Mutas, Ultras, Swarm Hosts are all very very very niche- feels like they could all need a bit of a rework. I dont get the slow hydras either to be honest.
this guy is one of the few casters i can tell what race he mains. Not biased he def loves his toss. He also critiques pros a lot for not being a pro himself.
Some of these Zerg units I genuinely scratch my head and puzzle over their role. Specifically Muta's and Ultra's. Would any Zerg player actually miss Muta's fast regeneration rate if they were actually useful for something? Fast regeneration seems like a thing they have to make people choose them rather than them actually having a role to do, it's like the opposite of design in a sense. I wouldn't even call them a scout unit since they come so late. Ultralisks are a bit better than what I used to think now that they can bully units out of the way, but I think they need their size to be restored to be properly useful in that role. Can they splash the same amount of units with their kaiser blades as they always could? In any case, I feel like they should probably have an extra pip of armour at birth to make the upgrade a little less required, because otherwise you should just make the upgrade baseline and probably increase the cost of the unit slightly to compensate. Broodlords should just have their bug fix bug fixed. It's a bug. It's moronic that the 'balance council' reversed that particular change.
Muta’s are likely hard to balance, because they step a fine line between underpowered and broken due to their extreme speed. Thor splash buff certainly not helping and rather than making muta’s obsolete using an already strong unit, they could have fixed other things(ravens…). Maybe a better option would have been to make muta a pre-cursor to viper, so after decent muta harass, when the hard counters start coming out, morphing remainder into vipers to support other units would still keep them from being a resource sink so you can still get your moneys worth. I mean we already do similar with corruptors or hydras Ultras are closer to balance atleast, but I still think the decrease in speed may not have been needed. The extra speed may have been useful against MM, but its biggest need I feel was for snagging hits on ghost before their sniper to oblivion. If they hadn’t also decided to nerf ghost supply, I’d have more to say on this front but for now, I’ll wait and see more how this situation plays out. As for Ultra AoE, thats always been same reduced splash for as far as I remember. Wasn’t exactly sure the reasoning it couldn’t do full damage to all targets hit though, since it’s a slash from both sides rather than a blast-type AoE🤔
Mutas make for a good mid or late game harasser, constantly going in and out of the bases and destroying workers while requiring less time to go back and heal to harass again. Its just that its not very cost effective compared to other mid or late game harass in other races (Terran Widow Drops, Liberators, Banshees even, Protoss Oracles, Warp Prism run-bys). You need to mass them to make them effective, eating away at your supply for a bigger or better army, not to mention that Zerg has to expand fast and trade inefficiently for an even fight. Ultras are no better, the kind of units that they're supposed to counter (MMM + Ghosts) tend to micro their way out and they get very little value in high levels of play, where you just need a micro check (in which pros just do it anyway). I remember watching a TvZ archon mode where Serral was on the Zerg side and they just couldn't win. It was incredibly disheartening to watch.
With even numbers and prime numbers being acceptable amount of gateways, you are not narrowing it down very much. The following are the acceptable amount of gateways: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. Numbers skipped: 9, 15
Other races aren’t as effected by walls as zerg, so not much reason to give zerg better walls. Can always do the evo + queen wall(ZvZ mostly) if you really needed to, but making it harder to have spare queens for doormen in the new patch will put a dampener on this. I do think they should give some sort of bonus to nearby structures and queens for layer and hive upgrades though, to actually incentivize building more than just 1 and to address some of these issues
@@MarsStarcruiser I don't think he was asking for an ability to wall off as Z, he's saying that walling off encourages turtling. You don't even want to wall off as Z against the other races.
That first game was good. He stuck to Zerg safe strats and he controlled like 60% of the map Vs Hero controlling like 15%. I think the problem with this now is actually Terran Medivacs, cos even if Zerg play the meta-safe strats, they're still gonna get hammered by a mediball
Yeah Nerf Nerf Nerf and it its always 2 sided, Zerg never had a chance since their only AIR is so far into the skill tree, and then the units are only air, until you have to focus more on more skill tree/research to actually get more air, compared to a couple of buildings from the other races.
