The question of whether or not the Ark, the characters, or the great flood existed is not relevant to what is found on this tablet. The fact that we have a tablet, well over three millennia old, that gives understandable and executable instructions to build a working boat is phenomenal. If one reads the myths described on some of these ancient tablets, you find their stories are very similar, yet strikingly different from the ones we know today. They show us how many cultures have stories in common, yet different, that they are significant and meaningful to those people, but that they also change over time. Babylon and Israel were both in Mesopotamia, but separated by time, so it's no wonder that a shared thread of story, changed and revised by time, can be seen in both cultures.
The boat itself leaked like a sieve so either they were just bad at designing a practical boat or the design is purely imaginary, it is a shame really.
it is a great metaphor but it is also literal the dimensions on this tablet create an actual boat so maybe there was a pre deluvion civilization that by foreknowledge or sheer coincidental luck was saved by building it not all of humanity but a handful of people with the knowledge of agriculture animal husbandry and and other civilized skills
Essentially the purpose of the Ark was to function as a life-raft. What shape are life-rafts?? Yes based on a circle, hexagonal, octagonal etc. A circular craft is the most stable shape in a seaway - gives the most comfortable ride. An unpowered vessel shaped like a conventional boat is extremely uncomfortable in a seaway. A conventional ship that loses engine power in a storm sits broadside onto the waves and rolls horrendously. I have seen video taken aboard a cruise ship that lost engine power in a storm. Tables and chairs in the dining room were flying from one side of the room to the other as the ship rolled back and forth. A real recipe to make one sea-sick!! Imagine putting up with that motion for days on end!! So I think it very likely from a purely functional aspect that the Ark was circular as those ancient texts state.
@Robert Horker eeh, they have found evidence of a flood. A localised flood that roughly matches the time given in the ark story. But that's all it was. A localised flood. Not world ending, not forewarned by god. Not special. Probably didn't last for forty days. Edit: just to clear it up: it's not exactly set in stone that that specific flood is what set root to the flood myth of Noah, but it is "a proof". It's not proof of what the Bible claims it is (world-covering etc. etc.) But it's something.
@Robert Horker In the Noble Qur'an Allah (swt) says you will find Noah's Ark on Mt. Judi, and there it is www.google.com/maps/@39.4404711,44.2351336,257m/data=!3m1!1e3
@@SirBillyMays lmao----"the world" is not a static concept. The tribe across the street might as well be at the other end of the world. For example, "Old world" and "New World" have profound meaning, they aren't just little historical labels. Discovering a new continent with new peoples would be akin to discovering aliens living on another planet today---in a sense, at least, I understand aliens would technically be a "different species". Your fetish for empiricism is making you miss the entire point. You've OD'd on empiricism to the point of bending your sense of objectivity into cynical nihilism. Full stop. That's the implication of your comment. Like what are you trying to "debunk" lmao? What are you trying to PROVE WRONG with data? Who cares if it was a "localized" flood? Guess what? There were many floods. This is just the earliest surviving iteration of the Flood myth, but there were almost certainly prior versions written down, and before that, strictly oral versions of the story. You know what's hilarious? You probably mock people who believe the bible is word-for-word true-----yet the way you are analyzing religious myths is exactly as literal and un-imaginative. Stop using hyper-rationality to kill your sense of divinity and mystery-----that is a profoundly IRRATIONAL thing to do. And I've tried to empirically prove that, because I know that's the only language you speak. Fool, come back to transcendence.
@@SirBillyMays people of antiquity didn't have the means to travel very far quickly, just consider even on horse drawn wagon a trip to say a city like Ur from out in the sticks would take days if not weeks to get to. So to these people a localised flood might as well be the whole world, it's what's observable.
Oh well, at least they got out of paying the city back and don't have to pay taxes now, ya know, the taxes the city really needed to help provide infrastructure to handle extra visitors to their city.
The Babylonian glyphs translated as "circle" sometimes are translated as "Oscar Meyer wiener." This has the potential of reforming our notion of the shape of the ark.
"And that, my liege, is how we know the world is banana shaped." "This new learning astounds me, Sir Bedevere. Tell me again how sheep's bladders may be used to prevent earthquakes."
Reminds of a Bill Bryson book on Natural History where, as an aside, in an elevator a mad looking old guy randomly gets on adn then off the elevator, the guy Bill is going to interview says "that's a guy who has been studying a (very specific) beetle for the last 40 years.." "oh" says Bill, "and what happens when he retires?".. "well", says the other guy, "That line of research dies.. no one else is doing that..".. and that is sad, there are so many lines of research going on around the world and so many of them are dying because no one is stepping into their shoes. The same can be said for old skills like thatching, barrel making, even brewing...
+2consider Yeah, I don't see how effective it'd be for conducting trade. However, sitting and spinning would both be perfectly fine, if you weren't trying to go anywhere. E.g., if your goal was not a physical destination, but that of survival.
My theory is that /A/ flood happened, but not a worldwide one; just disastrous enough that, in the relatively disconnected societies of the pre- and early- Bronze Age, would appear cataclysmic.
I feel the same way. A localized flood could very well have occurred. Look at the world we live in today with the recent flood disasters. As far as the design of the Ark goes, It doesn't say if Noah or his sons were ship builders. So it would make sense that the ark was constructed using a design that was unorthodox.
I think Herodotus describes the boats of the Babylonians as round in his section on "Commerce on the Euphrates", over a thousand years later but maybe it was a similar design
@@1996Pinocchio His brain is stuck in the "must deny religion" loop, he doesn't realize the comment was about the boat in the video. Fanaticism can blind people sometimes.
When wearing the dark glasses, Irving looks like a modern day alchemist. I expect the value of lead to go up and that of gold to come down, because he will soon go into mass-production.
@@seanhammer6296 I'd say they are slightly related. Science does require imagination. I mean someone has to imagine an idea before it can be tested and put into action so, you might say art and science share a common root. Well, depending on the type of art anyway. I might be reaching a little here though. :p
@@TheSahugani Ya you might reaching a bit there. Try this, the science of art vs. the art of science. Sure, people use scientific principles to create things but does science really create anything?
Most of those clay tablets were never baked in a kiln, but we have a few cases where fires destroyed the libraries they were in, sitting on wooden shelves, leaned up against each other in such a way that you could read the first line of each tablet without touching any of them. The fires baked the clay tablets and preserved them far better, by happy accident, than they would have been preserved otherwise (again, we do have many unfired clay tablets, but it's also lucky for us that some were accidentally baked).
