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NOOO! Keep the Necronomicon motive! Tenko killed because You as the protagonist went around asking everyone if they'd be willing to help, but no one wants to because they don't have interest...except Himiko, who says she'll only user her magic to help if you revive Angie. Tenko being jealous and naive believes Himiko's magic will actually help, but instead, your plan was actually to revive Shuichi since he was catching on to the mastermind and you thought he could be of some help. Keebo helps because at the time he doesn't know, but the audience survey made him help you. Tenko goes and kills both of you, thinking she's preventing Angie from coming back and taking Himiko away from her. Your idea is great too, but the Necronomicon motives absolutely can work still!!
"God dammit these simulations are NOT FOLLOWING THE PLAN WHAT THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN BEFORE OH NO OUR RATINGS BOB WHAT DID YOU DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
I can imagine as the trial goes on shes just getting more annoyed and frustrated. Until the last trial, she just a full blown fanfic tantrum how nothing went well
Loosing an ultimate detective in first chapter and not even having a class trial sounds like great subversive of dangan troupes. I can almost see it happening in v3 like similar to Sayaka but at the same time original
For Tenko killing Rantaro: The hint she gets could be about his sisters all going missing and because of her distrust of men plus the last culprit haven been revealed to be a serial killer who targets only women, she jumps to conclusions and assumes he must be planning to kill all the women in the game. After she kills him, she discovers his hint about Keebo and decides to confront him but it doesn't go well, resulting in her gaining a second victim.
Or the hint could be something really vague about the previous killing game, like, “Rantaro knows this game well” or something like that. That’s a really good idea thingy that you thought of!
"Miu girlbossed her way out of the game" is a sentence that I know I can't hear anywhere outside of Weeby's channel, and one of the many reasons why I am a dedicated subscriber.
Fun fact: Rantaro was originally made to be forgettable, however as the plot went on, the devs began to regret it and wished Rantaro played a larger part in the plot… but it was too late in the development of the game to change it. If Rantaro was changed to stay alive longer, the chapter 1 victim would have been Ryoma instead.
i could see ryoma being the first victim since the mysterious characters like rantaro and twogami and humor charaters like ryoma and teruteru normally die first.
Tsumugi getting screwed by the wheel sounds like the funniest thing that should happen in the actual game. Would love to see how annoyed she gets as nothing goes the way she had plan
Detective Pancakes I suppose but the hint you made implies Team Danganronpa reused the exact same set as last killing game so maybe like “He and Monokuma are not strangers to each other” works too
@@agatha6999 That too, while the idea that they would not reuse a location came into mind, I feel that would be the easiest way to have the group understand the meaning while still being ominous
I think the wheel hates the idea of male protagonists, thats why the last two protags were Kyoko and Chiaki. Thats why Hifumi lasted for 5 minutes and Rantaro and Kaito died.
Tbh Kaede would make an interesting antagonist in this game And I think her becoming the protagonist eventually sometime after Rantaro and kaito die is pretty natural. And I guess Kokichi becomes the new support. I mean I guess he’s gonna be irredeemable but that’s interesting for a support to be honest. The support character not being a good person. Edit: nvm. He dies
@@devontekuykendall3565 I mean Kaito and Kaede are pretty similar in alot of ways, in the new danganronpa S Kaede and Maki seem to be really close friends, i think during chapter 4 Maki would want to protect Kaito but Kaede is forced to acuse him, making her relationship with Maki similar with how Shuichi and Kaito acted chapter 5
I think the survivors in this case do actually kind of fit and it would be interesting to see how Kirumi and Ryoma would react if they realized their backstories are complete "lies" Tho the real standout moment is Maki just Girlbossing two killing games
Ryoma would be so conflicted. On one hand, he may still have people out there who are important to him. On the other hand, all his suffering was manufactured
"Hey Gonta, does fall damage exist in this world?" "Well... Lets see! Although Gonta no can jump in virtual world. Mind giving gentleman a push?" "Bet!"
I do like the idea that Kokichi had nothing to do with the murder itself. He just pulls a Byakuya and hides the crime. Kaito either begrudgingly goes along with it or has zero idea how all this fake evidence came to be. Kokichi’s motive could be to appear as the mastermind by making things entertaining and getting “caught.” No one would believe him if he just claimed to be the mastermind so he framed himself and tampered with the crime scene.
I really like these videos. All the speculations and theories on different characters brings back memories from first time playing the games. I think I’ll feel similar if danganronpa 4 teaser will happen. We can only hope. Makes me want to write my first fanfic
Let’s hope they will not do another game. The series ended. That’s a great ending. I don’t wanna see devs ruining it. Let’s just look forward to a new series from same developers which just might be as amazing as danganronpa. Maybe Rain code will be the one.
@@morutama I don't think another game will be bad. I've seen the idea of doing Rantaro's killing game or an anniversary game. It can take place between 2 and 53, so it has tons of space. But yes, I still think the ending was great and everything
@@devontekuykendall3565 THIS. EXACTLY THIS. Once I got to the point in the game where you uncover Rantaro’s identity I thought to myself “Hey it would be cool if we saw the killing game Rantaro was in.” Maybe he could be the protagonist. I feel like focusing on a past game would not have ruined V3’s ending since you could just say “it was a past killing game.”
Something I really like about the idea of Ryoma being a survivor is that now he can find a new reason to live (like his new friends from the killing game or something like that)
I really like the theme of this game being trust and doubt. Something interesting I could imagine at the end when Tsumugi is revealed as the mastermind is instead of the vote for hope or despair she decided to do something different since things aren’t going as intended anyway. I think a prisoners dilemma would fit the end well and be quite interesting, having to decide wether to trust or betray the group, if everyone trusts each other then they all survive and leave, if a single person betrays then the rest die while they leave alone, potentially with some sort of bonus like cash or bringing someone back to life, and if multiple people betray, then the betrayers live while the trustees die, having the killing game continue if all 4 or just 3 of them betray or the game ending if 2 of them betray with them being the survivors and the other 2 being the sacrificed to go to the next game. I think this could be added onto with tsumugi asking if they can really trust each other, with maki and ryoma being actual killers in their pasts, and kaede and kirumi having been planned to be killers. Maybe even showing footage of kaede setting up her attempted murder in chapter one. Then you’d have to convince the others to trust each other so they can finally all escape. Finally when it comes to the choice you/kaede can decide to trust and escape with everyone, or betray them and be the sole survivor.
I think a Your Turn To Die Wheel of Fate would be really cool, when you have the time for it! It'd probably be a little more complicated than Danganronpa's spins since there's the diverging routes, but I still think it'd be fun to see even if you do end up having to take them out
Here's some cool development arcs that i thought for this version: After ch.1 Kaito would make Kaede his sidekick and start doing the night trainning with her and Maki. Ryoma, after having watched his motive video in ch.2, would be hopeless and try to distance himself from the other participants. Kaito would then notice this and try to give him some peptalk and invite him to do trainning with the others. Ryoma denies the invitation, but starts looking at them trainning and bonding from a distance in some nights, questioning himself if he should join them. After Kaito gets executed at the end of ch. 4, Maki would be devastated and during one of trainning nights she would tell Kaede about the feelings she had for him and how sad she is because he's gone. Ryoma, passing by, would hear this and enter the conversation, and together with Kaede, they would share their stories about their loved ones who have also died (Kaede about Shuichi, and Ryoma about his lover). After this Maki would be comforted and Ryoma would try to find a reason to live again and would join the trainning with them. Kirumi could also join them later as she is also lost, feeling guilt and looking for answers because of her motive video. And by the beginning of ch.6 they would all be determined to escape, for the ones they lost and their purpose.
YEAH- Meanwhile Tsumugi is gradually Losing More and More of Her Shit as the Game Continues to the point that she goes into Mental Insanity. The Biggest Interesting Question is how would this Story End because of How Off the Rails it has become.
This would actually be super interesting. To have Shuichi die to Miu and have Kaede have to deal with how trusting someone got her friend killed and not even getting justice. Miu could also be such a wild card. Like once she escapes what happens to her? Do they wipe her memories again and give her the original memories? It'd be so cool if at the end of the game Miu comes back and destroys the set like Keebo does. This path would also be really cool because basically half way through the game all the info gathered basically vanishes and you transfer to a character that has no idea about what's going on. It'd be a great dramatic irony where the player knows more than anoyone else and maybe tries to get the MC to look at more things and uncover stuff that were already uncovered and revealed by Rantaro. Then after maybe Kaede being an antagonist in Rantaro's time and then at the end being the protagonist would really help in giving her the development of going from a trusting person to a distrusting person and then at the end finding hope again and trusting in everyone maybe even the fifth trial Kokichi being a representation of Kaede falling into despair after Shuichi's death and Kaede overcoming that and becoming the leader and getting back more of her happy personality back. Honestly, I love V3 but this version might be a be better version if it was ever made.
This wheel was a hell of a journey, haha. And honestly, Kaito being close with Rantaro actually works considering that he was willing to believe in Maki despite her being the Ultimate Assassin getting revealed, so Kaito wanting to believe Rantaro is still a good person in spite of people's doubts would've been absolutely like him. Plus hey, you eventually got Protagonist Kaede after all!
Spoilers for all Weeby's wheel videos: Tsumugi: For crying out loud, my protagonist pick was the first victim and the producers fucked up the third motive and got our audience surrogate killed. Three people that were supposed to die before the third chapter ended up surviving this game, and the last person I wanted to get the first blood perk has been spamming porn viruses to all my email accounts ever since she got out. I just want to die and get reunited with Toko and Fuyuhiko, the other masterminds. At least they had good protagonists like Kyoko and Chiaki, not this Weeby Newz ripoff. Have your crummy happy ending, I'm fucking done.
