I love that the item build works well with both builds so you can pivot based on your team comp. No healer? Dragon Pulse time. Blissey/Comfey/Clef? Time to drown the field in muddy waters
Im a defender/all rounder main. I love playing muddy water Goodra, but “the Goodra effect” is real. Its just not good unfortunately. It can do some work, but it cant carry like something like Lapras or Blastoise can. Relies heavily on your team skill level, more-so than other defenders even.
@@Frostfire26 Id agree. If you have a solid healer and a solid carry, Goodra is great. Your team has to play tight though. If theyre all scattered, you feel useless as Goodra.
Man, that was a good Pika you had on your team there. Nice when your attackers actually take advantage of your tanking and go on the offense. I feel like I often get the attackers who go "ok, tank is here to block for me, I'll just leave."
True, I've had so many times where carries just leave at full health when I arrive as a defender/supporter. Like why am I here in the first place? On the other hand, I've also suffered defenders hiding behind me when I'm the carry, this is just wild.
I carry my team as umbreon, blastoise and goodra occasionally. Blocking objectives, providing vision, initiating team fights especially Ray and knowing when to back off, etc. In return, when I play attackers I get defenders who backcap, solo farm, don't run xp share, hide BEHIND ME (a squishy gardevoir/dragapult), and somehow have like 4 assists at the end of the match (never visiting team fights might be why!) People always clown the "meme bad" players (cinderace, greninja) but not enough talk about how bad a huge chunk of solo defenders are.
Considering that acid spray and muddy water is the highest winrate build - as of the time this comment was posted - could you try a video with that Goodra build too pls?
With all the kiting glaceons and espeons around i much prefer acid spray. They think they can pop in and out and suddenly they are slowed and everyone catches up
As I am climbing through master 1400+ (not crazy high but still decent player pool) with a 60+% winrate, i think why people underestimate goodra's toolkit is because there are certain aspects of the mon that people just arent taking full advantage of. Goodra's movement speed debuff on her boosted auto is deadly in the right hands, and is built for hard chasing. Paired with the extra slow on the whip, that also changes the position of mons on the map at will, and X speed to close distance, it feels like its actually built to counter kite mons. So her playstyle isnt made for hard CC on the whole team like other Defenders, she's built for chasing and locking down the other teams jungler, so your team can fight 4v4 with out the enemy team's main secure. It works for me at least 😅
If you made someone who didn't know what roles pokemon in this game were, everyone would confuse defenders for attackers based on how people play 'defenders' DEFENDERS, PLEASE DEFEND YOUR ATTACKER ALLIES
I was waiting until an explanation of how to use a defender showed on the video but then the video ended 😂 Also a lot of times that Goodra died like on minute 9 fighting for nothing vs 2 or 3 enemies or tried to fight in enemy base without any sense. Fortunately for the video the enemy Absol was super bad and almost AFK and didn't punished the bad Goodra decisions. Fun video, just not educational for any match against a decent level enemy team.
@@marioacg there's value in zoning out enemies or baiting/distracting them; it's not only about shielding allies and fighting for objectives, although that is a very important part that many players do neglect.
@@idunnowhatimdoin for objectives I completely agree, on minute 9 therw wasn't farm or anything else and he was just fighting for whatever reason risking the 8:50 farm
in draft mode it is never picked because goodra doesn't have utility for the team like other tanks, you need cc take blastoise you need to handle dangerous threats take slowbro, you need to isolate carries take Umbreon, ...
@@Niroc69420 the closest goodra can come to providing value iirc is muddy water + acid spray + x speed (so almost what Jake showed in this video). I think I've seen some say energy amp for more unite(healing) uptime i guess. That's the most CC it can possibly run, since it's gooey effect mostly requires point blank range. Ironic, cuz in the main games it has ginormous SpD and is extremely hard to burst down with mages... which are what eats it up in Unite, unfortunately (+ snipers). I'd love to see it get a bit of a rework...
I wish you could do the same with e.g. Snorlax. Going in and keeping several enemies away. However, you'd just die pretty quickly unless you have your Unite. Nowadays all the defenders have self-sustain etc. Power creep I guess. I mean you can keep the enemies away for a bit, but not for this long. The problem though anyways is the fact that your teammates often won't capitalize on you defending. You can keep three people occupied, so it's a 4v2 for your team at teh objective, and a few seconds later all you see is the enemy team got the buff/Rayquaza etc. It's frustrating. Goodra seems a bit better for soloQ as the damage output isn't that bad either. Anyways, nice match! I'd be interested to see Muddy Water + Acid Spray, too!