Most likely they were probably reproductions too handle and study. Originals kept safe. If it was the original piece he would need gloves as oil and moisture from hands can effect clay and stone.
However, this question pales in comparison to the much more important, "What type of propulsion system did the X-Wing use to produce sound in the vacuum of Space?" :)
ScoopexUs didn't. Described in some of the novels: the cockpit systems generate sounds in 3d to give situational awareness so the pilots not flying in silence.
5 guys got the point that the Ark and the X-Wing are fictional objects, and theories about them are best kept as fan lore. :) Archaeologically, it's interesting that they found another tablet with a story about a big boat. Historically, it's interesting to know just how many older non-Christian stories got copy-pasted into the Bible. But that's where the Science stops, and it was strange to hear him talk as if it were real for short while.
It's well known among ancient historians and Biblical Scholars that the Ark myth is based upon older stories, possibly upon an actual flood that occurred in the Middle East in antiquity. It's absolutely fascinating how stories and myths progress and evolve through history and cultures, and the Bible is a modern example.
The oldest story of flood comes from the Sumerian's "Gilgamesh" (became Babylon). There is huge evidence that a massive floods happened around 10,000 BC. It was the end of the ice age and the large glaciers on land melted. Many coastal places around the world were flooded but not the whole world, though it would have seemed to a lot people back then.
I'm currently reading Finkel's book about this (The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood)... it was fun to see some of what's discussed in that book more visually here!
i'm a student again and i love history. and during the lockdown i have been watching sumerian history here in youtube. i think its amazing to know what early people do. and they will be amaze to know that their clay tablets have became valuably today. i hope they will find more. thanks
I have thought for many years that Noahs Ark was round, like a large coracle, not long and ship-like. My reasoning came from reading about the 'ark' built for Moses and having the Hebrew words that the English version was translated from. Moses' ark we all know was round and basket shaped, without the handle over it. The Hebrew words to describe the baby ark and the big ark and the materials they were built from, were the same. They also corresponded with descriptions of how Egyptian coracles, were built. (In 1994, I built six Ironbridge coracles and organise the first Australian coracle races held over two days on the Nepean River.) So I have done a lot of research on coracles.
...Ken Lyneham... ...see an old German drinking song that explains the reason why the ark was round... ..."Segem im Trinken" ("Blessing in Drinking")... ...keep in mind that Noah was a vintner...
Jean-Luc Walker I would assume his version became garbled and distorted over times retelling seeing the Israelites had no written language until centuries later. Then you throw in the Babylonian captivity and boom.
You could build this boat, because the people who wrote it knew what they were doing. That is so different to the many, many comments here. I would guess 95% of the comments here are just about inflating peoples egos.
I wonder if the reason it was round was due to the fact that it didn't have to go anywhere. Keelboats are streamlined to go through the water but this one just was intended to hold cargo and float.
Well, living in the Tigris and Euphrates delta (prone to seasonal flooding) is it any wonder a family survived a one in one thousand year flood in a large Caracal ? and then have the story grow with each generational telling ?
Before thinking about Ark, we need to answer the following questions: 1) did Noah exist in history? 2) when and where he was born? - give us date and place of birth. 3) was the great Flood story told by hunter-gatherers orally or was it originated in Mesopotamia later? 4) Did Noah's flood submerge Mt.Everest? 5) Did God's angels help Noah to build the ark? 6) how God helped Noah to submerge Mt.Everest under water? 7) which type of trees was used & How many tons of wood was needed to build the ark? 8) how far science can go to understand the will of God regarding miracles like the Noah's Flood? 9) why you are wasting time on the issue?
No offence but you seem to be pumping out a lot to keep that boat afloat. Is a circular ship a strange design to have, does it help make the ship larger or is it harder to build?
It is not surprising that the stories get recycled by different religious and cultural groups. One might be more surprised if they did not show up in other groups occupying the same region. The Jewish ark story was probably created in Babylon, where the exodus story was also written. In Babylon, they would have been familiar with older versions of the story. There is nothing surprising about what became the Jews, rewrote the story to make it part of their new Jewish identity, while held as slaves in Babylon. Exodus is more a tribal identity story than anything else. The events of the story never happened. It is an identity story and a story of hope. It offered the hope of escape from bondage. Those stories are how the Canaanites, that were captured by the Babylonians, became the Jews during their captivity in Babylon.
The video content is very interesting! I am a little confused: someone sent me a usdt and I have the recovery phrase. (pride)-(pole)-(obtain)-(together)-(second)-(when)-(future)-(mask)-(review)-(nature)-(potato)-(bulb) How do I extract them?
I was appalled at his handling of the supposedly valuable artifact, I cringed the whole time thinking this was surely a fake that the real one was somewhere else or he would not be handling it like that, please tell us , this just can't be
I came to the comments looking for somebody else who was questioning this. Jabbing his fingers into it to point at a line of text, slapping it between his palms, not wearing gloves, literally just picking it up and holding it... I knew somebody else would see so much wrong with that.
My thought was them disintegrating over time. Grabbing,holding, & flipping them would cause small particles to fall off like erosion. *EDIT* Ive watched A few videos now & they all seem to do that. It's so weird to me though,I collect coinage & paper money & I never handle it like that & none of mine are thousands of years old..So,I dont know. Clay just seems fragile,especially that old & dug up. On the other hand,to touch & be A part of something that old would be amazing. Thats why I like money & 30's/40's matchbooks,the history & life in an object.... Just amazing.
Ecclesiastes 1:9 - What exists now is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing truly new on earth. The teller of tales tells of the flood again and over again. The flood that was is the flood that will be.
“…and then did..”. Yes, he did - but only after many, many, many years of intensive study! What’s the hardest thing you’ve learned? How long did it take you? How much effort did you have to put into it? It is amazing, and I’m grateful that there are people like him!
Now this channel is the best reason for the existence of TH-cam. No fake news or stupid anti-vac people, but having an intelligent well known organization showing real items for all to view.
I suppose with the bible relating to the story of Noah and his family it would be known that they are the first to know of that story and then it would pass down to generation by generation but probably would end up changed slightly perhaps from the Biblical story of :the tower of babel -which confused the people's languages so that they then they probably ended up translating the stories differently and thus why you have many similar stories around the world regarding the flood and Ark
Biblical Ark: basically a huge wooden brick. Needs a full forest to be made, complex rooms and all sorts. Babylonian Ark: Circle shaped, it could just as be a glorified bowl, simple, efficient.
