you the best man... new subscriber here... disabled with wheelchair as well... you did the same thing i do when i fall - look around make sure nobody watching... lmao.
Before assembly, a light coating of Talcum Powder inside a dry tire or dusting the tube with powder will prevent the tube from binding against the inside of the tire or the rim. It will also prevent a tube from creeping inside the wheel and damaging a valve stem if you are running low on air. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Awesome Video, thanks for leaving the fall, glad you didn't get hurt. We are not perfect and showing mishaps makes you even more relatable. I'm thinking of upgrading my mom's power chair to make it better in different terrains. Your videos inspire confidence. I'm handy with tools, but I've only worked on cars, you make a BIG difference and impact the lives of others. Keep doing what you do. Gracias
Try some talcum powder ( baby powder) on the inside of the tire and on the tube. It stops the tube from sticking to the tire when it heats up. The tube sticking to the tire can cause a flat if the tire slips. The tube can pinch or get a hole in it. I’ve been doing that with tires since my dad taught me when I was a kid To keep the tube from sticking to the tire. Back then we vulcanized patches on (started the glue on fire then blew it out, slapped a patch on and ran a roller over it.) putting baby powder on a patch prevents it from pulling the patch off from sticking.
Man I love how the steam punk chair looks. At least you have more tread on your tires now, but you definitely learned a good piece of advice when test driving it and that is don’t be dumb especially with F3 motors on a C 500 23:26 that moment when you realize you’ve created a monster of a wheelchair.
Thank you for the great video! We followed your instructions to the letter with my old worn out wheelchair and I now have an outdoor hunting chair that should last me years. I'd put a picture on here but I'm not sure how. Keep doing what you're doing, brother!
Hey Dan. Do't know if you have tried it, but I have reused solid inserts in new tires by cutting them on a bias so that they can be inserted back into new tires. I first cut them out by cutting the tire in half along the tread; avoiding cutting into the solid insert.
@@TotallyNormal- hey ,I like your videos, you know if its possible to change a rear wheel drive chair to a front wheel drive chair? want to convert my Quantum Rival. any info would be nice.
29:58 Instead of cutting, I used a heat gun to flex the fenders up. Worked great, kept the fenders and didn't have to cut anything. I have a M300, but it should work on any other plastics as well.
Any idea of other wheelchair models you could do this with? Trying to revamp an electric wheelchair because I miss nature. As many models you can think of that could be modified off road please!
I have a Magic Mobility Frontier V6 AT (Version 6/All-Terrain) with inflated All-Terrain tires. One thing I had to know how to do and have the tools and spare tires/wheels somehow nearby. My tools are in the backpack behind my chair and the spare tires/wheels are ALWAYS in the back of my van. That way as long as the van is with me I have a relatively easy way to deal with a flat. It does mean switching to the gray hard tires but I'm good with that. Of course, none of this works if I take the bus, which I haven't needed to do much since getting my mobility van. Without question the inflated tires are an AMAZING ride!
Love the video! I have a Permobil F3, tires are a bit hard, when I go over cracks, bumps and the like, suffering from Spinal Stenosis, one of my troubles, the shock goes right to my lower Back, Outch! The pain can be quite debilitating. Having pneumatic ⚙⚙ tires is a must! I was getting ready to order factory pneumatic ⚙⚙ tires, I'm glad I watch your video first! Thanks 👍✝️🙏
Thank you for all your videos. I dont know much about these chairs and trying to help out a fellow vet to be able to be more independent again. We have a lot of sand so he gets stuck a lot. Seeing what I can do with a donated jazzy
This video is how I found you. A couple of years ago I bought my first lawn tractor, a couple of months ago I got my first pronto power wheelchair. I can't believe how unstable and bumpy the ride is in my yard. Something I never noticed walking behind my push lawnmower. It seems off road/sidewalk power chairs need a much wider, and longer base, and not so darn heavy. Have you ever made such a chassis? That is what I want to do. Why do you have so many power chairs? Thanks, Mike
Will this work on a f3 chair. Have been wanting to do this for my wife's chair. We enjoy offloading and overlanding...camping etc. Been stuck a few times. Thanks for the info!!! Very cool!!!!!!
Awesome! I actually filmed another 15 minutes of video playing around with that exact thing! ...this was getting pretty long though so I cut that bit out... Good to know it actually works!
when you said to keep an eye out for this c300 tire mod, that i might want to try it on my c300 since i am running with no plastics already... OH YEAH! thank you so much for the video/info. going to do it for sure. i even have an extra set of rims to mount them on. having the mod only add 1 inch to the chairs width is great! i am off to ebay! thanks again! [ps. lol...loved that you included your 'crash'...got to love soft forgiving grass.]
WOW...Thats a real Money Saver. The best price I've seen on the quantum turf tires was about $400 a pair. Assuming that the stock tires you removed are 3x8 inch, the Honda tires should fit on most wheelchair rims. Correct? It's nice that the reverse-rim trick worked out for you. I suppose the fancier (the more ornate) your rims are, the more difficult it becomes to reverse mount them. Thanks again Dan. Very nice demonstration. Good safety training clip too. lol
FYI - if you want to keep the plastics on the chair, you can just use some poly spacers (or similar) to space up the front part of the top cover, and it'll clear the tires nicely - not sure why, but i cut that part out of the video when editing :^)
Remember you're changing the leverage by putting bigger tires on it it's basically putting it in a higher gear you will get a faster speed unless hill climbing ability or it will just use more torque when under a load but it's gearing it higher the higher the tire the higher the gear without changing gears you can think of it as if you had a little tire would go really slow
Have them spray expanding foam between the rafters about 5.5 inches or more and it will stop that heat big time. When it gets to 92 outside here in Texas my attic is about 84 to 86. This unloads the AC units big time.
noooo! stay away from the expanding foam...FAR AWAY! besides being a pain in the butt if you need to access something entombed in the foam, if the person installing the foam doesn't do it correctly your home is ruined. even when done correctly many people are having issues with the off gassing. to avoid having your house and everything you own smell like a fish market best to use regular forms of insulation. since you have respiratory issues it's even more vital to avoid products with off gassing issues. R-value is the biggest thing to consider when working with insulation. i am sure you know that already. I have seen almost all your videos and it's fairly obvious you know your way around a toolbox and done enough wrenching to even know what size your muffler bearings are in your van.
