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For all the people complaining about the trees being cut down, they are replanted as part of a forest mangament lease. In Canada were Iam we average 9000 fires in a year destroying over 2.5 million heactares of forest or 25 000 square kilometres. These areas are often replanted or left to regenerate on there own, the pines need a fire to reseed themselves. Government foresters monitor the health of our forests and make choices based on scientific research as the best thing to do. Sometimes thats clear cut logging, or selective logging to battle diseases. Certain species of trees only live so long and start to die then diease and insects come along so we harvest them before it happens.
Hydraulic crane with grapple? I work on a timber carrier and that's the only way we're getting loaded. It's fast and those cranes can get really big. MANTSINEN 300 is a beast.
Manish Agarwal This shows a dock area in Astoria Oregon USA. The bridge in the background is the Astoria-Megler Bridge crossing the Columbia River to the State of Washington. That bridge is about 6.55 km long. The ship pictured is oriented more or less north and south.
Jeez. There has to be a better way. I've decided I will devote my life to timber-loading efficiency in the hopes of bettering the process for mankind. I will spend almost every waking hour studying how it's done around the world, delving into the history books to unlock the secrets of how our ancestors used to load timber onto large cargo ships.
Thank you for the video. This appears to b a time consuming, not to say dangerous process. If I may, a couple questions. How are the logs in the hold secured? The same cargo tiedown strap? I would Not want to have to go into the holds in a storm to secure the logs if they ever got loose! Also, How does the supercargo calculate the weight and centers of gravity for a cargo consisting of varying density/weight like logs? Again, thanks for this and all your videos.
The logs are not secured in the cargo holds, they are filled up to the brim, so much movement is not possible. As I am from the engine department I do not know about cargo calculations, I only know they load until a certain draft mark is reached, taking into account a certain weight for water, snow and ice accumulating on deck.
Hey Wolfgang did you take down the video of the logs going over the side and you guys going over the edge to part the cables? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
@@xfhnhhgjbvcfg I think they use chains as the weigh less than a grab, too much weight above the water line can cause stability issues and could easily capsize the ship.
on Lake Superior in November and December the weather became really bad so logs were often lost overboard BUT some enterprising guy developed a way to get 100 year old logs from the bottom - they were in great condition:)
That's a big business, there are guy digging up tree's from under the muck in rivers, some were lost when they were logging, but others are down there from floods and storms, they claim some of them are thousands of years old. They need oxygen to rot, without it they last forever, it's pretty cool.
I was once a shipping executive for a logs exporting firm in Sarawak. I was responsible for the ship space, ship loading capacity and documentation, The logs here were so beautifully trimmed. I am so familiar with the stevedoring loading the logs into the hatches.
I see a lot of comments that must come from people living in the inner cities. Live in the country or on a farm. It's very interesting to see how they keep the flow moving, from planting the trees to harvesting them. Tree farms are located in most states. Look them up and take a ride to visit them.
@@Bushguyrocks Yeah, what are they planting though? Mono-crops. Logged forests often go from a diverse ecosystem to a single-species "forest". Sure, tree-planting is better than no planting, but it's also not really adequate. We're also still deforesting what's left of the old-growth on the coast. It's not great.
@@ryandury in the lower elevations around here, depending on soil, moisture, elevation, etc, they are planting a mixture. At the higher elevations where it is all Lodgepole to begin with, they are planting all Lodgepole. Time to actually get out in the woods and know what you are talking about.
@@Bushguyrocks I am literally surrounded by woods and have a huge chunk of tree planting friends. Our forests are being decimated and it's quite obvious that is the case if you ever fly across the province or start scrolling around google maps in satellite view. I like how you also conveniently left out the subject of old growth in your response. Anyway, i'm not against logging entirely, I am a woodworker after all. But to what scale is it sustainable? At what point does the long-term value of old-growth for things like tourism outweigh the upfront value of logging? The issue isn't 'logging', it's to the degree that we are doing it. If tree-planting was such a reliable source of reforestation, maybe we should just let loggers log the trees they planted 3-4 decades ago? Surely there would be enough. But no: we keep expanding production, and that's the issue.
it is impressive how much that ship can carry, and though while it does look like an inefficient process to load them, its highly likely that these companies do everything in their power to find cheaper and faster ways to load lumber.