Well, the first clue the flood narrative is based on Babylonian texts ( Omen texts ) is that it's span is given as 150 days ( x 2 ), with this many days being 12,960,000 seconds, nominal . This in turn is how Mesopotamians wrote their customary synodic month average ( as calculated with the Babylonian Zig Zag function ) in base 10 fractions from the base 60 reckoning mean synodic month = 29 days 31' 50'' 8''' 20'''' ( Base 60 ) That is, 29 days, 31 minutes, 50 seconds, 8 thirds, and 20 fourths. Expressed in base 10 numerals in terms of days with an exact fractional remainder that equals: 29 + 31/60 + 50/(60 × 60) + 8/(60 × 60 × 60) + 20/(60 × 60 × 60 × 60) days = 29 + 31/60 + 50/3600 + 8/216000 + 20/12960000 days = 29 + 13753/25920 days Plato called this number ( 12,960,000 ) " The Lord of Better and Worse Births " ( Plato's Republic ) The reasoning is rather simple and dates to Naram Sin's metrological reformation - New Moons and in the Neo-Babylonian period eclipses, were both called " Floods " ( cf. the word " bubbulu in the Code of Hammurabi " for more ) , with " flood / deluge " also being the sobriquet of a priest-king ( As well as a term in correspondence between officials " It is a flood ! ", meaning " it's urgent you reply ASAP ! " secretsoftheages.freeforums.net/board/1/general-discussion
It's obvious that this is a portion of the story. How wonderful it would be if you could present the entire story, or at least larger portions of it. Keep up the good work.
I couldn't ever practice history as a profession. All the things that are missing would frustrate me to no end! But nonetheless, it is a wonderful field I love spending countless hours on as a hobby.
Matthew 7:13-14 The Narrow and Wide Gates 13“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
The Antediluvians gene spliced Chimeras, the more common ones surviving till modern times based off various primates are known as Bigfoot types, there's also Canids, Reptids Anphibiods so why not Bovine at one point.
I feel like some key moments of this were missing. Like, the first tablet was broken so the text was ambiguous, but suddenly he's holding another tablet that was worth its weight in gold... But where did he get it and was it telling the same story as the first tablet? And then he says "you could build this boat" and there's a mysterious sudden cut to a round boat... but it doesn't say how that boat came to be. Is this some new "minimalist history" story form?
It says in the description that this is just a small part of the full Irving Finkel's 'The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood' So yeah, it is just some snippets with a lot of detail missing, because this isn't the full documentary/film
[03:28] Are you saying, "Atran Hasis," for Atrahasis Khasis-Atra... Google-search has ~10 / 120k and non-edu with a nasal variant [n/m].... 2. Round, is most stable and most efficient use of limited materiels, and, like the primitive Egyptian fishing 'pods' for going nowhere....
I think were missing the point, Jesus said. As it was in the days of Noah, men shall be eating and drinking marrying and giving in marriage so shall it be when the son of man (Jesus) shall return. Whether or not the ark was round or not is unimportant (although the actual dimensions are in genesis)
How do we know these tablets aren't written by ancient Fanfiction writers? I guess come to think about it, the ew testament is a fanfiction of the Tora by extending the story. And the book of Mormon is an even expanded fanfiction of those again
The torah is a collection of many myths, legends, prophecies, and other testaments, both much older and closer to it's time of origin. A lot of things have been canonized since, a lot has been forgotten.
Just because people today get the facts wrong occasionally, doesn't mean we have to accept unreasonable claims by ancient writers- claims of world-spanning floods, for example.
3D Printing Professor or maybe people like to embellish things and after hundreds or thousands or years of embellishment military generals become dragon slaying heroes and theocratic rulers become invincible god kings.
Cuneiform is a reasonably complex form of writing to learn, and so composing texts in it probably quite a task, so I'd imagine that when it was used to write things, those things were worth writing - it is, therefore, unlikely (though not impossible) that ancient scribes would have gone to all the effort of learning cuneiform just to write fanfiction.
Isn't there other sources/tablets who say Ziusudra built the Ark on the whispering orders of Enki to be shaped like a cube and with 9x9 room/chambers inside of it? Like with measurements also? Not that it matters much, but I call bs on this one claiming it to be round.
Its true. Its round because its the only shape that is buoyant, it will not sink. There are Sumerian tablet that give directions on how to build the Ark and scientists have attempted to rebuild the ark based on specifications from the ancient tablet, with the exact same materials used. Its actually a common type of vessel used by Sumerians to travel through Tigris and Euphrates rivers for trade and travel.
The development of multiple theories about a topic like the ark is curious. Indicating that the shape being confused will in turn confuse the nature and Identity of the actual truth. So this must be important that the ark had a specific Shape
Arc: - a curved line - an electrical plasma discharge Ark: - A biblical boat/basket of bulrushes for Moses - A biblical flood vessel for Noah - A container for the 10 commandments (of the Covenant) - A cabinet for Torah scrolls in a synagogue
@@alabastardmasterson Well, so far you're the only asshat in this thread. They're _literally_ different words, so knowing which way they're spelled helps you differentiate between them, and not make mistakes thinking that's just an alternative spelling. Ore your hear four the "Arc of Profit"?
The REAL question ought to have been "Was the ark the ONLY vessel that ancient cultures have said survived the flood?" That's the first question I'd ask.
Maybe its just good advice for people in a zone prone to bad floods every now and again, if you want to survive... Probably had problems with all their enclosed animals swimming away.. and crocodiles.. Keeping a male and female of as many useful animal types as possible is obviously a good idea. A floating enclosure makes much sense.. I could imagine quite a few tribes had an emergency raft of this design..
@Robert Horker .. Archeology would be a long shot, but river delta cultures using communal / tribal and personal vessels in flood plains was the norm for Mesopotamia, Egypt and many other mesolithic to modern day people.. I am pretty convinced there was at least one large regional or possibly global flood event in the last 10,000 years (though not a literal biblical flood with the entire land covered). I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few large round rafts used as floating animal enclosures at times... What is the point of the story, otherwise.... There is not really any metaphor potential other than Goda/a leader knew best and His Follower survived which is pretty samey... As a literal, fairly true historical legend and/or good advice for flood prone regions it makes perfect sense.
