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That 30 minutes on a NACS is very welcome here in Canada with our very poor CCS charging infrastructure, might have to release my 2023 Tesla and get my Ioniq 5 LTD again loved that car! I only wished they would have moved the charge port to the rear drivers side and then we would be on cloud nine!!! Always a great channel for the latest Hyundai / Kia updates!
For the 2025 AWD Limited, I'd prefer greater range (+30 miles) over bigger wheels. At least on some vehicles, I've heard that bigger wheels may also lead to a more harsh ride. Is there a convenient way to get the 2025 AWD Limited with the smaller wheels? Is going this route unwise?
I'm driving the 2024 ioniq 5 limited . Have a lease but will be looking to get into the 25 or some other option at the end of this year. If the prices are as high as you say they are I will have to explore either staying with a 2024 or switching to a Volvo ex 30 or Chevy bolt. The ionic 5 is a great car but a little bit bigger for my needs than this price justifies. Who knows what's going to happen so all options are open. Thanks for your reviews much appreciated!
Perplexing as to why they still haven't updated the bland gloss exterior colors and instead added more matte colors that very few want. How about Ecotronic Grey in gloss?
They are talking about 350KW chargers because the charging unit in the car is current limited and some older 200-250W chargers are only able to deliver this power with high current and low voltage. Similar to the NACS, the car can take 340 - 360A, which is about 120 -130kW at the input, so 60 - 65kWh for 30 minutes of charging. Interestingly, for the European version of the facelift Ioniq5 or EV6 they still quote 18 minutes.
Curious but have you considered waiting and getting the Ioniq 7/9 SUV? Should be releasing very soon and on sale in 2025. Obviously top trims will be 15K more expensive than a Ioniq 5 Limited, but I'd imagine base models will cost around 55K or less
I thought I heard somewhere that Digital Teal was going away. Happy to see that is not the case! I personally would like to see more bright colors but they probably wouldn't sell well.
At about 11:30 you mentioned the heat pump has been added. What are you referring to? And also do all 2025 trims have the heating for the battery conditioning?
My plan had been to replace my 2022 AWD Limited 5 with a 2025. I'm re-thinking that. We also have a 2024 AWD SE 6 and the difference in amenities between the trim levels is huge. I really want the Limited trim, but Hyundai still keeps putting those damn big range killing tires on that trim level. My 5 has 40,000 miles with 5/32nd of tread left on the tires. I'm starting to think of keeping the 5, then when the tires need replacing I'll invest in either 19" or even 18" (if I can) wheels and tires. That will give me a bigger range increase than buying a 2025.
Personally, I'm with you but based on the the number of Subarus on the road, I think they expect that the off-road look will sell better than a sporty look and I'd probably agree with them but I do think they may have gone a little too far with the pixel camo. I don't see many Subaru owners being into that as they probably prefer the more boring, uninspired styling of those cars.
Hardly anyone takes ANY “off-road trim” actually off-road, just like hardly anyone takes “race” trims to a racetrack. They know it’s mostly aesthetic, so they don’t have to actually back it up with much performance.
Does anyone know if it would be possible to get the 2025 Ioniq 5, but replace the steering wheel with the 2024 version? I really dislike having a bottom spoke on the steering wheel.
Yes, I got my notification from Hyundai this morning that reported these stats. I don't see them on the EPA page yet, but assume that will happen soon. I felt smug to see that the 2025 version of my Limited AWD will see an increase of only 9 more miles of range, even less than I guess'timated. No big deal. I'm happier than ever to have bought mine in 2024. As for Superchargers, I intend to avoid them if at all possible. After my two-years of free charging with EA expires, I'd much rather pay for my DCFC sessions to other providers.
Corbin, would you happen to know where the charging port is on these new models? What's the point of adding a NACS port if the cable can't reach because the port is on the wrong side for V3's, the most common charger in America by far?
@TheIoniqGuy That's too bad. It's going to cost it in sales. Most other manufacturers are moving it to either the driver's rear or the passenger's front, giving them an advantage. I asked because I read some place that it was moving to at least the rear bumper. Thanks for the info Corbin.
I prefer cloth seats (unless you can get vented seats) - can an owner swap in a heated steering wheel on the SE trim ??? Seems like that should at least be an option if not standard.