No they don't. They are Longshoreman and will be as slow as they can at everything keeping the cost high. I've worked around this all my life. In Alaska, we used non-union stevedores and could load a ship with 5.5 million feet of timber in 4 days. I know this ship. It only handles about 4 million feet. This is in Astoria, Oregon. Slowest port on the coast.
@@Thehoelogdog but the company would still want speedy loading... no? and were talking about the shipping companies who have international deadlines and contracts they have to fufill
I knew it as a Crankston, but I could not find any information online, they are usually owned by the Stevedores onshore, they are very heavy, we had to hook them up to the crane and oil them before each shift, they could easily fall over and smash your leg while connecting them up.
+twoaxis they used big grabbers and did not bother to damage the logs, some logs got broken in the process. Unfortunately I left the ship and had no time to record the unloading. I have only one picture which I wanted to upload, but I could not find a way to do it.
I know it as a Crankston, however I can't find the exact name of it online, I used to be one of the people that stood on the wharf and slinged the wire ropes around the log piles, then you would shove the metal end peice into the Crankston where it would auto lock into it. It was a very dangerous job, if it was windy those wires would fly around and they can take your head off, also logs would sometimes slip out of the pile and shoot out onto the ground.
@@terryrack2534 a couple years ago we had a safety audit and lecture from a guy that is from New Zealand, he was a great speaker and told some interesting stories about how they log there. I guess the Port Blakely tree farm here is owned by a New Zealand company and he was in charge of part of their safety program. From what he said, you guys have really done a great job over the last 30 years or so of improving safety down there.
@@terryrack2534 yeah that is pretty much what he said. The 80's and 90's sounded like they were a wake up call in the industry there. He talked about a family he knew that within a 6 or 7 year period the father and two sons all died because of poor safety procedures and unwillingness to change their ways.
This is one step of HOW Chinese-made oak furniture gets to American retailers. We grow the oak here, and ship it over there. They carve it up, and make furniture out of it, and ship the furniture back to us. For the "WHY" part, you'll have to ask most corporations.
yes, indeed very common, not only with logs, also with all sorts of general cargo. If the holds are full and the maximum capacity of the vessel is not yet reached, loading will continue on top of the holds. Certainly not with bulk cargo or heavy cargo like steel coils or bars, in such a case the maximum loading capacity of the vessel is already reached before the holds are full.
Those look like quality logs that we're selling to foreign countries they should be staying in there original origin. how did they know there's no insects and pests inside of those logs
Boy One boat load of logs would last me and my family and more than likely my great great great grandchildren! Oh yes I must state That we live in Alaska USA baby.
You should have showed the wharfies on the ground slinging the logs up. I used to work on the port doing this in N.Z. Those wire ropes are extremely dangerous, especially on windy days when we have to catch them by hand when the crane operator lowers them down to the warf, also logs could randomly slip out from the holds and take your leg off if you aren't alert.
@@Wolfgang227 I would be more interested in knowing how they thread the cable back in once at the destination and unloading. Looks like a new ship too, not all banged up from loading timber every which way.
@@GFSwinger1693 You are right, it was the first cargo. Unloading was done with grabbers. Unfortunately I had no time to record the unloading, I had to pack my luggage and hand-over the vessel, me (C/E) and captain got sacked. I made only one picture: drive.google.com/file/d/1tOJwSZ6G4VMjGqw_czSRp0oBZdDLBd4_/view
Those are pine logs for dimensional lumber for buildings they are loading. They would use hardwood logs such as oak, maple, walnut and ash for interior use in yachts.
I notice the timber is strapped to hoist it into the ship, but why not when its strapped to hoist also strap it up as a bundle that way when it gets to its destination the timber is in a bundle form and faster to unload and load ed onto the port.?
Perhaps, but it would make the whole process more expensive. That is the way we are loading logs since decades in many port in the world. If it is packed then it is cut into boards or shelfs, which we also loaded in some port but then the price is different, it all depends on the buyer and what facilities are available for the seller. In our case the loading is simpler and faster because the wires are automatically unlocked, without somebody needs to go there and unlock it.
I cannot tell you because a representative of the owner of the bulker asked me to remove this video, which I refused as it cannot be seen who is the owner.
where did it come from.. and where does all this wood go? and what was the destination (use) of these woods? industries or for civil construction? Do you know?
- The port is in Oregon, USA, at the Columbia river. There are a few more ports like this up and down the river. We carried the wood to China, but it is also exported to Korea and Japan. What for it was used I do not know.