OMG, I love all the scenarios for this one. Just take a look on Kaede's character arc - she goes from toxic positivity in chapter 1 to distrusting everyone (being friends with Kokichi and practically another antagonistic character) then when she's finally almost trusting others she gets this punch in the face with realizing her bestie Kokichi is basically evil (what he did to Kaito) and then she's our protagonist because there's no one else to take this role. As a person who love character arcs, I must say that there's a lot of potential in other arcs - Kaito gets puched in the face, realizing he can't even trust himself, Ryoma, who had no reason to live, finally is a survivor, *Kirumi,* who probably wanted to kill and escape since chapter 2, but didn't get the opportunity because Kork and after bonding with the cast she comes to the conclusion that she's not going to kill and escape alone, since she cares about this class to much... trial 5 would've been so tough for her, Kokichi just literary confronts her about the fact that she was planning a murder. I like to think that she was planning to murder Ryoma in chapter 2, but didn't get to, so when everyone finds out about it she would be infinitely apologizing to him for this and he would be like 'oh, don't worry it's ok' or smth along those lines. And Tsumugi would be hilarious, especially how she would be mad on the monokubs for *not* switching the motive videos and allowing Kork to strike a chapter before leading to Kirumi and Ryoma surviving. And we are saving Maki's arc and her crush on Kaito, that would be as sad as in the original and her arc working out would be the one thing that Tsumugi's gonna be proud of (another hilarious yet sad moment). Maki and Kaede wil become besties in the end, and I'm not listening to anyone who disagrees. Btw in chapter 6 Kaede (like Kirumi) would be confronted about her murder plan in the beginning, and Kirumi helping her would be a nice parallel. This AU just has so much potential as a fangan, omg, I'd love to see somebody make it. It also reminds me of Danganronpa Redemption at some points (which I highly recommend, though it's very weird in the beginning, just watch it and trust me)
I imagine the last trial being the rest of the cast just witnessing how both Tsumigi and Kaede go apeshit about the game, how kaede's most trusted allies died and girlbossed out of the killing game respectively, how Tsumigi had to make the ancient tactic of broadcasting the game via security cameras while Kaede ended up stupidly joining forces with "Worse Than Mastermind" Ouma to psychologically assault a spaceboy, an intermission about how at least Angie's death didn't change that much, and then back at it with the Rant(aro) about "Worse Than Mastermind" Ouma, at that point the rest of the survivors ally with the Monokubs to try and escape before Kaede and Tsumigi's Rant literally destroys the academy
19:13 Ah..how the tables turned…. Kaede : dies in first chapter Shuichi: dies in first chapter Shuichi : takes over protagonist Kaede : takes over protagonist
I did one like this for the three games. If I remember right, Tenko ended up killing Himiko in V3. That hurt my soul. But Gonta was the protag, so there's that
Tenko killing Rantaro in Chapter 3 in an attempt to end the killing game could also be interesting for Kaede's character growth if Kaede was suspicious of Rantaro beforehand (with Kaede thinking "that could have been me as the blackened"). Maybe Kaede even voiced her suspicions about Rantaro being the mastermind to Tenko (they could be close here given that Tenko was pretty supportive of Kaede in chapter 1 of the actual game) which would add a layer of guilt to everything.
Yeah. Love them both to bits. It does make sense for her. Could see her possibly making stuff for everyone to use before she enacts the murder but that might be too out of character.
From a comment I already made: Honestly, I think Miu actually won't survive even with the first blood perk. I think that in chapter 4 kokichi won't reveal his knowledge about the outside world, and simply manipulated Kaito into killing Gonta. Only in chapter 5 when he is revealed to be a blackened he shared this info and maybe even proof of Miu won the "game" but got left out in the wasteland and died (because she didn't win the "show" revealed in chapter 6).
@@internetexplorerpony So you're saying she could be an offscreen death? Another possibility could be her coming back in in some capacity when they find out about the outside world or, if Tsumugi was killed, a spare mastermind.
@@christopherbennett5858 Yea, we know once they opened the door, they nearly passed out from probably the heat and lack of oxygen. And the wording of the first blood perk is leave the facility/campus and not win the game and leave the set fully (fictional characters and all that). Don't think the mastermind will let them off the hook so easily, especially as I have theorised, her death can led to more plots point down the road.
Here is the rest of that comment since it didn't gain attention and I am proud of it: Since Ryoma survived, I think he would have joined the Kaito, Rantaro, Maki group in chapter 3 or 4 to give himself the drive to live on, probably requested by Maki after she saw Ryoma's motive and Kaito is such a bleeding heart in believing people. And after chapter 4 revealed Kaito to be the accidental blackened, he finally breaked down and listened to the last request of Kaito to live on. Later in chapter 5, he and Maki will try to converse with Kaede to lose the edge and influence of Kokichi by reasoning with her and help her through the loss of Shuichi, but with little success since she adopted trust little strategy. (new stuff) With the trial, probably Kokichi and Kaede as the protag would continuing being more of a antagonistic role - like how she acted toward Rantaro and Kaito - vs the others, maybe after Kirumi being cleared of suspicion for being the most obvious suspect, the target move to Kaede. Reason being this parallels the original v3 first trial, and it is Kokichi's back up plan to frame her. With her originally thought Kirumi is the culprit in this trial and lied to move the topic forward, unintentionally protected him, he used that fact to expose her. Kaede knowing full well she has been played (opposite of first game final trial, instead of paralleling the headmaster execution), gave up after a while. He keeps hounding her, even did a pseudo closing argument against her, but the other students gave her a chance to reveal the intention of the lie, discover an opening, and help worked out the contradiction in Kokichi's closing argument that something he shouldn't have known. For Kaede, the take away message in the end for probably is even if you can't trust others, others can still trust and have hope for you, even if you have messed up. At least let that hope guide you to have trust in yourself and the truth that comes with logic to finally point the finger at Kokichi. Making him show genuine anger and probably some mania when he tried to make fun of Kaede by pointing out she also covered for him, even if it is unintentional. What happened in chapter 5 gave Kirumi a dose of despair. Kokichi lied to give her hope that the outside world is fine when she released him, she was framed by him, and Kokichi make a remark that she, like Kaede, was still being trusting after all he has done in chapter 4. Later, she would finally learn to let go of the hope that all of Japan or even humanity is safe after they reached the door when monokuma allowed them to confirm the one major thing Kokichi never lied about. It is fucked up, at least she learned to embrace the group of people she has a connection to, and the only thing she had left. For Himiko, her apathetic demeanor probably also changed by Tenko after chapter 3 as well. But yea, sadly Kokichi being irredeemable (probably unironically enjoying the killing game, a bigger bitch compare to Togami for him to keep being evil and disruptive, maybe even kept or regain the feeling when they join the show willingly for fun as a motive) means that she sadly didn't survive even when her arc in the main game is already completed, unlike Hiyoko I guess, a bigger gut punch for her to survive one more chapter after her change of heart? (original) I liked to think a bit more about the survivers interactions because these videos talk a lot about protag, antag, victim, blackened and the mastermind but not the survivers because you never know who will be in the end. Giving their interactions some spotlight and headcanon some stuff is always nice. P.S. the first blood perk motive only said "graduate", implying leaving the campus. And in this video, the wording of the motive Weeby mentioned didn't said Miu actually win, just said leave the academy without a trial. So I take it that Miu got bamboozled.
This turn of events actually fits super well if you think about it. Before the Deadly Life of Ch3, Rantaro's support character would likely be Kaito and the rival would be Kaede as she severely distrusts him. Then, when Kaito takes over, Kaede remains the antagonistic character, and I'm not sure if there would be a support character before the next switch but I think there would be various other characters who would slightly fill that role. Then, come Chapter 4 when it switches to Kaede as the protagonist, Kokichi becomes the support character as he was antagonizing Kaito with Kaede and he's helped her realize that toxic positivity isn't the way, which by the way would be an extremely interesting character development arc by itself as it strays so far from the becoming confident or more hopeful norm. As for the antagonist by that point, it would be Himiko. She lost Angie in Ch2, then in Ch3 she realizes how insane Tenko went in her fit to try to do the right thing and kill the mastermind. So by that point she would likely want Kokichi tied up. Everything that WeebyNewz said would still apply, with that being that Kirumi still lets Kokichi go, but I could also see Kaede still visiting him from time to time beforehand as they've developed this weird bond. Plus, Ch5s tend to have a trope of making the rival the victim and the support the killer, so I think that would really fit here.
Another note about miu killing shuuichi: it would make sense for her to kill the person that would be most likely to figure out her crime if the motive was different and she didn’t girlboss her way out of the game
Kaito- No, I STILL BELIEVE IN GONTA! Kiade- Dude, you killed him. Kaito- BY ACCIDENT! HE CAN POP OUT AND END THE TRIAL AT ANY TIME! Kiade- He has a massive hole where his heart should be... Kaito- I STILL BELIEVE IN GONTA! Gonta as a ghost- I BELIEVE IN KAITO TOO!
Ok this is completely unrelated But I've been watching so much mbti content lately, so when I saw your profile picture, I had to legitimately take a moment and think "wait, where am I?"
First case: Die by falling camera Second Case: Death by sea saw. Third Case: Death by feminist. She just plan to kill Kibo but Kibo fall on Rintaro. Fourth Case Fifth Case: Who knew the gremlin was the killer Sixth Case: Bahahahahahahahahaha Oh poor Tsumugi.