Glad they finally brought back the heated rear seats! IMO that was one of the most annoying feature exclusions for the U.S. market. Now we essentially get the rest-of-world features minus matrix headlights, frunk, and the US spec rear turn signals.
Yeah, the 2025 is shaping up to a pretty well featured. I would have loved to have seen the surround view dash cam system though. That's really the only thing I would want from the Korean spec
@@TheIoniqGuy Yes I agree! I don't know why they insist on only selling that option in Korea. They need to start competing with Tesla sentry mode, especially with all the crazy drivers in the US! 😂
I'm perplexed by the small improvement in range from 2024 to 2025 compared to all the other trims. I wonder is this might be in part to correct their previous estimation which had the same range for the SEL AWD and the Limited AWD in spite of the fact that the Limited has larger 20 inch wheels.
Very curious to see if the roof rails can be retrofitted to a 2024 or if they are integrated into the roof. Would much rather go that route than get Thule or Yakima clamp-style crossbars!
Any guesses on the range of a XRT with all-season tires? Pretty much all the goodness of the Limited AWD for a bit less money and without those range destroying wheels.
@@davidw7005 looking at the numbers again it doesn't make any sense as to why the RWD range wasn't effected vs the other trims while the AWD was. Something is off as it should be getting 290 like the lower AWD trims with the exception of the XRT. With that being said the EPA is the EPA. I'm getting way better numbers for my EV6 GT if I decided to drive it normally but I haven't yet so. 😁
I know this is unrelated to the topic of this video. But have you used iPedal in your Ioniq 5 lately? I feel like it's much smoother than it used to be, for me. Is this something that happened with you vehicle over time? or was there an Update for this?
I don’t know what you mean by the boost converter. There is no such thing. The car uses the rear motor inverter to step up the voltage from 405V to the battery voltage when charging at 450V chargers. That inverter has a lot of capacity and isn’t the reason for any current amperage limitation when charging at 450V chargers. The reason are the cables. And my guess is that the NACS port adds another limitation which results in the slightly reduced top charging speed even at 800V chargers.
Hey Corbin, why do you think the SE and the Limited are the best options for 2025 and not the SEL? Also, since you've had the AWD for a while, would you still say that's much better than RWD? I figured living in a colder climate makes the heat pump vital imo. Thanks.
the SEL is just about 3k more expensive than the SE, but the only things you get that really make a difference are heated steering wheel, rear heated seats/air conditioning, roof rails, wireless charger, and some safety features that aren't essential. so unless you need some of those features, it doesn't seem worth the upgrade. the limited edition is obviously more expensive at 7k over the SE, but you get a lot more features for it. the SEL seems like a bad balance of budget to features unless you really want heated seats for kids or are really concerned with lane-change warnings.
Any idea of what trim the Ioniq 5 N will come in? I really want one, but the US version is missing stuff that is available in Canada and Europe. It doesn't make sense to me to produce two different trims for North America. I'm actually contemplating buying one in Canada and importing it. I guess I'm talking about the 2026 model since the 2025 is the one here now.
Great update, Cobin! This is a very detail-oriented question you might not be able to answer now,, but on the Limited for 2025, do you know if turn signals, reverse lamps, trunk area lamp, and vanity lights will be LED bulbs?
My theory about the 350 kW charger is that the most common 250kW charger are superchargers and they are only delivering 500v vs the 1000v from EA and others.
On their wording, you are correct. They don't want their customers getting the wrong impression with Tesla's V3's 250kW speeds, which are for optimized, high amperage charging, not high voltage.
???? OK let's pause here at 2:25 regarding the 7500.00 Federal discount applying for the 2025 model years, but only if they are leased? (not straight out purchased?) is that what you meant to say? I think I heard you right, but it's weird, only leases get the full 7500.00 credit, but purchases get only 50% of the 7500.00 credit, assuming that's the case, can you offer some opinion on why this is? (was it intentional all along from the powers that be or is it a freak result or loophole that was not really anticipated when these rules were being drawn up?
Purchases qualify for $3750. Leases get $7500 because part of the law is that fleet owners can collect the full $7500. Hyundai acts as the fleet owner.
Likely due to it being developed for longer than the new standard Ioniq 5. If Hyundai follows what Kia is going to do, then only people that buy after the official announcement that they were opening to Tesla Superchargers will get a free adapter.