I just answered this question in the last comment before yours. TH-cam sorts the comments according “Top Comment”, which I have no idea what this means. What is aTop Comment? Perhaps the ones with the most likes. Therefore I always have to click on “Sort By” and select “Newest first” to get a list with the latest comments. I would suggest to you to do the same and read my comment from yesterday. Anyway, thanks for you interest in my video.
Portland, USA, there is a lot of forest there, there are several such loading ports up and down the Columbia river. What kind of wood I do not know, perhaps relativ fast growing pine tree, which can be easy replanted.
@@LiPo5000 well most of the logging and reforestation is controlled by the state. But you generally have two years to replant the land that was logged and they will do a couple of audits of the planted trees to make sure the survival rate of planted trees is sufficient.
Lashing has been done before departure but those nylon lashings give way and have to be retightened. Before we used steel chains, tightened by crane which never got slack but this new cheaper nylon lashings give way. Later in a storm the lashings got slack and when the ship started rolling the big pile of logs started to roll from one side to the other and banged to the stanchions which would have been broken if we not immediately would have changed course to head right into the storm to stop the rolling. Later when the storm became less the crew had to go out and tighten the lashings again. I put the link to my other videos in the description above.
Those pine or fir trees grow relatively fast. There are more such ports up- and down-streams. Every week a ship fully loaded with logs leave this port. There are continuously ships on the way to Japan, Korea and China to supply logs. There was a ship ahead of us who lost part of his logs into the Pacific (see link below). I was already on ships 30 years ago and carried logs from West Africa to Europe and Mindanao Philippines, but those was high-grade wood, Mahogany and similar. We called it iron-wood because it sank, it did not float in the water and those trees were big, around 3 meters in diameter and those trees need many hundreds if not thousand year to grow (see link below). Those trees should not have been cut down, similar to the Mammut trees in the USA. photos.app.goo.gl/ThzyS3spyZmNN4M56 photos.app.goo.gl/4RwUngQDirVjvEGRA
@@alexsulzhits4247 Depend on the weather and wich country, about 7 to 10 days. If you look my video, you see us on the way: th-cam.com/video/fcbGVI1ClAM/w-d-xo.html
For all the people complaining about the trees being cut down, they are replanted as part of a forest mangament lease. In Canada were Iam we average 9000 fires in a year destroying over 2.5 million heactares of forest or 25 000 square kilometres. These areas are often replanted or left to regenerate on there own, the pines need a fire to reseed themselves. Government foresters monitor the health of our forests and make choices based on scientific research as the best thing to do. Sometimes thats clear cut logging, or selective logging to battle diseases. Certain species of trees only live so long and start to die then diease and insects come along so we harvest them before it happens.
Kirk: "Captain's log..."
Timber: "Exactly."
That was an awesome video. No stupid music, no stupid commentary, just a wonderful video. I would like to see how they unload that!
Sorry, I have only a picture: drive.google.com/file/d/1tOJwSZ6G4VMjGqw_czSRp0oBZdDLBd4_/view
Agreed it's way better to hear the equipment working.
I always go straight to the comments to see what the experts say
Its too slow 🐌 😪
🤣🤣
Love the accuracy used. Also well done on the editing and shots, keep it up. Hope to see more vids in future.
Guys are complaining it’s inefficient yet I don’t see any alternative propositions from such.
load the logs in to 40ft containers. Atm this is only done for specific timber.
Hydraulic crane with grapple? I work on a timber carrier and that's the only way we're getting loaded. It's fast and those cranes can get really big. MANTSINEN 300 is a beast.
Wow the tension strength on those cables is amazing.
I ran by that facility literally yesterday. The scale is amazing!
Manish Agarwal This shows a dock area in Astoria Oregon USA. The bridge in the background is the Astoria-Megler Bridge crossing the Columbia River to the State of Washington. That bridge is about 6.55 km long. The ship pictured is oriented more or less north and south.
Jeez. There has to be a better way.
I've decided I will devote my life to timber-loading efficiency in the hopes of bettering the process for mankind. I will spend almost every waking hour studying how it's done around the world, delving into the history books to unlock the secrets of how our ancestors used to load timber onto large cargo ships.
+enragedhedgehog So, how is that research going for you? Any interesting discoveries to share yet?
yes, someone has to do this. Good luck mate!