Random spare suggestion: What if you did a DR crossover wheel video? Where you chose the cast among all three games (either by wheel spins, or just selecting characters that you think would be interesting for a crossover scenario like this) and did a wheel decides their fate video for that? I think it'd be interesting to see something like that for a total crossover cast, maybe even just among characters who didn't get enough screentime in their games.
Personally, for the chapter 4 motive, I always imagined that if Miu didn’t mess with the virtual world, that the characters would be stuck in it SAO style.
I’d like to think Miu is forced to be the traitor somehow in this scenario, kinda like Sakura. And knowing about everything, she rebels against the mastermind by throwing the entire killing game out of order.
It could work as either a serious fic or a crack fic. For a serious fic, it would follow Rantaro trying his best to survive, while for a crack, it would follow Tsumugi being salty as hell that her script was ruined by Miu.
_I'm so fucking sad we were so damn close to keeping my boy Gonta alive_ Having three protags,one of them getting killed and the other being a culprit is quite interesting tho if done right it could work.
Kaito would be interesting as a protagonist since we would see him get more and more sick as time went on... For only a chapter- Honestly I thought that was gonna be his motive.
Spoilers for video Kaede: what do you got to say Tsumugi Shirogane or should I say the mastermind of this killing game! Tsumugi:......... Ryoma: we’ll take that silence as a confession Tsumugi: Th- this wasn’t supposed to go like this Maki: Excuse me? Tsumugi: Th- this game it wasn’t supposed to go like this, I had everything planned you were supposed to die Kaede Kaede: Wh- WHAT! Kirumi: What do you mean supposed to die can you elaborate Tsumugi: You know what I don’t care anymore this season is ruined anyway fine I’ll explain everything, Rantaro was supposed to die in the first episode BUUUUUT NOOOOOO Miu had to screw that all up and kill the actual protagonist, not to mention the cases somehow SOMEHOW happening earlier and with the wrong motives as well, and you know what’s worst having the literal eyes for the audience killed!, THIS SEASON IS THE WORST AN ABSOLUTE MESS!, Wh- Who wrote this I sure as hell didn’t write this (The class trial becomes quiet) Tsumugi: Di- Did someone mixed the scripts up?,Oh my god The- They wouldn’t OH MY GOD THEY WOULD! (Tsumugi starts banging her head against the pedestal) Tsumugi: AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS!!!!!!, THEY USED THAT FUCKING STUPID WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL! (Tsumugi takes off glasses and sighs) Tsumugi: Let’s just..... get to the voting already Kaede: Not so fast what do you mean Worst season?, A Wheel? Tsumugi: Just forget about it let’s just get this over with, I’m the mastermind vote for me.......
>> *KAEDE:* *"HOLD IT!* (stammers in bewilderment): *_WHAT?!_* Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! *Wait a **_Goddamn_** minute!"* >> *TSUMUGI* (groans in annoyance): *_"Now_* what?!" >> *KAEDE* (angrily slams podium): "What the hell do you mean, *_'I_** was supposed to die in the first chapter?!'* Were you--?!" • Kaede has a sudden epiphany. >> *KAEDE* (quietly): "Wait a minute..." >> *MAKI:* "What is it, Kaede?" >> *KAEDE:* "Hmm.... Was she...? (thinking): _Now that I think about it... how the hell_ *did* _Tsumugi know that_ *I* _was supposed to kill Rantaro,_ _even though I actually_ *didn't...?"* -- *Choose your answer 【How did Tsumugi know of Kaede's supposed murder plot?】:* • > I told her < • > Rantaro told her < • *>>【 She eavesdropped on me and Rantaro 】> *KAEDE:* *"EUREKA!* (gasps): Wait a second...!" >> *KIRUMI:* "What's wrong, Kaede?" >> *KAEDE:* "Could it be...? (gasps)" • Flash back to whe Kaede set up her trap to try and kill the mastermind in the retail game. However, unbeknownst to her, someone was actually *eavesdropping on her and Rantaro* from behind the scenes and later used this to their advantage to *frame Kaede* for Rantaro's murder. >> *KAEDE* (thinking): _"Could it be her?_ (snarling angrily): Tsumugi, *you **_son of a bitch!"_* >> *TSUMUGI* (frustrated): "What the hell do you want *_now,_* you Goddamn murderer" [referring to Kaede]?! >> *KAEDE* (slams handgun onto podium): "You mean to tell me that you, of all people... (Colt M1911A1 .45 ACP handgun clicks) *WERE F***ING* *_EAVESDROPPING_** ON ME **_AND_** RANTARO?!"* >> *TSUMUGI* (gasps in disbelief): *"I beg your **_pardon?!"_* >> *EVERYONE* (surprised): "Wh... *_WHAT...?!"_* >> *RYOMA* (sighs in disappointment): "Way to *break the fourth wall* there, Tsmoogs..." >> *KAEDE:* "And another thing... *(slams M1911A1 onto podium)* what the hell is this I'm hearing about a *wheel* right now, as well as the *'worst* *season' of **_Danganronpa,_* in addition to me supposedly *being fated to die for Rantaro's alleged murder?"*
When I did this by myself Shuichi died in the fifth chapter, and when it turned out he was his own killer I actually cried. Just the thought of my favorite character, plus the one I relate to the most, dying... it's so interesting to see how different everyone's adventure while doing this is.
If I recall he came close to getting ready to do that in the canon chapter five as well but got interrupted at the exact moment before he could finish the thought, so that's kind of fitting as well
When I did this,Shuichi killed Maki in chapter 4,I honestly wonder how that would work out In more detail,this is what I got: -Rantaro is the protagonist -Kirumi kills Angie in Chapter 1 -Kaede kills Tsumugi in Chapter 2 -Ryoma kills Kokichi and Kaito in Chapter 3 -Shuichi kills Maki in Chapter 4 -Tenko kills Miu in Chapter 5 -The Mastermind was Himiko all along
Korekiyo's murder makes sense for the second one, because in every DR second trial, there's some kind of serial killer "reveal" or framing. Korekiyo's reveal makes sense. I think it would be awesome if he actually attempted to kill someone else and then Angie was the only victim he actually managed. Maybe he attempted to kill Kaede or something and she escaped via dumb luck and then he got Angie. In a similar way to how he killed two women before, except this time he fails one of his attempts. That'd be really cool, too, and would grow Kaede's distrust for when she goes into the protag role. Plus, Kaito being a temporary protagonist could mirror Nagito's temporary protagonist role. So instead of Kaito maintaining the protagonist role, it could be Kaede and Kaito duel welding it and simultaneously investigating each murder on their own, with Kaito investigating Rantaro's death and Kaede investigating Kiibo's death then coming together and sharing their evidence before the trial. Then you go into the class trial as Kaede, maybe? But it'd also be a gut punch if Kaito became the unknowing killer as the protag of the next trial. Edit: I love the idea of Kaede and Kokichi being close after Saihara's death... and not just because I love the Oumatsu rarepair and as a platonic soulmate situation... I'd love if Kokichi became the "helpful girl" after Kaede had been essentially playing that role for each of the class trials.
**Spoilers, if for a fairly well-known fanfic:** It's funny how you have Kaede get increasingly less trusting and even team up with Kokichi, since that's what ends up happening in I'd Trade My Life For Yours (the highest-rated Danganronpa fic on AO3, incidentally)
“Korekiyo has one of the silliest motives” Me: Remembering a real life case where a guy killed thirteen people because he thought it would stop earthquakes. Me: “…uhm…”
I really love these survivors Kaede-protag power so she survived Maki- I think maki would become important and help Kaede when she is the main character Kirumi- determined to help her people Ryoma- found out his life wasn’t a waste bcos he has new friends
K1-B0’s hint could’ve been ‘how many eyes can you/K1-B0 see through?’ or something like that. Referring to how he literally is the eyes of the killing game. So basically it’s also referring too how you would be seeing what’s going on and so would others, so people see the game through multiple eyes. Especially if he was the protagonist in some wheel spin game or something like that, because you know, it’s technically true that way since you literally are seeing through his eyes! =D
Honestly, I think Miu actually won't survive even with the first blood perk. I think that in chapter 4 kokichi won't reveal his knowledge about the outside world, and simply manipulated Kaito into killing Gonta. Only in chapter 5 when he is revealed to be a blackened he shared this info and maybe even proof of Miu won the "game" but got left out in the wasteland and died (because she didn't win the "show" revealed in chapter 6). Giving Kirumi a dose of despair by giving her hope that the outside world is fine and make fun of her still being trusting after all he has done, so she would finally let go of the hope that all of Japan or even humanity is safe and embrace the group of people she has a connection still. Also, since Ryoma survived, I think he would join the Kaito, Rantaro, Maki group in chapter 3 or 4 to give himself the drive to live on, probably requested by Maki after she saw Ryoma's motive and Kaito is such a bleeding heart in believing people. And after chapter 4 revealed Kaito to be the accidental blackened, he finally breaked down and listened to the last request of Kaito to live on. Later chapter 5, he and Maki will help Kaede lose the edge and influence of Kokichi by reasoning with her and help her through the loss of Shuichi. I liked to think a bit more about the survivers interactions because these videos talk a lot about protag, antag, victim, blackened and the mastermind but not the survivers because you never know who will be in the end.