From Attra-Hasis, to Deukalion, to Noah, and also there is the Norse one. Were people on the past not remember names well, or were these stories different?
The interesting thing here, is that if you believe the Bible's timeline given in 'The Generations', Abraham was born in roughly 2,000-B.C., and therefore Noah, born 1,000 years earlier would have been born in 3,000-B.C....so the 'Noah-Deluge' story is 1,300-years older than the Cuneform tablets that Dr. Finkel is reading here. The only way you can derive another 'understanding' from this, is if you discredit the 'Biblical Generations' to say Abraham didn't really exist...which is exactly what has happened since 1970...because 'The Generations' causes a LOT of trouble with various other tablets and references. Why does this matter? Because if you believe the Biblical account, the Ark was 'a classical boat-structure' longer than it was wide, whereas the Cuneform account claims it was round.
Heard recounted recently the old testament was probably written between 500 and 600bc, and probably by a dude named Esrah, and that he essentially made the whole thing up because he was leading a rag tag bunch of misfits with no sense of cultural identity.
I wonder if the blind men of Mesopotamia could read and write cuneiform. I mean, you can feel it with your fingertips and it's consisting of few basic shapes, much like braille does.
Not very likely. Only the most privileged people ever had the change to go through the training of learning to read. Maybe if they already knew how to read and then went blind there could be a chance.
Not likely. The ark was to be constructed so many cubits long, so many cubits wide. More rectangular in shape. Babylonians were pagan. They will give distorted view of things.
But you can't really-really build it because the materials used are not strong enough to build a boat that big. Dr. Finkel built a SMALLER version though, as you saw in the last moments of the video.
Im sitting here thinking this dude cant get any cooler. Then he put on the 👓
Started hearing ZZ Top over here.
Jakavosolo 100% with you on that
Totally on board with you
@@BuriedFlame so it wasn't just me that heard the solo to La Grange in the background.
@@BuriedFlame "Sharp Dressed Curator"
How to create a fanatical historian:
Take one curious mind and give him a doozie of a cliff hanger by dying after your first lecture.
he has students... he might thought, "Oh good Lord some curious minds, finally gotta hand over this shit.."
I'll have to try that.
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One of the greatest treasures in the Britain Museum is Dr Irving Finkel.
What country did they steal him from?.
That’s why they keep him in a glass case when he’s not doing these videos
Indeed. He's a 3000-year-old relic with the ability to self-preservate.
Agreed!
Irving Finkel should have his own You Tube channel!
He is so wonderful, isn't he? I expect he is just too busy and content to be the star of the British Museum channel.
with a name like that, he must be fictional. I suspect what we are looking at here is actually a sock puppet.
Just his beard could have its own youtube channel.
this IS his youtube channel, the british museum just borrows it sometimes
@Matthew Madruga : Just in special stories made up by special people!
Irving Finkel is easily my favorite curator at the British museum. We need more of him!
The question of whether or not the Ark, the characters, or the great flood existed is not relevant to what is found on this tablet. The fact that we have a tablet, well over three millennia old, that gives understandable and executable instructions to build a working boat is phenomenal. If one reads the myths described on some of these ancient tablets, you find their stories are very similar, yet strikingly different from the ones we know today. They show us how many cultures have stories in common, yet different, that they are significant and meaningful to those people, but that they also change over time. Babylon and Israel were both in Mesopotamia, but separated by time, so it's no wonder that a shared thread of story, changed and revised by time, can be seen in both cultures.
the Ark / Arc , is reference to the moon and Mars..
ark = 153 = 12.369 [ 504 ] that face pyramid on Mars is a clue..;]
The boat itself leaked like a sieve so either they were just bad at designing a practical boat or the design is purely imaginary, it is a shame really.
xvdd1 The issue came from the bitumen used to seal it. there's a full presentation on it here: th-cam.com/video/s_fkpZSnz2I/w-d-xo.html
Louis Cypher..;..how do you know the ark isnt a space ship...
Because it seems rather unlikely you'd leave out the whole "rocket booster" part out of the instruction manual.
Dr Finkel is an awesome scholar. These videos are gems on TH-cam.
I have recently discovered him
a round ark, populated by a bunch of animals, afloat in an endless flood... planet, creatures, universe. Pretty cool metaphor
Exactly!
it is a great metaphor but it is also literal the dimensions on this tablet create an actual boat so maybe there was a pre deluvion civilization that by foreknowledge or sheer coincidental luck was saved by building it not all of humanity but a handful of people with the knowledge of agriculture animal husbandry and and other civilized skills
Spaceshiiiiiiiip!
its the secret to creation
@@FatManJackson I just wrote a comment about this! Thank you for your declaration. :}
Essentially the purpose of the Ark was to function as a life-raft.
What shape are life-rafts?? Yes based on a circle, hexagonal, octagonal etc.
A circular craft is the most stable shape in a seaway - gives the most comfortable ride.
An unpowered vessel shaped like a conventional boat is extremely uncomfortable in a seaway.
A conventional ship that loses engine power in a storm sits broadside onto the waves and rolls horrendously.
I have seen video taken aboard a cruise ship that lost engine power in a storm. Tables and chairs in the dining room were flying from one side of the room to the other as the ship rolled back and forth.
A real recipe to make one sea-sick!!
Imagine putting up with that motion for days on end!!
So I think it very likely from a purely functional aspect that the Ark was circular as those ancient texts state.
@Robert Horker eeh, they have found evidence of a flood. A localised flood that roughly matches the time given in the ark story.
But that's all it was. A localised flood. Not world ending, not forewarned by god. Not special. Probably didn't last for forty days.
Edit: just to clear it up: it's not exactly set in stone that that specific flood is what set root to the flood myth of Noah, but it is "a proof". It's not proof of what the Bible claims it is (world-covering etc. etc.) But it's something.
@Robert Horker In the Noble Qur'an Allah (swt) says you will find Noah's Ark on Mt. Judi, and there it is
www.google.com/maps/@39.4404711,44.2351336,257m/data=!3m1!1e3
@@SirBillyMays lmao----"the world" is not a static concept. The tribe across the street might as well be at the other end of the world. For example, "Old world" and "New World" have profound meaning, they aren't just little historical labels. Discovering a new continent with new peoples would be akin to discovering aliens living on another planet today---in a sense, at least, I understand aliens would technically be a "different species".