The only thing i remember from those early videos is "Terrible, Terrible damage!" EDIT: LOL, then Lowko mentioned that 1,5 sec after my pause to write this :D
What are mutas, hydras, Ultras, Swarm H, Brood L used for? These units urgently need a restructuring and others like the Queen and Infestor to be more useful, for example, returning the Infested Terran was the only decent thing the Zerg had against air, but obviously, that scared them while the Snipe does remain.
I use the singular question mark in my chat as well, although I borrowed it from chess notation. Usually I use ? just to express confusion or "what are you doing?". At the same time, I use ! to express surprise in the form of "Whoa!".
I think it would be cool if Hydra frenzy gave them a damage boost after dashing followed by an attack speed slow. Would make them slippery is skirmish, but bad in rushing in.
What about giving the ability of contaminate on the mothership. It’s just a floating building anyways. That would let the mothership not die completely but it would give Zerg time to make other units or disengage.
mutas are too weak they should be cheaper. you pay 200 200 for the spire and 600 600 for the squad and kill 6 drones and get half minute to get ready for the attack
Just watched a game where mass mutas beat Terran late game against hard counters (thor, liberator) and won. They're just so agile and very high DPS they can fly around the map and just pick off everything that's not a hard counter (tanks, sentries, orbitals), then move in after with ground units to kill the muta hard counters. Any cheaper and it'll be OP.
@@floofy5529Seen games like that, but often wondered if they had such an advantage that they may have won anyways, even with say 30 more ravagers or some other equivalency bolstering their ground🤔 New thor change is a bit too strong against muta’s though. Not sure they should decrease muta cost, but should definitely consider when buff’ing something has gone too far. To watch 1200/800 in thors wipe almost 3K/3K in muta’s out in seconds in recent game was outrageous.
I think Mutalisks should get an upgrade. Option 1: Spire Upgrade This upgrade would let Mutalisks carry 2 supply worth of units. Queens could be included, though that would likely be for very committed attacks. For example, if 15-20 Mutalisks dropped Zerglings, Banelings, Roaches, or Hydralisks into the enemy base, the Mutalisks would be harder to focus down. They could strike, force a response, and then move to another base, leaving the dropped units to be cleaned up. Afterward, they could reload and repeat the tactic. While Banelings with this would be powerful, it would be a heavy gas investment, especially since Mutalisks can only carry one Baneling each. Option 2: Spire Upgrade This upgrade would allow each Mutalisk to “leash” one Overlord variant, like a Dropper Lord or Overseer, so it could move with the Mutalisks at their speed. This would make Mutalisks strong mobility supports while also increasing the utility of Dropper Lords. Splash damage would still be a major threat, as Dropper Lords don’t heal as quickly as Mutalisks. The overall goal is to make Mutalisks more versatile and synergistic while maintaining counterplay options for opponents.
Zerg has become the weakest race in the game. Especially after the Mothership buff, they can't do much against late game Protoss, and Terran is a literal cheat.
These games seemed insane to me. The zerg was up on eco and supply most of the games tried to do some harass and attacks and was batted away like nothing and protoss just walked over after awhile and killed him. Protoss had to mess up bad for zerg to win against the mothership/templar mix even though he was like 60 supply over him with 40 of that being army that should not be that close that if that if he did not feed templar to a meat grinder he probably would have won. Serral has ruined the game by making people think zerg is good and balanced, you barely see half of their units because they are bad or in-affective. Come on balance people I want to watch fun games.