Another Great idea is to install a 3M gable vent fan. Gives about 2200 CFM for $200 of parts (Fan, thermostat, louvered vent that opens/ closes automatically). It works really well if you have an attic door. It pulls all of the heat rite out of the house at night. Check places like home depot or lowes.
I think we’re gonna go with radiant barrier - it attaches super quick and REALLY cuts down the heat! Thanks for the suggestions everyone! - oh and a powered vent fan. There’s a perfect spot for a vertical blower with automatic louvers :-)
@@TotallyNormal- Oh, just an obvious reminder: Some people are against using an auto-on thermostat for the fan. If you had a house fire, the fan would turn on and actually accelerate the fire/ feed the fire. However, you being an ingenious inventor, maybe you could wire it into your smoke alarm to disable ???
Just a suggestion. When inflating the tires after assembly remove the valve core and inflate the tire. It will seat better. Also, a adding straight valve core to the valve core tool makes it easier to handle/use. Please explain the significance of the 120 AMP controller. Also, what are the wattages of the motors and the F3's superiority ?
the R-net 120 amp controller is the most powerful version they make - and allows for surge currents to more easily move the chair (and larger tires) around. it also has more 'electrical headroom' and better cooling. the original motors that came on the permobil C300 chairs have a lot less power handling (torque) capabilities - the newer motors (while a bit faster) are also a LOT more efficient. the wattage of the motors is somewhat irrelevant, as the whole system uses a PWM drive scheme - but the 2 pole F-series motors they have EXCELLENT torque! -they hold their own against most 4 pole motors of other brands! they DO require the 120 amp controller to operate at full power though. putting larger, wider tires on a chair can really tax the drive system - and you want as much available power as possible to keep things from overheating, and run more smoothly. (less stalling of motors from overloading)
Interesting. The wheelchair I just got works well offroad, has decent traction. I took it on the lawn. and OMG, our sidewalks here which are like offroad. Uneven concrfete blocks with weeds growing out between. It works on these sidewalks, but because most of the curbs at intersections here aren't acessible, I luckily could stand for a moment to move the chair. it only weighs 58 lbs. I have RA, so just a moment on foot is OK, can usually get by without pain, takes a bit longer than that before the pain comes. I don't drive, so this will give me some freedom. I avoided what medicare can get for me, because not being able to drive, and the shape of our sidewalks it wouldn't have given me any freedon. More likely would have just gotten me stuck someplace. I was lucky to get some cash my way to pick something that suited my situation.
Sadly, I kinda thought you might take a tumble. Have you thought about getting an all terrain stair climbing wheel chair - that might be the answer to your issues with comfort, etc.
i'm having a heck of a time with my invacare m91 lights don't come on any more. what happened was i was pushing something with my chair i guess it was too much for it. i was wondering if there were any fuses that i could change out. i have already taken the chair apart today but i need a special screw driver to remove the screws on the controller . i'm hoping there is a fuse located there.
does the chair power up at all? most invacare chairs have fuses integrated directly into the battery cables themselves.. sometimes bolted directly to battery terminals
@@TotallyNormal- I checked for fuses on the battery cables but there don't appear to be any. No it doesn't power up at all. I was pushing a stuck lawn mower while sitting on the chair . The light on the joy stick turned off and never turned back on. I think i forced it too much
They don’t always look like fuses.. they have a couple versions.. one is a square block that screws right onto battery terminals.. (red or brown screw-on plastic nuts) and the other is buried under heat shrink on the cables.. (about same diameter as the cable) Just to verify- it’s good to check cables with a voltmeter.. seems odd but I’ve had it happen before and confused me for a week! (also the cable connectors can flash and soot can keep them from making a connection even though they’re plugged in) some chairs the cables themselves are a giant fusible link.. I’ve got photos on the website inside the controllers.. I don’t remember right off if there are any internal fuses. That chair should have a “shark” (mk5) equivalent controller
@@TotallyNormal- hey that's what it was as an in line fuse . I luckily have a few broken chairs around and was able to steal a fuse frim one of them. I did know about thos fuses at one point but it never dawned on me this time. Thanks for your help in back in business. Hey i make tshirts I'll design and make one for you if u like . Or even a baseball cap to have a more detailed design. Hey maybe we can make some for you to sell just a thought . And thanks again.
How bad do these hold dirt? My stock tires seem to really hold alot with the fine tread pattern, I was considering the stud tires or these to get more floatation but was hoping the bigger tread voids would let the dirt fall out easier instead of just holding a bigger amount of dirt lol.
@@TotallyNormal- no not really anything like that. Just dirt like under maple trees or from driving through stone or slate parking lot, if it's a little bit wet the fine dirt really sticks in my treads on the stock tires, they're just the standard grey flat free power chair tires most have.
Nice video. I'm sorry you tipped over, but glad you were not seriously hurt. An author friend once told me there is no such thing as a bad experience, just material for the next book. In your case, the next video. What are your thoughts about doing the same modification to a stock M300? Can you post your source for the OEM Honda tires? I would have thought the extra width of the offset and tires would have made the chair more stable.
I'm not a wheelchair user, but I picked up one of these c300's on craigslist, it needed quite a bit of work, and new batteries. Once I got it all working again, I managed to dump my chair just like you did... I was wondering if I was just being an idiot (... ehem, I would NEVER do that.... :P ) - or if it was really that bad... lol I like this off-road tire mod, I'll probably do that to my chair as well.
