@@LohengrinO as heartbreaking it sounds, at least la Regina didn’t get to go through DECLINE in health terms, and she left with us so much to remember and adore. A true artist of greatness unparalleled in her generation.
A veces es increíble lo poco que se sabe de la técnica y posibilidades de la voz. Mucha gente melomana escribe y dice cualquier cosa. Gruberova tiene una cualidad absolutamente increíble de pureza vocal, sonoridad limpia que es sencillamente apabullante! Más allá de cualquier preferencia. Sus cualidades naturales y técnicas son absolutamente únicas. Y eso lo ha mostrado a lo largo de su carrera (claro, nadie es perfecto, ¿eh?). Pero su FACILIDAD NATURAL Y ADQUIRIDA para el canto es sencillamente distintiva. Y de eso no hay duda alguna.
¡ Totalmente de acuerdo ! La maestra Gruberova tenía facultades naturales increíbles, además de su hermoso timbre ( aspectos que no todas las cantantes tienen, porque hay algunas que poseen habilidades naturales pero una voz horrible, no cito nombres porque no quiero ser linchado ), aunado a eso, el estudio y dedicación contribuyen al desarrollo adecuado de la voz, por eso y otras razones más es la maravillosa diva, reina de la coloratura, patrimonio de la humanidad.
She is stunning here! I've never liked how she approached her low notes though. It's like she yawns them. My favorite recording of Olympia is Joan's early version. Although she doesn't go for CRAZY high notes, her breakneck pacing and mechanical perfection really give the impression of a wind up doll gone manic.
I always give it a shot but for the life of me I can’t get to like Gruberova just as I can’t get to like Nilsson. I can’t endure a full aria from either, no matter how wonderful they may be. And I feel frustrated about it tbh.
Funny you mention nilsson. I was just thinking that despite having such different voices, I think their methods of vocal production are similar. Both give me the impression of singing on the edge of their voice, if that makes any sense. And they both have that cutting edge to their voices. Personally, I love em both though.
I have personally heard Edita's Voice in the Herodous Atticus theater which literally DEVOURS the sound of the singers (Marilyn Horne had stopped singing 1min after recital started and left stage never to return, Angela Gheorghiou was a barely audible whisper, Renee Fleming was as if she never sang...) and Edita's voice was SO BIG that when she turned her head you could hear the Cone of her Sound change direction... 20 mins earlier Barbara Hendricks in the same double recital was being covered by a pigeon that was screaming on the ancient rocks behind her... BIG Voice not to say HUGE for soprano coloratura
@@LohengrinO Edita was never a soprano coloratura. Let’s start there. I’ve read this story of yours many times on your channel. Edita was a a soubrette at best but not a genuine coloratura of the likes of Tetrazzini. And we’ve been so darn deceived by people like Horne and Fleming with absolutely no voices at all to not even sing happy birthday that when somebody can project a bit like Edita with her hollow screams we consider that big singing when in fact the absolute MINIMUM weight and vocal size to sing opera should be Clara Petrella. m.th-cam.com/video/AqWnk0ogkj8/w-d-xo.html If you have a small and even a medium size voice SIMPLY stay DA PHUCK away from opera!!!!!!!! My goodness why is that so hard for “singers”. Why? If fact, Tebaldi considered herself to not have big voice and she stated her voice was good as a lyric soprano. But Tebaldi is a blue whale and Edita would be a microscopic germ in size comparison. Back in the 1950’s lyric sopranos like Petralla, or Eleanor Steber were not considered real primmadonnas cause their voices were simply too light and they were comprimario.
@@beachfanatic2010 even with the regrading of yours Edita's voice was not small as she passed the Herodus Atticus test magificently... (btw Maria could be heard OUTSIDE the theater as people sitting on the rocks outside could hear her)
@@LohengrinO I’m sure Callas had sung there as a teenager maybe in a recital so she knew the acoustic. And by 1957 Callas voice had shrunk by 1/5 of its original size. Yet people need to stop blaming the damn acoustic and start taking responsibility for simply not having enough voice to sing opera.
