was a masterpiece!
They also saw some action in the Mexican revolution
C&Rsenal, IMO is the BEST channel on TH-cam. They should have 10x the followers they do. *SMH*
My understanding is that metal feed strips were chosen because of concern that early cloth belts could be problematic if they got wet.
The firing rate and sound of this gun is phenomenal. The only thing that i wonder about it the piston under the barrel has a large air gap when not being fired. Might be a hazard with mud or debris getting in there. I have seen footage of the Hotchkiss being fired before. The gun would be fired and when the last cartridge would be fired, the assistant gunner would put his hand on top of the area of the rear sight to block the gunner's view and I assumed it was to let the gunner know the gun was empty. I wondered if it was to ensure the gunner did not pull the trigger again possibly breaking the firing pin?? I saw it on two different scenes so it appeared it might have been something instilled in them at training. Any ideas?
they had one of these on" Gunny Time" a couple of weeks ago!
Great old gun! Happy New Year!
What a beast
"Crazy futuristic look" More like crazy steampunk look :P
Love these types of firearms
I can only hope this foretells a history lesson soon from Othias on his channel
Awww man! would love to see you guys running one of those or a Type 92 and linking the strips, see how much lead you can throw
Now that's some hard ware but I wanna see one of those old water cooled guns
Take the damn thing apart! I love seeing how things work. Guess I'll have to go over to Forgotten Weapons now.
C&Rsenal episode #97.
Great to see Mae and Othais alongside Eric and Chad!
Waiting for May to shoot!
More with C&R!!!!!!!!!!!
Loved the video, great gun.
hi buddy... i love your channel.. i like anything relate to guns... i am from Brazil and sadly is very, very difficult to own a firearm here... Anyway your stuff is very enjoyable... best wishes and Happy New Year to you and your crew... thanks a lot....
Hey this came out on my birthday. Thanks guys.
maxim or hotchkiss? id take the hotchkiss i think. i know there static guns but i dont wanna have to deal with the water.
@Iraqveteran8888 can you guys do a video on the DP-28 and as always keep up the good work
I feel like I am looking at part of a AK-47 receiver shape wise. Now we know where he got his influences from.
You lucky man! You got to spend at least a very real minute with Mae!
If we're talking about Star Wars props, most of them are based on WWII German weaponry, not British. The pistol Han Solo uses was based off a Luger, and the Storm-Troopers' rifles were based on MG42s, for example.
Wrong. Han Solo's pistol is based on the Mauser C-96 (Broom handle), not the Luger
@@monteengel461 Fair enough. Still German though. You kinda come off like a prick, btw.
The storm troopers were armed with a lot of Sterling SMGs and Lewis guns.
@@minuteman4199 Indeed, but the SturmTruppen were a small part of Germany's military effort during the war, even when compared to other infantry units.
Crossover episode!