I listened to both of them and I always took it as throwing respect to Biggie. It’s no different from 50 Hail Mary. I could give you a thousand times people are giving props. What we should be more concerned about is when they recycle the music over and over and over subliminally. There’s a reason re gravitate to certain songs. The first times we hear them they already sound familiar.
@@j3zhottEther was a trash beat yet Nas still won. Nas has also said sometimes he picks unique beats to challenge himself. Personally, I think this narrative is overblown. Illmatic is filled with great beats. Get Down, Last Real N Alive, One Mic, Got Yourself, most Nas beats actually hot.
@oophorror2251 I'm saying Jay Z was smart to align himself with the current hottest beat makers. Nas does not do this the right way. You named classics but his new shiii bars nice but the songs with the beats mid or wack. He's dropped 3 or 4 albums recently that I felt he could have picked better beats on
Jay z was getting called out in the source every month for jacking rhymes, back then it was all text, but hearing the bars side by side really opens eyes.
From album covers, to album names, to concepts for songs, to actual songs, to bars, to record labels. Ain't a thing in this industry this guy hasn't stolen or bitten. Don't get why he's seen as a great to most people
It's because people are sheeple str8 up! Also 2 many sheeple out there aren't paying enough attention to what is being said and how it's being said. Too many fake bustas in hip hop follow the fake and ignore the realness. That's where the game got f'd up!
Jay was and NEVER will be on Nas level, lyrically. It was crazy to me that people thought he could compete. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some Jay verses that I was impressed with and there are people who's opinions I respect who love Jay but I always thought he was overrated.
Exactly Bro it's happening in every most genre's of music 4 yrs specially radiio shit there's only so many bars and riffs can be used, But like you say it's the way its done not been so obvious but saying or rapping same bars is just copyright shit copying lyrics is a no no👍
Not just X! Think about this....DefJam always had the hottest artists. We didn't hear Method Man, Redman, Erick Sermon and alot of those artists while he was at DefJam. Russell Simmons is in on it too! They knew exactly what was going on. Had to get rid of the STRONG MASCULINE VOICES. Hence all this soft kiddie mumble Crunk, drill and trap music. And GayZ becomes number one......cause he got rid of the rest of his competition. A true 🐍.
"Im not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others, I say a Big verse, I'm only bigging up my brother Bigging up my Burrough I'm Big enough to do it I'm that thorough Plus I know my own flow is foolish" -Jay-Z Then he continues the verse with some Biggie bars 🤣
@@squarebidnezz4524He said i’m biggin’ up my borough but B.I.G. Isn’t even from Marcy he’s from Bedford-Stuyvescent yes it’s still Brooklyn but it’s exactly the same the same hood plus yes him & B.I.G. were friends but it’s not like they grew up together they met in 95-96 so who knows if B.I.G. would be cool with him taking so many lines from him…The Lox made a track about him then moved on…even Nas made a track about him & Pac then moved on but well in the 2000’s Jay was still taking B.I.G.’s rhymes not only from well known songs but also from radio freestyles , unreleased tracks etc which to me goes beyond “paying homage” cause how is it paying homage if nobody knows where you took it from since it’s from rare tracks by B.I.G. that most people don’t know about…to me that’s biting & it’s worse because B.I.G. is gone so don’t know if he would be cool with that…they were friends but they had a friendly rivalry as well so i don’t think B.I.G. would be cool with that plus the fact that he also took from Snoop,Pac,Nas,Big L,Big Daddy Kane,Rakim,Slick Rick etc proves that it’s not just “paying homage” cause in a large portion of all his tracks he steals rhymes
Hip hop heads in the early 2000's knew Jay-Z was a swagger jacker because we remembered all the Biggie lyrics he was spitting. That's why we loved Ether so much.
I myself was a big Jay-Z fan (alongside Nas) when I was a kid but, when I saw this same video right after I graduated from High school that he was reacting to, I felt exactly how you described lol. After that, I immediately stopped collecting Jay-Z's albums and paid no attention to Jay-Z anymore.
@mizrawthemikesparka2342 on jayz 99 problems them first 4 bars not to long ago I had to strong arm a hoe - that's bun b word for word but jayz freestyle everything lol
Remember hearing Jay-z 03 bonnie & clyde and thinking, isn't this just 2Pacs song but with Jay'z and Beyonce lol. Basically just flipped Me & My Girlfriend and made it his lol. Had to turn that shit off half way through.
@@julyonlamont00 actually he got the machine behind him when he snitched to the (J E W W S) on Dame dash Jay Prince Suge Knight and and others when they was all coming together to form their black distribution company.
I’ve been shouting this from the rooftop for years! Nice job Stevie! I love this video and all the comments giving Ice-T his due! Ice is so humble, he didn’t create a beef about it, barely mentions it, always acknowledges the idea coming from Schoolly D. Jay Z needs to be called out on this big time!
Exactly jay z bit jaz-o before all this too .. he's literally been doin It his whole career.. it just happens he was the dude that "they" wanted .. and sold out the most to get where he is..
Lets not forget his Blueprint series, and the first one to do an album called "Blueprint" was KRS One in the late 80's, and KRS' record was big in the 80's....
The Slick Rick one was crazy. I knew exactly where that came from, when I first heard it in 2001. The Ruler's back was the song. First song of the Blueprint. Slick Rick The Ruler.
This came out when I was in primary school or early high school it was such a big deal in my area NOBODY dared play any Jay Z music until graduation (I'm a '91 baby). I've never understood hiphop fans yet again I'm a qualified maketing strategist.... That Moet effect. His wife is exactly the same they both such frauds and creative thrives wicked they are.
Jay Z was spittin' Biggie lines as a way to show love back then. Then every other rapper started doing the same thing around that time. So what are we talmbout?
Its about what machine you have behind you. And that depends on how much influence potential they think you have. I'm not a big rap fan, but I believe this applies to all forms of the entertainment world. And majority of the public don't research or dissect anything. As long as it looks good, sounds good, taste good and feel good, we (think it's) good.
This is true. I know amazing rappers with solid work ethic that go nowhere compared to rappers that hire a good team. Being good is important but not enough. Ur team is essential
@@KingGreen78 bro it is just an opinion not personal people view things differently does not mean they hate him it is just preferences like some people are vegeterians and others aint does not mean he is bad or hated
@@chineduonyeoziri7408 Well Camron is not considered the goat today or his he? how can they consider you the goat when you ve been stealing from others especially when some of your most memorable lines were stolen from others?
There is but many of those were the time people were jumping on others instrumentals Jay was releasing these as his tracks not gonna lie they did catch him but nowhere near the same capacity
I've been making music independently for over 20 years and was raised along side hip hop and I listen to all genres, when it comes to hip hop most "producers" don't make their own sounds, they sample which is fine if done properly, there are very few actual composers, people bite lyrics all the time, sometimes as a shout out or reference and others just aren't creative and steal shit. The industry and business side is a whole other animal, they will steal your NAME, Album titles, and use their position and leverage to make sure you are never heard of, all while they steal your ideas, themes, you name it. The worst violation is when "major label" artists steal from an unknown. Show business is just that...alot of fake shit. Pay to play. I can go on for days about this, I've been at the label offices, hustled mixtapes back in the day, radio, performances, etc etc...the contracts. It's not for a weak spirit that's for sure. Im in a good space and continue to do this because I love the artform and I don't even worry about making money from it, I don't sell my soul 💯 I share my God given gift with the world freely. But yeah this video you posted is the tip of the iceberg lol
This is legit. I bought a mixtape off of a rapper selling them outside of a Circuit City back in the day. A year or few months later I heard the same song on a Jay Z album. (I gotta see if I can find that CD)
Hey stevie not sure if you have reacted to it or not, but point of no return by immortal technique is a fire song. The lyrics and meaning is incredible and the beat is fire. I highly recommend.