Why? So more of our lumber mill jobs can go to China more efficiently?
you are a saint to all of humanity
yea here in new zealand where pretty good at loading
Damn they can put the whole lumber yard on that ship
This is done in Astoria, Oregon, USA. The logs go to Japan?
china
ever wonder how u ran out of jobs?
Thank you for the video. This appears to b a time consuming, not to say dangerous process. If I may, a couple questions. How are the logs in the hold secured? The same cargo tiedown strap? I would Not want to have to go into the holds in a storm to secure the logs if they ever got loose! Also, How does the supercargo calculate the weight and centers of gravity for a cargo consisting of varying density/weight like logs? Again, thanks for this and all your videos.
The logs are not secured in the cargo holds, they are filled up to the brim, so much movement is not possible. As I am from the engine department I do not know about cargo calculations, I only know they load until a certain draft mark is reached, taking into account a certain weight for water, snow and ice accumulating on deck.
Oh very Good LOG CARRIER Loading Timber FANTASTIC EXPOSURES WELL DONE*******
Hey Wolfgang did you take down the video of the logs going over the side and you guys going over the edge to part the cables? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Danke für dein Kommentar.
thank you for sharing this helpful video :)
It's deforestation
To load all those logs takes about a week, only day work, no night shift.
Wolfgang227 seems like a pretty inefficient way to load them
Thx.....that's exactly what I was wondering.
Maybe a claw instead of chains
@@xfhnhhgjbvcfg I think they use chains as the weigh less than a grab, too much weight above the water line can cause stability issues and could easily capsize the ship.
How many tons or cubic meters?
I remember we loaded 21k tons of log from liberia west africa in 2 months for japan and japanese discharged it in one week
:))))))))) that one made me really laugh:)))))
Currently Liberia logs ship to where majority?china,India,Japan?logs marker too bad😂
I don't know what I expected.
Looks like a brand new freighter?
You nailed it. Maiden voyage.
It was either that or a fresh coat of paint ;)
@@Wolfgang227 They build them for hauling logs.
on Lake Superior in November and December the weather became really bad so logs were often lost overboard BUT some enterprising guy developed a way to get 100 year old logs from the bottom - they were in great condition:)
That's a big business, there are guy digging up tree's from under the muck in rivers, some were lost when they were logging, but others are down there from floods and storms, they claim some of them are thousands of years old.
They need oxygen to rot, without it they last forever, it's pretty cool.
Dont complain that its a slow operation. Its okay to be slow as long as its safe.
Yes go home to your family at the end of the day
Loading logs onto the cargo hatch is unlike loading general cargo
Actually thats quite fast for lumber. Must be a skilled veteran crew.
I was once a shipping executive for a logs exporting firm in Sarawak. I was responsible for the ship space, ship loading capacity and documentation, The logs here were so beautifully trimmed. I am so familiar with the stevedoring loading the logs into the hatches.
Thanks for sharing
Malaysia right ?
@@YamekDrope Yes.
@@YamekDrope Yes !
I from sarawak also supercargo timber load
+Wolfgang227 For perspectives sake, how big are those upright beams?
+William Delano the stanchions are 8.5 meter high, the width of the vessel is 30 meter, the length is 180 meter.
I never understood how those, doors worked thank you
Hmmm... which doors? Perhaps you mean the hatch covers.
VERY interesting
Good
I see a lot of comments that must come from people living in the inner cities. Live in the country or on a farm. It's very interesting to see how they keep the flow moving, from planting the trees to harvesting them.
Tree farms are located in most states. Look them up and take a ride to visit them.
British Columbia checking in. Look at satellite view of our province and tell me this is sustainable (hint: it's not)
@@ryandury
This was supposed to be a record setting tree planting season here in British Columbia. Then Covid hit.
@@Bushguyrocks Yeah, what are they planting though? Mono-crops. Logged forests often go from a diverse ecosystem to a single-species "forest". Sure, tree-planting is better than no planting, but it's also not really adequate. We're also still deforesting what's left of the old-growth on the coast. It's not great.
@@ryandury
in the lower elevations around here, depending on soil, moisture, elevation, etc, they are planting a mixture. At the higher elevations where it is all Lodgepole to begin with, they are planting all Lodgepole.
Time to actually get out in the woods and know what you are talking about.