Being a plastic I would try heating it with a heat gun somewhere just to test ! if it bends with heat , I'm sure you could bend it enough to clean tires
Would it be more conducive of me to try and find a better wheel tire for my jazzy E3? It’s struggles in the grass and was wondering if there was anything I could use that was more aggressive than what’s on there. Haven’t seen anything as far as factory replacements go. Was wondering if anyone knew of a replacement that works well. Thanks for any help.😇👍🏻
i cut that part out of the video for some reason.. but yes, spacers would work just fine. however this particular chair didnt have any plastics on it anyways :^)
Hey is this possible on an m300? Also would you lnow of any caster replacement options that would work to help increase the capabilities of that chair?
the wheels are different on the newer chairs, getting the offset so the tires won't interfere may take a bit of work.. ya cant just flip the wheels around unfortunately. also the fenders etc will needs some modification
I have a quick question bud. I have a jazzy 1450 D Its extremely heavy. Both batterys are totally dead. What types of batteries can I run. And who or where do I get em. Since you are the Guru master powerchair sensei . How to fix this myself. I bought it in So Cal
looks like most of those chairs use the NF22 (or group 22) size batteries.. ya can usually get a pair of them on amazon or local vendors for a decent price.. i always recommend MK brand batteries.. they have the longest service life! but they do cost a bit more..
Hey sir! Just discovered your channel and I'm loving it! So many great ideas fory daughter's power chair! Quick question that I can't find the answer to anywhere. I need to remove the rear accessory tray that came mounted on her C300, but in order to access the bolts holding it on, I need to move (lower?) the 'suspension arms' for the rear castor wheels out of the way. Can I simply jack up the back of the chair and disconnect each arm from its 'spring/shock assembly' to let it drop down a few inches? Sorry for the made up part names... Haven't looked up any official nomenclature! 😄
hey! yup! thats the easiest way to do it.. just pop the shock bolts off.. its best to remove the lower bolts that are physically attached to the swing arms.. the top ones are mounted to a rod that goes all the way thru the chair, and it will rotate - making it difficult to remove the bolts/screws. for using a jack, just make sure its far enough under the chair so you're not lifting or touching any part of the back plastic cover (assuming ya haven't removed it already)
Hey man, have you considered putting different casters on the back, maybe a touch wider? I just got a brand new chair from the VA and I’ve been hoping to modify my old C300 into something a bit more able to cross country in. I want to try fishing or hunting in. I want to build outriggers of some sort as anti tip laterally. Ummm, is that a tactical vest back there on the shelf behind you?
been looking for some air-filled replacement castors for the back.. ya cant go too much wider because they'll start fluttering around quite a bit - but air filled tires are a little bit wider and less weight.. should de the trick!
That's a neat conversion Dan! I have MOT131092-06 & MOT131093-06 motors in my Quantum Q6 Edge. Are those the only motors that will work on this chair? I also have the original MK M22NF SLD G, 12 Volt - 51 Ah, Deep Cycle, Gel Batteries and they are only holding charge half as long as they used to so I will need to replace them. Are there any better batteries I can use for this wheelchair?
Hello Sir, I have a Invacare Pronto M41 and it squeaks like crazy. I think it’s the foam filled tires squeaking. Can you give me any pointers on how to quiet them down? Thanks!!
As I'm going forward in my wheelchair from the left and the right motor which way is the motor turning? Are they turning the same or they turning opposite from each other? Because I accidentally bought a right motor when I need a left side motor. And I was told you had to program those motor to the controller when you replace a motor, but I'm not sure if I have to reprogram the controller to the motor. By the way, I was born disabled with spina bifida and lost my right leg back in 2014 and in 2020 I lost my left leg above-the-knee. I'm sitting on my right leg, but I have artificial light for the left side if only I would learn to put it on when my wheelchair quit on me and throw me out of the chair when I can get back up with my artificial left leg 🤣 👉🍗 my wheelchair is a TDX SP2
electric motors dont care which way they're turning - but on most chairs, the left and right aren't interchangeable - as in the left motors wont be able to mount up to the right side. its also best to replace motors as a pair - since they have to work together and one with a lot more/less use on it may not allow the chair to track straight
Hey man how's it going. Can you suggest a good wheelchair with longer range. Because quantum edge HD range on that company says 25 km but i get only 4 kms . When I put new batteries for few months it's little better than that but after a few months the batteries get messed up I end up paying a lot to get the new pair off the batteries. Can you suggest best brand and model of wheelchair. Thanks
most of the permobil chairs ive had get anywhere from 9 - 14 miles on a charge.. and that's ACTUAL miles on the street! if ya get a chair with group 34 batteries.. roughly 8-10 miles.. and if you get one with group 24 batteries.. usually 12-14 miles depending on 'things' lol a number of the quantum chairs have NF22 batteries in them and those are SMALL!! ive got a Q6 edge 1 and it goes DEAD after 3.4 miles!! AmySystems is another good brand too - ya can get them with large batteries and hit the 12 mile mark pretty easily
..ya have to search for them - they change constantly. just look for tubes that fit 3.5-8" tires and make sure they have right angle valve stems. (they fit "honda mini trail 50" bikes) ive updated the links a few times in the video description as they expire - but "part numbers" are irrelevant since there's dozens of manufacturers that constantly change everything. that's the nature of ebay unfortunately! :^/
Hey bud, in that episode where you put these Permobil Flat Free Tire 3"W x 14"T Black - Aggressive Tread on that F3, was it worth it? We get a lot of snow here, and my ramp is 30ft long and slightly steeper than code 1in to 12in my C300 does great; I tried the F3, and the ramp got wet from the rain. It's treated wood with a little alga, and I couldn't go a foot heading back up, so the rep figured the front suspension was cranked all the way tight, and it was, so he softened it, then hosed down the ramp, and he couldn't stop me from going up by pushing me from the front the tires wouldn't spin I just pushed him, but before we got to do that, a friend cleaned my deck with cleaner and power washed it. Another thing, do you think the gray tires have the same compound as the black in the stock tires because the C300 are gray and the F3 are black? They claim they're the same, just different colors. And it's not winter yet; thanks again for the great videos.
just spoke to someone that put these tires on his edge 2 (they should be the same as the edge 3) just needed to add 3 washers as spacers on each wheel stud, and everything bolted right back up!
