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htmx + react = hypercomplexity
The type of stuff that some developer in 15 years is gonna loose 200 hours to.
@@joranmulderijI've lost hours trying a supposedly good web frameworks when I hate web dev. I was most effective at web dev when I was writing plain HTML/CSS and JS, and I hated that. I just don't do it now.
The Iced Rust library gave me flashbacks so if I have to do GUI I'm just going to use GTK.
Yeah, FFS, can they just get over this Htmx bull$hit, it in itself is already creating so many problems on server and client, now this...
@@depafrom5277 What problems?
Using htmx to reduce complexity and then mixing it with react is like deciding poop is gross and then mixing dogshit into your ice cream.
lmfaoaoa
Gotta disagree, react makes building UIs a lot easier. The complexity with react is managing state and side effects. This is where HTMX can step in to help reduce that complexity by not managing it client side. With HTMX you still need a way to return HTML. You can using templating to do it, or you can use react to generate it. I don’t think I’d use HTMX at this time, but I do think it’s a very interesting combination
Though now that I’ve seen more of this video, this particular implementation seems a bit crazy
Opinions aside, got to admire the analogy 😂
Htmx is already a mess, now imagine this OMG!!!
This is like mixing red wine with coke
We call it "jote" here in Chile. Hope the knowledge this is a thing doesnt ruin your day.
@@erickmoya1401 and Calimotxo in Spain
Pretty popular back in the days
Dont judge, but you are right.
This is certainly one of the frontends of all time.
If you close your eyes it's going to be like Bill Burr is talking about programming to you.
HE'S GOT THE SAME VOICE
Its just missing a little jquery on top and run it as a webcomponent in an angular app.
Noo run it inside a flutter web ore and mount that as web assembly inside an angular web component, job security since even the most advanced ai won’t be able to determine wtf is going on
Feel like Vue is a better candidate than React, since Vue just... automatically detects and responds to changes in the DOM, including mounting of the components, interprets its props, etc... But anyway.
svelte would also work
Yup vue started out as being made exactly for this type of use in disparate components on a otherwise normal html page, using react here is just wild
I look at this and i'm like "i dont even know how to write js any more"
The only react I'm willing to except is "Lets react to some Htmx news".
accept?
To make things even simpler he could rewrite the whole thing with Haskell or Brainfuck.
Malboge is way better
@@ea_naseerROFL
my expect when firstly heard about htmx is it could completely replace reactjjs in small projects, but it just solved problems with state mangement and hard to follow component thinking
You can’t convince me front end development isn’t the kindergarten of development. Like when you were a kid and drew a portrait of your family and it was complete dogshit but they still hung it on the fridge.
React is like Wordpress is tottaly overused
@@jwoods9659Imagine web broader were less terrible and automatically didn’t reload the full page on mpa, react would only be used for sites where state persists across multiple links. We basically did the job of chrome on our own in js. 🥶
Before even watching the video, why would you want to return html which then gets handled by some js to make it into js version of the dom (shadow dom) to then compile it back to regular html???
EDIT: after watching I still dont like the approach with react specifically, svelte or lit would be better if you are attempting this stuff
Wouldn't Astro JSX templates be a better alternative than this React frontend mounting complexity?
“Never ask if a woman is pregnant” OMG that made me remember when I was 14 and was going home after work with my friend on the bus, and I offered my seat to a woman and I was insisting that she can seat there, until I said “look you can seat here no problem, you might need to relax your legs and mind your baby”, and she responded “ I am not pregnant”
I wanted to die
Let's go 😂 somebody actually combined them
Ok, I'm new to this HTMX thing, but isn't the whole point of HTMX to reduce the use of JS?
It's for people hating js and the baggage that comes with it's frameworks/libraries.
But it's handy for small projects.
@@md.mohaiminulislam9618well the philosophy is that one shouldn't roll an app such as Vue or React to build a simple website but in the mordern web writing html, CSS and JavaScript by hand is hell. Hence, HTMX.
Htmx still has js it just abstracts it away from you. It’s basically tailwind for js.
I’ve literally read this article like 10 times, i’m too dumb to understand. i’m so glad he’s going over it. haha
Is this Tom’s alias, or were the names changed in the JDSL story?
One word: Overbloated.
This is like driving down to the store by loading your car onto an 18-wheeler vehicle transporter then unloading it on the other side and parking.
Never disgrace the dom with react ever again
hell yeah brother
React brain right there with that blog author sweet hell, vue is made for exactly this use case XD
wild
This reminds me of the Noah's ark family guy meme.
Man this is just pain
Think custom elements + custom events +htmx has the potential to be very interesting for certain apps. The react bit is pointless though
This is basically the same thing that Stimulus is doing in Hotwire. Just saying
but why?
I guess the idea is to mimic react server components, but with htmx as the control
Just cause
Yeah science Mr White
Or we can just start using Vue, I'm a new dev and the entire React space looks like a freakin mess
Why would anyone do this?
only in js do u have constructors which take in call backs... just because 🥴🤦♂️
Seems like Alpine would be better here.
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Well cs jobs are not going anywhere in the next 5-10 years at least, but you never know may be tomorrow announces their project X in which code evolves itself fixes it self😂. At the end do what you like... Want money? Do business. Love computers? Stick to programming..
nooooooo
I hate this so much
Look… I get you need content but this is just bad. Yes a mutation observer is nilla use effect rofl. Whyyyyyyy
First comment :p Excited for the video!
Htmx is a good solution for small apps with very low UX expectations.
...for everything else it creates a $hit show, cluster Fuc# on the the backend - try integrating high qualify UX view components etc. and see the absolute unmaintainable mess you end up with.
What you meant to say is, you have skill issues?
@@DrKartoffelsalat Amazing statement based on so little information about me. - which suggests a Dunning-Kruger on your end.
Just no
Beautifully awful
First, finally. Hi prime
Damn, I didn’t even think to check