I greatly appreciate Dr. Siegel"s book but , as many Enneagram books do, I feel Type 4's are misunderstood. Or is this just my "pattern" 😂 I don't want to be " seen" but Known. The Hebrew word "Yada" describes this perfectly , "This Hebrew word for show is hodi’eni, which comes from the root word yada’, an “intimate knowing.” The word yada’ is often used to describe intercourse between a man and woman. The idea is that this kind of intimate union is meant to be the highest and ultimate form of knowing someone. To truly enter into this, a couple must know each other so well that they have no secrets, no hidden agendas. They know things about each other that no one else in the world knows, and they trust each other completely with that knowledge. They enter that relationship only wanting to please their mate, whether they themselves are pleased in return or not." Without this "knowing " Love is impossible. This Knowing would lead to Perichoresis, "Perichoresis means mutual indwelling, or interpenetration, without loss of individuality: “The doctrine of the perichoresis links together in a brilliant way the threeness and the unity, without reducing the threeness to the unity, or dissolving the unity in the threeness.” The Persons pass into one another and contain one another without losing themselves. When one weeps, the other tastes salt, yet they never get so entangled or enmeshed that they lose themselves and become one another." I have been told " you just want to fit in" by many Enneagram coaches and counselors. Truly this is not the case. Fitting in would be to lose myself to the whole to be used efficiently. I prefer Belonging where my individuality and "weirdness" is maintained within the whole in a participatory manner. I believe this is more than a craving for the womb. I have met other Enneagram 4 who see the womb as nothing but geography as Motherhood was denied due to temperament or situational. To long for this knowing- Yada and Intimacy- Perichoresis implies that something deep inside us knows there is more. Why else would we Long for and seek this Experience? Gruess Gott
I greatly appreciate Dr. Siegel"s book but , as many Enneagram books do, I feel Type 4's are misunderstood.
Or is this just my "pattern" 😂
I don't want to be " seen" but Known.
The Hebrew word "Yada" describes this perfectly ,
"This Hebrew word for show is hodi’eni, which comes from the root word yada’, an “intimate knowing.” The word yada’ is often used to describe intercourse between a man and woman. The idea is that this kind of intimate union is meant to be the highest and ultimate form of knowing someone. To truly enter into this, a couple must know each other so well that they have no secrets, no hidden agendas. They know things about each other that no one else in the world knows, and they trust each other completely with that knowledge. They enter that relationship only wanting to please their mate, whether they themselves are pleased in return or not."
Without this "knowing " Love is impossible.
This Knowing would lead to Perichoresis,
"Perichoresis means mutual indwelling, or interpenetration, without loss of individuality: “The doctrine of the perichoresis links together in a brilliant way the threeness and the unity, without reducing the threeness to the unity, or dissolving the unity in the threeness.”
The Persons pass into one another and contain one another without losing themselves. When one weeps, the other tastes salt, yet they never get so entangled or enmeshed that they lose themselves and become one another."
I have been told " you just want to fit in" by many Enneagram coaches and counselors.
Truly this is not the case. Fitting in would be to lose myself to the whole to be used efficiently.
I prefer Belonging where my individuality and "weirdness" is maintained within the whole in a participatory manner.
I believe this is more than a craving for the womb. I have met other Enneagram 4 who see the womb as nothing but geography as Motherhood was denied due to temperament or situational. To long for this knowing- Yada and Intimacy- Perichoresis implies that something deep inside us knows there is more.
Why else would we Long for and seek this Experience?
Gruess Gott