Jay is a perfect example of perfect time, perfect place you had the passing of the goats , BIG and PAC someone was gonna step in I always felt like Nas was next and to those that know they know he’s top G but he doesn’t seem like the type to follow directions from label owners. Now Jay is good but at the end of the day he’ll stay in line if he’s told to do so (my own view) so they pushed Jay out like crazy so perfect timing now perfect place he’s from New York at they time late 90s New York was on top it is what it is, if he had come from Houston or something it wouldn’t have worked I mean look at Scarface if he was born in New York everyone will consider him top 5 and it’s unfortunate some people don’t really know his music. It happens in sports too, look at Messi came in for real for real when Ronaldinho the goat was on his way out perfect replacement and the media can push him as the nice humble guy to appeal to the masses unlike Ronaldinho who was a party animal. Perfect time, perfect place Barcelona a team that suits his attributes as a player can you imagine him starting his career in England or Italy two very physically dominating leagues who knows what could had happen.
@coldones9505 jayz was already big before pun and big L died.... Jayz went 5 times platinum in 1998 right after biggie died in 1997 Pun and big L was still alive in 1998
I remember when this dropped, I wasn't really into East coast hip hop. At the time I only listened to Cash Money and other southern artists like Pastor Troy, Three6 Mafia, etc. So this wasn't a big deal to me, but looking back I feel like this should have been a bigger issue.
It was you missed it that's all. This was on every hip hop website all in the streets and at schools, I'll never forget when I first heard it, I was like 14. It was a huge deal to us
@Akeem I remember hearing the track, and like a week later not a peep about it. But then again Jay was "retired" and has never been as big since so you probably right, I probably missed all the fuss.
Besus, wut about dat *PIMP* movement coming out tha south during this time period (ie: outkast, *TELA*, ugk, *MJG* & 8ball, etc.) oR dat *gangsta* (ie: *SCARFACE*,etc.)??
For context, Jay z and biggie was a group called “the commission “ when he passed, biggie on jay z first album, jay z is on life after death, they got a few records together, actually friends from the same block etc… he wrote snoop n Dre biggest hit also
.... which is an art in and of itself tbh. I don't really fuck with them as artists, but it takes some savvy to be that successful even if you riding in someone else's lane 🤣
i'm guessing that's why he never wrote anything down in the studio because when you hear the words they sound nice but once you see them written you would probably be like hold up why this look and sound like oh snap thats just what crossed my mind watching this.
@Clark Townsend Willie O'Neal was around for a long time too, but that don't mean he wasn't planned does it? Fabulous said it best, never value the length of a relationship over the strength of a relationship...
Lmao I remember this diss from when I was in high school. I was a real big Dipset fan back in the day so when Cam went at Jay I was all in. I've played this diss for damn near everybody at the time.
I remember when the Camron swagger jacker song came out it was epic at that time. I believe Jay-Z dropped Dig A Hole as a response for it. What a time to be alive lol
@NeishaNineStarz Swagger jacking is when a artist is pretending as if they are the originator of something or that idea came from their own mind (or brain). Jay was only saluting Bigge with rapping those verses that most people already knew that Big rap those verses first anyway. Stevie Knight saying maybe Jay is saluting Big to much, as a 44 years old Blackman i say another Blackman can never salute another Blackman to much or never salute a Blackwoman to much.
@@baddnewz8779 Indeed. Snoop is one of the first (if not the first) back in 1993 to do a rap cover song when he did lodi dodi. Snoop paid tribute to Slick Rick, and he receive backlash for it.
Nas already said this in Ether 😂. That was his biggest theme of the Ether track. Listen to it again. Jay is an opportunist and I been said this. And then later in his career he relied heavily on features to make good songs
@@deepspace_diver look up the definition of an opportunist. It's not just a person taking an opportunity. It's a person that does so at the expense of others or morals.
@@mickey10jb80 true, I guess I did did take the word abit too literal. But anyways, Jay Z took advantage of biggie and Snoop Dogg? Two of the biggest names in the rap game? And he thought no1 would notice. I don't think Jay Z did that like in a opportunistic way, I don't think Jay Z is that dumb. I genuinely Jay Z was just tipping his hat to them, It may be sus that he did so many times, but maybe he is just the type to tip his hat to the people everytime he got the chance. And why point that shit now, these song been out for years. I believe people are just using Jay Z's name to get attention.
Definitely need to do more of these! It’s different when you say “like (insert name) said…” then say the line. You can get away with that for a little while but don’t do it too much. You’re at least acknowledging someone said it first and not just saying it then afterwards go back and try to say you were paying homage.
😂 😂 😂 I've been sayin for DECADES 😂... JAY has NEVER been in my top 5! I'm from the city. Been listening to hip hop since 87...we didn't have all of the music that's out like nowadays so we HAD TO PAY ATTENTION to what was said.
The original version of this it’s well over 20 minutes. It came out in the beginning of 2000s. Cam’ron put this out when they started beefing. One reason why I didn’t listen to him back in the day. To keep 1000 someone did one on Cam’ron too.
This reminds me of a video I saw about Luther Vandross is the greatest covr artist. I knew he covered a few songs but someone put them together and I was like , "Wow his whole career was just covers but they were great ones."
Yeah. I realized a few years ago just how many amazing covers Luther did but Luther is known for his amazing singing ability. I don't think he or anyone ever claimed he was a songwriter. Thing is once Luther covered the song you just completely forgot about the original and it became HIS song 🤷🏾♀️
That's interesting. I'm going to check that out. I know he remade Love Won't Let Me Wait and he remade The Carpenter's song Don't You Remember. Singing is different than rapping though. A lot of singers don't write their own songs anyway.
Don’t know how you guys don’t remember this but in NY this was a major thing. Jay never officially responded to any of Cam’s disses that’s why it didn’t really get worldwide attention. Btw, there’s also a diss called “Silent Killer”, where it’s Cam biting off of rappers
And JAY writes for so many rappers too 😂 This is him taking rhymes from popular rappers it’s known!! The rappers themselves say he is the Greatest you think they don know this? It’s cause they themselves have jacked from all others too. 🤦🏾♀️
It’s ok to use somebody else’s raps in your own song so long as you’re saying it in a way that pays homage and makes it obvious you’re referring to the original artist. Give credit where credit is due, and that’s all you gotta do to stay true.
Agreed. I'm not a huge Puff fan, but literally every single one of his production is taken from another artist. He'd just remix it and add his own twist ... BUT say what you want, Puff never once tried acting like he wasn't doing that. He said it in every interview and even a lotta songs he'd shout out the original. Same thing with Dr Dre ... My issue with Jay (and I like Jay so not suddenly hating) but he and citing references and to me that's a problem. None of my favorite rappers of all time (Em, Big, Pac, Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang) do that and they're all original.
