LS HOW TO: 500-HP POWER RECIPES
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- FULL LS RESULTS!! HOW TO-DYNO PROVEN HP! LS HP Recipes. How to make 500 hp with a 4.8L, 5.3L, 5.7L, 6.0L and 6.2L. Check out the combination of components required to make 500 hp with each of the LS displacements. This is part 2, back in part 1 covered 400 hp. Next up in part 3, we cover 600 hp!
Bro it's like 2:30 am and this dude out here givin us the power recipes 👌 praise this man
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he exploiting the crabby patty formulas
Hey bud, Do you have a video, where your trying to squeeze everything you can out of a n/a 5.7?
It's currently 2:09 a.m and your comment was the first I saw.
Thank you for including the 5.7
How can you get a 5.7 up to 600 700 horses with a stock bottom in
@@jamalmoore1025you can’t
@@wyatt2om474you can, once
Your Corona/medical advice made infinitely more sense than most of what I’ve heard over the last 2 years
Thanks for the 5.7 litre combo, us Aussies love 5.7’s and 6.0’s and 6.2’s. We love LS’s
475 horses out of 290 cubic inches and you didn't kill the low end torque, that's Black Magic right there.
I wish i had run a bigger cam and milled the heads
@@richardholdener1727 Me, same cam but 13 to 1 running E85. Then try the big cam.
I thought the same thing. I'd like to see that top end/cam on a 6.0.
@@tedgay8427 - we probably will on the next video. ;)
Ted Gay yes please
Shout out from Australia!... FINALLY an LS1 5.7L test lol!.... they are our junk yard motors... Mind you we still have to spend a couple of grand to get one so we tend to not “waste” them too much!
Great test and 👍👍 for the time taken for my entertainment Richard!
ktmr8 Me too. I have a HJ75 Landcruiser with an LS1
In time when the news is so negative waking up in the morning that you will have a new video up is definitely refreshing. Thanks!
“You can’t write me a ticket officer. I have a prescription from Dr Holdener. This is medicinal tire smoke.”
That 4.8L is a screamer.
Medicinal tire smoke! 😂😂😂😂
Richard, you deserve an award for sharing this information. Thanks! Also first!!!!! Lolololol. One suggestion, add the cost to each power band so we can see if it is just easier and more cost effective to go to a whirly Boi
its cheaper to go turbo always
I've been watching your stuff for a little over a month. Wish I would have found it sooner. I love all the combinations. Thanks for what you do. Definitely known how to keep viewers attention.
Richard your videos by far are the best on youtube always interesting and to the point. I always learn something new and you can't ask for anything better than being entertained and learning about your hobbies at the same time. Keep up the good work.
thnx
That last comparison screen really makes a point. With enough rpm, a small amount of torque will give you the power, but more cubes means more torque where you’re going to use it on the street. I found it amazing that the 5.7 made the 500 hp with such a small cam. Most 5.3 blocks can take that 3.900 bore, and that might be easier than finding a 6.0... Another amazing presentation! By far my favorite channel.
I'm a little suspect of the 5.7L power numbers
@@richardholdener1727 there was a yt vid of a guy running a 5.7 on the drag track burning everything up with it. In a gen4 camaro I think.
Nice one Richard. Thanks so much for the trial and less error testing for us!
LS3 LLoves cam's and boost. True words, My LS3 with LS9 cam and AGP twins made 605 at the wheels with low 15deg timing on pump 93. I feel the heads are a huge factor in these making so much power. I've seen several tests with the different heads in the LS family. What I would like to see is the new LT heads, if you Tig the Injector port closed and mount them on the LS family, they are said to out flow even the 823 heads stock. I was told by a head shop the stud pattern is the same.
I think that 4.8 is a killer combo, if the 5.3 had the same top end as the 4.8 I bet it would have made at least 500 with more average power. If you look close you can see that the 4.8 didn’t loose any low end
Back in 2008, I used Dart heads on my LS1 with a too big cam from Futral. With the LS6 intake, ported stock TB, catted longtubes, Borla catback, SLP lid, 4.10 gears, and tune I made 430 rwhp. I ran 121 mph on street tires. Lesson learned, check Dart's valve guides as mine were junk brand new and after pulling them and getting them resleeved as it was drinking a quart of oil every 1,000 miles, it spun a rod bearing on the subsequent re-tuning pull.
I know this is “ls how to” but I’d like to see the same thing with a small block and big block Chevy.
Another video idea “should you build a big block or ls for your hot rod?” I’d like to see a dollar per horsepower comparison at a few different horsepower levels.
Richard is the most accessible engine guru of these modern times
I've been watching your videos for a year.... Thank you.
Thanks for throwing in that 5.7♥️
6.2 recipe: Leave all plug wires connected.