Kokichi be like: oh really kirumi? But you freed me just to know what's going on out there and get out Isn't it your motive? Then they do a whole split opinion debate on kirumi's motive ending when kaede says "if she wanted to save japan, after hearing the whole world is gone, why would she want to go back?" (Idk like kirumi tells them about the secret to protect herself)
Rantaro and Kaede being rivals(with rantaro being the MC), I've never thought of that before... And then you become Kaede, perfection. Edit: spelling mistake
tsumugi chapter 1: it's just a little dirty it's still good it's still good tsumugi chapter 3: it's just a little slimy it's still good it's still good tsumugi chapter 6: it's just a little air born it's still good it's good monokuma: it's gone tsumugi: i know
Bruh imagine Kokichi doing a mercy kill because one of Himiko’s magic shows goes wrong and she’s in terrible pain and no one’s going to do anything etc
Boy howdy, this was a beautiful randomised mess, and well worth the wait! It really is amazing to see what happens when we let a wheel dictate everything. . . When I did V3 myself, I actually ended up getting a few similarities: - Rantaro as starter protag - Second victim Angie - Tenko and Keebo dying Chapter 3 (but mine was reversed) - A protagonist change in Chapter 4 because the protag killed - Maki, Ryoma and Miu surviving
I would honestly love as a final hurray to the dangan ronpa wheel of fate a mega mix of all characters with multiple protagonist, masterminds, victims and murderers. Dont know how it would work but it would b interesting at least.
I think a good idea for chapter 3 is that you see from Rantaro’s perspective Kiibo killing him out of distrust, and then you would be transported to Kaito. When kaito finds Rantaros body, Kiibo is dead too, and it was because Tenno killed Kiibo when she found it. It would be refreshing to have a Chapter 3 killer who’s not insane, and have a good reason to kill, even though it would’ve been a little selfish.
Rantaro records a message in case someone kills him (gets the idea from his Survivor Perk video), that's what we are shown after we watch an unidentified assailant killing our character, and then it is revealed that his best friend in this story, Kaito, is watching it, and that's our new playable protagonist. A very hype moment as he swears to find the culprit for Rantaro's murder and end the killing game, in typical Kaito fashion.
Honestly knowing that the outside world is uninhabitable Miu leaving the academy is just a death sentence unless it's like she really gets to leave like the survivers of v3 might have
Well dang, your best girls really DID all make it out alive. How about that. I also love how both Chapter 2 victims ended up survivors here. If you were to do a Survivor Killing Game, you could add the survivors of the Final Killing Game from DR3 and that would round it up to 16, the normal number for a Danganronpa cast.
I made an OC who kept questioning Monokuma (named Minikuma because this is an alternate reality and this is a much tinier Monokuma) and his actions. The killing game and things like that. So she ended up getting executed when another character committed the unliving because she got on his (Minikuma’s) nerves so much. She was dismantled and eaten by even smaller Minikuma clones. And in the chapter before that one of Minikuma’s handmade robots killed someone and was set free. Saying someone else was the killer during that trial would get everyone killed by the robot and not Minikuma. (The same thing almost happens when guessed correctly but she is stopped shortly before by Minikuma before she is freed as this was a free-kill round)
18:38 I remember something like this happening when I did this Protagonist was Kazuichi, and the partner was Teruteru. Kazuichi was chapter 1’s killer and Teruteru died in chapter 3.
For chapter three rantaro has a special 1v1 moment with kaito and he told him that he’s the ultimate survivor. Once the nighttime announcement fired off you instabt protag switch to kaito. Tenko overheard the conversation and to protect himiko from a dangerous previous participant. After killing rantaro she leaves the room and K1-B0 witnessed tenko leave. Once K1-B0 stops to talk to Tenko, she instantly panicked and attacked him to protect herself from being an exposed blackened.
For the Chapter 3 Scenario, Kaede could be explored more as the antagonist, she didn’t let go of her suspicions, and in a Kokichi fashion, decided to take a look at the group and see who she could manipulate into killing Rantaro (who she believed to be the mastermind), and it just so happened to be Tenko. In this AU Kaede is much more aware of everyone constantly analyzing them due to what her blind faith caused her in ch.1, and after looking at everyone, tenko just seemed to be the perfect pick as she was strong enough to commit the deed, and seemed to be someone that could be easily manipulated. Another reason Kaede would consider this is the motive itself; the Necronomicon (lets assume in this AU for someone to come back to life, another has to die). Although Kaede knows that it must be fake and it’s not possible to bring the dead back to life, she ends up caving in. Fast forward, Tenko kills Rantaro, and is in the process of giving Kaede the Necronomicon when Keebo spots them. On impulse Tenko ends up killing him too, as in that moment survival instincts kicked in, and even though Tenko knew she would die at the trial, Tenko still wanted to be able to see the group and himiko one last time before being deemed heartless for killing someone, and be able to enjoy their presence for the next few hours (and ig if the motive for keebo’s death is unrealistic than her killing keebo to try her chances at the trial to be able to see her master again is always another possibility). In the end, Kaede would be super confused and guilty, as the killing game was still going on even if after rantaro’s death, meaning she essentially killed three people all for the chance to see shuichi again. (shuichi would end up coming back to life in this)
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@Average Enjoyer
My thoughts exactly.
@Average Enjoyer this was probably uploaded as unlisted or private. Weeby probably has an upload schedule
I would like to see who would've sacrefised himself
NOOO! Keep the Necronomicon motive! Tenko killed because You as the protagonist went around asking everyone if they'd be willing to help, but no one wants to because they don't have interest...except Himiko, who says she'll only user her magic to help if you revive Angie. Tenko being jealous and naive believes Himiko's magic will actually help, but instead, your plan was actually to revive Shuichi since he was catching on to the mastermind and you thought he could be of some help. Keebo helps because at the time he doesn't know, but the audience survey made him help you. Tenko goes and kills both of you, thinking she's preventing Angie from coming back and taking Himiko away from her.
Your idea is great too, but the Necronomicon motives absolutely can work still!!
I wish their was 2 culprits for chapter 3
The idea of Tsumugi having a mental breakdown over this mess of a killing game because it wasn’t exactly like V3 shouldn’t be as funny as it is
Tsumugi miscalculated Miu's selfishness and everything came crumpling down from there.
"God dammit these simulations are NOT FOLLOWING THE PLAN WHAT THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN BEFORE OH NO OUR RATINGS BOB WHAT DID YOU DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
I can imagine as the trial goes on shes just getting more annoyed and frustrated. Until the last trial, she just a full blown fanfic tantrum how nothing went well
Yes please
I can imagine that after kiibo dies tsumigi implants like, robot eyes into her eyes to that the audience can still participate.
Kiyo in the main game: wanna see me kill Angie?
Kiyo in this AU: wanna see me do it again?
Tenko:NOOO!!
Poor girl can't catch a break
Kiyo:I'll f*cking do it again
Kiyo in the 2nd universe: wanna see me do that *AGAIN AGAIN?*
Kaede:Ok, this is starting to get ridiculous now.
Loosing an ultimate detective in first chapter and not even having a class trial sounds like great subversive of dangan troupes. I can almost see it happening in v3 like similar to Sayaka but at the same time original
That’s a way better subversion than…..misogyny-
For Tenko killing Rantaro: The hint she gets could be about his sisters all going missing and because of her distrust of men plus the last culprit haven been revealed to be a serial killer who targets only women, she jumps to conclusions and assumes he must be planning to kill all the women in the game. After she kills him, she discovers his hint about Keebo and decides to confront him but it doesn't go well, resulting in her gaining a second victim.
Or the hint could be something really vague about the previous killing game, like, “Rantaro knows this game well” or something like that. That’s a really good idea thingy that you thought of!
"Miu girlbossed her way out of the game" is a sentence that I know I can't hear anywhere outside of Weeby's channel, and one of the many reasons why I am a dedicated subscriber.
21:36
You mean Toilet-Papered her way out
@@emanionasile5018 oh my-
Kaito has got to scream "I STILL BELIEVE IN RANTARO" after he is already dead
"NO. I STILL BELIEVE IN GONTA"
"....He isn't a suspect"
"Oh right"
*kills him*
Don’t forget he also has to tell kokichi to shut up
@@Yoshixandir Well, that should happen regardless of timeline, even if one is dead, it will happen beyond the grave
Truuuu
Fun fact: Rantaro was originally made to be forgettable, however as the plot went on, the devs began to regret it and wished Rantaro played a larger part in the plot… but it was too late in the development of the game to change it. If Rantaro was changed to stay alive longer, the chapter 1 victim would have been Ryoma instead.
Bruh.
i could see ryoma being the first victim since the mysterious characters like rantaro and twogami and humor charaters like ryoma and teruteru normally die first.
My boy ryoma can't catch a break can he?
NOOOOOOOOO i would’ve been destroyed, why do they do my boy ryoma like that.
@@romezele he's already on death row
Kaede: look Shuichi! I made pass the first chapter!
Shuichi: And it costed my life....
LOL
LMAO
True
😭😭😭😭
he gave his life to save Kaede from the Protagonist Fridge
1:25 I swear. Kodaka really spun a wheel for V3.
Angie and Kiyo’s sister are basically besties at this point…
Underrated comment
very
Kiyo's sister is tired of hearing about Atua
“Atua Atua Atua“
“Shut up girl“
"... God I wish he killed the misandrist."
*I will never emotionally recover from this wheel*
Hey bro
Gonta betrayal felt real
Hello NPC Imapact
Hai
At least Maki survived :')
Shuichi fell hard, going from the true protagonist to the first victim.