Your fetish for empiricism is making you miss the entire point. You've OD'd on empiricism to the point of bending your sense of objectivity into cynical nihilism. Full stop. That's the implication of your comment. Like what are you trying to "debunk" lmao? What are you trying to PROVE WRONG with data? Who cares if it was a "localized" flood? Guess what? There were many floods. This is just the earliest surviving iteration of the Flood myth, but there were almost certainly prior versions written down, and before that, strictly oral versions of the story.
You know what's hilarious? You probably mock people who believe the bible is word-for-word true-----yet the way you are analyzing religious myths is exactly as literal and un-imaginative. Stop using hyper-rationality to kill your sense of divinity and mystery-----that is a profoundly IRRATIONAL thing to do. And I've tried to empirically prove that, because I know that's the only language you speak. Fool, come back to transcendence.
@@SqeakyToy LOTR trilogy too. Tht clearly is NZ.
@@SirBillyMays people of antiquity didn't have the means to travel very far quickly, just consider even on horse drawn wagon a trip to say a city like Ur from out in the sticks would take days if not weeks to get to. So to these people a localised flood might as well be the whole world, it's what's observable.
The people that built that ark museum are gonna be PISSED. Lol
Tommy Ohlrich
May be they can retrofit...;-)
Oh well, at least they got out of paying the city back and don't have to pay taxes now, ya know, the taxes the city really needed to help provide infrastructure to handle extra visitors to their city.
Which extra visitors :D
I'm pretty sure they followed the original story and not a retelling
The ark museum is God's work so please do not insult it. These clay tablets were written by pagans so you cannot take what they say as the truth.
The Babylonian glyphs translated as "circle" sometimes are translated as "Oscar Meyer wiener." This has the potential of reforming our notion of the shape of the ark.
"And that, my liege, is how we know the world is banana shaped." "This new learning astounds me, Sir Bedevere. Tell me again how sheep's bladders may be used to prevent earthquakes."
Reminds of a Bill Bryson book on Natural History where, as an aside, in an elevator a mad looking old guy randomly gets on adn then off the elevator, the guy Bill is going to interview says "that's a guy who has been studying a (very specific) beetle for the last 40 years.." "oh" says Bill, "and what happens when he retires?".. "well", says the other guy, "That line of research dies.. no one else is doing that..".. and that is sad, there are so many lines of research going on around the world and so many of them are dying because no one is stepping into their shoes. The same can be said for old skills like thatching, barrel making, even brewing...
I just discovered Mr Finkel ... i am besotted and am now chasing him all over TH-cam. Please keep his videos coming ❤❤
Wow, the round boat looks awesome :D
Coracles! Brilliant Shropshire tradition
+2consider Yeah, I don't see how effective it'd be for conducting trade. However, sitting and spinning would both be perfectly fine, if you weren't trying to go anywhere. E.g., if your goal was not a physical destination, but that of survival.
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My theory is that /A/ flood happened, but not a worldwide one; just disastrous enough that, in the relatively disconnected societies of the pre- and early- Bronze Age, would appear cataclysmic.
I feel the same way. A localized flood could very well have occurred. Look at the world we live in today with the recent flood disasters. As far as the design of the Ark goes, It doesn't say if Noah or his sons were ship builders. So it would make sense that the ark was constructed using a design that was unorthodox.
GhostbustersFan77 how do we know it was specifically Noah it could have been anyone or any amount of people
True. The original event, if it happened, could have involved anyone.
GhostbustersFan77 exactly and how do we not know this is a story from a book or plans to build multiple ships in that style in a very da Vinci way
There is a common theory that the flood in the story was a flood that created the Black Sea.
I think Herodotus describes the boats of the Babylonians as round in his section on "Commerce on the Euphrates", over a thousand years later but maybe it was a similar design
ARE WE JUST GONNA SKIP OVER THE PART WHERE THEY LITERALLY BUILT IT OR
Its easy to skip over things that never happened.
Cryptoetoe lol
Its a documentary on the BBC.
@@MrTubeYouTheif So how do you explain the ending scene?
@@1996Pinocchio His brain is stuck in the "must deny religion" loop, he doesn't realize the comment was about the boat in the video. Fanaticism can blind people sometimes.
When wearing the dark glasses, Irving looks like a modern day alchemist. I expect the value of lead to go up and that of gold to come down, because he will soon go into mass-production.
Fun fact, lead can indeed be made into gold, but it is a radioactive isotope of gold with little use.
@@seiyuokamihimura5082 I know. I figured that out in high-school and found it rather amazing.
This is how science should be done.
Read the instructions.
Do them.
See what happens.
And have the imagination to extrapolate where you are going. Science and art are not so far apart.
That's a good idea for a lot of things but that's not science.
@@Earnshawfully Uh, ya, they kind of are. In fact, they may be close to polar opposites.
@@seanhammer6296 I'd say they are slightly related. Science does require imagination. I mean someone has to imagine an idea before it can be tested and put into action so, you might say art and science share a common root. Well, depending on the type of art anyway. I might be reaching a little here though. :p
@@TheSahugani Ya you might reaching a bit there. Try this, the science of art vs. the art of science. Sure, people use scientific principles to create things but does science really create anything?
The way he handled the clay tablets in his hands. Was afraid he would brake one or two.
Most of those clay tablets were never baked in a kiln, but we have a few cases where fires destroyed the libraries they were in, sitting on wooden shelves, leaned up against each other in such a way that you could read the first line of each tablet without touching any of them. The fires baked the clay tablets and preserved them far better, by happy accident, than they would have been preserved otherwise (again, we do have many unfired clay tablets, but it's also lucky for us that some were accidentally baked).
Most likely they were probably reproductions too handle and study. Originals kept safe. If it was the original piece he would need gloves as oil and moisture from hands can effect clay and stone.
@@bohem5568 I bet that's right, perhaps 3D printed in plastic from a laser scan.
Yeah I cringed as well.
However, this question pales in comparison to the much more important, "What type of propulsion system did the X-Wing use to produce sound in the vacuum of Space?" :)
ScoopexUs didn't. Described in some of the novels: the cockpit systems generate sounds in 3d to give situational awareness so the pilots not flying in silence.
5 guys got the point that the Ark and the X-Wing are fictional objects, and theories about them are best kept as fan lore. :) Archaeologically, it's interesting that they found another tablet with a story about a big boat. Historically, it's interesting to know just how many older non-Christian stories got copy-pasted into the Bible. But that's where the Science stops, and it was strange to hear him talk as if it were real for short while.