"I am, whatever you say I, if I wasn't then why would I say I am" - Eminem That chorus is from one of his biggest hits. Do you realize that's from Rakim's song "as the rhyme goes on"?
@@ebozion32 you missed the point, with so many verses specially from biggie is he copying or paying homage? You are comparing a hook with what could be an entire album 😂
@pitbull7676 Eminem is such a dope lyricist. To be honest, he was just paying homage to Rakim (I get it). But the Jay-Z bashing on this posts comments is overboard.
Nice to see someone take it for what it is and not defend everything he does and says because they are a fan. Jay Z capitalizes on what others around him are doing and make it his. Probably did that with all his other ventures. Takes your ideas and sees if he can make it bigger and commercialize it. Yea, You can call it smart but at the end of the day it's still BITING.
Back then it was a sin and beef if you stole another rapper's style or bars he brought his way through the industry and when he took over Def jam he put all the rappers that was better him on the shelves and just kept putting out Rockefeller or his own music all over the radio
I think his mindset is pretty clear, he is all about the mathematical route to quality tracks in a reasonable amount of time. A easy way to do that is to use proven hooks and flows. He is just a business man and cares little about the respect or art. Just a man after his money
You should watch Hip Hop Universe's video about the King of New York and it shows Hov biting dozens of lines/verses from Biggie in his music up to his last album 4:44.
"I'm not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others, I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother. Bigging up my borough, I'm big enough to do it I'm that thorough, plus I know my own flow is foolish" It's on of my my fave Jay Z songs of all time. Yes he "bit" a ton of BIG's rhymes, all of those Cam'Ron exposing I can confirm since they're directly from some of BIG's most iconic songs, but I also feel like that was the point; to pay homage to the great one. Idk I guess I never judged him for it.
As someone born & raised in BK Brooklyn and as a Jay, Big & NaS fan in my opinion I see nothing wrong here. I believe being in NYC during the time Big died left a whole in our hearts as New Yorkers. Jay & NaS had to fill a void that the city so deeply needed. Jay being from the borough along with being good friends with his Brooklyn’s Finest counterpart and legend put Jay in position to takeover the City and Hip Hop over all together. Let’s keep in mind in order to that he already had to be one of the best which he was and still is. All artist being music , art etc have paid respect to one another to some level. Jay is too skilled to have to “ Bit “ rhymes. In humble and personal opinion all Jay has done and still does is shows love to old and new artist and helps keep them relevant. Many of these rappers he’s paid homage to actually consider him as one of the best ever, Khilla included. On the Black Album “ Hands down my personal favorite he told y’all what he was doing , why he was doing it and then did it again right after in the verse. Pure genius 🙌🏿 ( see 👇🏿 ). Good conversation tho. I'm not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others I say a B.I.G. verse, I'm only biggin' up my brother Biggin' up my borough, I'm big enough to do it I'm that thorough, plus I know my own flow is foolish So them rings and things you sing about, bring 'em out It's hard to yell when the barrel's in your mouth ( R.I.P Big )
Cleaver said!! But why someone like Nas never do this? At least to this level I’m sure he said a reference line here and there but not to the level of Jayz!! He even took shit from Nas!!… 😂 nas put people on to Jayz bs many times camron took it further and made it funny…. Even to this day Jayz tries to shade Nas every time he drops a project! Why??????
@@asylum1166 NaS out of the 3 is my favorite. I was introduced to his music 🎶 first and always respected him being before his time. With that being said NaS has paid homage in similar ways. Dr Knock Boots was his version of Ten Crack Commandments. In addition showed love to Big & Pac in his We Will Survive Track. NaS paid homage to Rakim in his Unauthorized Biography Track and sampled the flow and beat Paid in Full Beat in his Jay diss track after the iconic Hot 97 summer jam ft Jay. I believe Jay & NaS continue to go at because that’s what you do in the sport of Hip Hop. Wether it’s Jay dropping a line like “ Who’s the best MC - Biggie , Jay-Z or NaS? & Nas dropping an Album 💿 called “ I Am “ is what these geniuses do. In my opinion it’s all good. As a fan I appreciate it. Snoop is also one of my favorite rappers. He blessed us with his classic DoggyStyle. One of my favorite tracks on the album is “ Lodi Dodi “ paying homage to the legendary Slick Rick who all of the greats admire as well. I’m going back to Cali by Big is him showing love to Queens legend LL Cool J. Once again I appreciate it.
@@354allday In my opinion when you are from where someone else is from and can relate to some of the same things you experienced growing up in life usually stronger bonds are built between individuals. It’s almost like going away to college and meeting someone who is like minded and you becoming closer in friendship then someone you grew up with all of your life. I’ve been blessed to have Best Friends that I knew all of my life and some who have entered in it in later stages. This could be similar with Big and Jay in my opinion.
The next line in that verse was "I say a Big verse I'm only biggin up my brother.." what are we talking about this is 10 mins of thousands of hours of rappin.
''I'm not a biter I'm a writer put myself in others, I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother, biging up burrow, I'm that thorough, I'm big enough to do it plus I know my own flow is foolish'' .... proceeds to use a BIG line ''so the rings and things you sing about bring'em out, hard to yell when that barel in your mouth''... Jay Z - What more can I say Killa Cam... ''you gotta love it'' .............that beef was quite entertaining.
Imo if you mention the name of the artist or the song is so famous you cant help but know it. Jay stealing bars no one remembers and tried passing it as his own. " your reign on the tip was shorter than leprechauns" Big dissed nas wuth that and Jay turned around and did it.
Yikes. That video also told me a lot about myself because I know most of those songs and I never put it together. Granted, I was never a huge Jay-Z fan but being from NY I know a lot of his songs.
When I heard that "me and my girlfriend" song he did with Beyonce I couldn't go much further listening to Jay-Z. I respect his hustle but I never vibed with him as an artist
Old hip-hop heads like myself have watched this brother morph into whoever the hot MCs were at the time. It goes back to the 80s when he tried to jack Big Daddy Kane's style. #The Blue Print - Shootout to KRS One
Wayne has Ghost Writers aswell Stevie Knight, "Gallie The King, Jae Millz, " and more... All these SO CALL GOATS on everyones top 5 and top 3 had Ghost Writers/Songs Given to them at some point in their career ... This is why Eminem is the all time Goat . Eminem#1
@@roseroselyne9045 Oh, trust me... I been knew this. Eminem has written/Co-Written on numerous artist project/album, Such as Dr. Dre(2001 Album - Forgot About Dre, The Eminem Show - Say What You Say - Relapse Album - Crack A Bottle " Also wrote for some of the D12 Members(Bizarre) Rockstar, also has helped write for the Re-Up Compilation Album, and he's also Co-Written for Lloyd Banks (On Fire) .. And thats just the tip of the iceburg, their is more.. Eminem has done alot for Hip Hop.
I really hoped this lyric was getting called out: "Red or Green pill you live and you learn come on." from Excuse Me Miss ft Pharrell 🤣😂😂🤣Like no one ever corrected him. Like EVER.😂😂😂
The Man literally say it. "I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother. I'm big enough to do it. I'm THAT THOROUGH/plus I know my own flow is foolish/So them RINGS and THINGS you sing about/bring em out"...