How did the ride at your friends house go? In the beginning of the video it looked like you were doing some night cruising. Did you inflate tires more? Think its a good mod for a camping chair?
I’m looking to purchase some 22 NF batteries for a back up power chair are there any good online places to purchase batteries? Also is it good to keep the chair plugged in all the time or not for the battery health?
allegro medical has some decent prices sometimes... as far as keeping them maintained, its "best" to charge them up, then disconnect them from the chair - or turn of the main circuit breaker if it has one. otherwise plug it in once every 2 weeks overnight to keep them maintained. leaving them plugged in ALL the time will cause issues/shorten the batteries life.
re 29:50 Instead of cutting the mud guards off; why not just put some spacers on the bolts that attach the fairing to the chairs body, to lift the mudguards a centimeter or two.
Hello, what do you think about Frog legs front castor forks? I have folding electric wheelchair (D 09 by JBH Wheelchair) with solid front castors and ride is way to stiff. Thank you.
ive got an old quickie S626 power chair - and it has frog-legs on the front of it... lemme tell ya - it can be DANGEROUS! that chair has a really high center of gravity and a short wheelbase.. if ya hit a sidewalk ramp going too fast, it can flip ya right over!! usually an "easy" way to improve ride quality is fitting some air filled tires on the chair.. obviously then ya have to worry about flats etc.. but ya should be able to find air filled drive tires and castor wheels. that usually improves the ride quality pretty significantly :^)
Take care of yourself, I am from Saudi Arabia, I love you and I have a handicap and the use of an electric chair, but it differs from you. thank you very much
Hey, are you still running this channel? I have an invacare tdx sp2 6 wheel power chair. It's a good chair but a little slow. Do you know how I can increase the speed just a few mph would be nice.
most of the SP2 models use Dynamix LiNX electronics - they require a programming dongle to make any changes, unlike the older systems invacare used, which only required an SD card and a computer
Yes you can install these on the Permobil F3, however you would have to take off your front fenders completely in order for them to fit and not rub on anything :)
not sure... this mod was specifically for older front wheel drive permobil chairs, and everything just happened to work with the wheel spacing, and being able to flip the wheel around etc.. most power chairs use similar size wheels (rims) so it might be possible with spacers... havent seen a trident in person though
hey question . i have a m300 with a vent and battery in back . i been hooked on getting a f5 to even out the weight and because I drive with a chin joystick and they say it's a smoother ride. after watching you ummm gracefully fall lol , do the f5 have that issue ? i ask because the c300 is the older f series
the way the rovi is setup, im pretty sure larger tires would give the suspension a hard time... 6 wheeled chairs are a bit tricky to use off road - front castor wheels tend to get buried fairly easily!
you the best man... new subscriber here... disabled with wheelchair as well... you did the same thing i do when i fall - look around make sure nobody watching... lmao.
Before assembly, a light coating of Talcum Powder inside a dry tire or dusting the tube with powder will prevent the tube from binding against the inside of the tire or the rim. It will also prevent a tube from creeping inside the wheel and damaging a valve stem if you are running low on air. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Awesome Video, thanks for leaving the fall, glad you didn't get hurt. We are not perfect and showing mishaps makes you even more relatable. I'm thinking of upgrading my mom's power chair to make it better in different terrains. Your videos inspire confidence. I'm handy with tools, but I've only worked on cars, you make a BIG difference and impact the lives of others. Keep doing what you do. Gracias
You could also put nylon spacers under the front of the plastics to raise them and clear the tires without cutting them.
im realizing now i should have left that part in the video LOL for some reason i decided it was getting too long ;^)
Try some talcum powder ( baby powder) on the inside of the tire and on the tube. It stops the tube from sticking to the tire when it heats up. The tube sticking to the tire can cause a flat if the tire slips. The tube can pinch or get a hole in it. I’ve been doing that with tires since my dad taught me when I was a kid To keep the tube from sticking to the tire. Back then we vulcanized patches on (started the glue on fire then blew it out, slapped a patch on and ran a roller over it.) putting baby powder on a patch prevents it from pulling the patch off from sticking.
Man I love how the steam punk chair looks. At least you have more tread on your tires now, but you definitely learned a good piece of advice when test driving it and that is don’t be dumb especially with F3 motors on a C 500
23:26 that moment when you realize you’ve created a monster of a wheelchair.
Thank you for the great video! We followed your instructions to the letter with my old worn out wheelchair and I now have an outdoor hunting chair that should last me years. I'd put a picture on here but I'm not sure how. Keep doing what you're doing, brother!
awesome!! glad it worked for ya!
Hey Dan. Do't know if you have tried it, but I have reused solid inserts in new tires by cutting them on a bias so that they can be inserted back into new tires. I first cut them out by cutting the tire in half along the tread; avoiding cutting into the solid insert.
I never would have thought of that!! Glad I haven’t thrown any of them out yet!!! Nice!
@@TotallyNormal- hey ,I like your videos, you know if its possible to change a rear wheel drive chair to a front wheel drive chair? want to convert my Quantum Rival. any info would be nice.
@@TotallyNormal- That would make a GREAT video. I tried that before and broke the foam core trying to install it.
29:58 Instead of cutting, I used a heat gun to flex the fenders up. Worked great, kept the fenders and didn't have to cut anything. I have a M300, but it should work on any other plastics as well.
Any idea of other wheelchair models you could do this with? Trying to revamp an electric wheelchair because I miss nature. As many models you can think of that could be modified off road please!
I have a Magic Mobility Frontier V6 AT (Version 6/All-Terrain) with inflated All-Terrain tires. One thing I had to know how to do and have the tools and spare tires/wheels somehow nearby. My tools are in the backpack behind my chair and the spare tires/wheels are ALWAYS in the back of my van. That way as long as the van is with me I have a relatively easy way to deal with a flat. It does mean switching to the gray hard tires but I'm good with that. Of course, none of this works if I take the bus, which I haven't needed to do much since getting my mobility van.