I was tempted to pull 1 or 2
Best comment ever
lol....yeah just pretty much leave the 6.2 alone cause it runs good anyhow
Can’t hardly wait for the 600hp vid.
Thanks for showing some love for our 5.7 ls1, im running 5.7 stock bottom end trickflow 215 heads and 220 224 trick flow cam, bbk intake, 400rwhp 398rwtq thrue a m6 with a strange 60 rear end, .. thinking of upgrading my cam soon so your videos are helping a lot..
Bang shifting a 4.8l at 7500 rpm seems like a really good time. :)
BlindBatG34 amen that 4.8 combo looks pretty nice
I'm most impressed how little bore and stroke the 5.7 has over the 5.3 and the power curve is that big of a difference. Always seems like the 5.7 gets overlooked, wish I went that route Instead of 5.3 in my truck
Yes but you saved $2000 on the purchase of the engine
5.3, 5.7, 6.0, and 6.2 LS engines all share the same stroke. Only the bore changes with each displacement change. I imagine that the higher compression that the ls1 is sporting, as well as the larger bore unshrouding the valves a bit more, are the likely factors in its dramatic difference vs the 5.3. Since many 5.3 blocks can take an over bore to reach the ls1 bore, building an iron block ls1 is a pretty straight forward process.
@@ShyaMiss by far stronger than the LS1
Thank you for adding the 5.7. New to the ls community. Grateful for these videos!
Love the toilet paper intro, we know this video is fresh
Our daily dose of LS power combos,,, and most will admit we are waiting for Part 3 ,,,,,,, awesome Videos Rich!
Showing some love down under, good job.
Edited to add, you must sleep in the dyno room Richard Haha
I think I found my new favorite channel...
Nice work Richard! We appreciate you!
You, MCM, project farm, and cleetus, are the only channels I watch every single video put out. Which is saying A LOT being as I am subbed to like 300 channels lol 😂 love the content!
Best overview I have ever seen. Awesome advice with the cam specs.
What heads was on the 4.8 in the stock combo? Wonder how much of that power gain came from the cam or the heads
stock heads were 706
I would love to see a combo once you get to the 700hp or 800hp mark all motor 6.2L with a 4.8L crank and punched out to a 6.0L or at least close to it, 13.5:1 or higher running on 706 heads ported and polished on e85.
It will make more power leaving it as a 6.2.
4.185 bore 3.25 stroke 11.75 compression mechanical camshaft methanol and all the turbo boost. Love to see this combination tested normally-aspirated and 40 lb of boost. I believe this combination might get a world record LSX stick shift. 2500 horsepower Plus
You will see the 4.8L crank and 6.2L block combo at 600 hp
@@richardholdener1727 👍
@@danielsullivan9865 And then DOHC and you've got a VH45
Appreciate it all these wisdom Richard!! My 5.7L going be turnt up!
Tell everyone in the other room you’re making a video for the “Holdener class on HP”, so please shut up!!!!
What about 4.8 flat tops in a 5.3? Worth the hassle? When will clearance become an issue? Easy 500hp from a 5.3?
I'm building a LS4 for a 87 Fiero GT. I can't wait to get started on it. Now I know how to get it to make good power.
Stock would probably be a handful. Cooling will probably be the challenge, not making more power.
@@ShainAndrews cooling is no issue at all. There's a guy making well over 800hp in his Fiero. You just have to size the radiator for the power.
Rich, you have the best job in the world!!
I have the best WIFE in the world
@@richardholdener1727 LoL good call
Ahhhh some 5.7 love!!!!! My heart is warming!!
You got me I was panic shopping a summit racing and fuel tech definitely going to need some project parts if I get Corona virus.
Put the ss2 in a 4.8 and a 5.3 stock heads ,stock intake.
285HP + 75HP = 360HP
My 4.8 ss2 tbss intake made 300 to the wheels
Sticky Lsx on stock injectors?
Izaiah Orta yes sir and stock pump
Sticky Lsx appreciate your response. Your setup is what I’m going for but with milled heads to try and get 10.3 compression.
Great video, currently running the 54-459-11 cam in my 2005 gto. Now that I know my
approximated hp and torque, I'll work on the tune to smooth out the Knock. Too much timing probably.
Thanks for the great videos with useful information
Richard stated that putting the motor in a car will drop 100hp from his dyno. So having 500hp would be a bare min in my mind.
So if you want 400 hp use this video. If 500 then use the 600 hp video and so on and that’s exactly what I was thinking
Could you please make a video about what you do to the inspect a junkyard motor before you buy it/ things to look for and what to avoid?
The torquiest stock 6.0 I ever owned was the 99 3 door 2500, I could smoke the tires through OD in that truck, it ran awesome, it had the cast iron heads, the 191-190* at .050 LM7 5.3 cam, that combo flat worked
I'd like to build another one with mildly ported 706/862 5.3 heads, a small aftermarket 206-212 cam with the tbss intake setup just for a high torque truck setup
Keep up the awesome work man, I’ve been learning so much from these videos.