@@CM_684lmao same I’m a defender main and I question myself every game like “was I doing the wrong thing?” Watch the replay and see my team afk farming or going across map to score 20 points when we are losing or winning by 200 lol some games are just meant to lose.
Goodra is my main as well. In my opinion the Goodra effect is best used with power whip and dragon pulse; equipped with shel bell for faster access to abilities, resonant guard-and the controversial-Assault vest. Basic, stack HP, Sp. Def, Sp. ATK, and greatly reduced cooldowns. Hinder, Shield Allies, and assist
@@ImNotGoodAtAnimationuse resonant guard, focus band and spoon for blastoise. I know his boosted resets its special attack but i think spoon is better
This sort of videos are great. It is good that you actually tell how different roles should perform, especially with defenders that have kinda thankless job. They don't often get those 100k damage numbers, but enable damage dealers to do that instead. Also yesterday on your tournament stream you had great video material about eject button techs. Tech videos like that would take more work than basic videos, but they would be very educational! On your stream I could notice plenty of viewers learning new stuff and that was great!
i'm new to the defender role and while i've been doing pretty okay, it's been getting harder to know how to do better as i climb ranks. thank you so much for this helpful video!
If you play a support with exp share and a tank you 75 percent more likely to win matches just off of team comp alone idk why people play lane cinder over eldeglock at least your more valuable and still a good carry for dps
Can you do a Buzzwole video? I was playing it during the Unite weekend and would love to see a current meta video of it. Had a good laugh with my friend as I just slammed the enemy back towards them for the KO
i fill in as defender when necessary but ngl it's hard to get levels, and then your teammates who stole every last hit start pinging you for farming while they're 1v3ing. NOT VENTING lol ..just wondering how to overcome that kinda situation and communicate that w/ the team
Just run exp share? Idk, I've never really struggled for levels as a defender whilst also not having time to get back and lead objective fights. You should be playing with the team, getting assists, and leveling up mostly that way.
Like these types of video but I feel you should comment more as you play along what you're doing defender-wise. I know it's probably obvious but for us noobs it isn't always
I love goodra as a defender. It’s my go to pokemon if i need to be a defender. But i choose the beam instead of muddy water because of the healing effect. Does muddy water heal as well? Power whip is good combo.
For higher chance of winning a match with goodra PLS dont make the mistake in solo q to do a muddy water build especially without a blizzey!!! Pls allways use dragonbreath or you are just a piece of waste in a teamfight for your team!
@@Sandity wtf has anti heal item to do with the amount of dmg YOU take with muddy water build and what has it to to with amount of hp YOU can#t heal yourself?
Love Goodra but it’s not good. Curse items really hurt it, and cc makes dragon pulse unplayable. If u get stunned you die because it cancels it dragonpulse. Lapras, blastiose, treveant just are better
I don't know aboyt muddy water Goodra. I've had a lot more success with Pulse Goodra as long as my lane partner isn't using cc that moves enemies away from my Dragon Pulse. Certainly has been my highest win rate. 🤷🏻♂️
Hi Spragels, you don’t actually explain what you are doing or why in this game which to me makes it not very helpful as a guide to how you should play as a defender.
Goodra is overbuffed. Just make the whip pull regardless of sweet spot and lower beams heal by like 15% so he doesn't just get all his hp back. And increase the cooldown of his passive. That way he will still be good just not immortal. And it will bring him down to the same lv of other defenders.
Yeah but goodra doesn't even have anything that could do things if they nerf the healing on dpulse. Healing is literally the only thing it does, whereas you have lapras, umbreon, slowbro, trevenant that can heal, stun and damage all at once. Plus curse items really hurt it and it's unusable into that, which is something most attackers use nowadays. It has tons of counters, one of them being CC, which it and its dpulse is not resistant to.
@MusicComet @mimesforcrimes8393 my answer to both of u is simple. Stop tunneling on stuns. So, if a character doesn't have stuns, it can't be overbuffed? What a simplistic way of thinking. And btw all other defenders who heal half as much as goodra have been nerf to the ground.