@@jayyrod1Thought I was the only one. I’ve watched Lowko since he started and right about the last patch I just started mostly ignoring the subscription notifications… Not Lowko’s fault, it’s just that the game is kinda bad now…
@@SchmittySchfin I hope it changes but idk if it will. Lowko still does a great job casting but they have taken so much away from zerg, they're scared to buff any protoss unit in a meaningful way, and terran... Terrans om the balance council just want to secure their next wins for this upcoming year. I could be wrong but how does the race with the most answers for everything get all the good buffs? What's wrong with protoss that a lore accurate mother ship ruins a match up? And how does one mans superior skill constitute nerfs for an entire race? I am only a spectator of the game sure but what happens to the league when it's not fun to watch? I suppose we will find out together... Take care y'all see ya next upload!
"Mothership damage is quite significant" - said as the ship in question unloads on a bunch of lurkers and their health bars barely budge. Congrats, Blizzard. You've made the most expensive zergling killer ever.
Also, this is really random but I just realized that since SHIN is Korean, his name is probably pronounced SHEEN which translates to "god" in Korean. Not "God" like the God most people refer to when they say "oh my God", but just "a god', lowercase G. I'm Korean so, just figured I'd throw that out there if everyone didn't already know
Warp In speed is the same as always, it's just the regular production speed that's 3 seconds quicker. It's mostly relevant for early game PvT, not so much for PvZ I don't think.
@@LowkoTV I watched every zvt and there is a constant spam of blinkstalker agression and nothing can be done , blink maximum counter is supposed to be fungal( stalks with fungal cant blink) but guess what ? blinkstalkers do when they see a corruptor yes they blink in and killing the corruptor and the spell miss in the center of the screen, gg there goes the counter terrans ,dont have counter emp is not a counter , matrix is to expensive
at this point how often has swarmhosts or Muta's been a good idea? I like Muta's as far back as starcraft one, but it doesn't seem to do much of anything these days.
First convo: Shin: Why do they only nerf zerg and leave terran and protoss be Hero: (laughs) Shin: I'm tired Second: Hero: I'm still gonna lose Shin: (laughs)
Seriously can we please have some sort of death ball. I hate how much micro and decision making i have to do while toss and terran A move across the map after they turtle for 12 minutes..
Lore correct mothership… next patch it will have a new skill called incinerate, that will burn the whole map and kill all units, no friendly fire. Lore correct My AS
Problem they dont work and blizzard is so lazy that only worries about his all time fav race protoss and zerg in the dust , crappy units need "something": sh, ulisk,spore , cloud, hidra Ass speed ,b,lords, inf marine return? special hero unit only to toss, special patch for protoss and doing lame changes to zerg, no leviathan Z,or hyperion for T have a nice day
Swarm Hosts are so useless... The cool down is far, FAR too long. That last game was basically Shin uses his first Swarm Host wave, and then Hero just runs it down his base and the Swarm Hosts are sitting there doing literally fucking nothing because they can't. Change them so they pump out one every X seconds instead of like 3 every 40 seconds
Ive been wathcing sc2 for ~3 years now. Ive never played 1v1 (only the terran campaign). Yesterday I tried it for the first time agains a medium AI. Now I can appreciate the pro players even more. What is my 60apm to thier ~400? Im amused
Don't forget at least some of the voice talent for SC2 are SAG members and are on strike against the video game industry. Voice lines even in unit responses are really what makes video games good for me. Please show support on your social media for the SAG-AFTRA strike against the video game industry over AI generation of humans
terrans usually pull a single scv to prevent the probe from killing the scv building a structure, but thats the only time its worth it. Pulling workers will likely not even be able to kill it because the worker can just run away and you will end up losing a lot of money by pulling your workers off of mining.
Because of mineral walking. If you tell the probe to move to a mineral patch far away, it can't be blocked by normal units. It just phases through. Can still take damage, but it's really hard to damage with your own workers when it's running away. And you are losing a lot of money every second if you pull a bunch of workers. So, basically, it's expensive and you probably won't get the kill.
Might as well just remove Muta from the game. Absolutely useless unit unless for some reason your opponent goes old ground shooting units… which never happens.
13:26 SHIN: 매콤? (Spicy?)