Bro that “i’m not a writer i’m a biter” sound bite is fucking hilarious 😂. And btw this video missed one. Listen to I’m Back by Eminem then Success by Jay Z. His opening bar is from Em: “I used to give a fuck, now i give a fuck less what do I think of success it sucks too much stress”. I think this shits hilarious but I still think he’s just paying homage. Rappers do it all the time, the chorus from The way i am by Eminem is straight from As the rhyme goes on by Rakim. Funny vid but doesn’t take away anything from the jigga man, ya’ll tripping.
Nas: "How many of Biggie rhymes gonna come out your fat lips?" -Ether
that line is aging well.
@KADAN 7 Bailey or was it Jay 🤣
This!!! 👆
Couldn't remember who it was who said that my mind went blank
@@jasonbarber4661 Nas
As an old HipHop head and BIG fan I’ve been telling people about the stolen bars for years but people pick and choose who they love and defend
He even stole from Eminem line from "I'm back"
Yo Nas said it the best how many biggie lines will come out your fat lips damn Jay z you want jazz dick I know y'all remember that one now
@@lesegom7172 "What do I think of success, it sucks. Too much press, im stressed."
Don't forget about the stuff he stole from Nasir.
I listened to both of them and I always took it as throwing respect to Biggie.
It’s no different from 50 Hail Mary.
I could give you a thousand times people are giving props.
What we should be more concerned about is when they recycle the music over and over and over subliminally.
There’s a reason re gravitate to certain songs. The first times we hear them they already sound familiar.
nobody should compare JAY to NAS again. its clear Nas is far better than Jay.
He's not
Exactly! And can you imagine if Eminem did what Jay Z has done?!?!?!? CAN YOU IMAGINE?!?!?!? He would get DESTROYED!!!! His career would be OVER!!!!
Nas picks horrible beats.
@@j3zhottEther was a trash beat yet Nas still won. Nas has also said sometimes he picks unique beats to challenge himself. Personally, I think this narrative is overblown. Illmatic is filled with great beats. Get Down, Last Real N Alive, One Mic, Got Yourself, most Nas beats actually hot.
@oophorror2251 I'm saying Jay Z was smart to align himself with the current hottest beat makers. Nas does not do this the right way. You named classics but his new shiii bars nice but the songs with the beats mid or wack. He's dropped 3 or 4 albums recently that I felt he could have picked better beats on
JAY NEVER NEEDED TO write down his lyrics, because……ALL JAY had to do was memorize other rappers songs 💯
Facts.
Facts
Jay Z is a genius.
BeNONSENSE jack alot of samples toooooooo
You sound ridiculous
I think mfs need to stop comparing Jay to Nas at this point 😂😂😂😂
Nas bit a lot too!
@@f.burton135 not like this..c mon
It was never a legit competition! Jay was biting Nas since Reasonable Doubt.
Jay z was getting called out in the source every month for jacking rhymes, back then it was all text, but hearing the bars side by side really opens eyes.
this shit wild
a lot of mf do it
No wasn't you making stuff up now
JAY-Z the biggest BITER in HIP HOP. The concept of BITING needs to be brought back into HIP HOP! 💯
From album covers, to album names, to concepts for songs, to actual songs, to bars, to record labels. Ain't a thing in this industry this guy hasn't stolen or bitten. Don't get why he's seen as a great to most people
It's why I don't have him in my top 5, I just can't do it.
Even with his name
"From Sean Carter to Jay Z,
damn you on JAZ dick"
It's because people are sheeple str8 up! Also 2 many sheeple out there aren't paying enough attention to what is being said and how it's being said. Too many fake bustas in hip hop follow the fake and ignore the realness. That's where the game got f'd up!
Kool G Rap is above Jay always
Coz he black.
And Beyoncé straight up stole Amerie’s whole style. They derserve each other
Don’t forget Aaliyah as well 🫡💯diabolical
Oooookkkkkk
"No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun...
It's never what you do, but how it's done"- NAS
He went past paying homage . In hip hop you got lines that became references that every rappers use but jay kinda took it far with biggie .
Jay was and NEVER will be on Nas level, lyrically. It was crazy to me that people thought he could compete. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some Jay verses that I was impressed with and there are people who's opinions I respect who love Jay but I always thought he was overrated.
That’s no excuse to be pay that much homage.
Exactly Bro it's happening in every most genre's of music 4 yrs specially radiio shit there's only so many bars and riffs can be used, But like you say it's the way its done not been so obvious but saying or rapping same bars is just copyright shit copying lyrics is a no no👍
Lost tape
Wait till you find out how Jay-Z destroyed DMX's career once he took over Def Jam. Jay-Z knew he could never compete with DMX head to head.
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Not just X! Think about this....DefJam always had the hottest artists. We didn't hear Method Man, Redman, Erick Sermon and alot of those artists while he was at DefJam. Russell Simmons is in on it too! They knew exactly what was going on. Had to get rid of the STRONG MASCULINE VOICES. Hence all this soft kiddie mumble Crunk, drill and trap music. And GayZ becomes number one......cause he got rid of the rest of his competition. A true 🐍.
Fuckin truth in here. Dog man X wasn't the only one either
Facts to original post and 2nd reply
I never liked a song he did except maybe the one with Alicia Keys and that's coz her bit sounded good.
This is why I laugh when people say JAY Z is the Goat
Laugh again, he is.
@@billyda1jack15 LMAO ok. Ur Goat is a biter not a writer. Not even an opinion just facts
And he is. Cry about it
No way Jay z the goat yall tripping 🤡
SMH WOW FACTS over feelings
"Im not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others, I say a Big verse, I'm only bigging up my brother
Bigging up my Burrough
I'm Big enough to do it
I'm that thorough
Plus I know my own flow is foolish"
-Jay-Z
Then he continues the verse with some Biggie bars 🤣
those bars were lame, that's why he needed to spit biggie's
@@IllDawgable I ain't gonna say that tho
So then rings and things you rap about bring em out ....
Lol. Facts.
@@squarebidnezz4524He said i’m biggin’ up my borough but B.I.G. Isn’t even from Marcy he’s from Bedford-Stuyvescent yes it’s still Brooklyn but it’s exactly the same the same hood plus yes him & B.I.G. were friends but it’s not like they grew up together they met in 95-96 so who knows if B.I.G. would be cool with him taking so many lines from him…The Lox made a track about him then moved on…even Nas made a track about him & Pac then moved on but well in the 2000’s Jay was still taking B.I.G.’s rhymes not only from well known songs but also from radio freestyles , unreleased tracks etc which to me goes beyond “paying homage” cause how is it paying homage if nobody knows where you took it from since it’s from rare tracks by B.I.G. that most people don’t know about…to me that’s biting & it’s worse because B.I.G. is gone so don’t know if he would be cool with that…they were friends but they had a friendly rivalry as well so i don’t think B.I.G. would be cool with that plus the fact that he also took from Snoop,Pac,Nas,Big L,Big Daddy Kane,Rakim,Slick Rick etc proves that it’s not just “paying homage” cause in a large portion of all his tracks he steals rhymes
Hip hop heads in the early 2000's knew Jay-Z was a swagger jacker because we remembered all the Biggie lyrics he was spitting. That's why we loved Ether so much.
Facts!!!!!!!