@@Bushguyrocks I am literally surrounded by woods and have a huge chunk of tree planting friends. Our forests are being decimated and it's quite obvious that is the case if you ever fly across the province or start scrolling around google maps in satellite view. I like how you also conveniently left out the subject of old growth in your response. Anyway, i'm not against logging entirely, I am a woodworker after all. But to what scale is it sustainable? At what point does the long-term value of old-growth for things like tourism outweigh the upfront value of logging? The issue isn't 'logging', it's to the degree that we are doing it. If tree-planting was such a reliable source of reforestation, maybe we should just let loggers log the trees they planted 3-4 decades ago? Surely there would be enough. But no: we keep expanding production, and that's the issue.
Amazing
Truly impressive...
What a great video and ship thank you .
Thank you too!
Goonies never say die!
it is impressive how much that ship can carry, and though while it does look like an inefficient process to load them, its highly likely that these companies do everything in their power to find cheaper and faster ways to load lumber.
No they don't. They are Longshoreman and will be as slow as they can at everything keeping the cost high.
I've worked around this all my life. In Alaska, we used non-union stevedores and could load a ship with 5.5 million feet of timber in 4 days. I know this ship. It only handles about 4 million feet. This is in Astoria, Oregon. Slowest port on the coast.
@@Thehoelogdog That's not the point and Tim is right, moron.
@@Thehoelogdog but the company would still want speedy loading... no? and were talking about the shipping companies who have international deadlines and contracts they have to fufill
Excellent
Can you give me details about the yellow piece that opens automatically when the wood is in the floor ??? Manufacturer ??? THANKS !!!
Sorry, I do not know. I was working on the vessel and what you are asking about is shore equipment. You have to try to search the internet about it.
Hi, I'm also looking for the yellow device, did you find out anything?
I knew it as a Crankston, but I could not find any information online, they are usually owned by the Stevedores onshore, they are very heavy, we had to hook them up to the crane and oil them before each shift, they could easily fall over and smash your leg while connecting them up.
how do they get the logs out there once the cables are removed?
+twoaxis they used big grabbers and did not bother to damage the logs, some logs got broken in the process. Unfortunately I left the ship and had no time to record the unloading. I have only one picture which I wanted to upload, but I could not find a way to do it.
Hi there, what do you call that attachment on your crane that releases the wire when the knob is pressed against the timber?
I know it as a Crankston, however I can't find the exact name of it online, I used to be one of the people that stood on the wharf and slinged the wire ropes around the log piles, then you would shove the metal end peice into the Crankston where it would auto lock into it. It was a very dangerous job, if it was windy those wires would fly around and they can take your head off, also logs would sometimes slip out of the pile and shoot out onto the ground.
We do that at Fraser Surrey docks. The difference is we load ships straight out of the river.
Loading from the dock is for pansies ! We load right out of the water at Kultus Cove , NVI
How long does something like this take?
1 week
@@babayaga3866 My man comin in with the reply to a six year old question I don't even remember asking. You're a hero.
looks like Canada, top quality logs like we do in new Zealand, same trucks too.
This is in the port of Astoria, in Oregon.
@@mikesch7672 part of Canada isn't it? Just kidding you. Thanks.
@@terryrack2534 a couple years ago we had a safety audit and lecture from a guy that is from New Zealand, he was a great speaker and told some interesting stories about how they log there. I guess the Port Blakely tree farm here is owned by a New Zealand company and he was in charge of part of their safety program. From what he said, you guys have really done a great job over the last 30 years or so of improving safety down there.
@@mikesch7672 to be honest with you we have had a lot of deaths in our forests but in saying that it is improving.
@@terryrack2534 yeah that is pretty much what he said. The 80's and 90's sounded like they were a wake up call in the industry there. He talked about a family he knew that within a 6 or 7 year period the father and two sons all died because of poor safety procedures and unwillingness to change their ways.
After 8 years I am watching this video ❤️
*Very nice❤❤👍🤝🙏*
Great!
timber or lumber? as per tdc code..
This is one step of HOW Chinese-made oak furniture gets to American retailers. We grow the oak here, and ship it over there. They carve it up, and make furniture out of it, and ship the furniture back to us.