X-wings??? What about warp drive?? Without that traveling to other stars takes ages!
indeed this is much more interesting and incidentally, as scientific as this shit.
Anything that emits gas could cause sound, the gas has energy, the gas hits your ship, creates vibrations, and you hear it.
It's well known among ancient historians and Biblical Scholars that the Ark myth is based upon older stories, possibly upon an actual flood that occurred in the Middle East in antiquity. It's absolutely fascinating how stories and myths progress and evolve through history and cultures, and the Bible is a modern example.
The oldest story of flood comes from the Sumerian's "Gilgamesh" (became Babylon). There is huge evidence that a massive floods happened around 10,000 BC. It was the end of the ice age and the large glaciers on land melted. Many coastal places around the world were flooded but not the whole world, though it would have seemed to a lot people back then.
@@leighfoulkes7297 Gilgamesh's version is not the oldest.
Irving with the glasses looks like a mechanical engineer in a steampunk fantasy
Let's not forget that Enki also told the original "Noah" to roof the ark over "like the abzu."
I'm currently reading Finkel's book about this (The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood)... it was fun to see some of what's discussed in that book more visually here!
The fact that they summarily replicated the ark is not only incredible but also a really beautiful scene. Finkel is amazing
I am so very happy that this man lives and that the British Museum does too! Thank you!
i'm a student again and i love history. and during the lockdown i have been watching sumerian history here in youtube. i think its amazing to know what early people do. and they will be amaze to know that their clay tablets have became valuably today. i hope they will find more. thanks
I have thought for many years that Noahs Ark was round, like a large coracle, not long and
ship-like.
My reasoning came from reading about the 'ark' built for Moses and having the Hebrew words that the English version was translated from.
Moses' ark we all know was round and basket shaped, without the handle over it. The Hebrew words to describe the baby ark and the big ark and the materials they were built from, were the same. They also corresponded with descriptions of how Egyptian coracles, were built.
(In 1994, I built six Ironbridge coracles and organise the first Australian coracle races held over two days on the Nepean River.)
So I have done a lot of research on coracles.
...Ken Lyneham...
...see an old German drinking song that explains the reason why the ark was round...
..."Segem im Trinken" ("Blessing in Drinking")...
...keep in mind that Noah was a vintner...
Couldn't it have just meant "round bottomed? After all, Genesis does give the dimensions.
Cuneiform tablets kind of fascinate me, in that they were written so neatly and so tiny on a little brick that can last for millennia.
Considering Abraham, the father of the jewish religion, was from Ur, it makes perfect sense, that they would both have accounts of this.
Except "Abraham" is a fictional character. There is absolutely no evidence that he ever existed.
at that time, Jerusalem was occupied by Melchizedek, who is the high priest, but who was he worshiping?
Nilguiri
Seriously.....do you ever read anything before you blast off your stupidity?
Abraham existed
Jean-Luc Walker I would assume his version became garbled and distorted over times retelling seeing the Israelites had no written language until centuries later. Then you throw in the Babylonian captivity and boom.
You could build this boat, because the people who wrote it knew what they were doing.
That is so different to the many, many comments here.
I would guess 95% of the comments here are just about inflating peoples egos.
Why doesn't Irving Finkel have his own TV documentary show? He's a natural and so interesting.
Round! Round! Who imagined?! And Irvine Finkel - he must be one of the greatest treasures of the British Museum.
I wonder if the reason it was round was due to the fact that it didn't have to go anywhere. Keelboats are streamlined to go through the water but this one just was intended to hold cargo and float.
I could listen to Dr Finckel all day and come back every day for more.
Well, living in the Tigris and Euphrates delta (prone to seasonal flooding) is it any wonder a family survived a one in one thousand year flood in a large Caracal ? and then have the story grow with each generational telling ?
Before thinking about Ark, we need to answer the following questions:
1) did Noah exist in history?
2) when and where he was born? - give us date and place of birth.
3) was the great Flood story told by hunter-gatherers orally or was it originated in Mesopotamia later?
4) Did Noah's flood submerge Mt.Everest?
5) Did God's angels help Noah to build the ark?
6) how God helped Noah to submerge Mt.Everest under water?
7) which type of trees was used & How many tons of wood was needed to build the ark?
8) how far science can go to understand the will of God regarding miracles like the Noah's Flood?
9) why you are wasting time on the issue?
Someone needs to tell me where I can get his shades.
No offence but you seem to be pumping out a lot to keep that boat afloat. Is a circular ship a strange design to have, does it help make the ship larger or is it harder to build?
When you show off an ancient tablet with formerly sci fi tech and minority report like computer / gesture interface LOL
It is not surprising that the stories get recycled by different religious and cultural groups. One might be more surprised if they did not show up in other groups occupying the same region. The Jewish ark story was probably created in Babylon, where the exodus story was also written. In Babylon, they would have been familiar with older versions of the story.
There is nothing surprising about what became the Jews, rewrote the story to make it part of their new Jewish identity, while held as slaves in Babylon.
Exodus is more a tribal identity story than anything else. The events of the story never happened. It is an identity story and a story of hope. It offered the hope of escape from bondage.
Those stories are how the Canaanites, that were captured by the Babylonians, became the Jews during their captivity in Babylon.
So Dubledor didn’t die he just got more interesting
The video content is very interesting! I am a little confused: someone sent me a usdt and I have the recovery phrase. (pride)-(pole)-(obtain)-(together)-(second)-(when)-(future)-(mask)-(review)-(nature)-(potato)-(bulb) How do I extract them?
So is rubbing your exposed palms and hand oils over the "more valuable than solid gold" artifact normal in the British Museum?
Probably fake, that's why. They expect normies to miss that sort of detail.
I was appalled at his handling of the supposedly valuable artifact, I cringed the whole time thinking this was surely a fake that the real one was somewhere else or he would not be handling it like that, please tell us , this just can't be
I came to the comments looking for somebody else who was questioning this. Jabbing his fingers into it to point at a line of text, slapping it between his palms, not wearing gloves, literally just picking it up and holding it... I knew somebody else would see so much wrong with that.
It is obviously a plastic copy of the original.
My thought was them disintegrating over time. Grabbing,holding, & flipping them would cause small particles to fall off like erosion.
*EDIT*
Ive watched A few videos now & they all seem to do that. It's so weird to me though,I collect coinage & paper money & I never handle it like that & none of mine are thousands of years old..So,I dont know. Clay just seems fragile,especially that old & dug up. On the other hand,to touch & be A part of something that old would be amazing. Thats why I like money & 30's/40's matchbooks,the history & life in an object....