@@archy8822 You do realise that Dragon Pulse is Goodra's worst move right? Goodra isn't op if you STAY 6 FEET AWAY FROM HIM AND PEPPER HIM WITH RANGED ATTACKS. "oh but what about Power Whip" YOU HAVE EJECT BUTTON AND A FUCKING MOBILITY MOVE, USE IT. I'm tired of people overhyping Goodra, he REALLY isn't that good... If you want to complain about a character with apparent "bs" stuns and amazing healing, complain about TREVENANT
Normaly you tell realy smart things. But this is stupid. Pls at least tell your audition the truth! My main pokemon is goodra and WITHOUT a healing support Character in the Current meta...you CAN'T play "Muddy Water" on Goodra....that would be stupid and you die instantly! You cant survive long enoug in teamfights without dragonpulse OR muddy watter PLUS!!!!! Heal Support Pokemon!!!
@@spragels Yeah of course you can play without dragon pulse. But every pokemon who hasn't this skill, has OTHER skill builds wich are more suited for them. But for goodra...muddy water ONLY works in a 5 stack team and/or with heal support...otherwise you go down like a lil smal glas canon
Oh and btw. Muddy water only helps you hold through against maybe 2 enemies but your hp will go down and you cant do anything about it, especialy with no grass around. AND the dmg output you do with muddy water is nothing compared to the dmg from dragon pulse PLUS the healing...so you can hold through against 3 or even 4. Gives your teammates MUCH more freedom to put on some pressure on the other lane!
@@sakaiiyuji7977I would argue you can play muddy water but you need to use potion that dreadful dreaded item and or use a focus band that Nerfed item. It's still possible to use but I do agree dragon pulse is just better solo.
I wonder if it'd be possible for Snorlax to hold out like Goodra did in 5:18. If not, I wonder what changes would make it viable. I remember Lax getting a recent buff on Unite Edit: Just had an idea- what if the unite cd got reduced with assists or interruptions
Probably a high WR% due to less people playing it and thus the smaller portion just mattering more in a 100% view. Same stuff why greedent can have good WR% but low pick rates, the lesser the numbers the bigger the percentages.
I love that the item build works well with both builds so you can pivot based on your team comp. No healer? Dragon Pulse time. Blissey/Comfey/Clef? Time to drown the field in muddy waters
Yeah that’s how I pick usually
Spragels: makes a video called the Goodra effect.
Also Spragels:
Im a defender/all rounder main. I love playing muddy water Goodra, but “the Goodra effect” is real. Its just not good unfortunately. It can do some work, but it cant carry like something like Lapras or Blastoise can. Relies heavily on your team skill level, more-so than other defenders even.
I’d say it’s solid with a good healer, but usually it’s mid
@@Frostfire26 Id agree. If you have a solid healer and a solid carry, Goodra is great. Your team has to play tight though. If theyre all scattered, you feel useless as Goodra.
Muddy water is so strong with acid spray I play it on my alt account, I'm gonna need to get goo for main account now 🎉
Not only that but it gets shut down hard by certain comps. Which wouldn’t be a problem if these comps weren’t as common as they are
Goodra can win a 1v4 by itself but can't win a whole match by itself.
Man, that was a good Pika you had on your team there. Nice when your attackers actually take advantage of your tanking and go on the offense. I feel like I often get the attackers who go "ok, tank is here to block for me, I'll just leave."
True, I've had so many times where carries just leave at full health when I arrive as a defender/supporter. Like why am I here in the first place?
On the other hand, I've also suffered defenders hiding behind me when I'm the carry, this is just wild.
Goodra crumbling like the World Trade Center after 1 guy on the enemy team has cursed item:
I'm honestly surprised that barely anyone runs curse items, every mon has some sort of healing. Those items can be so clutch
Or by someone who has mastered the foul art of… walking to the side!
I carry my team as umbreon, blastoise and goodra occasionally. Blocking objectives, providing vision, initiating team fights especially Ray and knowing when to back off, etc. In return, when I play attackers I get defenders who backcap, solo farm, don't run xp share, hide BEHIND ME (a squishy gardevoir/dragapult), and somehow have like 4 assists at the end of the match (never visiting team fights might be why!)
People always clown the "meme bad" players (cinderace, greninja) but not enough talk about how bad a huge chunk of solo defenders are.
Considering that acid spray and muddy water is the highest winrate build - as of the time this comment was posted - could you try a video with that Goodra build too pls?
With all the kiting glaceons and espeons around i much prefer acid spray. They think they can pop in and out and suddenly they are slowed and everyone catches up
As I am climbing through master 1400+ (not crazy high but still decent player pool) with a 60+% winrate, i think why people underestimate goodra's toolkit is because there are certain aspects of the mon that people just arent taking full advantage of. Goodra's movement speed debuff on her boosted auto is deadly in the right hands, and is built for hard chasing. Paired with the extra slow on the whip, that also changes the position of mons on the map at will, and X speed to close distance, it feels like its actually built to counter kite mons.