I can list like 10 lines Biggie said from other songs what’s your point?
deflecting will not clean up Jay Z's reputation, butthurt boy. @@sebastienc.2257
@@sebastienc.2257Don't bother, these Jay-Z haters will always stick to their narrative.
Thank you . Nothing new
Cam'ron exposed the hell out of Jay with this . Every Jay-Z fan I know was shocked and even hurt lol
I myself was a big Jay-Z fan (alongside Nas) when I was a kid but, when I saw this same video right after I graduated from High school that he was reacting to, I felt exactly how you described lol. After that, I immediately stopped collecting Jay-Z's albums and paid no attention to Jay-Z anymore.
@@C-Thunder lol thts good fo yo A$$.
The south been knew jay was fake.
I was too. I thought he was real
Guess y’all heard the joint where cam is doing the EXACT SAME thing….
@@ObiKwabKenobi damn I forgot about that lol good point
Jay-z has had writers cooking up entire hooks for him and ideas too
That notion that he "freestyles" everything is a myth
Premier admitted to seeing Biggie and Jay Z do it.
@mizrawthemikesparka2342 on jayz 99 problems them first 4 bars not to long ago I had to strong arm a hoe - that's bun b word for word but jayz freestyle everything lol
"That's too many fuckin' salutes!" 🤣🤣
Exactly lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yoo tht took me out.! Lol 🤣🤣😭
Lollol 🤣
Much respect to u bro for putting this video out
💯
🙏🏾
Remember hearing Jay-z 03 bonnie & clyde and thinking, isn't this just 2Pacs song but with Jay'z and Beyonce lol. Basically just flipped Me & My Girlfriend and made it his lol. Had to turn that shit off half way through.
Simple. JayZ has and always will have a massive machine behind him.
its called "Freemasonry" THE most powerful 'machine' behind every secular artist, ever.
@@julyonlamont00 exactly
@@julyonlamont00 you mean free messianic
Those People Kanye keep talking about
@@julyonlamont00 actually he got the machine behind him when he snitched to the (J E W W S) on Dame dash Jay Prince Suge Knight and and others when they was all coming together to form their black distribution company.
I’ve been shouting this from the rooftop for years! Nice job Stevie! I love this video and all the comments giving Ice-T his due! Ice is so humble, he didn’t create a beef about it, barely mentions it, always acknowledges the idea coming from Schoolly D. Jay Z needs to be called out on this big time!
Yea. Because Jay Z paid him for it lol.
@@brotherLee340 I haven’t found anywhere that says he paid him. Regardless, he used the whole hook, even ‘hit me’ …just give him a shout out, Jigga
Jay-Z stole the song "Do It Again" from a DC go-go band. The original song is called Overnight Scenario.
You know that when you go to CVS and get that long ass receipt that takes 2 minutes to print, this is the rap version of it.
😂
LOOOOOOOOOOOONG A** RECIEPT!
THANK YOU DAWGGY 4 BRINGING LIGHT TO WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE FOR YEARS... Dude not the Goat
I stay trying to tell people this. They in too deep on the dick riding training to stop now
Best rap career by far. Biggest Boss in the game.
Even if u don't like Eminem, unless you live in fantasy land, Em's had the bigger rap career & it ain't close.
@@billyda1jack15 biggest rap career? I feel like you don’t know the stats
Exactly jay z bit jaz-o before all this too .. he's literally been doin It his whole career.. it just happens he was the dude that "they" wanted .. and sold out the most to get where he is..
Nas told everyone, just listen to Ether. “KRS already had an album called Blueprint”. “How many Biggies rhymes gonna come out your fat lips??”
Krs had a album called the blueprint of hip hop history, get nas meat out your throat
Jay has been finessing the game since day one.
Pac could see the bitch in him.. Could read him like a book.
im not a rapper im a hustler i just happen to know how to rap
@@tg2servicesllcgraham953Swaggerjacker
That was eye opening and a source of sadness too. I can't keep rating him as high as I always did after seeing this.
Lets not forget his Blueprint series, and the first one to do an album called "Blueprint" was KRS One in the late 80's, and KRS' record was big in the 80's....
Yeah I was so confused and mad when he did that Bullshit and refused to 👂🏾 listen to it.
Thanks for checking this out Stevie, glad I could help 😉
The Slick Rick one was crazy. I knew exactly where that came from, when I first heard it in 2001. The Ruler's back was the song. First song of the Blueprint. Slick Rick The Ruler.
And Slick Rick's song "lick the ball5" was taken from Crown Royal's "Kick The Ball".
So snoop wack for for Lodi dodi
Oh stop, he wasn’t biting, he was paying homage. It was actually in the title. Slick Rick was on Blueprint.
Where you think Biggie got the hook from for Hypnotize?
@@jeanmichele3843 pretty sure Rick the ruler is the most quoted/sampled hip hop artist
This came out when I was in primary school or early high school it was such a big deal in my area NOBODY dared play any Jay Z music until graduation (I'm a '91 baby). I've never understood hiphop fans yet again I'm a qualified maketing strategist.... That Moet effect. His wife is exactly the same they both such frauds and creative thrives wicked they are.
No homework needed Steve! This shit is accurate As It Gets!!
Jay Z was spittin' Biggie lines as a way to show love back then. Then every other rapper started doing the same thing around that time. So what are we talmbout?
@@alexmighty9004 nooooo
Its about what machine you have behind you. And that depends on how much influence potential they think you have. I'm not a big rap fan, but I believe this applies to all forms of the entertainment world. And majority of the public don't research or dissect anything. As long as it looks good, sounds good, taste good and feel good, we (think it's) good.
They love a submissive knee gro
And jay is it to the z
Well jay didn't have a machine. Def jam turned hin down
This is true. I know amazing rappers with solid work ethic that go nowhere compared to rappers that hire a good team. Being good is important but not enough. Ur team is essential
Jay z bought "I'm Feeling it" song from Camp Lo
Jay is a cool rapper but I've never considered him the goat
Well, your opinion doesn't count, jay can be anywhere between 1 and 5
Same em is the goat
@@KingGreen78 who are you ?
@@deeaye2183 your pop son
@@KingGreen78 bro it is just an opinion not personal people view things differently does not mean they hate him it is just preferences like some people are vegeterians and others aint does not mean he is bad or hated
Just want yall to know there is a version of this with Cam'ron using lines too... This backfired on him when it dropped
They either don't remember or don't want to bring it up.
Thanks @king dotta.
@@chineduonyeoziri7408 Well Camron is not considered the goat today or his he? how can they consider you the goat when you ve been stealing from others especially when some of your most memorable lines were stolen from others?
There is but many of those were the time people were jumping on others instrumentals Jay was releasing these as his tracks not gonna lie they did catch him but nowhere near the same capacity
“Love you like cooked food” in ‘Song Cry’ comes from G-Dep
That face you make when Biggy starts, real hiphop.
When was in the zone when snoop came on the track 🤣
notorious b1 ... biggie bit his shit
Snoop did his version of "La Di Da Di" but he definitely gave props and shouts to Slick Rick the Ruler.
Snoop said he did songs for him and Dre!
I remember when Nas dropped that Ether song. I didn't know it was this bad, damn LOL!