Without question the inflated tires are an AMAZING ride!
That is a very cool mod! And under $100. That is very cool. I am glad you are ok after that fall.
Thank you. Great video.
Love the video! I have a Permobil F3, tires are a bit hard, when I go over cracks, bumps and the like, suffering from Spinal Stenosis, one of my troubles, the shock goes right to my lower Back, Outch! The pain can be quite debilitating. Having pneumatic ⚙⚙ tires is a must! I was getting ready to order factory pneumatic ⚙⚙ tires, I'm glad I watch your video first!
Thanks 👍✝️🙏
ive got a video for ya!!! adjusting the suspension isnt very hard at all!
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Great video. Thank you for sharing this. It is now on my to do list.
Thank you for all your videos. I dont know much about these chairs and trying to help out a fellow vet to be able to be more independent again. We have a lot of sand so he gets stuck a lot. Seeing what I can do with a donated jazzy
Need to be careful dude I don’t want you to get hurt I enjoy your videos!
This video is how I found you. A couple of years ago I bought my first lawn tractor, a couple of months ago I got my first pronto power wheelchair. I can't believe how unstable and bumpy the ride is in my yard. Something I never noticed walking behind my push lawnmower. It seems off road/sidewalk power chairs need a much wider, and longer base, and not so darn heavy. Have you ever made such a chassis? That is what I want to do. Why do you have so many power chairs?
Thanks,
Mike
"Crazy drunk driver" 😆 j/k. Gotta lean into the turns. 😆 I haven't tipped over yet (Knock on wood) but I've come close goin down my driveway.
I put the same tires on my chair and it was a game changer! The skinny back wheels are horrible about crossing up and getting me stuck
Gracias buena idea para cambiarlo a todo terreno genial.
Will this work on a f3 chair. Have been wanting to do this for my wife's chair. We enjoy offloading and overlanding...camping etc. Been stuck a few times. Thanks for the info!!! Very cool!!!!!!
Yes they will work on an F3 the fenders actually unbolt and I just stuck two washers behind the wheel to space it out
@@quadfarmer4121 thanks so much!!
i have used the same tyres on a permobil street and with that you can keep the stock plastics you just need a few washers as spacers
Awesome! I actually filmed another 15 minutes of video playing around with that exact thing! ...this was getting pretty long though so I cut that bit out... Good to know it actually works!
when you said to keep an eye out for this c300 tire mod, that i might want to try it on my c300 since i am running with no plastics already... OH YEAH! thank you so much for the video/info. going to do it for sure. i even have an extra set of rims to mount them on. having the mod only add 1 inch to the chairs width is great! i am off to ebay! thanks again! [ps. lol...loved that you included your 'crash'...got to love soft forgiving grass.]
Just a hint use foot power to lube the tube and tire to aid tire and tube assembly.
Maybe put some shims under those covers ??? I mounted a fan upstairs with a timmer downstairs, it sure made the differance.
WOW...Thats a real Money Saver. The best price I've seen on the quantum turf tires was about $400 a pair.
Assuming that the stock tires you removed are 3x8 inch, the Honda tires should fit on most wheelchair rims. Correct?
It's nice that the reverse-rim trick worked out for you. I suppose the fancier (the more ornate) your rims are, the more difficult it becomes to reverse mount them. Thanks again Dan. Very nice demonstration. Good safety training clip too. lol
Definitely doing that soon!
I have one of the magnetic pickup tools like that and use it all the time. I have one in my wheelchair bag and use it on a daily basis.
FYI - if you want to keep the plastics on the chair, you can just use some poly spacers (or similar) to space up the front part of the top cover, and it'll clear the tires nicely - not sure why, but i cut that part out of the video when editing :^)
Remember you're changing the leverage by putting bigger tires on it it's basically putting it in a higher gear you will get a faster speed unless hill climbing ability or it will just use more torque when under a load but it's gearing it higher the higher the tire the higher the gear without changing gears you can think of it as if you had a little tire would go really slow
Have them spray expanding foam between the rafters about 5.5 inches or more and it will stop that heat big time.
When it gets to 92 outside here in Texas my attic is about 84 to 86. This unloads the AC units big time.
I am referring to the attic heat.
noooo! stay away from the expanding foam...FAR AWAY! besides being a pain in the butt if you need to access something entombed in the foam, if the person installing the foam doesn't do it correctly your home is ruined. even when done correctly many people are having issues with the off gassing. to avoid having your house and everything you own smell like a fish market best to use regular forms of insulation. since you have respiratory issues it's even more vital to avoid products with off gassing issues. R-value is the biggest thing to consider when working with insulation. i am sure you know that already. I have seen almost all your videos and it's fairly obvious you know your way around a toolbox and done enough wrenching to even know what size your muffler bearings are in your van.
Another Great idea is to install a 3M gable vent fan. Gives about 2200 CFM for $200 of parts (Fan, thermostat, louvered vent that opens/ closes automatically). It works really well if you have an attic door. It pulls all of the heat rite out of the house at night. Check places like home depot or lowes.
I think we’re gonna go with radiant barrier - it attaches super quick and REALLY cuts down the heat! Thanks for the suggestions everyone! - oh and a powered vent fan. There’s a perfect spot for a vertical blower with automatic louvers :-)
@@TotallyNormal- Oh, just an obvious reminder: Some people are against using an auto-on thermostat for the fan. If you had a house fire, the fan would turn on and actually accelerate the fire/ feed the fire.
However, you being an ingenious inventor, maybe you could wire it into your smoke alarm to disable ???
Use baby powder inside the wheel and it will help with seating the inner tube and Tire when you inflate. It also helps with avoiding flat tires.