@@beachfanatic2010 I’m confused on how or why you get to decide what the minimum standards should be. What credentials do you have to determine who should or shouldn’t be an opera singer? The ego is unbelievable
Sie war für mich die größte in ihren Fach Belcanto über viele Jahrzehnte❤❤ Edit Gruberova ich vermisse sie sehr!!!!
God bless Edita
You will never be forgotten by your multitude of fans
RIP Edita . We remember your beautiful voice.
RIP Edita. Your voice will always stay in our hearts
I really thought she had like 10-20 years more ahead of her
@@LohengrinO as heartbreaking it sounds, at least la Regina didn’t get to go through DECLINE in health terms, and she left with us so much to remember and adore. A true artist of greatness unparalleled in her generation.
RIP Edita - the best Zerbinetta ever!!!! thank you for the posting!
And Roberta Peters and Beverly Sills
Edita Gruberova, the last true Belcanto singer. - Cheers, Heinz
Spectacular! Thanks for starting my day, here in Manhattan, on such a high note.
Dear God, her tonal precision always slays me. I adore her and miss her terribly. Last Prima Donna Assoluta.
she was never an Assoluta though, although she tried so hard to be one
I can never get enough of these early videos of Gruberova. Love the scoops and those pianissimos are hard to match. 👏🏼👏🏼
Magnific ❤❤❤❤❤ Edita Gruberova forever❤❤❤❤
A veces es increíble lo poco que se sabe de la técnica y posibilidades de la voz. Mucha gente melomana escribe y dice cualquier cosa.
Gruberova tiene una cualidad absolutamente increíble de pureza vocal, sonoridad limpia que es sencillamente apabullante! Más allá de cualquier preferencia. Sus cualidades naturales y técnicas son absolutamente únicas. Y eso lo ha mostrado a lo largo de su carrera (claro, nadie es perfecto, ¿eh?). Pero su FACILIDAD NATURAL Y ADQUIRIDA para el canto es sencillamente distintiva.
Y de eso no hay duda alguna.
¡ Totalmente de acuerdo ! La maestra Gruberova tenía facultades naturales increíbles, además de su hermoso timbre ( aspectos que no todas las cantantes tienen, porque hay algunas que poseen habilidades naturales pero una voz horrible, no cito nombres porque no quiero ser linchado ), aunado a eso, el estudio y dedicación contribuyen al desarrollo adecuado de la voz, por eso y otras razones más es la maravillosa diva, reina de la coloratura, patrimonio de la humanidad.
Un instrumento con muchas dotes: Bellísimo sonido, claro y límpido, flexible y potente ¡Voz terapéutica que embelesa!
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing, Lohengrin O
Gorgeous!!!!!
3 times they call her back... Edita was being treated as Royalty from her very early days
@@LohengrinO They were right!! She was a true master of coloratura in her prime years!! A very special Voice!!!
Just as Lohengrin O wrote, at her prime she was wonderful. Sadly, she's been embarrassingly poor to listen to and look at for years now.
Maravillosa Edita.....¡¡¡
¡Que vooz tan pura ,clara maravillosa cantante única,de las más grandes
Brava.
RIP Edita Gruberová (born #otd in 1946) 🌹
MAS PERFECTA...IMPOSIBLE
I DIDN'T KNOW EDITA HAD DIED. SO SAD, I AM HEART BROKEN.
Ríp edita gruberova
Misericórdia...acabei de constatar que esta senhora ja é falecida desde 2021...😢
Deus a tenha... sou fã e estou em choque😢
TOCADA POR LOS DIOSES. ÚNICA.
Τής πάει γάντι!
Ευχαριστώ, Τεό.
R. I. P. Editissima
Thanks for posting. I recorded it in 1883 this Münchner Sonntagskonzert of BR also live, but my VHS quality is to bad now to digitize.
She is stunning here! I've never liked how she approached her low notes though. It's like she yawns them. My favorite recording of Olympia is Joan's early version. Although she doesn't go for CRAZY high notes, her breakneck pacing and mechanical perfection really give the impression of a wind up doll gone manic.