13:55 herO: 예쓰 (yes) 안감(not going)
You're welcome.
Nice, now can we have a translation of the translation
@@gandy4213 and please translate the translation of the translation
@@gandy4213 Pretty sure they're saying which of them is gonna experiment and which is gonna do meta
37:47 Shin basically says, “come on, just give it to me bro” and Hero laughs at him for not giving him the natural, and then says “I’m poor”
9:19 I like how the probe did a little hop.
I came here to see if anyone else was going to comment on it. Nice.
I used to play Starcraft 1 when I was a kid. Somehow I never started Starcraft 2. Yet, your videos are so entertaining.
I can't believe Zerg has two units that basically have no purpose other than throwing the game
Mutas, Ultras, Swarm Hosts are all very very very niche- feels like they could all need a bit of a rework. I dont get the slow hydras either to be honest.
There was a patch where Hydras hatched with both speed and range but it was nerfed after one season or so.
Also @@AndreasÄhrlund-Richter-e8n don't forget Corruptors.
I think you could go Swarm Corruptor and just base trade but never seen it done. 😂
it’s the mark of a game that they’ve let go unfortunately
@@AndreasÄhrlund-Richter-e8n forgot broodlords
@7:00 “it’s even numbers or prime numbers for gateways only.”
That includes every number 1 through 8 lol
one is not even nor prime.
Next patch: we just removed Zerg entirely
protoss somehow still 3rd strongest race
Next patch they just remove Serral's hands
When you make Ultras or Swarmhosts, you're basically saying, "That's okay, I didn't want to win this game anyway."
More like mutas and ill timed swarm hosts.
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2:44 ?
why always
zerg is the one getting screwed
But they are Adjusting Protoss , Terran balance?
LMFAO
its hard man
protoss weak man
Ha
thanks
Classic opening and unbiased commentary, that is why Lowko is the best SC2 content creator.
this guy is one of the few casters i can tell what race he mains. Not biased he def loves his toss. He also critiques pros a lot for not being a pro himself.
@@AJ-happydad Oo lowko mains zerg...
@@AJ-happydadhe’s literally mained zerg for years now??
Ya I think lowko is underrated for his clear and consistent casting
Some of these Zerg units I genuinely scratch my head and puzzle over their role. Specifically Muta's and Ultra's. Would any Zerg player actually miss Muta's fast regeneration rate if they were actually useful for something? Fast regeneration seems like a thing they have to make people choose them rather than them actually having a role to do, it's like the opposite of design in a sense. I wouldn't even call them a scout unit since they come so late.
Ultralisks are a bit better than what I used to think now that they can bully units out of the way, but I think they need their size to be restored to be properly useful in that role. Can they splash the same amount of units with their kaiser blades as they always could? In any case, I feel like they should probably have an extra pip of armour at birth to make the upgrade a little less required, because otherwise you should just make the upgrade baseline and probably increase the cost of the unit slightly to compensate.
Broodlords should just have their bug fix bug fixed. It's a bug. It's moronic that the 'balance council' reversed that particular change.
Muta’s are likely hard to balance, because they step a fine line between underpowered and broken due to their extreme speed. Thor splash buff certainly not helping and rather than making muta’s obsolete using an already strong unit, they could have fixed other things(ravens…).
Maybe a better option would have been to make muta a pre-cursor to viper, so after decent muta harass, when the hard counters start coming out, morphing remainder into vipers to support other units would still keep them from being a resource sink so you can still get your moneys worth. I mean we already do similar with corruptors or hydras
Ultras are closer to balance atleast, but I still think the decrease in speed may not have been needed. The extra speed may have been useful against MM, but its biggest need I feel was for snagging hits on ghost before their sniper to oblivion. If they hadn’t also decided to nerf ghost supply, I’d have more to say on this front but for now, I’ll wait and see more how this situation plays out.