I've been making music independently for over 20 years and was raised along side hip hop and I listen to all genres, when it comes to hip hop most "producers" don't make their own sounds, they sample which is fine if done properly, there are very few actual composers, people bite lyrics all the time, sometimes as a shout out or reference and others just aren't creative and steal shit. The industry and business side is a whole other animal, they will steal your NAME, Album titles, and use their position and leverage to make sure you are never heard of, all while they steal your ideas, themes, you name it. The worst violation is when "major label" artists steal from an unknown. Show business is just that...alot of fake shit. Pay to play. I can go on for days about this, I've been at the label offices, hustled mixtapes back in the day, radio, performances, etc etc...the contracts. It's not for a weak spirit that's for sure. Im in a good space and continue to do this because I love the artform and I don't even worry about making money from it, I don't sell my soul 💯 I share my God given gift with the world freely. But yeah this video you posted is the tip of the iceberg lol
doesn't justify all the other lyrics from other mc's/rappers he stole from. That's a bit too many.
@@Dapper_Dean I agree, it's alright to pay homage and reference bars etc but when thats the majority of the content that's kinda suspect.
This is legit. I bought a mixtape off of a rapper selling them outside of a Circuit City back in the day. A year or few months later I heard the same song on a Jay Z album. (I gotta see if I can find that CD)
KRS ONE had a album named " The Blueprint" before his.
Wrong......krs one album was called
Ghetto music, the blueprint of hip hop
That Cam’ron / Jay-Z beef era was amazing. You just had to be there.
Jr Writer bodied Tru Life with a freestyle he did with Camron talking at the end that he saw a camel on a camel LOL
Hey stevie not sure if you have reacted to it or not, but point of no return by immortal technique is a fire song. The lyrics and meaning is incredible and the beat is fire. I highly recommend.
They say Jay be in the studio trying to summon Bigs spirit
Jay is a perfect example of perfect time, perfect place you had the passing of the goats , BIG and PAC someone was gonna step in I always felt like Nas was next and to those that know they know he’s top G but he doesn’t seem like the type to follow directions from label owners. Now Jay is good but at the end of the day he’ll stay in line if he’s told to do so (my own view) so they pushed Jay out like crazy so perfect timing now perfect place he’s from New York at they time late 90s New York was on top it is what it is, if he had come from Houston or something it wouldn’t have worked I mean look at Scarface if he was born in New York everyone will consider him top 5 and it’s unfortunate some people don’t really know his music. It happens in sports too, look at Messi came in for real for real when Ronaldinho the goat was on his way out perfect replacement and the media can push him as the nice humble guy to appeal to the masses unlike Ronaldinho who was a party animal. Perfect time, perfect place Barcelona a team that suits his attributes as a player can you imagine him starting his career in England or Italy two very physically dominating leagues who knows what could had happen.
Lets not forget Big L and Big Pun passed away too.
@coldones9505 jayz was already big before pun and big L died....
Jayz went 5 times platinum in 1998 right after biggie died in 1997
Pun and big L was still alive in 1998
I remember when this dropped, I wasn't really into East coast hip hop. At the time I only listened to Cash Money and other southern artists like Pastor Troy, Three6 Mafia, etc. So this wasn't a big deal to me, but looking back I feel like this should have been a bigger issue.
It was you missed it that's all. This was on every hip hop website all in the streets and at schools, I'll never forget when I first heard it, I was like 14. It was a huge deal to us
@Akeem I remember hearing the track, and like a week later not a peep about it. But then again Jay was "retired" and has never been as big since so you probably right, I probably missed all the fuss.
Besus, wut about dat *PIMP* movement coming out tha south during this time period (ie: outkast, *TELA*, ugk, *MJG* & 8ball, etc.) oR dat *gangsta* (ie: *SCARFACE*,etc.)??
For context, Jay z and biggie was a group called “the commission “ when he passed, biggie on jay z first album, jay z is on life after death, they got a few records together, actually friends from the same block etc… he wrote snoop n Dre biggest hit also
That Slick Rick line was so funny 9:49 because he only changed the name lmaoo
Jay and Drake the masters of wave riding
.... which is an art in and of itself tbh. I don't really fuck with them as artists, but it takes some savvy to be that successful even if you riding in someone else's lane 🤣
They have the machine driving it.
yep neither really had talent but were heavily pushed by big money
Facts
@@tokertalk9648 you say Jay not talented? And drake not talented? Stop hatin
Bonnie and Clyde had a lot of Pac and Prince in I remember that
Duh thats done on purpose to give a nod to those songs. Yall slow this aint biting.
Imagine being in everybody's top 5 but they don't know this about you... 😐 That's some life changing ish 😅.
i'm guessing that's why he never wrote anything down in the studio because when you hear the words they sound nice but once you see them written you would probably be like hold up why this look and sound like oh snap thats just what crossed my mind watching this.
I am a West Coast guy and wasn't ever a fan of Jay Z. But didn't Jay Z write some of snoop and Dr.Dre's music for them?
When you understand he was planted in the community, then you can understand the machine behind him.
Jay-z was around for years before he blew up though. So I don't get how he was planted. His old rhymes style didn't work just like Commons did.
He is definitely a plant
Facts
@Clark Townsend Willie O'Neal was around for a long time too, but that don't mean he wasn't planned does it? Fabulous said it best, never value the length of a relationship over the strength of a relationship...
@@clarktownsend8991He had to have time to steal bars , and get his so called steet image together.
Lmao I remember this diss from when I was in high school. I was a real big Dipset fan back in the day so when Cam went at Jay I was all in. I've played this diss for damn near everybody at the time.
LMAO Cam said "you look like Joy Camel"
We Bluetoothed tf outta the song everybody had this on their Sony Ericsson 😂😂😂
“That’s too many salutes” 😂😂😂
Lmaooo
I remember when the Camron swagger jacker song came out it was epic at that time. I believe Jay-Z dropped Dig A Hole as a response for it. What a time to be alive lol
@NeishaNineStarz Swagger jacking is when a artist is pretending as if they are the originator of something or that idea came from their own mind (or brain). Jay was only saluting Bigge with rapping those verses that most people already knew that Big rap those verses first anyway.
Stevie Knight saying maybe Jay is saluting Big to much, as a 44 years old Blackman i say another Blackman can never salute another Blackman to much or never salute a Blackwoman to much.
@@naaimshareefslick Rick and snoop too ??
@@baddnewz8779 Indeed. Snoop is one of the first (if not the first) back in 1993 to do a rap cover song when he did lodi dodi. Snoop paid tribute to Slick Rick, and he receive backlash for it.
Nas already said this in Ether 😂. That was his biggest theme of the Ether track. Listen to it again. Jay is an opportunist and I been said this.
And then later in his career he relied heavily on features to make good songs
Takeover was way better than Ether
but what's wrong being an opportunist? if you saw the opportunity to better your craft and life, would you pass on it?
@@barry4649 not if you actually understood Nas the lyrics in Ether and the references
@@deepspace_diver look up the definition of an opportunist. It's not just a person taking an opportunity. It's a person that does so at the expense of others or morals.
@@mickey10jb80 true, I guess I did did take the word abit too literal. But anyways, Jay Z took advantage of biggie and Snoop Dogg? Two of the biggest names in the rap game? And he thought no1 would notice. I don't think Jay Z did that like in a opportunistic way, I don't think Jay Z is that dumb. I genuinely Jay Z was just tipping his hat to them, It may be sus that he did so many times, but maybe he is just the type to tip his hat to the people everytime he got the chance.