So her playstyle isnt made for hard CC on the whole team like other Defenders, she's built for chasing and locking down the other teams jungler, so your team can fight 4v4 with out the enemy team's main secure. It works for me at least 😅
If you made someone who didn't know what roles pokemon in this game were, everyone would confuse defenders for attackers based on how people play 'defenders'
DEFENDERS, PLEASE DEFEND YOUR ATTACKER ALLIES
I was waiting until an explanation of how to use a defender showed on the video but then the video ended 😂
Also a lot of times that Goodra died like on minute 9 fighting for nothing vs 2 or 3 enemies or tried to fight in enemy base without any sense. Fortunately for the video the enemy Absol was super bad and almost AFK and didn't punished the bad Goodra decisions.
Fun video, just not educational for any match against a decent level enemy team.
I would be more worried with having defender allies than worrying about how they play but good point.
@@marioacg there's value in zoning out enemies or baiting/distracting them; it's not only about shielding allies and fighting for objectives, although that is a very important part that many players do neglect.
@@idunnowhatimdoin for objectives I completely agree, on minute 9 therw wasn't farm or anything else and he was just fighting for whatever reason risking the 8:50 farm
@@Belesprit656 bad defenders are basically worth nothing anyway though.
As a gold badge snorlax main and green badge with all other defenders I see this video as absolute W
I'm close to getting my first green badge :D!! It's Blastoise also
@@ImNotGoodAtAnimationI love that Pokémon
@@Eugene19877 Ikr, i had a game with Blastoise and Trevenant as my lane partner, it was a stun lock hell for the enemies lol
Thanks for the message at the halfway point
It’s nice to hear those things 🙃
Unfortunately goodra just doesn't have the playmaking potential that Blastoise/Umbreon do
in draft mode it is never picked because goodra doesn't have utility for the team like other tanks, you need cc take blastoise you need to handle dangerous threats take slowbro, you need to isolate carries take Umbreon, ...
@@Niroc69420 the closest goodra can come to providing value iirc is muddy water + acid spray + x speed (so almost what Jake showed in this video). I think I've seen some say energy amp for more unite(healing) uptime i guess. That's the most CC it can possibly run, since it's gooey effect mostly requires point blank range. Ironic, cuz in the main games it has ginormous SpD and is extremely hard to burst down with mages... which are what eats it up in Unite, unfortunately (+ snipers). I'd love to see it get a bit of a rework...
god it feels so good when you have a good defender on your team covering you well. Plays like these can help you win so much more
As a defender main... Please learn to play a defender if you an ADC main, sometimes it's not all about you
Just pick up a slowbro
@@player-ty2sy agreed
I wish you could do the same with e.g. Snorlax. Going in and keeping several enemies away. However, you'd just die pretty quickly unless you have your Unite. Nowadays all the defenders have self-sustain etc. Power creep I guess.
I mean you can keep the enemies away for a bit, but not for this long. The problem though anyways is the fact that your teammates often won't capitalize on you defending. You can keep three people occupied, so it's a 4v2 for your team at teh objective, and a few seconds later all you see is the enemy team got the buff/Rayquaza etc. It's frustrating.
Goodra seems a bit better for soloQ as the damage output isn't that bad either.
Anyways, nice match! I'd be interested to see Muddy Water + Acid Spray, too!
I'm constantly stunning the enemy team with blastoise, tree, crustle at ray and then I see my team back-capping or hiding in grass like
@@CM_684lmao same I’m a defender main and I question myself every game like “was I doing the wrong thing?” Watch the replay and see my team afk farming or going across map to score 20 points when we are losing or winning by 200 lol some games are just meant to lose.
@@michaelmckinley8432 they think back-capping 50 points is more important than ray
@@CM_684 yes exactly, and it blows my mind. How many times do you have to lose to learn lol
Goodra is my main as well. In my opinion the Goodra effect is best used with power whip and dragon pulse; equipped with shel bell for faster access to abilities, resonant guard-and the controversial-Assault vest. Basic, stack HP, Sp. Def, Sp. ATK, and greatly reduced cooldowns. Hinder, Shield Allies, and assist
If you want an alternative damage build, rapid-fire scarf instead of aeos cookie is super good
Question: Do you think Muscle Band would be better on Blastoise or should I use Rapid Fire Scarf still?