Tsumugi getting screwed by the wheel sounds like the funniest thing that should happen in the actual game. Would love to see how annoyed she gets as nothing goes the way she had plan
Does Rantaro's secret say "This isn't his first time walking these halls"
I was thinking “This isn’t his first game” but that works too thats so ominous
@@agatha6999 I thought that would work but then I thought, Nah, Danganronpa has gotta make it sound kind of creepy and not spell it out so much
Detective Pancakes I suppose but the hint you made implies Team Danganronpa reused the exact same set as last killing game so maybe like “He and Monokuma are not strangers to each other” works too
@@agatha6999 That too, while the idea that they would not reuse a location came into mind, I feel that would be the easiest way to have the group understand the meaning while still being ominous
How bout "This Game IS Your Punishment"
I think the wheel hates the idea of male protagonists, thats why the last two protags were Kyoko and Chiaki. Thats why Hifumi lasted for 5 minutes and Rantaro and Kaito died.
It's Tenko
The wheel is Tenko
@@dragons6711 that is so true
Tenko Chabashira, the Ultimate *WHEEL*
Are we sure Tenko is the Ultimate Akido Master and not the Ultimate Wheel?
Tbh Kaede would make an interesting antagonist in this game
And I think her becoming the protagonist eventually sometime after Rantaro and kaito die is pretty natural.
And I guess Kokichi becomes the new support. I mean I guess he’s gonna be irredeemable but that’s interesting for a support to be honest. The support character not being a good person.
Edit: nvm. He dies
I think the support would end up being Ryoma, since Maki wouldn't grow to be a friend of Kaede in the same way.
@@devontekuykendall3565 I mean Kaito and Kaede are pretty similar in alot of ways, in the new danganronpa S Kaede and Maki seem to be really close friends, i think during chapter 4 Maki would want to protect Kaito but Kaede is forced to acuse him, making her relationship with Maki similar with how Shuichi and Kaito acted chapter 5
HAHA I LOVE THE “wait no. he dies.”
☝️ *【OBJECTION!】 **_"YOUR REASONING IS OFF-KEY!"_* ☝️
- *Kaede Akamatsu/Kuzuryu*
I think the survivors in this case do actually kind of fit and it would be interesting to see how Kirumi and Ryoma would react if they realized their backstories are complete "lies"
Tho the real standout moment is Maki just Girlbossing two killing games
Ryoma would be so conflicted. On one hand, he may still have people out there who are important to him. On the other hand, all his suffering was manufactured
I guess the audience from V3 got what they wanted. "This guy should've died instead of Kaede" and Shuichi died in the first chapter.
Except for me
"Hey Gonta, does fall damage exist in this world?"
"Well... Lets see! Although Gonta no can jump in virtual world. Mind giving gentleman a push?"
"Bet!"
HELP WHAT
I do like the idea that Kokichi had nothing to do with the murder itself. He just pulls a Byakuya and hides the crime. Kaito either begrudgingly goes along with it or has zero idea how all this fake evidence came to be. Kokichi’s motive could be to appear as the mastermind by making things entertaining and getting “caught.” No one would believe him if he just claimed to be the mastermind so he framed himself and tampered with the crime scene.
I really like these videos. All the speculations and theories on different characters brings back memories from first time playing the games. I think I’ll feel similar if danganronpa 4 teaser will happen. We can only hope. Makes me want to write my first fanfic
Let’s hope they will not do another game. The series ended. That’s a great ending. I don’t wanna see devs ruining it. Let’s just look forward to a new series from same developers which just might be as amazing as danganronpa. Maybe Rain code will be the one.
Do it! Make that writing, or video, or post! Just do it!
@@morutama I don't think another game will be bad. I've seen the idea of doing Rantaro's killing game or an anniversary game. It can take place between 2 and 53, so it has tons of space. But yes, I still think the ending was great and everything
@@devontekuykendall3565 THIS. EXACTLY THIS. Once I got to the point in the game where you uncover Rantaro’s identity I thought to myself “Hey it would be cool if we saw the killing game Rantaro was in.” Maybe he could be the protagonist. I feel like focusing on a past game would not have ruined V3’s ending since you could just say “it was a past killing game.”
i personally hope another game will come out i just love the franchise
Something I really like about the idea of Ryoma being a survivor is that now he can find a new reason to live (like his new friends from the killing game or something like that)
Yeah!!
I think I actually saw a popular Danganronpa fanfic that did a similar scenario
@@RozeLight was it I'd Trade My Life for Yours?
I really like the theme of this game being trust and doubt. Something interesting I could imagine at the end when Tsumugi is revealed as the mastermind is instead of the vote for hope or despair she decided to do something different since things aren’t going as intended anyway. I think a prisoners dilemma would fit the end well and be quite interesting, having to decide wether to trust or betray the group, if everyone trusts each other then they all survive and leave, if a single person betrays then the rest die while they leave alone, potentially with some sort of bonus like cash or bringing someone back to life, and if multiple people betray, then the betrayers live while the trustees die, having the killing game continue if all 4 or just 3 of them betray or the game ending if 2 of them betray with them being the survivors and the other 2 being the sacrificed to go to the next game. I think this could be added onto with tsumugi asking if they can really trust each other, with maki and ryoma being actual killers in their pasts, and kaede and kirumi having been planned to be killers. Maybe even showing footage of kaede setting up her attempted murder in chapter one. Then you’d have to convince the others to trust each other so they can finally all escape. Finally when it comes to the choice you/kaede can decide to trust and escape with everyone, or betray them and be the sole survivor.
With the betray/kill everyone, it also includes Tsumugi too, right?
If you think about it, isn’t that kind of what happened in the actual ending?
And this could make sense the name "killing harmony"
Holy crap that’s a lot of text but I see what you mean
Kiyo killing Angie again had me dying. I guess old habits die hard
Not as hard as Angie, ayo~
I think a Your Turn To Die Wheel of Fate would be really cool, when you have the time for it! It'd probably be a little more complicated than Danganronpa's spins since there's the diverging routes, but I still think it'd be fun to see even if you do end up having to take them out
There are more roles than just ‘victim’ and ‘blackened’ aswell, that could be interesting to explore :)
Here's some cool development arcs that i thought for this version:
After ch.1 Kaito would make Kaede his sidekick and start doing the night trainning with her and Maki.
Ryoma, after having watched his motive video in ch.2, would be hopeless and try to distance himself from the other participants.
Kaito would then notice this and try to give him some peptalk and invite him to do trainning with the others. Ryoma denies the invitation, but starts looking at them trainning and bonding from a distance in some nights, questioning himself if he should join them.
After Kaito gets executed at the end of ch. 4, Maki would be devastated and during one of trainning nights she would tell Kaede about the feelings she had for him and how sad she is because he's gone. Ryoma, passing by, would hear this and enter the conversation, and together with Kaede, they would share their stories about their loved ones who have also died (Kaede about Shuichi, and Ryoma about his lover). After this Maki would be comforted and Ryoma would try to find a reason to live again and would join the trainning with them.
Kirumi could also join them later as she is also lost, feeling guilt and looking for answers because of her motive video.
And by the beginning of ch.6 they would all be determined to escape, for the ones they lost and their purpose.
YEAH- Meanwhile Tsumugi is gradually Losing More and More of Her Shit as the Game Continues to the point that she goes into Mental Insanity.
The Biggest Interesting Question is how would this Story End because of How Off the Rails it has become.
Ryoma 😭
Ryoma being happy is everything I need
This would actually be super interesting. To have Shuichi die to Miu and have Kaede have to deal with how trusting someone got her friend killed and not even getting justice. Miu could also be such a wild card. Like once she escapes what happens to her? Do they wipe her memories again and give her the original memories? It'd be so cool if at the end of the game Miu comes back and destroys the set like Keebo does. This path would also be really cool because basically half way through the game all the info gathered basically vanishes and you transfer to a character that has no idea about what's going on. It'd be a great dramatic irony where the player knows more than anoyone else and maybe tries to get the MC to look at more things and uncover stuff that were already uncovered and revealed by Rantaro. Then after maybe Kaede being an antagonist in Rantaro's time and then at the end being the protagonist would really help in giving her the development of going from a trusting person to a distrusting person and then at the end finding hope again and trusting in everyone maybe even the fifth trial Kokichi being a representation of Kaede falling into despair after Shuichi's death and Kaede overcoming that and becoming the leader and getting back more of her happy personality back.
Honestly, I love V3 but this version might be a be better version if it was ever made.
This wheel was a hell of a journey, haha. And honestly, Kaito being close with Rantaro actually works considering that he was willing to believe in Maki despite her being the Ultimate Assassin getting revealed, so Kaito wanting to believe Rantaro is still a good person in spite of people's doubts would've been absolutely like him. Plus hey, you eventually got Protagonist Kaede after all!
Spoilers for all Weeby's wheel videos:
Tsumugi: For crying out loud, my protagonist pick was the first victim and the producers fucked up the third motive and got our audience surrogate killed. Three people that were supposed to die before the third chapter ended up surviving this game, and the last person I wanted to get the first blood perk has been spamming porn viruses to all my email accounts ever since she got out. I just want to die and get reunited with Toko and Fuyuhiko, the other masterminds. At least they had good protagonists like Kyoko and Chiaki, not this Weeby Newz ripoff. Have your crummy happy ending, I'm fucking done.