For the "WHY" part, you'll have to ask most corporations.
what country's logs are they?
is it common for the log's to get loaded on the top after the haul is loaded ??never saw that before !!!!!!!!!!
meant to say hold !!!!
yes, indeed very common, not only with logs, also with all sorts of general cargo. If the holds are full and the maximum capacity of the vessel is not yet reached, loading will continue on top of the holds. Certainly not with bulk cargo or heavy cargo like steel coils or bars, in such a case the maximum loading capacity of the vessel is already reached before the holds are full.
+Wolfgang227 thanks!!!
Those look like quality logs that we're selling to foreign countries they should be staying in there original origin. how did they know there's no insects and pests inside of those logs
Boy One boat load of logs would last me and my family and more than likely my great great great grandchildren! Oh yes I must state That we live in Alaska USA baby.
You should have showed the wharfies on the ground slinging the logs up. I used to work on the port doing this in N.Z. Those wire ropes are extremely dangerous, especially on windy days when we have to catch them by hand when the crane operator lowers them down to the warf, also logs could randomly slip out from the holds and take your leg off if you aren't alert.
Yes, sorry, I did not think about that. Anyway, it is a dangerous job.
Surely its safer to strap the logs while at dock then while moving. U could risk capsizing with a unsecured load specially in stormy weather.
I'm pretty sure that these guys are only retorquing the straps a bit, would have been strapped before leaving.
sailors like having logs as the cargo because the ship floats better. the ship actually rises higher out of the water as more logs are loaded.
Wooden boats also sink.
Root jati?
They sure do use up all available space.
The all mighty W port shipping timber. Longview Washington be a guess or Astoria area
I wonder how long that process took!
To load all those logs takes about a week, only day work, no night shift.
Was wondering how the cable was released from the load after being loaded, now I know. Thanks, good video
Glad it helped.
@@Wolfgang227 I would be more interested in knowing how they thread the cable back in once at the destination and unloading. Looks like a new ship too, not all banged up from loading timber every which way.
@@GFSwinger1693 You are right, it was the first cargo. Unloading was done with grabbers. Unfortunately I had no time to record the unloading, I had to pack my luggage and hand-over the vessel, me (C/E) and captain got sacked. I made only one picture: drive.google.com/file/d/1tOJwSZ6G4VMjGqw_czSRp0oBZdDLBd4_/view
@@Wolfgang227 How come you guys got the heave-ho?
Do You know how much final product expensive yachts interiors you can build with that?
Those are pine logs for dimensional lumber for buildings they are loading. They would use hardwood logs such as oak, maple, walnut and ash for interior use in yachts.
@@jamesrobinson1022 The logs from the PNW are likely hemlock, spruce and fir. Pine is a interior wood, not exported like this.
非常棒！
Talk about a game of pick up sticks to get that load unloaded.
Is this break bulk shipping
Very. Good this vídeo hapness
The modern world is amazing
What country is this?
U.S.A.
Where was this?
Portland USA.
I notice the timber is strapped to hoist it into the ship, but why not when its strapped to hoist also strap it up as a bundle that way when it gets to its destination the timber is in a bundle form and faster to unload and load ed onto the port.?
Perhaps, but it would make the whole process more expensive. That is the way we are loading logs since decades in many port in the world. If it is packed then it is cut into boards or shelfs, which we also loaded in some port but then the price is different, it all depends on the buyer and what facilities are available for the seller. In our case the loading is simpler and faster because the wires are automatically unlocked, without somebody needs to go there and unlock it.
name of the bulker ??
I cannot tell you because a representative of the owner of the bulker asked me to remove this video, which I refused as it cannot be seen who is the owner.
Astoria?
Yes that is Astoria Oregon.
Astoria OR
There has got to be an easier way. Especially if all logs are approximately the same size. Where's Henry Ford when you need him?
How is the timber being secured on the deck?
Astoria, OR. USA. They are moving a lot of wood out of the Columbia River.
where did it come from.. and where does all this wood go? and what was the destination (use) of these woods? industries or for civil construction? Do you know?
- The port is in Oregon, USA, at the Columbia river. There are a few more ports like this up and down the river. We carried the wood to China, but it is also exported to Korea and Japan. What for it was used I do not know.
How long time does it take to load a ship this way?
To load all those logs takes about a week, only day work, no night shift
@@Wolfgang227 yeah look like ut would take a while.
Port of origin ,destination?
Portland USA, exports to Japan, Korea and China.
Just make sure they don't catch fire
What is the name of the ship?
The owner does not like I put up those videos, therefore I cannot give you the name.