Just amazing.
The bigger the vessel the more likely the bitumen will fail to waterproof the watercraft. So was something added to the pitch to keep it pliant?
Ecclesiastes 1:9 - What exists now is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing truly new on earth.
The teller of tales tells of the flood again and over again. The flood that was is the flood that will be.
I will always click a video with Dr Irving Finkel in the thumbnail. That’s all it takes.
Its so weird that some dude just decided to understand that text and then did..Its just so amazing that people can read stuff like that
“…and then did..”. Yes, he did - but only after many, many, many years of intensive study! What’s the hardest thing you’ve learned? How long did it take you? How much effort did you have to put into it? It is amazing, and I’m grateful that there are people like him!
Now this channel is the best reason for the existence of TH-cam. No fake news or stupid anti-vac people, but having an intelligent well known organization showing real items for all to view.
Wonderful video!
I suppose with the bible relating to the story of Noah and his family it would be known that they are the first to know of that story and then it would pass down to generation by generation but probably would end up changed slightly perhaps from the Biblical story of :the tower of babel -which confused the people's languages so that they then they probably ended up translating the stories differently and thus why you have many similar stories around the world regarding the flood and Ark
Dumbledore survived after all.
Biblical Ark: basically a huge wooden brick. Needs a full forest to be made, complex rooms and all sorts.
Babylonian Ark: Circle shaped, it could just as be a glorified bowl, simple, efficient.
Yeah that’s true..the builders of “the experience “ will seem to be quite Ham fisted 🇪🇸
I saw what you did there.
Well, the first clue the flood narrative is based on Babylonian texts ( Omen texts ) is that it's span is given as 150 days ( x 2 ), with this many days being 12,960,000 seconds, nominal . This in turn is how Mesopotamians wrote their customary synodic month average ( as calculated with the Babylonian Zig Zag function ) in base 10 fractions from the base 60 reckoning
mean synodic month = 29 days 31' 50'' 8''' 20'''' ( Base 60 )
That is, 29 days, 31 minutes, 50 seconds, 8 thirds, and 20 fourths. Expressed in base 10 numerals in terms of days with an exact fractional remainder that equals:
29 + 31/60 + 50/(60 × 60) + 8/(60 × 60 × 60) + 20/(60 × 60 × 60 × 60) days
= 29 + 31/60 + 50/3600 + 8/216000 + 20/12960000 days
= 29 + 13753/25920 days
Plato called this number ( 12,960,000 ) " The Lord of Better and Worse Births " ( Plato's Republic )
The reasoning is rather simple and dates to Naram Sin's metrological reformation - New Moons and in the Neo-Babylonian period eclipses, were both called " Floods " ( cf. the word " bubbulu in the Code of Hammurabi " for more ) , with " flood / deluge " also being the sobriquet of a priest-king ( As well as a term in correspondence between officials " It is a flood ! ", meaning " it's urgent you reply ASAP ! "
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That's how you fit a square cubit into a round ark
It's obvious that this is a portion of the story. How wonderful it would be if you could present the entire story, or at least larger portions of it. Keep up the good work.
im not saying it was a spaceship
You're not saying it, +NathanRomml , but I'm not NOT saying it...
I ain't sayin she's a gold digger
I couldn't ever practice history as a profession. All the things that are missing would frustrate me to no end! But nonetheless, it is a wonderful field I love spending countless hours on as a hobby.
we're turning scientists into rock stars. I think we're alright.
No. Science is based on factual evidence. Not popularity.
Dr Finkel has a presentation style that is bound to attract any listener.
Ahhh....found the REAL Dumbledore! :)))
Matthew 7:13-14
The Narrow and Wide Gates
13“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Asking if the Ark was round is like asking if the Minotaur had a brown or black head in reality. It didn't exist.
The Antediluvians gene spliced Chimeras, the more common ones surviving till modern times based off various primates are known as Bigfoot types, there's also Canids, Reptids Anphibiods so why not Bovine at one point.
Interesting and weird when fanatics try to ridicule the specialists...
no gloves whilst handling an artifact? Interesting...
MY FAVESTATION I was thinking the same thing!!! Like dude if that’s clay it’s gonna be dust if you keep handling it
Gloves cause more damage and wear handling these tablets.
they made a video explaining it th-cam.com/video/VAzLunt6Lr0/w-d-xo.html
We need more of Mr Finkle, Please do more videos with him !! Thanks
What if all these people are just trolling us. They read a story they want and then say yup...this is what it is.
Well...it's all verifiable.
I feel like some key moments of this were missing. Like, the first tablet was broken so the text was ambiguous, but suddenly he's holding another tablet that was worth its weight in gold... But where did he get it and was it telling the same story as the first tablet? And then he says "you could build this boat" and there's a mysterious sudden cut to a round boat... but it doesn't say how that boat came to be. Is this some new "minimalist history" story form?
It says in the description that this is just a small part of the full Irving Finkel's 'The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood'
So yeah, it is just some snippets with a lot of detail missing, because this isn't the full documentary/film
[03:28] Are you saying, "Atran Hasis," for Atrahasis Khasis-Atra... Google-search has ~10 / 120k and non-edu with a nasal variant [n/m].... 2. Round, is most stable and most efficient use of limited materiels, and, like the primitive Egyptian fishing 'pods' for going nowhere....
He's right google is wrong.
In the Bible it says that the Ark was made from gofer wood, but no body knows what gofer wood is, but an old work for a coracle is gofer.
will then...the ark is (gofa)
هههههه طلع الارك كفه هههه
it is some kind of ship we use in iraq to hunt fish in frat river and dijla
You mean the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers.
الأجانب ما يفهمون دجلة والفرات.
I think were missing the point, Jesus said. As it was in the days of Noah, men shall be eating and drinking marrying and giving in marriage so shall it be when the son of man (Jesus) shall return. Whether or not the ark was round or not is unimportant (although the actual dimensions are in genesis)
So...the ark may have been like a man made island, that's what I imagine anyway.
I think I'm in love with Irving Finkel
How do we know these tablets aren't written by ancient Fanfiction writers?
I guess come to think about it, the ew testament is a fanfiction of the Tora by extending the story.