Yeah, that is just perfect
Miu would do that
Hahahah brilliant
Miu girlbosses her way into the data and frees everyone. The end
@@ghostlyyyyyy stan: uh fuyuhiko is still alive he was brought back thanks to the memory dive
OMG, I love all the scenarios for this one. Just take a look on Kaede's character arc - she goes from toxic positivity in chapter 1 to distrusting everyone (being friends with Kokichi and practically another antagonistic character) then when she's finally almost trusting others she gets this punch in the face with realizing her bestie Kokichi is basically evil (what he did to Kaito) and then she's our protagonist because there's no one else to take this role. As a person who love character arcs, I must say that there's a lot of potential in other arcs - Kaito gets puched in the face, realizing he can't even trust himself, Ryoma, who had no reason to live, finally is a survivor, *Kirumi,* who probably wanted to kill and escape since chapter 2, but didn't get the opportunity because Kork and after bonding with the cast she comes to the conclusion that she's not going to kill and escape alone, since she cares about this class to much... trial 5 would've been so tough for her, Kokichi just literary confronts her about the fact that she was planning a murder. I like to think that she was planning to murder Ryoma in chapter 2, but didn't get to, so when everyone finds out about it she would be infinitely apologizing to him for this and he would be like 'oh, don't worry it's ok' or smth along those lines. And Tsumugi would be hilarious, especially how she would be mad on the monokubs for *not* switching the motive videos and allowing Kork to strike a chapter before leading to Kirumi and Ryoma surviving.
And we are saving Maki's arc and her crush on Kaito, that would be as sad as in the original and her arc working out would be the one thing that Tsumugi's gonna be proud of (another hilarious yet sad moment). Maki and Kaede wil become besties in the end, and I'm not listening to anyone who disagrees. Btw in chapter 6 Kaede (like Kirumi) would be confronted about her murder plan in the beginning, and Kirumi helping her would be a nice parallel.
This AU just has so much potential as a fangan, omg, I'd love to see somebody make it. It also reminds me of Danganronpa Redemption at some points (which I highly recommend, though it's very weird in the beginning, just watch it and trust me)
would.. clair delune hit harder if KAEDE was having the chapter 6 mental breakdown?
I imagine the last trial being the rest of the cast just witnessing how both Tsumigi and Kaede go apeshit about the game, how kaede's most trusted allies died and girlbossed out of the killing game respectively, how Tsumigi had to make the ancient tactic of broadcasting the game via security cameras while Kaede ended up stupidly joining forces with "Worse Than Mastermind" Ouma to psychologically assault a spaceboy, an intermission about how at least Angie's death didn't change that much, and then back at it with the Rant(aro) about "Worse Than Mastermind" Ouma, at that point the rest of the survivors ally with the Monokubs to try and escape before Kaede and Tsumigi's Rant literally destroys the academy
19:13 Ah..how the tables turned….
Kaede : dies in first chapter
Shuichi: dies in first chapter
Shuichi : takes over protagonist
Kaede : takes over protagonist
took her 4 chapters but she did it
I did one like this for the three games. If I remember right, Tenko ended up killing Himiko in V3. That hurt my soul. But Gonta was the protag, so there's that
I KNOW Gonta's internal dialogue must be hilarious.
@@rachael5300 right??? Haven't even started writing it, and I'm already picturing him trying to figure out his way through the class trials
@@holopearl1829 GONTA THINK THAT WRONG
@@kkTeaz GONTA CUT THROUGH YOUR WORDS
I got Korekiyo as the protagonist and the mastermind. Also, Kokichi murdered Kaito in Chapter 2, so that was low-key funny.
Tenko killing Rantaro in Chapter 3 in an attempt to end the killing game could also be interesting for Kaede's character growth if Kaede was suspicious of Rantaro beforehand (with Kaede thinking "that could have been me as the blackened").
Maybe Kaede even voiced her suspicions about Rantaro being the mastermind to Tenko (they could be close here given that Tenko was pretty supportive of Kaede in chapter 1 of the actual game) which would add a layer of guilt to everything.
As someone whose fav is Miu, idk how to feel LMAO While she did survive, I’m not happy about her killing Shuichi
Yeah. Love them both to bits. It does make sense for her. Could see her possibly making stuff for everyone to use before she enacts the murder but that might be too out of character.
From a comment I already made:
Honestly, I think Miu actually won't survive even with the first blood perk. I think that in chapter 4 kokichi won't reveal his knowledge about the outside world, and simply manipulated Kaito into killing Gonta. Only in chapter 5 when he is revealed to be a blackened he shared this info and maybe even proof of Miu won the "game" but got left out in the wasteland and died (because she didn't win the "show" revealed in chapter 6).
@@internetexplorerpony So you're saying she could be an offscreen death? Another possibility could be her coming back in in some capacity when they find out about the outside world or, if Tsumugi was killed, a spare mastermind.
@@christopherbennett5858 Yea, we know once they opened the door, they nearly passed out from probably the heat and lack of oxygen. And the wording of the first blood perk is leave the facility/campus and not win the game and leave the set fully (fictional characters and all that). Don't think the mastermind will let them off the hook so easily, especially as I have theorised, her death can led to more plots point down the road.
Here is the rest of that comment since it didn't gain attention and I am proud of it:
Since Ryoma survived, I think he would have joined the Kaito, Rantaro, Maki group in chapter 3 or 4 to give himself the drive to live on, probably requested by Maki after she saw Ryoma's motive and Kaito is such a bleeding heart in believing people. And after chapter 4 revealed Kaito to be the accidental blackened, he finally breaked down and listened to the last request of Kaito to live on.
Later in chapter 5, he and Maki will try to converse with Kaede to lose the edge and influence of Kokichi by reasoning with her and help her through the loss of Shuichi, but with little success since she adopted trust little strategy. (new stuff) With the trial, probably Kokichi and Kaede as the protag would continuing being more of a antagonistic role - like how she acted toward Rantaro and Kaito - vs the others, maybe after Kirumi being cleared of suspicion for being the most obvious suspect, the target move to Kaede. Reason being this parallels the original v3 first trial, and it is Kokichi's back up plan to frame her. With her originally thought Kirumi is the culprit in this trial and lied to move the topic forward, unintentionally protected him, he used that fact to expose her. Kaede knowing full well she has been played (opposite of first game final trial, instead of paralleling the headmaster execution), gave up after a while. He keeps hounding her, even did a pseudo closing argument against her, but the other students gave her a chance to reveal the intention of the lie, discover an opening, and help worked out the contradiction in Kokichi's closing argument that something he shouldn't have known. For Kaede, the take away message in the end for probably is even if you can't trust others, others can still trust and have hope for you, even if you have messed up. At least let that hope guide you to have trust in yourself and the truth that comes with logic to finally point the finger at Kokichi. Making him show genuine anger and probably some mania when he tried to make fun of Kaede by pointing out she also covered for him, even if it is unintentional.
What happened in chapter 5 gave Kirumi a dose of despair. Kokichi lied to give her hope that the outside world is fine when she released him, she was framed by him, and Kokichi make a remark that she, like Kaede, was still being trusting after all he has done in chapter 4. Later, she would finally learn to let go of the hope that all of Japan or even humanity is safe after they reached the door when monokuma allowed them to confirm the one major thing Kokichi never lied about. It is fucked up, at least she learned to embrace the group of people she has a connection to, and the only thing she had left.
For Himiko, her apathetic demeanor probably also changed by Tenko after chapter 3 as well. But yea, sadly Kokichi being irredeemable (probably unironically enjoying the killing game, a bigger bitch compare to Togami for him to keep being evil and disruptive, maybe even kept or regain the feeling when they join the show willingly for fun as a motive) means that she sadly didn't survive even when her arc in the main game is already completed, unlike Hiyoko I guess, a bigger gut punch for her to survive one more chapter after her change of heart?
(original) I liked to think a bit more about the survivers interactions because these videos talk a lot about protag, antag, victim, blackened and the mastermind but not the survivers because you never know who will be in the end. Giving their interactions some spotlight and headcanon some stuff is always nice.
P.S. the first blood perk motive only said "graduate", implying leaving the campus. And in this video, the wording of the motive Weeby mentioned didn't said Miu actually win, just said leave the academy without a trial. So I take it that Miu got bamboozled.
This turn of events actually fits super well if you think about it. Before the Deadly Life of Ch3, Rantaro's support character would likely be Kaito and the rival would be Kaede as she severely distrusts him. Then, when Kaito takes over, Kaede remains the antagonistic character, and I'm not sure if there would be a support character before the next switch but I think there would be various other characters who would slightly fill that role.
Then, come Chapter 4 when it switches to Kaede as the protagonist, Kokichi becomes the support character as he was antagonizing Kaito with Kaede and he's helped her realize that toxic positivity isn't the way, which by the way would be an extremely interesting character development arc by itself as it strays so far from the becoming confident or more hopeful norm. As for the antagonist by that point, it would be Himiko. She lost Angie in Ch2, then in Ch3 she realizes how insane Tenko went in her fit to try to do the right thing and kill the mastermind. So by that point she would likely want Kokichi tied up.
Everything that WeebyNewz said would still apply, with that being that Kirumi still lets Kokichi go, but I could also see Kaede still visiting him from time to time beforehand as they've developed this weird bond. Plus, Ch5s tend to have a trope of making the rival the victim and the support the killer, so I think that would really fit here.
Honestly Maki is still alive so she can be his support
Rantaro: Mom said it was my turn to be protag-
Kaito : No me!
Kaede: Heh.
Another note about miu killing shuuichi: it would make sense for her to kill the person that would be most likely to figure out her crime if the motive was different and she didn’t girlboss her way out of the game
Kaito- No, I STILL BELIEVE IN GONTA!
Kiade- Dude, you killed him.