My fav is Ingeborg's... Digital human sound
I haven't listened to hers! I shall have to
I prefer the version of Nathalie Dessay, the very best for me
well early Dessay is very hard to match in coloratura terms... and what a Beautiful timbre my God
Так идите и слушайте. Зачем это писать под записью Груберовой?
🥰😍
On ne comprend pas grand chose et elle ne fait pas la reprise avec les variations. Mais quelle virtuosité !
I always give it a shot but for the life of me I can’t get to like Gruberova just as I can’t get to like Nilsson. I can’t endure a full aria from either, no matter how wonderful they may be. And I feel frustrated about it tbh.
I love early Gruby and I loved her even more before the Opera Connoisseurs taught me to notice Scoops...
I agree with Nilsson, I could never get into her. That being said, I always loved me some Gruberova. ❤️❤️
Funny you mention nilsson. I was just thinking that despite having such different voices, I think their methods of vocal production are similar. Both give me the impression of singing on the edge of their voice, if that makes any sense. And they both have that cutting edge to their voices. Personally, I love em both though.
isn't this called bigotry lol
@@nathandavis3002 i could add Luciana Serra also 🤷🏼♂️
I wonder how old she is here
In addition to my prior comment, no one leans into high notes the way she does. 5:52!
I love the voice, but the hair was way too frizzy 😅
love crazy hair on Divas
the tempo is too slow though
Well, I have heard so much better from La Gruberova.
She have obvious breathing issues, and the slidings are not very pleasant.
I agree with you. In addition I find it without charm - and even boring. She was a great singers and able to do so much better.
Even here, she is just NOT my cup of tea. At all. I hear so many false vowel sounds and "slides".
Piccole Piccolo moscerino.
I have personally heard Edita's Voice in the Herodous Atticus theater which literally DEVOURS the sound of the singers (Marilyn Horne had stopped singing 1min after recital started and left stage never to return, Angela Gheorghiou was a barely audible whisper, Renee Fleming was as if she never sang...) and Edita's voice was SO BIG that when she turned her head you could hear the Cone of her Sound change direction... 20 mins earlier Barbara Hendricks in the same double recital was being covered by a pigeon that was screaming on the ancient rocks behind her... BIG Voice not to say HUGE for soprano coloratura
@@LohengrinO Edita was never a soprano coloratura. Let’s start there. I’ve read this story of yours many times on your channel. Edita was a a soubrette at best but not a genuine coloratura of the likes of Tetrazzini. And we’ve been so darn deceived by people like Horne and Fleming with absolutely no voices at all to not even sing happy birthday that when somebody can project a bit like Edita with her hollow screams we consider that big singing when in fact the absolute MINIMUM weight and vocal size to sing opera should be Clara Petrella. m.th-cam.com/video/AqWnk0ogkj8/w-d-xo.html
If you have a small and even a medium size voice SIMPLY stay DA PHUCK away from opera!!!!!!!! My goodness why is that so hard for “singers”. Why? If fact, Tebaldi considered herself to not have big voice and she stated her voice was good as a lyric soprano. But Tebaldi is a blue whale and Edita would be a microscopic germ in size comparison. Back in the 1950’s lyric sopranos like Petralla, or Eleanor Steber were not considered real primmadonnas cause their voices were simply too light and they were comprimario.
@@beachfanatic2010 even with the regrading of yours Edita's voice was not small as she passed the Herodus Atticus test magificently... (btw Maria could be heard OUTSIDE the theater as people sitting on the rocks outside could hear her)
@@LohengrinO I’m sure Callas had sung there as a teenager maybe in a recital so she knew the acoustic. And by 1957 Callas voice had shrunk by 1/5 of its original size. Yet people need to stop blaming the damn acoustic and start taking responsibility for simply not having enough voice to sing opera.
@@beachfanatic2010 I’m confused on how or why you get to decide what the minimum standards should be. What credentials do you have to determine who should or shouldn’t be an opera singer? The ego is unbelievable