Kool wipe ou glad you did not get hurt😸w
Have you done any rear wheel drive chairs
You are so independent I love it
Just a suggestion. When inflating the tires after assembly remove the valve core and inflate the tire. It will seat better. Also, a adding straight valve core to the valve core tool makes it easier to handle/use. Please explain the significance of the 120 AMP controller. Also, what are the wattages of the motors and the F3's superiority ?
the R-net 120 amp controller is the most powerful version they make - and allows for surge currents to more easily move the chair (and larger tires) around. it also has more 'electrical headroom' and better cooling. the original motors that came on the permobil C300 chairs have a lot less power handling (torque) capabilities - the newer motors (while a bit faster) are also a LOT more efficient. the wattage of the motors is somewhat irrelevant, as the whole system uses a PWM drive scheme - but the 2 pole F-series motors they have EXCELLENT torque! -they hold their own against most 4 pole motors of other brands! they DO require the 120 amp controller to operate at full power though.
putting larger, wider tires on a chair can really tax the drive system - and you want as much available power as possible to keep things from overheating, and run more smoothly. (less stalling of motors from overloading)
Is there any plans to a video on modifying a newer M5 Corpus for more outdoor use?
a friend put the tires on his F3 and it didnt take any modification at all! (well other than the plastics) im gonna have to try it! :^)
Interesting. The wheelchair I just got works well offroad, has decent traction. I took it on the lawn. and OMG, our sidewalks here which are like offroad. Uneven concrfete blocks with weeds growing out between. It works on these sidewalks, but because most of the curbs at intersections here aren't acessible, I luckily could stand for a moment to move the chair. it only weighs 58 lbs. I have RA, so just a moment on foot is OK, can usually get by without pain, takes a bit longer than that before the pain comes. I don't drive, so this will give me some freedom. I avoided what medicare can get for me, because not being able to drive, and the shape of our sidewalks it wouldn't have given me any freedon. More likely would have just gotten me stuck someplace. I was lucky to get some cash my way to pick something that suited my situation.
Thx Dan, I think those would fit on my Rovi X3.... I've been wanting to go with pneumatic tires and these may fit the bill....
Smooth move
Sadly, I kinda thought you might take a tumble. Have you thought about getting an all terrain stair climbing wheel chair - that might be the answer to your issues with comfort, etc.
Valve stem caps are important.
Dan can you see if the hub adapter will fit the output shaft on a Jazzy that has only a keyed output shaft.
You can swap the complete arms of the caster wheels. So the wheels are positioned more outward, which improves stability a bit.
i'm having a heck of a time with my invacare m91 lights don't come on any more. what happened was i was pushing something with my chair i guess it was too much for it. i was wondering if there were any fuses that i could change out. i have already taken the chair apart today but i need a special screw driver to remove the screws on the controller . i'm hoping there is a fuse located there.
does the chair power up at all? most invacare chairs have fuses integrated directly into the battery cables themselves.. sometimes bolted directly to battery terminals
@@TotallyNormal- I checked for fuses on the battery cables but there don't appear to be any. No it doesn't power up at all. I was pushing a stuck lawn mower while sitting on the chair . The light on the joy stick turned off and never turned back on. I think i forced it too much
They don’t always look like fuses.. they have a couple versions.. one is a square block that screws right onto battery terminals.. (red or brown screw-on plastic nuts) and the other is buried under heat shrink on the cables.. (about same diameter as the cable)
Just to verify- it’s good to check cables with a voltmeter..
seems odd but I’ve had it happen before and confused me for a week! (also the cable connectors can flash and soot can keep them from making a connection even though they’re plugged in) some chairs the cables themselves are a giant fusible link..
I’ve got photos on the website inside the controllers.. I don’t remember right off if there are any internal fuses.
That chair should have a “shark” (mk5) equivalent controller
@@TotallyNormal- hey that's what it was as an in line fuse . I luckily have a few broken chairs around and was able to steal a fuse frim one of them. I did know about thos fuses at one point but it never dawned on me this time. Thanks for your help in back in business. Hey i make tshirts I'll design and make one for you if u like . Or even a baseball cap to have a more detailed design. Hey maybe we can make some for you to sell just a thought . And thanks again.
I have a jazzy 600 how do I make it go faster you got some great videos out there
I meed to start looking for spare chairs so I can test fit some mods.
The chair I use daily is so wide has to be a double door to fit
How bad do these hold dirt? My stock tires seem to really hold alot with the fine tread pattern, I was considering the stud tires or these to get more floatation but was hoping the bigger tread voids would let the dirt fall out easier instead of just holding a bigger amount of dirt lol.
unless you're running around in wet clay, it's not an issue :^)
@@TotallyNormal- no not really anything like that. Just dirt like under maple trees or from driving through stone or slate parking lot, if it's a little bit wet the fine dirt really sticks in my treads on the stock tires, they're just the standard grey flat free power chair tires most have.
I usually put some baby powder on the then it makes it slip around easy and seat
Nice video. I'm sorry you tipped over, but glad you were not seriously hurt. An author friend once told me there is no such thing as a bad experience, just material for the next book. In your case, the next video. What are your thoughts about doing the same modification to a stock M300? Can you post your source for the OEM Honda tires? I would have thought the extra width of the offset and tires would have made the chair more stable.
Exactly! At least people know now to be careful!! Hah! there’s a link in description for the tires/tubes
I'm not a wheelchair user, but I picked up one of these c300's on craigslist, it needed quite a bit of work, and new batteries. Once I got it all working again, I managed to dump my chair just like you did... I was wondering if I was just being an idiot (... ehem, I would NEVER do that.... :P ) - or if it was really that bad... lol I like this off-road tire mod, I'll probably do that to my chair as well.
yea... these old chairs aren't super stable LOL
Being a plastic I would try heating it with a heat gun somewhere just to test ! if it bends with heat , I'm sure you could bend it enough to clean tires
Great brother, I like it.