@@Trubyd44 The Ioniq 5 came out almost a year before the other 2025 trims hit the market. That is a significant amount of time that allowed for the development of NACS integration.
IIRC the usable capacity was 77, so that means it went up to 84. But I am doubting with you. However, my biggest question is, will a NACS car be able to use all superchargers. I'm leaning to no, but it would be nice if it could.
Not all superchargers use the CCS protocol required. The older V2 and V1 superchargers use an older Tesla proprietary protocol released when most other manufacturers didn't even have EV's, and there was no standard protocol. Tesla had to do it all on their own. When the CCS standard finally came out, Tesla included it's protocol on their newest Superchargers, meaning the V3's and V4's and going forward. Other manufacturers never used that original protocol before there was a standard, so they cannot charge on those older Superchargers. It has nothing to do with just the port. Hope that helps.
@junehanzawa5165 right, but what if those that adopted nacs included both protocols? Again, probably not. But what makes that interesting is that tesla had no reason to use ccs except for tesla's to be able to charge at ccs stations with an adapter.
@sprockkets They're not going to add the extra hardware/boards needed to run the protocol just to be able to charge on 150kW V2 superchargers. Kia/Hyundai is not even willing to move the charging port to the correct location.
I don't know how to answer anymore. A Hyundai engineer told me that all Ioniq 5 have heat pump but that RWD is only for battery conditioning not cabin conditioning.
The Ioniq 5 was likely my wife's choice but with the increased prices, it really has a hard time competing with the Tesla Model 3 or Y in their refreshed versions. M3 RWD at $34,990 and MYLR AWD at $34,490. Only positive for the Ioniq 5 is more buttons and other physical controls. It's hard to justify ~$4K for those but some just hate the screen-based UI. And some just plain hate Musk! Oh well.
I guess you could argue it's not a price increase given that the battery increased in size (and you get a rear wiper 😉). Boy that XRT is fugly. They should have brought the N line.
If the $7500 tax credit is off the table (and by all indications it will be by the time I'm ready to purchase in March), then the Limited at $58k and change is way overpriced, especially when you can get a Model Y for $6k to $8k less. Crazy to me that the price actually went up after production switched to the U.S. I'm certain I won't be getting an EV next year, I'll have to shop for a hybrid instead.
They must be selling more than they targeted or they aren't selling as many as they hoped and they can't beat Tesla with pricing so they are just gonna sell what they can at a higher price. I was totally expect a couple thousand dollar price decrease like what happened to the Ioniq 6. My other theory is they are discounting the Ioniq 6 and then trying to make up the money with the Ioniq 5
Sounds like they are jacking up their prices to exploit the tax credit. Now if the tax credit goes away watch them start putting cash on the hood to move the cars. Not a good look for Hyundai here. Slower charging, and that NACS speed not impressive at all. 30 minutes on NACS is not really good. I think that is what I saw a timed test produce with the 90ish kwh speeds with the current I5 so I don't know that they fixed that if they are still quoting 30 minutes. Only says acoustic glass in the front, and only privacy glass in the rear. No mention of heat pumps on RWD models. Looks like you have to have an AWD still to get a heat pump. I hate to say it, but getting a used I5 is looking like a better choice before they removed everything. Let someone else eat the depreciation. Not worth it just to get a rear wiper from what I can see at the moment. The modest bump in range due to the larger battery would be welcome, but looks like you have to get a Limited if you want the nice stuff. The upgrade to the infotainment still doesn't look very compelling to me after watching the EV9 content and the mess that thing still is. I started off excited about the 2025 upgrades, but with the price increases and stripped out features I am rethinking that. If you use the car at a NACS site expect worse performance at the charger. Nah, better to stick with CCS sadly until Tesla upgrades their sites to true V4.
A 2-minute charging trade-off for thousands of additional charging locations seems fine to me! Not to mention it will be future-proofed when all DC fast charging stations eventually have NACS cables and a possible permanent hardware fix to AC charging overheating issues.