Just looking for some tips
@@ImNotGoodAtAnimationuse resonant guard, focus band and spoon for blastoise.
I know his boosted resets its special attack but i think spoon is better
@@ImNotGoodAtAnimationscarf if on special attackers, muscle passive is useless I think
We need surviving guide more for defender+supporter
I alwayss play defender when i play in my duo!!
Random players are not worth defending sometimes =)
This sort of videos are great. It is good that you actually tell how different roles should perform, especially with defenders that have kinda thankless job. They don't often get those 100k damage numbers, but enable damage dealers to do that instead. Also yesterday on your tournament stream you had great video material about eject button techs. Tech videos like that would take more work than basic videos, but they would be very educational! On your stream I could notice plenty of viewers learning new stuff and that was great!
i'm new to the defender role and while i've been doing pretty okay, it's been getting harder to know how to do better as i climb ranks. thank you so much for this helpful video!
As a defender main, I approve of this video.
Oh I get it, a good defender because goodra.
No a good defender because of suppport pokemon who is accompany him!°
I'm all for more defender/support videos
Some dragons hit you with a hyper beam or a whole earthquake.. Goodra splashes muddy water 😂
Is score shield still a viable alternative, considering that this may be a necessary source of exp for tanks?
It get outclassed by other better defense items
Resonant guard is so much better, also buddy barrier
We definitely need more like this
Spragels was the real adc this game. Attack defender carry for those uneducated. You can defend my team anytime Sir Sprags a lot.
Would you be able to do a video similar to this as a supporter, specifically as a healer support?
If you play a support with exp share and a tank you 75 percent more likely to win matches just off of team comp alone idk why people play lane cinder over eldeglock at least your more valuable and still a good carry for dps
So is dragon pulse and power whip not a good build for goodra? I have pretty good success with that when i play goodra
Can you do a Buzzwole video? I was playing it during the Unite weekend and would love to see a current meta video of it. Had a good laugh with my friend as I just slammed the enemy back towards them for the KO
Just in case for everyone that copy's and paste 😅. Blissey emblem is the same as Zapdos.
You play Goodra very well.
Goodra is good if the other team has auto attack heavy mon. Unfortunately, no one plays such mon rn.
*Except dragapult, glaceon but any good player would stay away from you anyways
i fill in as defender when necessary but ngl it's hard to get levels, and then your teammates who stole every last hit start pinging you for farming while they're 1v3ing. NOT VENTING lol ..just wondering how to overcome that kinda situation and communicate that w/ the team
Just run exp share? Idk, I've never really struggled for levels as a defender whilst also not having time to get back and lead objective fights. You should be playing with the team, getting assists, and leveling up mostly that way.
do run exp share but if the other team is 3+ levels ahead, getting right back to fight them is just feeding.
Like these types of video but I feel you should comment more as you play along what you're doing defender-wise. I know it's probably obvious but for us noobs it isn't always
Been playing this goodra been since day 1
I've seen enough, Goodra is the god tier Pokémon of the week
I love goodra as a defender. It’s my go to pokemon if i need to be a defender. But i choose the beam instead of muddy water because of the healing effect. Does muddy water heal as well? Power whip is good combo.
Getting a regirock at the end was just luck for this build 😂
I’m a goodra player and a tier list of what you put down is good place I think I accept B or A I think that is a good spot for it
My build has 29.5 sp attack
For higher chance of winning a match with goodra PLS dont make the mistake in solo q to do a muddy water build especially without a blizzey!!!
Pls allways use dragonbreath or you are just a piece of waste in a teamfight for your team!
Simply run a anti heal item & your golden
@@Sandity wtf has anti heal item to do with the amount of dmg YOU take with muddy water build and what has it to to with amount of hp YOU can#t heal yourself?
Muddy water may strong but at least hav suporter pokemon 😅😅
Love Goodra but it’s not good. Curse items really hurt it, and cc makes dragon pulse unplayable. If u get stunned you die because it cancels it dragonpulse. Lapras, blastiose, treveant just are better
Anyways to get hold of pokemon unite to send a complaint, got banned from chat for 300+ days and didn't even say anything wrong
Please make a video on best emblems sets (and for what mons) when you only have three default slots.