As for Ultra AoE, thats always been same reduced splash for as far as I remember. Wasn’t exactly sure the reasoning it couldn’t do full damage to all targets hit though, since it’s a slash from both sides rather than a blast-type AoE🤔
Mutas make for a good mid or late game harasser, constantly going in and out of the bases and destroying workers while requiring less time to go back and heal to harass again. Its just that its not very cost effective compared to other mid or late game harass in other races (Terran Widow Drops, Liberators, Banshees even, Protoss Oracles, Warp Prism run-bys). You need to mass them to make them effective, eating away at your supply for a bigger or better army, not to mention that Zerg has to expand fast and trade inefficiently for an even fight. Ultras are no better, the kind of units that they're supposed to counter (MMM + Ghosts) tend to micro their way out and they get very little value in high levels of play, where you just need a micro check (in which pros just do it anyway).
I remember watching a TvZ archon mode where Serral was on the Zerg side and they just couldn't win. It was incredibly disheartening to watch.
46:49 Interesting to see that the locusts time out all at the same time even though the timer animation gets paused by stasis
22:50 Got the "thinking for a starcraft player happens after the match" for Lowko bingo
With even numbers and prime numbers being acceptable amount of gateways, you are not narrowing it down very much. The following are the acceptable amount of gateways: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.
Numbers skipped:
9, 15
14:10 holyyyy since when does the like button glow when he said that o.0 xD
Still can't respect that we wanted to remove defensive turlte gamestyles but still have an easy protos and terran wall. Zerg always left in the dust.
Give zerg static upgrade frome melee and ranged and armor. Hell, buff them 50hp for lair and such
Other races aren’t as effected by walls as zerg, so not much reason to give zerg better walls. Can always do the evo + queen wall(ZvZ mostly) if you really needed to, but making it harder to have spare queens for doormen in the new patch will put a dampener on this.
I do think they should give some sort of bonus to nearby structures and queens for layer and hive upgrades though, to actually incentivize building more than just 1 and to address some of these issues
@@MarsStarcruiser I don't think he was asking for an ability to wall off as Z, he's saying that walling off encourages turtling.
You don't even want to wall off as Z against the other races.
Zs have been walling with Evo Chambers and Queens for about a decade...
yet another game where Zerg is the underdog with no real response to anything, they really can't even trade even anymore,
yeh shin was complaining how bad the match up is at the start
Imagine if he had 2 infestors against the blink stalkers tho
That first game was good. He stuck to Zerg safe strats and he controlled like 60% of the map Vs Hero controlling like 15%.
I think the problem with this now is actually Terran Medivacs, cos even if Zerg play the meta-safe strats, they're still gonna get hammered by a mediball
Yeah Nerf Nerf Nerf and it its always 2 sided, Zerg never had a chance since their only AIR is so far into the skill tree, and then the units are only air, until you have to focus more on more skill tree/research to actually get more air, compared to a couple of buildings from the other races.
Long time viewer, great matches, great commentating 🎉
No doors on the base is the most HEROic rule of Star craft
The only thing i remember from those early videos is "Terrible, Terrible damage!"
EDIT: LOL, then Lowko mentioned that 1,5 sec after my pause to write this :D
Looks like Dark taking a break and passed the title of crazy zerg guy to SHIN for now
What are mutas, hydras, Ultras, Swarm H, Brood L used for? These units urgently need a restructuring and others like the Queen and Infestor to be more useful, for example, returning the Infested Terran was the only decent thing the Zerg had against air, but obviously, that scared them while the Snipe does remain.
Reached 6 months badge just in time for another amazing cast from lowko ❤️
Thanks for the support Mike!
Missed opportunity to talk about the deva announcers line about your all out of minerals but there are rocks
I use the singular question mark in my chat as well, although I borrowed it from chess notation. Usually I use ? just to express confusion or "what are you doing?". At the same time, I use ! to express surprise in the form of "Whoa!".
I think it would be cool if Hydra frenzy gave them a damage boost after dashing followed by an attack speed slow. Would make them slippery is skirmish, but bad in rushing in.