@@stevenmeyers5088 I think looking at the current roll out of DCFC that NACS conversion appears it is going to be slower than you might expect. We ae not seeing new NACS ports on most of the new sites I have seen recently launched. I am not downplaying the value of the Tesla SC network. I just road tripped last weekend in my Model 3 and the SC sites are fantastic for getting a charge on a 400v car. Look at that chart again that Corbin shared and you will see the NACS line stated that it is a 30 minute charge. So you will save at least 10 minutes if you can find a working CCS charging location with a 350kw charger. Until we see V4 sites deployed by Tesla the 800v cars are going to be waiting(including Tesla's own Cybertruck). Hyundai is ahead of the game, now we wait for our infrastructure to catch up with these cars. What does that mean for the 2025 I5? Well you get a bump in battery size, and a rear wiper. Those are the biggest advances for this refresh. I think they also remove the secondary coolant system to streamline that. But as was pointed out they have continued to take stuff away while raising prices. At this point I will probably just look for a gently loved and cared for used I5 and let someone else eat the depreciation and wait to see what comes next. I mean if I am stuck using adapters does it really matter? Yes, I have a CCS adapter for my Tesla for when I head into no mans land where there are not many DCFC and if you do find one it is a slow CCS. So keep your options open. Sounds like The Tesla network is going to be a good backup charging site for the new car just like it is today. Does not sound like they fixed the booster. You are right about the AC charging issue. That hopefully is fixed in the 2025.
So 10-80% would be about 60 KW it needs to charge. Saying it takes 30 minutes, looking at maybe 120 kwh charging on 400v chargers? I would guess that because 120 kwh even at lower voltage should be a flat curve all the way to 80%. That’s an ok boost from 100 kwh. 100 kwh would do that in about 35 minutes. Seems like it will charge just about as fast as a Model Y 10-80%. Thanks for your video! Looking forward to video 2 of the race you did with out of spec!
Sounds about right. I was told months and months ago that theoretically the current boost converter is capable of around 120kW so they may not have even changed anything with it. I'll definitely take it in a pinch. Coming out tomorrow morning!
disappointing - increase in prices - not what I thought was promised (native NACS ports). Not much in the way of features - that would drive me to buy a 2025 - and when the 7500 fed credit going away (as the incoming administration said would happen) - these are prices out of what a family with kids can afford. ;-(
lol, why do people think that prices would be lower if vehicles are made in the US? The parts and materials are all still imported. Expect prices to go up even more once Trumps tariffs go into effect. You can build everything in the US but material and labor costs will keep prices higher.
If you are going to buy this car or any EV’s be aware of the 12V battery draining problem which controls all functions of the car including starting and unlocking the car. The makers are not taking responsibility to correct this so you have to know the ongoing costs and monitoring of the battery life. I couldn’t use my car and had to tow it to get the battery replaced. Crazy! Will never buy an EV again…not for me.
I understand you getting rid of a 22 for the 25...me i have the 2024 ultimate (Canadian trim)in Lucid Blue and we love that car...but the rear wiper..I mean I don't know ,sell it to Hyundai and get the 2025.. It will have more buttons, bigger battery. Maybe ota updates (not available in 2024 in Canada)we also have the Kona ev 2024 ultimate and i really love the extra buttons and ota.. I think this upcoming first winter with our 2024 will give us an answer, will the no rear wiper but an aftermarket digital mirror be enough to drive safely?
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Mind-blowing that in 2024 Hyundai still does not let you get a heat pump in a non-AWD configuration!
That 30 minutes on a NACS is very welcome here in Canada with our very poor CCS charging infrastructure, might have to release my 2023 Tesla and get my Ioniq 5 LTD again loved that car! I only wished they would have moved the charge port to the rear drivers side and then we would be on cloud nine!!! Always a great channel for the latest Hyundai / Kia updates!
For the 2025 AWD Limited, I'd prefer greater range (+30 miles) over bigger wheels. At least on some vehicles, I've heard that bigger wheels may also lead to a more harsh ride. Is there a convenient way to get the 2025 AWD Limited with the smaller wheels? Is going this route unwise?
2025 AWD limited is in my future
Same
I'm driving the 2024 ioniq 5 limited . Have a lease but will be looking to get into the 25 or some other option at the end of this year. If the prices are as high as you say they are I will have to explore either staying with a 2024 or switching to a Volvo ex 30 or Chevy bolt. The ionic 5 is a great car but a little bit bigger for my needs than this price justifies. Who knows what's going to happen so all options are open. Thanks for your reviews much appreciated!