😄 thanks for the chuckle in the first few seconds of the vid!
i love your content!! have been watching you nonstop for the last 2 days :'D definitely makes me want to build my ls lol
You are a true genius for making these vids! I appreciate you and your work!
As always. Great info Richard!
Loving these vids! Ready for the higher hp combos!
Great stuff! No one else does it like this, you are the man Richard! How about a comparison of the "truck" cams. I just put a BTR stage 1 truck cam in my 5.3. It runs great, but have no idea of "the numbers" it is making. The 400, 500, 600 etc combos are great,but at what point on these combinations, would I be needing a torq converter and or gears? Getting ready to build another 88-98 Chevy pickup with a 5.3. Based on ease of tuning and a target around 450-500, would you go n/a over turbo? Thanks again for putting out such great material.
I know you use Holley for tuning, but how about an MSD 6014 carb set up and how to dial it in? I know there are videos out there, but Richard goes to great lengths to makes these videos and is the best channel for showing results.
I use those too
My 2ss has a stage 3 cam with all supporting mods and a full exhaust and a cold air intake only makes 475
On 5.3 with turbo, what's the cheapest way to make 500hp that runs on cheap pump gas using mostly stock parts. I can do cam, springs, and rings, but not looking to spend 1000 on heads
Hey so TexasSpeed offers a package that comes with heads, a cam, valvesprings and pushrods for 1600 dollars. Is that a reasonable price? I'm a teenager who wants to mod his truck motor
You're going to make me change the cam in my truck when it comes time to install the heads and intake manifold... I am still shocked at how well the SS2 did down low. I have an EPS 214/220 .598/.602 111 LSA now. But, have a brand new SS2 on the shelf... FML
Would someone change heads and intake without out upgrading the cam? It would almost me pointless.
Don't forget headers.
@@baby-sharkgto4902 - already has "upgraded" parts. EPS truck cam, TBSS intake, and supporting mods. (LT headers and exhaust) However, had plans to swap out the 317s and switch to a FAST LSXRT. Now... might as well change the cam since I have one on the shelf. The SS2 has really done well in these tests.
@@bluecollarhotrods9781 ooohh I see what you're saying
@richardholdner can you do a mild to wild cam series with the 408? maybe 3 cams NA and 1 boosted?
Take a look at the 175-hp cam swap video-what you ask is already there
Sitting behind my good ol lt 1 watching everyone else do their panic shopping. The 6.0 with just a cam kit and tune sure looks like a great way to go.
Love love love that you put the 5.7 in there for us aussies, Im looking at buying a local Holden here but it comes with the 5.7 and I'm not really sure of the 5.7's potential as ive driven one before and was disappointed, They feel flat to me when I compare it to the 2 litre turbo 4 cylinder powered car i have been driving that was made in the 90's. I want bottom end grunt through to high rpm or else why have a V8? HELP!
Mondy888 mond put a stage 1 cam and you’ll get a heap of low end improvement. The stock cams are generally tiny. Sloppy stage 2 would be great as well.
Oh and put a blower on it. 😀
@@philistineau Heres my plan as an over all package:
-Cam swap, grind unsure at this stage
-Springs, solid lifters etc
-Re lap all valves
-Head swap (factory heads but up the comp ratio and then hand port and CC chambers and alter chamber design if needed
-Port match intake and exhaust manifolds
-Lower the oil pressure to 45-50 pressure
-Sump mods
-Extractors
-Race plugs
-Multiple Big engine breathers
-Tune
You just need to add that LSX the 454 or whatever it is run from stock heads on it with a stock intake manifold see what it makes
Can you do the ls7 in the next video
Jokes on you, I’m watching this while I’m pushing my cart right now 😋
Perfect thinking on stopping the corona virus, also! I’ll be working on getting my egt’s up so the air will be purified
Ss2 should be 228 not 238 intake duration. Great video! Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
You caught it also!
it was late
That last little part got me 😂
Why is he still at 32K subs ?
There's so much B.S videos and creators in YT spewing horse shit and yet this legit guy still at 32K.
Hang in there, Sir ! You are doing awesome, they will come ! 👌🏻😎👍🏻
Have you ever did a test with 6.0 ls with a carburetor style manifold with a throttle body
no
So you just put a cam for the 4.8?? What lind of springs? Do you need a bigger. Torque converter?..
4.8 NEEDS MORE THAN A CAM FOR 500 HP, YES ON SPRINGS AND YES ON CONVERTER
What kind of dyno is that? I don't understand how a stock 6.0 would make 442hp!
My stock tbss 6.0 made 316hp and I have seen some guys cars on the tbss forum that made below 300hp.