@@bami2 stim gives a attack speed slow after it ends?
@bami2 that trades attack speed instead of health.
Hero isn’t going to stop using the all army hot key. But maybe he could start putting stasis wards in his front door?
What about giving the ability of contaminate on the mothership. It’s just a floating building anyways. That would let the mothership not die completely but it would give Zerg time to make other units or disengage.
No that is to op for the toss underDogs
excellent cast! ty tyty
Lowko a professional caster of 10+ years: "It a nerf because... well it got removed"
Me watching for 10+ years: 'Ah yes of course'
There is no door on the Hero's base. Hero hates door. He is a cat!
protoss went from being no buff to ultra buff to OP!
Single player cheat codes are always silly references. The code for god mode ("terribleterribledamage") is a reference to that particular Dustin meme.
mutas are too weak they should be cheaper. you pay 200 200 for the spire and 600 600 for the squad and kill 6 drones and get half minute to get ready for the attack
Just watched a game where mass mutas beat Terran late game against hard counters (thor, liberator) and won. They're just so agile and very high DPS they can fly around the map and just pick off everything that's not a hard counter (tanks, sentries, orbitals), then move in after with ground units to kill the muta hard counters.
Any cheaper and it'll be OP.
Have you ever played against mutas? Pros make it look easy to defend against them but as a diamond player it isn’t
1 shield and 2 cannons per base or 2 turrets? Stops up to 12 mutas. Mutas need to hit harder or cost less, like most zerg.
@@floofy5529 sounds interesting, what game was it?
@@floofy5529Seen games like that, but often wondered if they had such an advantage that they may have won anyways, even with say 30 more ravagers or some other equivalency bolstering their ground🤔
New thor change is a bit too strong against muta’s though. Not sure they should decrease muta cost, but should definitely consider when buff’ing something has gone too far. To watch 1200/800 in thors wipe almost 3K/3K in muta’s out in seconds in recent game was outrageous.
great games! great series!
SHIN said "I am having a Burger whilst we play". herO said "Ok order me a double cheeseburger with a pylon on the side" True Translation.
you can use google lens on your phone for quick translation via camera,
i'm too lazy to do it myself
this makes me feel bad for zerg they got stomped out this one
Wow this was right below the like button, its just as you said!
Thanks for the video Lowko. Swarm Hosts, the neglected love child of the Zerg. ❤
good video, broseph
great as always
Lowko, did you do a video analyzing the new maps yet?
Nope, I used to make those in the past but they wouldn't be viewed much. I think just casting the games and introducing the maps slowly is better.
If they are going to keep this expensive queen nonsense, they should increase the spore crawler range significantly.
I think Mutalisks should get an upgrade.
Option 1: Spire Upgrade
This upgrade would let Mutalisks carry 2 supply worth of units. Queens could be included, though that would likely be for very committed attacks.
For example, if 15-20 Mutalisks dropped Zerglings, Banelings, Roaches, or Hydralisks into the enemy base, the Mutalisks would be harder to focus down. They could strike, force a response, and then move to another base, leaving the dropped units to be cleaned up. Afterward, they could reload and repeat the tactic. While Banelings with this would be powerful, it would be a heavy gas investment, especially since Mutalisks can only carry one Baneling each.
Option 2: Spire Upgrade
This upgrade would allow each Mutalisk to “leash” one Overlord variant, like a Dropper Lord or Overseer, so it could move with the Mutalisks at their speed.
This would make Mutalisks strong mobility supports while also increasing the utility of Dropper Lords. Splash damage would still be a major threat, as Dropper Lords don’t heal as quickly as Mutalisks.
The overall goal is to make Mutalisks more versatile and synergistic while maintaining counterplay options for opponents.
Zerg has become the weakest race in the game.
Especially after the Mothership buff, they can't do much against late game Protoss, and Terran is a literal cheat.