Yay!! A Corbin video. My day is good. Looking forward to the I90 Surge part 3 also.
Aw! Next I-90 video comes out tomorrow morning. I haven't seen it yet so I'll be watching too
@@TheIoniqGuy Yup!!!
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Perplexing as to why they still haven't updated the bland gloss exterior colors and instead added more matte colors that very few want. How about Ecotronic Grey in gloss?
They are talking about 350KW chargers because the charging unit in the car is current limited and some older 200-250W chargers are only able to deliver this power with high current and low voltage. Similar to the NACS, the car can take 340 - 360A, which is about 120 -130kW at the input, so 60 - 65kWh for 30 minutes of charging. Interestingly, for the European version of the facelift Ioniq5 or EV6 they still quote 18 minutes.
Curious but have you considered waiting and getting the Ioniq 7/9 SUV? Should be releasing very soon and on sale in 2025. Obviously top trims will be 15K more expensive than a Ioniq 5 Limited, but I'd imagine base models will cost around 55K or less
I thought I heard somewhere that Digital Teal was going away. Happy to see that is not the case! I personally would like to see more bright colors but they probably wouldn't sell well.
go go Hyundai canada ! waiting !
I emailed Hyundai Canada for details on when we might start seeing Ioniq 5’s up here and I got a “we do not have that information”. Sigh.
@@stephanp3563 hehe. soon TM@
@@stephanp3563 Do you really believe them?
Way too much for any Hyundai or Korean car. I would never pay that much for one.
At about 11:30 you mentioned the heat pump has been added. What are you referring to? And also do all 2025 trims have the heating for the battery conditioning?
My plan had been to replace my 2022 AWD Limited 5 with a 2025. I'm re-thinking that. We also have a 2024 AWD SE 6 and the difference in amenities between the trim levels is huge. I really want the Limited trim, but Hyundai still keeps putting those damn big range killing tires on that trim level. My 5 has 40,000 miles with 5/32nd of tread left on the tires. I'm starting to think of keeping the 5, then when the tires need replacing I'll invest in either 19" or even 18" (if I can) wheels and tires. That will give me a bigger range increase than buying a 2025.
Why is the Limited AWD range increase so much less than the other models' jumps from 2024 to 2025?
From 7:04, with the new charging standard will we need new V2L adapters? I bought some for my 2023 I5 and am wondering if they'll still work
You can likely use a J1772 to J3400 adapter but I don't know if this has been tested yet.
@@TheIoniqGuy Makes sense. Thanks. Do you recommend any V2L adapters for NACS?
Hyundai should have offered a N-Line trim instead of the XRT. Hardly anyone will take this vehicle off-road!
Personally, I'm with you but based on the the number of Subarus on the road, I think they expect that the off-road look will sell better than a sporty look and I'd probably agree with them but I do think they may have gone a little too far with the pixel camo. I don't see many Subaru owners being into that as they probably prefer the more boring, uninspired styling of those cars.
Lost a sale from me without the N line trim.
Definitely interesting to not see an N-Line trim!
Hardly anyone takes ANY “off-road trim” actually off-road, just like hardly anyone takes “race” trims to a racetrack.
They know it’s mostly aesthetic, so they don’t have to actually back it up with much performance.
@@stevenmeyers5088 I am uber disheartened by this news
Does anyone know if it would be possible to get the 2025 Ioniq 5, but replace the steering wheel with the 2024 version?
I really dislike having a bottom spoke on the steering wheel.
Yes, I got my notification from Hyundai this morning that reported these stats. I don't see them on the EPA page yet, but assume that will happen soon. I felt smug to see that the 2025 version of my Limited AWD will see an increase of only 9 more miles of range, even less than I guess'timated. No big deal. I'm happier than ever to have bought mine in 2024. As for Superchargers, I intend to avoid them if at all possible. After my two-years of free charging with EA expires, I'd much rather pay for my DCFC sessions to other providers.
Corbin, would you happen to know where the charging port is on these new models? What's the point of adding a NACS port if the cable can't reach because the port is on the wrong side for V3's, the most common charger in America by far?
Same location, passenger side. It would likely be far too costly to move out before a complete redesign of the car.