And why point that shit now, these song been out for years. I believe people are just using Jay Z's name to get attention.
Much Love for putting this out, ive always knew something was up.
Did he bite on his God did verse too ? Come on
Definitely need to do more of these! It’s different when you say “like (insert name) said…” then say the line. You can get away with that for a little while but don’t do it too much. You’re at least acknowledging someone said it first and not just saying it then afterwards go back and try to say you were paying homage.
😂 😂 😂 I've been sayin for DECADES 😂... JAY has NEVER been in my top 5! I'm from the city. Been listening to hip hop since 87...we didn't have all of the music that's out like nowadays so we HAD TO PAY ATTENTION to what was said.
9:44 - Man said SHIIII while shaking his head 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I could feel the disappointment in his reaction
The original version of this it’s well over 20 minutes. It came out in the beginning of 2000s. Cam’ron put this out when they started beefing. One reason why I didn’t listen to him back in the day. To keep 1000 someone did one on Cam’ron too.
This reminds me of a video I saw about Luther Vandross is the greatest covr artist. I knew he covered a few songs but someone put them together and I was like , "Wow his whole career was just covers but they were great ones."
Yeah. I realized a few years ago just how many amazing covers Luther did but Luther is known for his amazing singing ability. I don't think he or anyone ever claimed he was a songwriter. Thing is once Luther covered the song you just completely forgot about the original and it became HIS song 🤷🏾♀️
That's interesting. I'm going to check that out. I know he remade Love Won't Let Me Wait and he remade The Carpenter's song Don't You Remember.
Singing is different than rapping though. A lot of singers don't write their own songs anyway.
badass, so glad you went and listened to it. Keep the amazing content coming!
Don’t know how you guys don’t remember this but in NY this was a major thing. Jay never officially responded to any of Cam’s disses that’s why it didn’t really get worldwide attention. Btw, there’s also a diss called “Silent Killer”, where it’s Cam biting off of rappers
I was a DJ during these times. It was def a thing. I still can’t understand how he’s gotten so far.
Both Killa and Jay WRITE for A LOT of people, big names write for big names!!!!
And JAY writes for so many rappers too 😂
This is him taking rhymes from popular rappers it’s known!! The rappers themselves say he is the Greatest you think they don know this? It’s cause they themselves have jacked from all others too. 🤦🏾♀️
@@Generik_ Because people are morons. And like his voice
@@bammyville not as much as jay z and drake
I'm glad you bringing that shit out. I always thought Jay Z was over rated. Right on Locco.
It’s like 3 parts to this at that 😂😂
It’s ok to use somebody else’s raps in your own song so long as you’re saying it in a way that pays homage and makes it obvious you’re referring to the original artist. Give credit where credit is due, and that’s all you gotta do to stay true.
nope, it's biting and Jigger is old enough to know better
Here we go. Wp telling us what are music is supposed to be😒
@@mayonaze2g Then crucify every rapper that takes classic lines, he aint the only on and don't fool yourself if you say otherwise
Agreed. I'm not a huge Puff fan, but literally every single one of his production is taken from another artist. He'd just remix it and add his own twist ... BUT say what you want, Puff never once tried acting like he wasn't doing that. He said it in every interview and even a lotta songs he'd shout out the original. Same thing with Dr Dre ... My issue with Jay (and I like Jay so not suddenly hating) but he and citing references and to me that's a problem. None of my favorite rappers of all time (Em, Big, Pac, Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang) do that and they're all original.
@@Hunterese123 😂
At the same time though, Jay wrote STILL DRE. 😬
Relax
Yea and drake lost , nas either him plus diddy got pac killed while the baby oil in the background
Oh god, then you said, “The irony” 🤣🤣🤣
Put eminem verse in caperpillar.
“Damn dawg are you copying or paying homag” at the end of the video hahahaha
"I am, whatever you say I, if I wasn't then why would I say I am" - Eminem
That chorus is from one of his biggest hits. Do you realize that's from Rakim's song "as the rhyme goes on"?
@@ebozion32 you missed the point, with so many verses specially from biggie is he copying or paying homage? You are comparing a hook with what could be an entire album 😂
@@ebozion32 Yea one snippet he got from Rakim and Rakim always bigs Em up.He didn't steal his whole catalogue
@pitbull7676 Eminem is such a dope lyricist. To be honest, he was just paying homage to Rakim (I get it). But the Jay-Z bashing on this posts comments is overboard.
@@judgement81 I feel you but this video puts a whole perspective on things that I didn't even realize and I have been a hip-hop head since 1986
That's insane. Never knew he did it so many times
Nah this is real bro🤣🤣🤣💯
Nice to see someone take it for what it is and not defend everything he does and says because they are a fan. Jay Z capitalizes on what others around him are doing and make it his. Probably did that with all his other ventures. Takes your ideas and sees if he can make it bigger and commercialize it. Yea, You can call it smart but at the end of the day it's still BITING.
Been waiting for Cam'ron to get some attention on the channel, let's go
Damn I forgot all about that SMH 🤦🏿♂️
Back then it was a sin and beef if you stole another rapper's style or bars he brought his way through the industry and when he took over Def jam he put all the rappers that was better him on the shelves and just kept putting out Rockefeller or his own music all over the radio
I think his mindset is pretty clear, he is all about the mathematical route to quality tracks in a reasonable amount of time. A easy way to do that is to use proven hooks and flows. He is just a business man and cares little about the respect or art. Just a man after his money
Absolutely bang on
The corny route
Cookie cutter template type shit
@@Jimminityjabooboo Exactly
and when Dame points that out all the Jigger fans lose it
This is an old Camron clip. I forget how long ago, but it's been a while. They also did one for Camron, saying "He don't write sh!t".
One of these could be made for Em. One of these was made for Cam right after this. It's bogus to hold onto.
Pull ya skirt down b
Stop da cappp
You should watch Hip Hop Universe's video about the King of New York and it shows Hov biting dozens of lines/verses from Biggie in his music up to his last album 4:44.
"I'm not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others,
I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother.
Bigging up my borough, I'm big enough to do it
I'm that thorough, plus I know my own flow is foolish"
It's on of my my fave Jay Z songs of all time. Yes he "bit" a ton of BIG's rhymes, all of those Cam'Ron exposing I can confirm since they're directly from some of BIG's most iconic songs, but I also feel like that was the point; to pay homage to the great one. Idk I guess I never judged him for it.
doesn't justify all the other lyrics from other mc's/rappers he stole from. That's a bit too many.
As someone born & raised in BK Brooklyn and as a Jay, Big & NaS fan in my opinion I see nothing wrong here. I believe being in NYC during the time Big died left a whole in our hearts as New Yorkers. Jay & NaS had to fill a void that the city so deeply needed. Jay being from the borough along with being good friends with his Brooklyn’s Finest counterpart and legend put Jay in position to takeover the City and Hip Hop over all together. Let’s keep in mind in order to that he already had to be one of the best which he was and still is. All artist being music , art etc have paid respect to one another to some level. Jay is too skilled to have to “ Bit “ rhymes. In humble and personal opinion all Jay has done and still does is shows love to old and new artist and helps keep them relevant. Many of these rappers he’s paid homage to actually consider him as one of the best ever, Khilla included. On the Black Album “ Hands down my personal favorite he told y’all what he was doing , why he was doing it and then did it again right after in the verse. Pure genius 🙌🏿 ( see 👇🏿 ). Good conversation tho.