Would it be more conducive of me to try and find a better wheel tire for my jazzy E3? It’s struggles in the grass and was wondering if there was anything I could use that was more aggressive than what’s on there. Haven’t seen anything as far as factory replacements go. Was wondering if anyone knew of a replacement that works well. Thanks for any help.😇👍🏻
Why would you cut off the fenders? It appears, all that would be necessary would be, to add spacers under the plastic at each bolt down location.
i cut that part out of the video for some reason.. but yes, spacers would work just fine. however this particular chair didnt have any plastics on it anyways :^)
So where did you find the honda tires and tubes to buy?
Hey is this possible on an m300? Also would you lnow of any caster replacement options that would work to help increase the capabilities of that chair?
Just found your Channel. Interesting I have a old C300 for my current chair is an F3 do the off-road tires fit the if3
the wheels are different on the newer chairs, getting the offset so the tires won't interfere may take a bit of work.. ya cant just flip the wheels around unfortunately. also the fenders etc will needs some modification
Love it man.
I have a quick question bud. I have a jazzy 1450 D
Its extremely heavy. Both batterys are totally dead. What types of batteries can I run. And who or where do I get em.
Since you are the Guru master powerchair sensei .
How to fix this myself.
I bought it in So Cal
looks like most of those chairs use the NF22 (or group 22) size batteries.. ya can usually get a pair of them on amazon or local vendors for a decent price.. i always recommend MK brand batteries.. they have the longest service life! but they do cost a bit more..
Dan do you know is the tires from a Magic mobility 4 x 4 will fit on a Permobil C300?
pretty sure the hubs are different.. but the main issue is the offset... though ive never actually tried to bolt them up :^)
Hey sir! Just discovered your channel and I'm loving it! So many great ideas fory daughter's power chair!
Quick question that I can't find the answer to anywhere. I need to remove the rear accessory tray that came mounted on her C300, but in order to access the bolts holding it on, I need to move (lower?) the 'suspension arms' for the rear castor wheels out of the way. Can I simply jack up the back of the chair and disconnect each arm from its 'spring/shock assembly' to let it drop down a few inches? Sorry for the made up part names... Haven't looked up any official nomenclature! 😄
hey! yup! thats the easiest way to do it.. just pop the shock bolts off.. its best to remove the lower bolts that are physically attached to the swing arms.. the top ones are mounted to a rod that goes all the way thru the chair, and it will rotate - making it difficult to remove the bolts/screws. for using a jack, just make sure its far enough under the chair so you're not lifting or touching any part of the back plastic cover (assuming ya haven't removed it already)
@@TotallyNormal- Awesome! Thanks so much for the reply! Appreciate it! Be well, man!
Hey man, have you considered putting different casters on the back, maybe a touch wider? I just got a brand new chair from the VA and I’ve been hoping to modify my old C300 into something a bit more able to cross country in. I want to try fishing or hunting in. I want to build outriggers of some sort as anti tip laterally. Ummm, is that a tactical vest back there on the shelf behind you?
been looking for some air-filled replacement castors for the back.. ya cant go too much wider because they'll start fluttering around quite a bit - but air filled tires are a little bit wider and less weight.. should de the trick!
That's a neat conversion Dan!
I have MOT131092-06 & MOT131093-06 motors in my Quantum Q6 Edge.
Are those the only motors that will work on this chair?
I also have the original MK M22NF SLD G, 12 Volt - 51 Ah, Deep Cycle, Gel Batteries and they are only holding charge half as long as they used to so I will need to replace them.
Are there any better batteries I can use for this wheelchair?
That's cool. I hope you take it on a long ride to see how it feels. Maybe in a live stream show? Would that work on a Permo Mid Wheel?
I think the extra height of the tires might screw with the suspension a bit on a mid wheel.. but I might have to try it out!
Where did you get the Honda tires and tubes?
check the video description
Are you in Portland Oregon?
Mi respect for this champ
I use the magnetic all the time
Do you think this would work at all with an f3? I been trying to get some offroad tires for my brother but everythin is 4 lug
Can the brushes be adjusted on a c300
Are there different rims we can use for chairs.and what type of battery would u use. My battery are dead.
But I would like to make my chair faster
mostly any other wheels would require some kinda adapters.. the bolt pattern is unique on these chairs
Hello Sir,
I have a Invacare Pronto M41 and it squeaks like crazy. I think it’s the foam filled tires squeaking. Can you give me any pointers on how to quiet them down? Thanks!!
ah yes.. squeaky tires... the plague of power chairs! someone commented a while back about it.. lemme see if i can find what he did....
@@TotallyNormal- it wasn’t the tires after all. There’s a floating plate in the right brake assembly that was squeaking and rattling.
Cool. Can I assume this will work on a C350 too?
theyll fit on there fine.. just be careful about changing the drive angle of a rear wheel drive chair.. especially when going down big hills!
As I'm going forward in my wheelchair from the left and the right motor which way is the motor turning? Are they turning the same or they turning opposite from each other? Because I accidentally bought a right motor when I need a left side motor. And I was told you had to program those motor to the controller when you replace a motor, but I'm not sure if I have to reprogram the controller to the motor. By the way, I was born disabled with spina bifida and lost my right leg back in 2014 and in 2020 I lost my left leg above-the-knee. I'm sitting on my right leg, but I have artificial light for the left side if only I would learn to put it on when my wheelchair quit on me and throw me out of the chair when I can get back up with my artificial left leg 🤣 👉🍗 my wheelchair is a TDX SP2
electric motors dont care which way they're turning - but on most chairs, the left and right aren't interchangeable - as in the left motors wont be able to mount up to the right side. its also best to replace motors as a pair - since they have to work together and one with a lot more/less use on it may not allow the chair to track straight
is portland safe now
is any major city really *safe*? lol
everyone i know avoids the downtown area though - and many businesses have left
Hey man how's it going.