@TheIoniqGuy That's too bad. It's going to cost it in sales. Most other manufacturers are moving it to either the driver's rear or the passenger's front, giving them an advantage. I asked because I read some place that it was moving to at least the rear bumper. Thanks for the info Corbin.
I prefer cloth seats (unless you can get vented seats) - can an owner swap in a heated steering wheel on the SE trim ??? Seems like that should at least be an option if not standard.
Glad they finally brought back the heated rear seats! IMO that was one of the most annoying feature exclusions for the U.S. market. Now we essentially get the rest-of-world features minus matrix headlights, frunk, and the US spec rear turn signals.
Yeah, the 2025 is shaping up to a pretty well featured. I would have loved to have seen the surround view dash cam system though. That's really the only thing I would want from the Korean spec
@@TheIoniqGuy Yes I agree! I don't know why they insist on only selling that option in Korea. They need to start competing with Tesla sentry mode, especially with all the crazy drivers in the US! 😂
would be great if the SEL got at least a front sunroof. that's the one feature we miss a lot on my 23 SEL.
Any idea if tire chains can be used on the Ioniq 5 RWD?
Never needed a Frunk b/c commuter car for me but I take you point. Now I know reason why I don't have a Frunk. Thanks for the 411.
I'm perplexed by the small improvement in range from 2024 to 2025 compared to all the other trims. I wonder is this might be in part to correct their previous estimation which had the same range for the SEL AWD and the Limited AWD in spite of the fact that the Limited has larger 20 inch wheels.
It sure looks like the XRT isn't getting the interior V2L plugs. The second row is called out on the Limited, but not on the XRT.
Maybe it's in a different location like the hatch area to complement a more "active lifestyle"?
I've seen on multiple occassions there being typos in these press releases
Very curious to see if the roof rails can be retrofitted to a 2024 or if they are integrated into the roof. Would much rather go that route than get Thule or Yakima clamp-style crossbars!
Bjorn's test showed that the 5N battery overheats at maximum charge speeds and causes it to throttle.....that .ay be the reason for the 20 min time
I tested the Ioniq 5 N and it charged in 19 mins. Was a warm day so might have been a tiny bit of throttling but nothing major.
Any guesses on the range of a XRT with all-season tires?
Pretty much all the goodness of the Limited AWD for a bit less money and without those range destroying wheels.
Thanks for the recap. Still can't decide on XRT or Limited.
Do you have any idea why a 10% increase in battery capacity only gives 3.5% additional range in the limited AWD?
The Limited is heavier due to the extra features like the Vision Roof and 20" wheels.
@@volcalstone I'm comparing to 2024 which should have a similar weight.
I really don't know. It's pretty strange. I have a feeling in real world testing, it'll be much closer to 20 miles.
@@davidw7005 looking at the numbers again it doesn't make any sense as to why the RWD range wasn't effected vs the other trims while the AWD was. Something is off as it should be getting 290 like the lower AWD trims with the exception of the XRT.
With that being said the EPA is the EPA. I'm getting way better numbers for my EV6 GT if I decided to drive it normally but I haven't yet so. 😁
@@TheIoniqGuy Either way, I'm getting one!
I know this is unrelated to the topic of this video. But have you used iPedal in your Ioniq 5 lately? I feel like it's much smoother than it used to be, for me. Is this something that happened with you vehicle over time? or was there an Update for this?
I don’t know what you mean by the boost converter. There is no such thing. The car uses the rear motor inverter to step up the voltage from 405V to the battery voltage when charging at 450V chargers. That inverter has a lot of capacity and isn’t the reason for any current amperage limitation when charging at 450V chargers. The reason are the cables. And my guess is that the NACS port adds another limitation which results in the slightly reduced top charging speed even at 800V chargers.
I misspoke. The rear motor is doing the same job as a boost converter
when are we getting the plugs for the supercharger?
Hey Corbin, why do you think the SE and the Limited are the best options for 2025 and not the SEL? Also, since you've had the AWD for a while, would you still say that's much better than RWD? I figured living in a colder climate makes the heat pump vital imo. Thanks.
the SEL is just about 3k more expensive than the SE, but the only things you get that really make a difference are heated steering wheel, rear heated seats/air conditioning, roof rails, wireless charger, and some safety features that aren't essential. so unless you need some of those features, it doesn't seem worth the upgrade. the limited edition is obviously more expensive at 7k over the SE, but you get a lot more features for it. the SEL seems like a bad balance of budget to features unless you really want heated seats for kids or are really concerned with lane-change warnings.