What is the vessel name?
Sorry, to avoid complications no names are given.
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ради гнездышка грача ,не рубите дерева.....
Fot how long ship stays in port?
About a week.
Where abouts is this?
I just answered this question, please sort the comments according "Newest first" and you will see it.
How come.timber vessels are give a smaller.freeboard
God bless ur be safe
Thank you, god bless you too.
where do they bring the logs?
I just answered this question in the last comment before yours.
TH-cam sorts the comments according “Top Comment”, which I have no idea what this means. What is aTop Comment? Perhaps the ones with the most likes.
Therefore I always have to click on “Sort By” and select “Newest first” to get a list with the latest comments. I would suggest to you to do the same and read my comment from yesterday. Anyway, thanks for you interest in my video.
@@Wolfgang227 oh sorry, am just lazy reading comments. thanks.
Mostly China
Which country???
Which wood
Portland, USA, there is a lot of forest there, there are several such loading ports up and down the Columbia river. What kind of wood I do not know, perhaps relativ fast growing pine tree, which can be easy replanted.
They were not shipping logs over seas, they were shipping jobs. I bet you can't guess the number of mills closed in Oregon and Washington.
I am sorry about that, I belief it will change in the future with the new policy " America first".
why do we sell raw lumber ?????
Unloading from the ship how to put slings?
It was done with grabs, some of the logs broke by this brute force: drive.google.com/file/d/1tOJwSZ6G4VMjGqw_czSRp0oBZdDLBd4_/view
Each timber equals 1 toothpick
Well if the ship sinks, there are plenty of logs for you to grab onto!......
That’s a lot of toothpicks.
I hope those trees are being replaced...
YES, most tree harvesting is monitored by the Federal Government. You harvest the trees, then you replace them.
@@LiPo5000 good
Replaced by machines? Our forests are becoming automated?
@@LiPo5000 well most of the logging and reforestation is controlled by the state. But you generally have two years to replant the land that was logged and they will do a couple of audits of the planted trees to make sure the survival rate of planted trees is sufficient.
Where this port marsden??new zealand??
North America.
Astoria, Oregon USA
More interesting would be how do they unload these logs.
Sorry, I had no time to record, I have only a picture:
drive.google.com/file/d/1tOJwSZ6G4VMjGqw_czSRp0oBZdDLBd4_/view
Lashing cargo after departure.... EPIC FAIL!
Lashing has been done before departure but those nylon lashings give way and have to be retightened. Before we used steel chains, tightened by crane which never got slack but this new cheaper nylon lashings give way. Later in a storm the lashings got slack and when the ship started rolling the big pile of logs started to roll from one side to the other and banged to the stanchions which would have been broken if we not immediately would have changed course to head right into the storm to stop the rolling. Later when the storm became less the crew had to go out and tighten the lashings again. I put the link to my other videos in the description above.
@@Wolfgang227 thanks for your comments and explanations...for me an PSC Officer this videos are a source of inspiration ! Thanks for your good work
Top secret like Switzerland
THATS A LOT OF TREES ...RIP MOTHER EARTH
Those pine or fir trees grow relatively fast. There are more such ports up- and down-streams. Every week a ship fully loaded with logs leave this port. There are continuously ships on the way to Japan, Korea and China to supply logs. There was a ship ahead of us who lost part of his logs into the Pacific (see link below).
I was already on ships 30 years ago and carried logs from West Africa to Europe and Mindanao Philippines, but those was high-grade wood, Mahogany and similar. We called it iron-wood because it sank, it did not float in the water and those trees were big, around 3 meters in diameter and those trees need many hundreds if not thousand year to grow (see link below). Those trees should not have been cut down, similar to the Mammut trees in the USA.
photos.app.goo.gl/ThzyS3spyZmNN4M56
photos.app.goo.gl/4RwUngQDirVjvEGRA
RIP MOTHER NATURE
What is route of timber?
It is going to China, Korea and Japan.
@@Wolfgang227 and from?
@@alexsulzhits4247 Portland, USA
@@Wolfgang227 how many days is trip?
@@alexsulzhits4247 Depend on the weather and wich country, about 7 to 10 days.
If you look my video, you see us on the way: th-cam.com/video/fcbGVI1ClAM/w-d-xo.html
that is a lot of trees!
about 32,000, almost every week one ship is loaded, that is in a year over 1 Million trees.