These games seemed insane to me. The zerg was up on eco and supply most of the games tried to do some harass and attacks and was batted away like nothing and protoss just walked over after awhile and killed him. Protoss had to mess up bad for zerg to win against the mothership/templar mix even though he was like 60 supply over him with 40 of that being army that should not be that close that if that if he did not feed templar to a meat grinder he probably would have won. Serral has ruined the game by making people think zerg is good and balanced, you barely see half of their units because they are bad or in-affective. Come on balance people I want to watch fun games.
Yeh! This!! Serral is the problem
This latest balance round has left me not wanting to watch anymore StarCraft. It's just not fun to watch.
@@jayyrod1Thought I was the only one. I’ve watched Lowko since he started and right about the last patch I just started mostly ignoring the subscription notifications… Not Lowko’s fault, it’s just that the game is kinda bad now…
I blame bad balance council for not recognizing the extremely slim margin of error Serral had to operate at, just to make those wins happen.
@@SchmittySchfin I hope it changes but idk if it will. Lowko still does a great job casting but they have taken so much away from zerg, they're scared to buff any protoss unit in a meaningful way, and terran... Terrans om the balance council just want to secure their next wins for this upcoming year. I could be wrong but how does the race with the most answers for everything get all the good buffs? What's wrong with protoss that a lore accurate mother ship ruins a match up? And how does one mans superior skill constitute nerfs for an entire race?
I am only a spectator of the game sure but what happens to the league when it's not fun to watch?
I suppose we will find out together... Take care y'all see ya next upload!
First! ;) Thank's for casting - it's always a pleasure
Mamaship should have a main weapon like the large alien ships in the movie Independence Day.
I love those tryphophobia monster XD
2:05 but Alcyone also has a walled off section? It's just on the right instead of on the bottom
The single question mark is not just Korean. I do that all the time in game chat or in texts and stuff, I'm from the US
at 15:22 how did herO afford it? looks bugged?
"Mothership damage is quite significant" - said as the ship in question unloads on a bunch of lurkers and their health bars barely budge.
Congrats, Blizzard. You've made the most expensive zergling killer ever.
Zerg getting slaughtered in this patch on all fronts
"I love you Sarge!"
I was just wondering what happened to swarm hosts...
The title made me think Shin has an incredible play using swarm host beating his opponent. Turns out to be desperation Swarm hosts.
Also, this is really random but I just realized that since SHIN is Korean, his name is probably pronounced SHEEN which translates to "god" in Korean. Not "God" like the God most people refer to when they say "oh my God", but just "a god', lowercase G. I'm Korean so, just figured I'd throw that out there if everyone didn't already know
Can you set an all army hotkey prior to the game? I always do it in game manually
The lester was a good one😂
1° Game ending OMG 😮💨
Hi LowKo, may I know in what resolution do you play the game with? Thanks bro
i found the like button, but where is that comment section?
How do you access those graphs during the replay?
The new stalker warp in speed is going to be tough for zerg
Warp In speed is the same as always, it's just the regular production speed that's 3 seconds quicker. It's mostly relevant for early game PvT, not so much for PvZ I don't think.
@@LowkoTV I watched every zvt and there is a constant spam of blinkstalker agression and nothing can be done , blink maximum counter is supposed to be fungal( stalks with fungal cant blink) but guess what ? blinkstalkers do when they see a corruptor yes they blink in and killing the corruptor and the spell miss in the center of the screen, gg there goes the counter terrans ,dont have counter emp is not a counter , matrix is to expensive
i love swarm hosts
Thanks lowko, now i can eat in peace 🙏✨
at this point how often has swarmhosts or Muta's been a good idea? I like Muta's as far back as starcraft one, but it doesn't seem to do much of anything these days.
First convo:
Shin: Why do they only nerf zerg and leave terran and protoss be
Hero: (laughs)
Shin: I'm tired
Second:
Hero: I'm still gonna lose
Shin: (laughs)
The zerg need a late game flyer that can attack air and ground. Tired of seeing zerg stuck on the ground. If not that, bring back the scourge.