Kaito- BY ACCIDENT! HE CAN POP OUT AND END THE TRIAL AT ANY TIME!
Kiade- He has a massive hole where his heart should be...
Kaito- I STILL BELIEVE IN GONTA!
Gonta as a ghost- I BELIEVE IN KAITO TOO!
Himiko- NYEEEH!? WHAT SORCERY IS THIS!?!
Kaito: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IS THAT A SPIRIT!?!
Tusmugi and Monokuma- 'sweats '
Gonta: GONTA NOT DEAD! GONTA HERE WITH YOU ALL!
Kokichi: Nah dude. Ya dead!
maki: this is stupid do you wanna die?
Kaede: GUYS FOCUS ON THE TRIALS
The thought of tsumugi having a mental breakdown because her plan didn't work is really funny
1:23 “Kaede is my favorite character” *proceeds to throw so much shade*
Only OGs remember when people were making theories left and right bout Kaede being Weeby's long lost sister.
Ok this is completely unrelated
But I've been watching so much mbti content lately, so when I saw your profile picture, I had to legitimately take a moment and think "wait, where am I?"
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Haha, you aren't the first one to tell me that !
@@serena841 cool, I'm not the only one loosing their mind :D
*Danganropa V3 by Weeby News:* *[Exist]*
*Tsumugi:* *[Angry Mastermind Noises]*
*_(repeated bleeping)_*
First case: Die by falling camera
Second Case: Death by sea saw.
Third Case: Death by feminist. She just plan to kill Kibo but Kibo fall on Rintaro.
Fourth Case
Fifth Case: Who knew the gremlin was the killer
Sixth Case: Bahahahahahahahahaha Oh poor Tsumugi.
Random spare suggestion: What if you did a DR crossover wheel video? Where you chose the cast among all three games (either by wheel spins, or just selecting characters that you think would be interesting for a crossover scenario like this) and did a wheel decides their fate video for that? I think it'd be interesting to see something like that for a total crossover cast, maybe even just among characters who didn't get enough screentime in their games.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. These vids are always chaotic. Kokichi really said no magic in this household
Personally, for the chapter 4 motive, I always imagined that if Miu didn’t mess with the virtual world, that the characters would be stuck in it SAO style.
I’d like to think Miu is forced to be the traitor somehow in this scenario, kinda like Sakura. And knowing about everything, she rebels against the mastermind by throwing the entire killing game out of order.
Shuichi and Rantaro really switched places 🤣
3:52 No, Weeby, whoever you have on your shirt is guaranteed to take Kaede's place as the first killer.
I would love to see this turned into a full fanfiction.
It could work as either a serious fic or a crack fic. For a serious fic, it would follow Rantaro trying his best to survive, while for a crack, it would follow Tsumugi being salty as hell that her script was ruined by Miu.
_I'm so fucking sad we were so damn close to keeping my boy Gonta alive_
Having three protags,one of them getting killed and the other being a culprit is quite interesting tho if done right it could work.
Kaito would be interesting as a protagonist since we would see him get more and more sick as time went on... For only a chapter-
Honestly I thought that was gonna be his motive.
Spoilers for video
Kaede: what do you got to say Tsumugi Shirogane or should I say the mastermind of this killing game!
Tsumugi:.........
Ryoma: we’ll take that silence as a confession
Tsumugi: Th- this wasn’t supposed to go like this
Maki: Excuse me?
Tsumugi: Th- this game it wasn’t supposed to go like this, I had everything planned you were supposed to die Kaede
Kaede: Wh- WHAT!
Kirumi: What do you mean supposed to die can you elaborate
Tsumugi: You know what I don’t care anymore this season is ruined anyway fine I’ll explain everything, Rantaro was supposed to die in the first episode BUUUUUT NOOOOOO Miu had to screw that all up and kill the actual protagonist, not to mention the cases somehow SOMEHOW happening earlier and with the wrong motives as well, and you know what’s worst having the literal eyes for the audience killed!, THIS SEASON IS THE WORST AN ABSOLUTE MESS!, Wh- Who wrote this I sure as hell didn’t write this
(The class trial becomes quiet)
Tsumugi: Di- Did someone mixed the scripts up?,Oh my god The- They wouldn’t OH MY GOD THEY WOULD!
(Tsumugi starts banging her head against the pedestal)
Tsumugi: AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS!!!!!!, THEY USED THAT FUCKING STUPID WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!
(Tsumugi takes off glasses and sighs)
Tsumugi: Let’s just..... get to the voting already
Kaede: Not so fast what do you mean Worst season?, A Wheel?
Tsumugi: Just forget about it let’s just get this over with, I’m the mastermind vote for me.......
PERFECTION
I approve
>> *KAEDE:* *"HOLD IT!* (stammers in bewilderment): *_WHAT?!_* Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! *Wait a **_Goddamn_** minute!"*
>> *TSUMUGI* (groans in annoyance): *_"Now_* what?!"
>> *KAEDE* (angrily slams podium): "What the hell do you mean, *_'I_** was supposed to die in the first chapter?!'* Were you--?!"
• Kaede has a sudden epiphany.
>> *KAEDE* (quietly): "Wait a minute..."
>> *MAKI:* "What is it, Kaede?"
>> *KAEDE:* "Hmm.... Was she...? (thinking): _Now that I think about it... how the hell_ *did* _Tsumugi know that_ *I* _was supposed to kill Rantaro,_
_even though I actually_ *didn't...?"*
-- *Choose your answer 【How did Tsumugi know of Kaede's supposed murder plot?】:*
• > I told her <
• > Rantaro told her <
• *>>【 She eavesdropped on me and Rantaro 】> *KAEDE:* *"EUREKA!* (gasps): Wait a second...!"
>> *KIRUMI:* "What's wrong, Kaede?"
>> *KAEDE:* "Could it be...? (gasps)"
• Flash back to whe Kaede set up her trap to try and kill the mastermind in the retail game. However, unbeknownst to her, someone was actually
*eavesdropping on her and Rantaro* from behind the scenes and later used this to their advantage to *frame Kaede* for Rantaro's murder.
>> *KAEDE* (thinking): _"Could it be her?_ (snarling angrily): Tsumugi, *you **_son of a bitch!"_*
>> *TSUMUGI* (frustrated): "What the hell do you want *_now,_* you Goddamn murderer" [referring to Kaede]?!
>> *KAEDE* (slams handgun onto podium): "You mean to tell me that you, of all people... (Colt M1911A1 .45 ACP handgun clicks) *WERE F***ING*
*_EAVESDROPPING_** ON ME **_AND_** RANTARO?!"*
>> *TSUMUGI* (gasps in disbelief): *"I beg your **_pardon?!"_*
>> *EVERYONE* (surprised): "Wh... *_WHAT...?!"_*
>> *RYOMA* (sighs in disappointment): "Way to *break the fourth wall* there, Tsmoogs..."
>> *KAEDE:* "And another thing... *(slams M1911A1 onto podium)* what the hell is this I'm hearing about a *wheel* right now, as well as the *'worst*
*season' of **_Danganronpa,_* in addition to me supposedly *being fated to die for Rantaro's alleged murder?"*
The ghosts of the dead participants casually eating popcorn in the background.
When I did this by myself Shuichi died in the fifth chapter, and when it turned out he was his own killer I actually cried. Just the thought of my favorite character, plus the one I relate to the most, dying... it's so interesting to see how different everyone's adventure while doing this is.
If I recall he came close to getting ready to do that in the canon chapter five as well but got interrupted at the exact moment before he could finish the thought, so that's kind of fitting as well
When I did this,Shuichi killed Maki in chapter 4,I honestly wonder how that would work out
In more detail,this is what I got:
-Rantaro is the protagonist
-Kirumi kills Angie in Chapter 1
-Kaede kills Tsumugi in Chapter 2
-Ryoma kills Kokichi and Kaito in Chapter 3
-Shuichi kills Maki in Chapter 4
-Tenko kills Miu in Chapter 5
-The Mastermind was Himiko all along
Ryoma: survives
Me: *happy fangirl noises*
Yasssss same
Korekiyo's murder makes sense for the second one, because in every DR second trial, there's some kind of serial killer "reveal" or framing. Korekiyo's reveal makes sense. I think it would be awesome if he actually attempted to kill someone else and then Angie was the only victim he actually managed. Maybe he attempted to kill Kaede or something and she escaped via dumb luck and then he got Angie. In a similar way to how he killed two women before, except this time he fails one of his attempts. That'd be really cool, too, and would grow Kaede's distrust for when she goes into the protag role.
Plus, Kaito being a temporary protagonist could mirror Nagito's temporary protagonist role. So instead of Kaito maintaining the protagonist role, it could be Kaede and Kaito duel welding it and simultaneously investigating each murder on their own, with Kaito investigating Rantaro's death and Kaede investigating Kiibo's death then coming together and sharing their evidence before the trial. Then you go into the class trial as Kaede, maybe? But it'd also be a gut punch if Kaito became the unknowing killer as the protag of the next trial.
Edit: I love the idea of Kaede and Kokichi being close after Saihara's death... and not just because I love the Oumatsu rarepair and as a platonic soulmate situation... I'd love if Kokichi became the "helpful girl" after Kaede had been essentially playing that role for each of the class trials.
**Spoilers, if for a fairly well-known fanfic:** It's funny how you have Kaede get increasingly less trusting and even team up with Kokichi, since that's what ends up happening in I'd Trade My Life For Yours (the highest-rated Danganronpa fic on AO3, incidentally)
All roads lead back to Kaede being the protagonist
“Korekiyo has one of the silliest motives”
Me: Remembering a real life case where a guy killed thirteen people because he thought it would stop earthquakes.