I'm not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others
I say a B.I.G. verse, I'm only biggin' up my brother
Biggin' up my borough, I'm big enough to do it
I'm that thorough, plus I know my own flow is foolish
So them rings and things you sing about, bring 'em out
It's hard to yell when the barrel's in your mouth ( R.I.P Big )
Cleaver said!! But why someone like Nas never do this? At least to this level I’m sure he said a reference line here and there but not to the level of Jayz!! He even took shit from Nas!!… 😂 nas put people on to Jayz bs many times camron took it further and made it funny…. Even to this day Jayz tries to shade Nas every time he drops a project! Why??????
Jay didn't even know Big that long b4 he died, they met during the Brooklyn Finest session. He knew Beans & Kanye longer than he knew Big
@@asylum1166 NaS out of the 3 is my favorite. I was introduced to his music 🎶 first and always respected him being before his time. With that being said NaS has paid homage in similar ways. Dr Knock Boots was his version of Ten Crack Commandments. In addition showed love to Big & Pac in his We Will Survive Track. NaS paid homage to Rakim in his Unauthorized Biography Track and sampled the flow and beat Paid in Full Beat in his Jay diss track after the iconic Hot 97 summer jam ft Jay.
I believe Jay & NaS continue to go at because that’s what you do in the sport of Hip Hop. Wether it’s Jay dropping a line like “ Who’s the best MC - Biggie , Jay-Z or NaS? & Nas dropping an Album 💿 called “ I Am “ is what these geniuses do. In my opinion it’s all good. As a fan I appreciate it.
Snoop is also one of my favorite rappers. He blessed us with his classic DoggyStyle. One of my favorite tracks on the album is “ Lodi Dodi “ paying homage to the legendary Slick Rick who all of the greats admire as well. I’m going back to Cali by Big is him showing love to Queens legend LL Cool J. Once again I appreciate it.
@@354allday In my opinion when you are from where someone else is from and can relate to some of the same things you experienced growing up in life usually stronger bonds are built between individuals. It’s almost like going away to college and meeting someone who is like minded and you becoming closer in friendship then someone you grew up with all of your life. I’ve been blessed to have Best Friends that I knew all of my life and some who have entered in it in later stages. This could be similar with Big and Jay in my opinion.
I guess that gives the Outlawz permission to use 2pac's lyrics. It gives Cam'ron permission to use Big L's lyrics. Lil Durk can use King Von's lyrics.
The next line in that verse was "I say a Big verse I'm only biggin up my brother.." what are we talking about this is 10 mins of thousands of hours of rappin.
One story to why Jay quotes Biggie's subtle bars so much is said to be a way for Big's estate to get paid off of it.
''I'm not a biter I'm a writer put myself in others, I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother, biging up burrow, I'm that thorough, I'm big enough to do it plus I know my own flow is foolish'' .... proceeds to use a BIG line ''so the rings and things you sing about bring'em out, hard to yell when that barel in your mouth''... Jay Z - What more can I say
Killa Cam... ''you gotta love it'' .............that beef was quite entertaining.
Imo if you mention the name of the artist or the song is so famous you cant help but know it. Jay stealing bars no one remembers and tried passing it as his own. " your reign on the tip was shorter than leprechauns" Big dissed nas wuth that and Jay turned around and did it.
@@rightouskofi7861 100% agree. its a cheap sneaky tactic... worst part is overall Jay did not even need those bars, he's nice on his own.
@@bigsne5904 That's my issue too. Dude more than talented to not be doing that
Stevie tried to give Jay the benefit of the doubt but couldn't around 6:35 lol
I'm not a biter I'm a writer 4 myself and others when I say a big verse I'm only biggin up my brotha
People really have Jay Z and Drake on top 5, but they both do this.
100%
Yup. Drake didn’t only take a page out of the Jay Z book, he copied this whole strategy. Funny how that works.
And people like McDonald’s and think a Big Mac is a burger. It’s all a matter of perspective and some people’s perspective don’t matter
@@CaptWuppazz Why we have to bring the big mac into this? 😂 Interesting perspective lol
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Yikes. That video also told me a lot about myself because I know most of those songs and I never put it together. Granted, I was never a huge Jay-Z fan but being from NY I know a lot of his songs.
When I heard that "me and my girlfriend" song he did with Beyonce I couldn't go much further listening to Jay-Z. I respect his hustle but I never vibed with him as an artist
you definitely could do this with Wayne, he once spit a whole verse by Aaliyah in a feature
but it probably wouldn't be as long
Old hip-hop heads like myself have watched this brother morph into whoever the hot MCs were at the time. It goes back to the 80s when he tried to jack Big Daddy Kane's style.
#The Blue Print - Shootout to KRS One
No. Half. Steppin.
These are facts
@@BanditXVIII think he means how the Blue Print was KRS One album
@@sharrieflentz1035 Was simply using the lyrics in their context. 🤙
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Wayne has Ghost Writers aswell Stevie Knight, "Gallie The King, Jae Millz, " and more... All these SO CALL GOATS on everyones top 5 and top 3 had Ghost Writers/Songs Given to them at some point in their career ... This is why Eminem is the all time Goat . Eminem#1
You forgot Eminem is one of those ghost writers giving other artists food
Everyones top5 but not Em lol
@@roseroselyne9045 Oh, trust me... I been knew this. Eminem has written/Co-Written on numerous artist project/album, Such as Dr. Dre(2001 Album - Forgot About Dre, The Eminem Show - Say What You Say - Relapse Album - Crack A Bottle " Also wrote for some of the D12 Members(Bizarre) Rockstar, also has helped write for the Re-Up Compilation Album, and he's also Co-Written for Lloyd Banks (On Fire) .. And thats just the tip of the iceburg, their is more.. Eminem has done alot for Hip Hop.
@@SmokeX9 “I been knew this” isn’t English, at least not good English.
And if you break down Wayne verses you can find plenty of times he bit other artist.
I really hoped this lyric was getting called out: "Red or Green pill you live and you learn come on." from Excuse Me Miss ft Pharrell 🤣😂😂🤣Like no one ever corrected him. Like EVER.😂😂😂
And Hov has always said the bars in ways that you knew he was quoting someone
The Man literally say it. "I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother. I'm big enough to do it. I'm THAT THOROUGH/plus I know my own flow is foolish/So them RINGS and THINGS you sing about/bring em out"...
Thank you. These kids don’t know wtf they talking about. This vid was camron tryna shit on jay
Swagger jacker is one of the epic disses 😂
Bro that “i’m not a writer i’m a biter” sound bite is fucking hilarious 😂. And btw this video missed one. Listen to I’m Back by Eminem then Success by Jay Z. His opening bar is from Em: “I used to give a fuck, now i give a fuck less what do I think of success it sucks too much stress”. I think this shits hilarious but I still think he’s just paying homage. Rappers do it all the time, the chorus from The way i am by Eminem is straight from As the rhyme goes on by Rakim. Funny vid but doesn’t take away anything from the jigga man, ya’ll tripping.
Because this vid was made long ago, when cam was beefing
@@ChoKahnMiwang lol i know that, i’m just saying that there are a lot more that are not in the video because of when it came out.