Now I have a cam and boltons and the truck made 404hp.
THIS IS AN ENGINE DYNO-NOT A CHASSIS DYNO
Richard-AWESOME VIDEO-Can you share more specifics about the 5.3L highram intake, throttle bodies and silver adapter plate? I'm using this for my LM7 5.3L rebuild
what did you want to know?
@@richardholdener1727 specifics on where to purchase and what to call it. Also where to purchase the Trickflow 220 heads?
This should be interesting for my ford build ...321 cubic inch sbf 4.125 x 3.00 stroke ported trickflow 170s flowing 292 at .650 and 218 @650 running a comp nx282 232/244 int/exh and .565/580 but with a 1.72 rr which makes 607 intake .623 exhaust. Only issue is stock compression 9.1 but im looking to make 365 wheel hp in a 94 mustang gt similar cam specs. For induction 90mm throttlebody and trickflow box r.
Best ls videos on TH-cam lover your video I have 2010 ss camaro 6.2 l99 I was wondering if I should go with procharger or gm zl1 cts Super charger came on zl1 camaro from factory which would be more reliable.I no procharger or turbos will make more hp. but more work too install were the factory zl1 cts super chargers .but it's limited were with turbo's sky limmit. I guess what I'm asking wondering how reliable are pro chargers vs turbows vs zl1 supper charge
The challenge for me is the limited availability of a decent manual transaxle from GM. The best they have now is the F40 that is only certified for 300ft lbs. I could go with the 4T80 that some guys are pushing well over 800hp but those are very heavy transaxles. So in this situation I'm seriously pushing the limits of the F40 with 500hp. I've hear of people getting gears cryo hardening. I have a lot of research to do.
Did you ever discover the AR5 transmission comes stock in the Chevrolet Colorado's and canyon
@@timbowalk They are rear wheel drive. The F40 is front wheel drive. The Fiero is a mid engine car that uses FWD components.
How about Weights of the various engines. Lm,ls, 454, and so on. What transmissions will work ?
I’m thinking about some ported 706 heads for my ls1 🧐
Richard, have you tested katech ported 243 heads? I'm wanting to build an ls1 with a cam that will make 500. I would imagine that the combo would yield similar results to what have on this video. What are your thoughts?
So a buddy and I are gonna tackle my LS 6.0L LQ4 and 500hp would be my sweet spot I'm feeling..... can you point to place I could buy this sloppy 2 cam and I need springs as well? Thanks much appreciated
that is an easy search on google
Would love to see what you can do with an L98. I just picked up an 86 vette that needs more power.
God bless the LS
It’d be nice to have a break down on the average price of building each one of these To see the $/hp
Think a "turbo cam" would be good on an NA street cruiser that the owner doesn't want to rev the piss out of?
Looks like they make great power & torque down low, instead of coming on strong up top.
ls1 thank you
Will be nice if you add the number of the Injector size
Hey Richard, did I hear you correctly? I have a 2004 lq4 from a Chevy express 3500 motor home and all I need is the sloppy stage 2 cam to break 500hp?
Another great one. Happy to see the contemporary relevance jokes.
I have a question i am bulding an lq4 for my caprice. How much power would i Lose if I installed my X pipe sideways under the bellhousing With a 3" pipe and shorty headers
sideways?
I made 461 on my 5.7 ls6 block
I appreciate all the work that you do. Any chance that you're related to Project Farm?...
no sir-i'm not that cool
@@richardholdener1727 hahaha, I figured that was a long shot. Both of you are very thorough and explain things with such great detail.
Ladies and gentlemen...RICHARD HOLDENER THE DYNO KING!
A good ls engine to get is a L77 aluminum 6.0 with flat tops and square port head's. A lot cheaper then ls3
The 706 heads come on the 5.3ls correct? Or are they after market? If aftermarket where would be a good place to get them?
RANDOM QUESTION for all who come across. I have a stock 5.3 bottom end, and I'll take the top end off of my LS1 from a 02 camaro, to go into the camaro. EVERYTHING STOCK, no upgrades, intake, injectors, all from a stock Z28. I plan to use a computer form a Tahoe. Is there a better route I can take just for it to run smoothly?
If you have a truck with a 4.8 or 5.3, can you just buy a 6.0 and bolt it directly in place, or do you have to make changes to get it to work?
tune would be different
@@richardholdener1727 fair enough. Thank you
How about a ly6 and a ls3 with the btr stage 4 ls3 can with headers and a nice tune
Can you use stock 5.3l lm7 push rods with Brian tooley stage 1 cam? I just bought new springs, pushrods, lifters, and upgraded rockers with bearing kit.
Yes you can!
@@richardholdener1727 thanks! Love the info and vids.
Good info. Thanks for including ls1
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