Me: “…uhm…”
Kirumi and Ryoma are my favorite characters in dr so i was SWEATING this whole time (yes i was destroyed in chapter two)
I'm so happy both of them got to live!!
MY BOI RYOMA LIVES YESS
Oh good, I'm not alone in that respect. Glad to know that Ryoma and Kirumi are getting some love!
@@thenerd-bot9847 bro i was actually sobbing my eyes out when i first experienced chapter two
Ryoma squad represent 💜
I really love these survivors
Kaede-protag power so she survived
Maki- I think maki would become important and help Kaede when she is the main character
Kirumi- determined to help her people
Ryoma- found out his life wasn’t a waste bcos he has new friends
K1-B0’s hint could’ve been ‘how many eyes can you/K1-B0 see through?’ or something like that. Referring to how he literally is the eyes of the killing game. So basically it’s also referring too how you would be seeing what’s going on and so would others, so people see the game through multiple eyes.
Especially if he was the protagonist in some wheel spin game or something like that, because you know, it’s technically true that way since you literally are seeing through his eyes! =D
19:43 i thought the chair was rantaro's LONG ahoge lol oop
Maki should be called the Ultimate Survivor. Lol.
this was the punishment during the 6th trial ‼️
Congratulations! You got your perfect protagonist trio
It only took 3 protagonist deaths
*_*Two_*
13:40 what about a motive where the killer can graduate with a guest of their choice
Honestly, I think Miu actually won't survive even with the first blood perk. I think that in chapter 4 kokichi won't reveal his knowledge about the outside world, and simply manipulated Kaito into killing Gonta. Only in chapter 5 when he is revealed to be a blackened he shared this info and maybe even proof of Miu won the "game" but got left out in the wasteland and died (because she didn't win the "show" revealed in chapter 6). Giving Kirumi a dose of despair by giving her hope that the outside world is fine and make fun of her still being trusting after all he has done, so she would finally let go of the hope that all of Japan or even humanity is safe and embrace the group of people she has a connection still.
Also, since Ryoma survived, I think he would join the Kaito, Rantaro, Maki group in chapter 3 or 4 to give himself the drive to live on, probably requested by Maki after she saw Ryoma's motive and Kaito is such a bleeding heart in believing people. And after chapter 4 revealed Kaito to be the accidental blackened, he finally breaked down and listened to the last request of Kaito to live on. Later chapter 5, he and Maki will help Kaede lose the edge and influence of Kokichi by reasoning with her and help her through the loss of Shuichi.
I liked to think a bit more about the survivers interactions because these videos talk a lot about protag, antag, victim, blackened and the mastermind but not the survivers because you never know who will be in the end.
Angie and Korekiyo really said
“Some things never change”
Kokichi be like: oh really kirumi? But you freed me just to know what's going on out there and get out
Isn't it your motive?
Then they do a whole split opinion debate on kirumi's motive ending when kaede says "if she wanted to save japan, after hearing the whole world is gone, why would she want to go back?" (Idk like kirumi tells them about the secret to protect herself)
Kokichi: Wanna see me horribly minipulate someone for fun?
Kokichi: That was fun, lets do it again!
Rantaro and Kaede being rivals(with rantaro being the MC), I've never thought of that before...
And then you become Kaede, perfection.
Edit: spelling mistake
tsumugi chapter 1: it's just a little dirty it's still good it's still good
tsumugi chapter 3: it's just a little slimy it's still good it's still good
tsumugi chapter 6: it's just a little air born it's still good it's good
monokuma: it's gone
tsumugi: i know
Bruh imagine Kokichi doing a mercy kill because one of Himiko’s magic shows goes wrong and she’s in terrible pain and no one’s going to do anything etc
the secret kokichi got in the 3rd chapter was kirumi's i think it would be interesting if kokichi was learning small thing leading up to chapter 5
“At least you lasted longer than Hifumi.”
… Damnit, Weeby! XD
She ain't wrong, though...
She literally cares about every character except my two favorites, Himiko and Kiyo
Tsumugi gets screwed over by the wheel and gives up on the killing game…
WAY better than the actual game imo. It made me laugh.
Finally. Someone with a musical talent survived.
Kirumi : *survivas*
Aeris : *happy enby nosies*
19:06 I love the way you lit up when it approached Kaede here.
Boy howdy, this was a beautiful randomised mess, and well worth the wait! It really is amazing to see what happens when we let a wheel dictate everything.
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When I did V3 myself, I actually ended up getting a few similarities:
- Rantaro as starter protag
- Second victim Angie
- Tenko and Keebo dying Chapter 3 (but mine was reversed)
- A protagonist change in Chapter 4 because the protag killed
- Maki, Ryoma and Miu surviving
"It can't be that bad-"
*first victim: shu*
"I will never emotionally recover from this"
Kaito: “I still believe in Gonta!”
Kaito two seconds later: *I lied*
I would honestly love as a final hurray to the dangan ronpa wheel of fate a mega mix of all characters with multiple protagonist, masterminds, victims and murderers. Dont know how it would work but it would b interesting at least.
I think a good idea for chapter 3 is that you see from Rantaro’s perspective Kiibo killing him out of distrust, and then you would be transported to Kaito. When kaito finds Rantaros body, Kiibo is dead too, and it was because Tenno killed Kiibo when she found it. It would be refreshing to have a Chapter 3 killer who’s not insane, and have a good reason to kill, even though it would’ve been a little selfish.
Rantaro records a message in case someone kills him (gets the idea from his Survivor Perk video), that's what we are shown after we watch an unidentified assailant killing our character, and then it is revealed that his best friend in this story, Kaito, is watching it, and that's our new playable protagonist. A very hype moment as he swears to find the culprit for Rantaro's murder and end the killing game, in typical Kaito fashion.
Honestly knowing that the outside world is uninhabitable Miu leaving the academy is just a death sentence unless it's like she really gets to leave like the survivers of v3 might have
Yay Kaede survived this time 🥳
Also good for you for getting that sponsorship
That's awesome Weeby 👍
Loved Tsumugi's breakdown over the horrible DR season
May I just say how ABSOLUTELY STUNNING YOU ARE, also, I love how you thought of a lot of different scenarios.
THE PROTAGS ARE DROPPING LIKE FLIES
I was so upset over Miu dying early, but her escaping the killing game is exactly what the queen deserves
Rantaro at 10:19 got a super long ahoge before dying
I absolutely adore the idea of Tsumugi having a mental breakdown at the last trial 😂
Tsumugi just ranting about how fucking angry she is at the others for messing up the whole thing would be so hilarious tho-
Well dang, your best girls really DID all make it out alive. How about that.
I also love how both Chapter 2 victims ended up survivors here.
If you were to do a Survivor Killing Game, you could add the survivors of the Final Killing Game from DR3 and that would round it up to 16, the normal number for a Danganronpa cast.
I made an OC who kept questioning Monokuma (named Minikuma because this is an alternate reality and this is a much tinier Monokuma) and his actions. The killing game and things like that. So she ended up getting executed when another character committed the unliving because she got on his (Minikuma’s) nerves so much. She was dismantled and eaten by even smaller Minikuma clones. And in the chapter before that one of Minikuma’s handmade robots killed someone and was set free. Saying someone else was the killer during that trial would get everyone killed by the robot and not Minikuma. (The same thing almost happens when guessed correctly but she is stopped shortly before by Minikuma before she is freed as this was a free-kill round)
18:38 I remember something like this happening when I did this
Protagonist was Kazuichi, and the partner was Teruteru.
Kazuichi was chapter 1’s killer and Teruteru died in chapter 3.
For chapter three rantaro has a special 1v1 moment with kaito and he told him that he’s the ultimate survivor. Once the nighttime announcement fired off you instabt protag switch to kaito. Tenko overheard the conversation and to protect himiko from a dangerous previous participant. After killing rantaro she leaves the room and K1-B0 witnessed tenko leave. Once K1-B0 stops to talk to Tenko, she instantly panicked and attacked him to protect herself from being an exposed blackened.
For the Chapter 3 Scenario, Kaede could be explored more as the antagonist, she didn’t let go of her suspicions, and in a Kokichi fashion, decided to take a look at the group and see who she could manipulate into killing Rantaro (who she believed to be the mastermind), and it just so happened to be Tenko. In this AU Kaede is much more aware of everyone constantly analyzing them due to what her blind faith caused her in ch.1, and after looking at everyone, tenko just seemed to be the perfect pick as she was strong enough to commit the deed, and seemed to be someone that could be easily manipulated. Another reason Kaede would consider this is the motive itself; the Necronomicon (lets assume in this AU for someone to come back to life, another has to die). Although Kaede knows that it must be fake and it’s not possible to bring the dead back to life, she ends up caving in. Fast forward, Tenko kills Rantaro, and is in the process of giving Kaede the Necronomicon when Keebo spots them. On impulse Tenko ends up killing him too, as in that moment survival instincts kicked in, and even though Tenko knew she would die at the trial, Tenko still wanted to be able to see the group and himiko one last time before being deemed heartless for killing someone, and be able to enjoy their presence for the next few hours (and ig if the motive for keebo’s death is unrealistic than her killing keebo to try her chances at the trial to be able to see her master again is always another possibility). In the end, Kaede would be super confused and guilty, as the killing game was still going on even if after rantaro’s death, meaning she essentially killed three people all for the chance to see shuichi again. (shuichi would end up coming back to life in this)