Probably 6 brown 6 white, 6 green 6 white, and 7 black 6 green if only 3 slots
I don't know aboyt muddy water Goodra. I've had a lot more success with Pulse Goodra as long as my lane partner isn't using cc that moves enemies away from my Dragon Pulse. Certainly has been my highest win rate. 🤷🏻♂️
Ironic using Goodra to showcase what defender is supposed to do, as it’s the defender that least functions like a defender in the game.
What defender or support would be best for a 5 stack atm?
Id say Lapras/Umbreon and Blastoise for defenders.
Supports, probably Clefable and Blissey mostly.
@@andrewgood7586 thank you very much! I’m trying to come back to these roles again and honestly want to get a ribbon on one of them.
no spragels, this isn't accurate! the best way to defend your team is to use glaceon with a goalgetter and an attack weight
Hi Spragels, you don’t actually explain what you are doing or why in this game which to me makes it not very helpful as a guide to how you should play as a defender.
Better to explain please.. Than silent
Mamoswine is still S tier
This isn't Crustle. Click bait😅
Goodra is overbuffed. Just make the whip pull regardless of sweet spot and lower beams heal by like 15% so he doesn't just get all his hp back. And increase the cooldown of his passive. That way he will still be good just not immortal. And it will bring him down to the same lv of other defenders.
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Yeah but goodra doesn't even have anything that could do things if they nerf the healing on dpulse. Healing is literally the only thing it does, whereas you have lapras, umbreon, slowbro, trevenant that can heal, stun and damage all at once. Plus curse items really hurt it and it's unusable into that, which is something most attackers use nowadays. It has tons of counters, one of them being CC, which it and its dpulse is not resistant to.
Mate, I can feel your noob energy overflowing just from this comment 💀
@MusicComet @mimesforcrimes8393
my answer to both of u is simple. Stop tunneling on stuns. So, if a character doesn't have stuns, it can't be overbuffed? What a simplistic way of thinking. And btw all other defenders who heal half as much as goodra have been nerf to the ground.
@@archy8822 You do realise that Dragon Pulse is Goodra's worst move right? Goodra isn't op if you STAY 6 FEET AWAY FROM HIM AND PEPPER HIM WITH RANGED ATTACKS.
"oh but what about Power Whip" YOU HAVE EJECT BUTTON AND A FUCKING MOBILITY MOVE, USE IT.
I'm tired of people overhyping Goodra, he REALLY isn't that good... If you want to complain about a character with apparent "bs" stuns and amazing healing, complain about TREVENANT
Hi
You got defenders on your team? And they know what to do? That’s very rare.
Normaly you tell realy smart things. But this is stupid.
Pls at least tell your audition the truth!
My main pokemon is goodra and WITHOUT a healing support Character in the Current meta...you CAN'T play "Muddy Water" on Goodra....that would be stupid and you die instantly!
You cant survive long enoug in teamfights without dragonpulse OR muddy watter PLUS!!!!! Heal Support Pokemon!!!
You can play without dragon pulse. Not every pokemon in the game has massive self heal and it’s okay.
@@spragels Yeah of course you can play without dragon pulse. But every pokemon who hasn't this skill, has OTHER skill builds wich are more suited for them. But for goodra...muddy water ONLY works in a 5 stack team and/or with heal support...otherwise you go down like a lil smal glas canon
Oh and btw. Muddy water only helps you hold through against maybe 2 enemies but your hp will go down and you cant do anything about it, especialy with no grass around. AND the dmg output you do with muddy water is nothing compared to the dmg from dragon pulse PLUS the healing...so you can hold through against 3 or even 4. Gives your teammates MUCH more freedom to put on some pressure on the other lane!
@@sakaiiyuji7977I would argue you can play muddy water but you need to use potion that dreadful dreaded item and or use a focus band that Nerfed item. It's still possible to use but I do agree dragon pulse is just better solo.
Mamoswine high horse power peeling
I wonder if it'd be possible for Snorlax to hold out like Goodra did in 5:18.
If not, I wonder what changes would make it viable. I remember Lax getting a recent buff on Unite
Edit: Just had an idea- what if the unite cd got reduced with assists or interruptions
Love the love for muddy water goodra, it’s not just amazing but it’s a lot of fun
Spragels playing muddy water goodra is a bliss
I didnt know Muddy Water has a high winrate. I always use dragon pulse at it has a high sustainability for me
Probably a high WR% due to less people playing it and thus the smaller portion just mattering more in a 100% view. Same stuff why greedent can have good WR% but low pick rates, the lesser the numbers the bigger the percentages.