And the book of Mormon is an even expanded fanfiction of those again
The torah is a collection of many myths, legends, prophecies, and other testaments, both much older and closer to it's time of origin. A lot of things have been canonized since, a lot has been forgotten.
Just because people today get the facts wrong occasionally, doesn't mean we have to accept unreasonable claims by ancient writers- claims of world-spanning floods, for example.
3D Printing Professor or maybe people like to embellish things and after hundreds or thousands or years of embellishment military generals become dragon slaying heroes and theocratic rulers become invincible god kings.
Its from the epic of Gilgamesh not Noah's ark
Cuneiform is a reasonably complex form of writing to learn, and so composing texts in it probably quite a task, so I'd imagine that when it was used to write things, those things were worth writing - it is, therefore, unlikely (though not impossible) that ancient scribes would have gone to all the effort of learning cuneiform just to write fanfiction.
Isn't there other sources/tablets who say Ziusudra built the Ark on the whispering orders of Enki to be shaped like a cube and with 9x9 room/chambers inside of it? Like with measurements also?
Not that it matters much, but I call bs on this one claiming it to be round.
Its true. Its round because its the only shape that is buoyant, it will not sink. There are Sumerian tablet that give directions on how to build the Ark and scientists have attempted to rebuild the ark based on specifications from the ancient tablet, with the exact same materials used. Its actually a common type of vessel used by Sumerians to travel through Tigris and Euphrates rivers for trade and travel.
There are a few versions of the story. That doesn't make this one "BS" by any means. And this one can actually be built and float.
Plot twist: what if the "ark" is planet earth
or what if its a space ship. just a random theory
The earth is populated by the descendants of the 'B' Ark!
Boat look small, how many aminal you fit?
Any Flat Arkers in here?
The development of multiple theories about a topic like the ark is curious. Indicating that the shape being confused will in turn confuse the nature and Identity of the actual truth. So this must be important that the ark had a specific Shape
Ark, arc... is it just me?
Arc:
- a curved line
- an electrical plasma discharge
Ark:
- A biblical boat/basket of bulrushes for Moses
- A biblical flood vessel for Noah
- A container for the 10 commandments (of the Covenant)
- A cabinet for Torah scrolls in a synagogue
@@GranRey-0 way to be a literal asshat
@@alabastardmasterson Well, so far you're the only asshat in this thread.
They're _literally_ different words, so knowing which way they're spelled helps you differentiate between them, and not make mistakes thinking that's just an alternative spelling.
Ore your hear four the "Arc of Profit"?
so, that million dollar ark theme park in the US got it wrong. Oh the LOLs.
Was there a time you thought they got it right?
It also says to give it a roof like the abzu, an underwater base of the god enki, and seal it with asphalt
The REAL question ought to have been "Was the ark the ONLY vessel that ancient cultures have said survived the flood?" That's the first question I'd ask.
Now this is a great question and deserves more attention.
Maybe its just good advice for people in a zone prone to bad floods every now and again, if you want to survive... Probably had problems with all their enclosed animals swimming away.. and crocodiles.. Keeping a male and female of as many useful animal types as possible is obviously a good idea. A floating enclosure makes much sense.. I could imagine quite a few tribes had an emergency raft of this design..
@Robert Horker .. Archeology would be a long shot, but river delta cultures using communal / tribal and personal vessels in flood plains was the norm for Mesopotamia, Egypt and many other mesolithic to modern day people.. I am pretty convinced there was at least one large regional or possibly global flood event in the last 10,000 years (though not a literal biblical flood with the entire land covered). I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few large round rafts used as floating animal enclosures at times... What is the point of the story, otherwise.... There is not really any metaphor potential other than Goda/a leader knew best and His Follower survived which is pretty samey... As a literal, fairly true historical legend and/or good advice for flood prone regions it makes perfect sense.
A boat... A round boat... A round ship... AN UFO ILLUMINATI???????
From Attra-Hasis, to Deukalion, to Noah, and also there is the Norse one. Were people on the past not remember names well, or were these stories different?
Was the ark round?
...Was Darth Vader a Capricorn?
Bruh
The interesting thing here, is that if you believe the Bible's timeline given in 'The Generations', Abraham was born in roughly 2,000-B.C., and therefore Noah, born 1,000 years earlier would have been born in 3,000-B.C....so the 'Noah-Deluge' story is 1,300-years older than the Cuneform tablets that Dr. Finkel is reading here. The only way you can derive another 'understanding' from this, is if you discredit the 'Biblical Generations' to say Abraham didn't really exist...which is exactly what has happened since 1970...because 'The Generations' causes a LOT of trouble with various other tablets and references.
Why does this matter? Because if you believe the Biblical account, the Ark was 'a classical boat-structure' longer than it was wide, whereas the Cuneform account claims it was round.
Heard recounted recently the old testament was probably written between 500 and 600bc, and probably by a dude named Esrah, and that he essentially made the whole thing up because he was leading a rag tag bunch of misfits with no sense of cultural identity.
0:31 ......PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFHHHHHHH.......... haha.................. sorry...... continue please
No, his assumption is wrong. This simply means that it must be drawn out starting with a compass.
This is what I thought when I heard him read the text.
Its broken because of hundreds of old men poking it to hard!
Ryan Laird kinda like my ex girlfriend.
@@spearshaker7974 lol
I wonder if the blind men of Mesopotamia could read and write cuneiform. I mean, you can feel it with your fingertips and it's consisting of few basic shapes, much like braille does.
Not very likely. Only the most privileged people ever had the change to go through the training of learning to read. Maybe if they already knew how to read and then went blind there could be a chance.
Not likely. The ark was to be constructed so many cubits long, so many cubits wide. More rectangular in shape. Babylonians were pagan. They will give distorted view of things.
Correct. The site was found near the top of Mount Ararat in 2010 . th-cam.com/video/oQwfU7DvUyE/w-d-xo.html
I love this channel so much.
Conspiacy theory.....What if the flat earthers are right and we are still on the ark......dun dun duuuuuuuun!!!
But you can't really-really build it because the materials used are not strong enough to build a boat that big. Dr. Finkel built a SMALLER version though, as you saw in the last moments of the video.
First question should be "Was the ark around?? not " Was the ark round?"
The ark was most definitely built and was around... The part about the message from god on the other hand...
ok atheist
Zephrym for all we know that's how to make a boat to survive the flood not necessarily the ark
Roger N faitha faitha faitha
Zdeněk he just built it, it wasn't that big, you can see a replica there were prolly a bunch of them