Can you suggest a good wheelchair with longer range. Because quantum edge HD range on that company says 25 km but i get only 4 kms . When I put new batteries for few months it's little better than that but after a few months the batteries get messed up I end up paying a lot to get the new pair off the batteries. Can you suggest best brand and model of wheelchair. Thanks
most of the permobil chairs ive had get anywhere from 9 - 14 miles on a charge.. and that's ACTUAL miles on the street! if ya get a chair with group 34 batteries.. roughly 8-10 miles.. and if you get one with group 24 batteries.. usually 12-14 miles depending on 'things' lol a number of the quantum chairs have NF22 batteries in them and those are SMALL!! ive got a Q6 edge 1 and it goes DEAD after 3.4 miles!! AmySystems is another good brand too - ya can get them with large batteries and hit the 12 mile mark pretty easily
Hey bud do you have any parts places I can order from. I need to find some custom parts . I have a jazzy 1450 D
Hey Dan, would you post the part, item, model or serial # for the inner tubes for the tires?
..ya have to search for them - they change constantly. just look for tubes that fit 3.5-8" tires and make sure they have right angle valve stems. (they fit "honda mini trail 50" bikes) ive updated the links a few times in the video description as they expire - but "part numbers" are irrelevant since there's dozens of manufacturers that constantly change everything. that's the nature of ebay unfortunately! :^/
complete set on Amazon is $65
Just watching this. To not have to cut the plastic, put some rubber spacers under the plastic on the front.
I was thinking the same.
Hey bud, in that episode where you put these Permobil Flat Free Tire 3"W x 14"T Black - Aggressive Tread on that F3, was it worth it? We get a lot of snow here, and my ramp is 30ft long and slightly steeper than code 1in to 12in my C300 does great; I tried the F3, and the ramp got wet from the rain. It's treated wood with a little alga, and I couldn't go a foot heading back up, so the rep figured the front suspension was cranked all the way tight, and it was, so he softened it, then hosed down the ramp, and he couldn't stop me from going up by pushing me from the front the tires wouldn't spin I just pushed him, but before we got to do that, a friend cleaned my deck with cleaner and power washed it. Another thing, do you think the gray tires have the same compound as the black in the stock tires because the C300 are gray and the F3 are black? They claim they're the same, just different colors. And it's not winter yet; thanks again for the great videos.
I have a Quantum Edge 3. Will that setup work for mine?
just spoke to someone that put these tires on his edge 2 (they should be the same as the edge 3) just needed to add 3 washers as spacers on each wheel stud, and everything bolted right back up!
I love your videos
Your garage looks like a Wheelchair mobility center... Why so many chairs?
this explains it :^) th-cam.com/video/WuMrvwYOmgs/w-d-xo.html
Can The m300 hd use these tires
How did the ride at your friends house go? In the beginning of the video it looked like you were doing some night cruising. Did you inflate tires more? Think its a good mod for a camping chair?
I’m looking to purchase some 22 NF batteries for a back up power chair are there any good online places to purchase batteries? Also is it good to keep the chair plugged in all the time or not for the battery health?
allegro medical has some decent prices sometimes... as far as keeping them maintained, its "best" to charge them up, then disconnect them from the chair - or turn of the main circuit breaker if it has one. otherwise plug it in once every 2 weeks overnight to keep them maintained. leaving them plugged in ALL the time will cause issues/shorten the batteries life.
re 29:50 Instead of cutting the mud guards off; why not just put some spacers on the bolts that attach the fairing to the chairs body, to lift the mudguards a centimeter or two.
i actually cut that out of the video for some reason.. was trying to keep it "shorter" lol but yes! that does work pretty well!
Hello good afternoon!
Hello,
what do you think about Frog legs front castor forks? I have folding electric wheelchair (D 09 by JBH Wheelchair) with solid front castors and ride is way to stiff.
Thank you.
ive got an old quickie S626 power chair - and it has frog-legs on the front of it... lemme tell ya - it can be DANGEROUS! that chair has a really high center of gravity and a short wheelbase.. if ya hit a sidewalk ramp going too fast, it can flip ya right over!! usually an "easy" way to improve ride quality is fitting some air filled tires on the chair.. obviously then ya have to worry about flats etc.. but ya should be able to find air filled drive tires and castor wheels. that usually improves the ride quality pretty significantly :^)
Take care of yourself, I am from Saudi Arabia, I love you and I have a handicap and the use of an electric chair, but it differs from you. thank you very much
Hey, are you still running this channel?
I have an invacare tdx sp2 6 wheel power chair. It's a good chair but a little slow. Do you know how I can increase the speed just a few mph would be nice.
most of the SP2 models use Dynamix LiNX electronics - they require a programming dongle to make any changes, unlike the older systems invacare used, which only required an SD card and a computer
Thanks I appreciate that.
Why does the c500 engine vibrate when the coal runs out?
can you put these tires on permobil f3
let me check with @RyCanDoIt he put them on his chair.. ill reply again :^)
Yes you can install these on the Permobil F3, however you would have to take off your front fenders completely in order for them to fit and not rub on anything :)
@@RyCanDoIt thank you so much for the help
Do you know the tube part number? Or the tube size?
all of the info and links are in the video description :^)
Would this tire option work on my trident by drive?
not sure... this mod was specifically for older front wheel drive permobil chairs, and everything just happened to work with the wheel spacing, and being able to flip the wheel around etc.. most power chairs use similar size wheels (rims) so it might be possible with spacers... havent seen a trident in person though
hey question . i have a m300 with a vent and battery in back . i been hooked on getting a f5 to even out the weight and because I drive with a chin joystick and they say it's a smoother ride. after watching you ummm gracefully fall lol , do the f5 have that issue ? i ask because the c300 is the older f series
No- not at all! They learned from the C300 era! And fixed all the issues! The F5 is one of the most stable chairs out there for sure!
You got any suggestions to turn a rovi x3 into more of an off chair?
the way the rovi is setup, im pretty sure larger tires would give the suspension a hard time... 6 wheeled chairs are a bit tricky to use off road - front castor wheels tend to get buried fairly easily!
Would like 2 get Bigger Motors 4 my Quick and Mobil FALCON it has 2 250watt now ??....any suggestions?