Seriously can we please have some sort of death ball. I hate how much micro and decision making i have to do while toss and terran A move across the map after they turtle for 12 minutes..
i really hope zerg gets a bit more positive attention from the next patch notes i dont like the changes
Would swarm hosts be OP if they cost 1 fewer supply?
Lore correct mothership… next patch it will have a new skill called incinerate, that will burn the whole map and kill all units, no friendly fire.
Lore correct My AS
I love the swarm host siege playstyle
Problem they dont work and blizzard is so lazy that only worries about his all time fav race protoss and zerg in the dust , crappy units need "something":
sh, ulisk,spore , cloud, hidra Ass speed ,b,lords, inf marine return?
special hero unit only to toss, special patch for protoss and doing lame changes to zerg, no leviathan Z,or hyperion for T
have a nice day
Protoss doesn´t have doors, but they have gates xD
Just in time for sleep!
Whichever name Lowko puts in the title is generally the winner of the series
Yay Zerg games
the g is silent amidala ;)
@lowko, why is it written best of 5 and we only see 3 games???? please explain yourself !!
Swarm Hosts are so useless... The cool down is far, FAR too long. That last game was basically Shin uses his first Swarm Host wave, and then Hero just runs it down his base and the Swarm Hosts are sitting there doing literally fucking nothing because they can't.
Change them so they pump out one every X seconds instead of like 3 every 40 seconds
zerg is the only race that have units that is only used to troll other than be actually useful... they need to buff SH and muta...
Second game Hero just passed out or something.
Ive been wathcing sc2 for ~3 years now. Ive never played 1v1 (only the terran campaign). Yesterday I tried it for the first time agains a medium AI. Now I can appreciate the pro players even more. What is my 60apm to thier ~400? Im amused
too early for the translation, oh well 😂
Blizzard only focus on protoss , terrans are fine and zerg need lots of love❤, b.lords, ultras, s.hosts, spore,mutas, cloud , hidras
Lowko. you know you can get out your phone and use google lens to translate the chat yea ?
Don't forget at least some of the voice talent for SC2 are SAG members and are on strike against the video game industry. Voice lines even in unit responses are really what makes video games good for me. Please show support on your social media for the SAG-AFTRA strike against the video game industry over AI generation of humans
This missing Zealot in the door ever and ever again that is so Bronze League.
hehe why so complicate just 4 gate Q up to full stalker and attack !!! good till midgame/late
Question for smarter people then me. Why don't pros pull the drones/workers in the early game to kill the enemy worker that is scouting their base?
terrans usually pull a single scv to prevent the probe from killing the scv building a structure, but thats the only time its worth it. Pulling workers will likely not even be able to kill it because the worker can just run away and you will end up losing a lot of money by pulling your workers off of mining.
Because of mineral walking. If you tell the probe to move to a mineral patch far away, it can't be blocked by normal units. It just phases through. Can still take damage, but it's really hard to damage with your own workers when it's running away. And you are losing a lot of money every second if you pull a bunch of workers.
So, basically, it's expensive and you probably won't get the kill.
As someone in mid 30s it make me loveheartly cringe when Lowko tries to replicate Gen Z. Feel ya bro :D
Cannot wait to see how Serral is doing on the new patch. I think it'll feel hopeless for Zerg until he shows the way.
Last I heard he’s a toss now, so we may not get it until he returns to zerg😅
Now you also start this "illegal" shit...
Might as well just remove Muta from the game. Absolutely useless unit unless for some reason your opponent goes old ground shooting units… which never happens.
frfrfr lowko
boosting algo comment
Hear me out make SH 1 supply cheaper 🎉
I was working while listening to your commentary until this part of the clip(29:14) made me cringe, and I couldn’t work anymore, man. lol
29:18 should i unsuscribe? JSJSHS