Looks tempting. Do we see any updates to the self driving features all still gen 2
Any idea of what trim the Ioniq 5 N will come in? I really want one, but the US version is missing stuff that is available in Canada and Europe. It doesn't make sense to me to produce two different trims for North America. I'm actually contemplating buying one in Canada and importing it. I guess I'm talking about the 2026 model since the 2025 is the one here now.
We will see... Agreed.
Great update, Cobin! This is a very detail-oriented question you might not be able to answer now,, but on the Limited for 2025, do you know if turn signals, reverse lamps, trunk area lamp, and vanity lights will be LED bulbs?
All those except possibly the trunk lamp are LED but if it's LED now unlike previous years, it's a 2 minute job to put one in.
@@TheIoniqGuy Great, thanks! Love all your videos and have learned so much from them.
Why is the AWD limited range less than the other AWD trims?
Larger wheels
@@TheIoniqGuyThe rwd limited though matches same range as the non limited rwds. Is the bigger wheels only on the AWD one that causes the lower range
That seems strange to me as well.
Are you going to do an Ev6 version of this video? That would be great
Yeah once Kia releases these details. They haven’t said anything about the US 2025 yet.
My theory about the 350 kW charger is that the most common 250kW charger are superchargers and they are only delivering 500v vs the 1000v from EA and others.
On their wording, you are correct. They don't want their customers getting the wrong impression with Tesla's V3's 250kW speeds, which are for optimized, high amperage charging, not high voltage.
I wish they would upgrade the V2L to support 3600 watts with a TT-30 RV plug.
???? OK let's pause here at 2:25 regarding the 7500.00 Federal discount applying for the 2025 model years, but only if they are leased? (not straight out purchased?)
is that what you meant to say? I think I heard you right, but it's weird, only leases get the full 7500.00 credit, but purchases get only 50% of the 7500.00 credit,
assuming that's the case, can you offer some opinion on why this is? (was it intentional all along from the powers that be or is it a freak result or loophole that was not really
anticipated when these rules were being drawn up?
Purchases qualify for $3750. Leases get $7500 because part of the law is that fleet owners can collect the full $7500. Hyundai acts as the fleet owner.
This has been how it is for years now.
I bought a 2025 Ioniq 5 N. Why does it still have CCS1? Why did I not get an adapter? Do you know?
Likely due to it being developed for longer than the new standard Ioniq 5. If Hyundai follows what Kia is going to do, then only people that buy after the official announcement that they were opening to Tesla Superchargers will get a free adapter.
@TheIoniqGuy You think it still would have come with NACS though, I dunno.
@@Trubyd44 The Ioniq 5 came out almost a year before the other 2025 trims hit the market. That is a significant amount of time that allowed for the development of NACS integration.
IIRC the usable capacity was 77, so that means it went up to 84. But I am doubting with you.
However, my biggest question is, will a NACS car be able to use all superchargers. I'm leaning to no, but it would be nice if it could.
Why would it not?
Not all superchargers use the CCS protocol required. The older V2 and V1 superchargers use an older Tesla proprietary protocol released when most other manufacturers didn't even have EV's, and there was no standard protocol. Tesla had to do it all on their own. When the CCS standard finally came out, Tesla included it's protocol on their newest Superchargers, meaning the V3's and V4's and going forward.
Other manufacturers never used that original protocol before there was a standard, so they cannot charge on those older Superchargers. It has nothing to do with just the port. Hope that helps.
@junehanzawa5165 right, but what if those that adopted nacs included both protocols? Again, probably not. But what makes that interesting is that tesla had no reason to use ccs except for tesla's to be able to charge at ccs stations with an adapter.
@sprockkets They're not going to add the extra hardware/boards needed to run the protocol just to be able to charge on 150kW V2 superchargers. Kia/Hyundai is not even willing to move the charging port to the correct location.
What’s depreciation like for these cars? Always wanted one.
I've seen roughly 50% without the tax credit but realistically 40% since I bought when I could still collect it.
@ Oh wow! I’ll take a look at used ones. Could be a nice deal to be had. Great channel. Enjoy your content.
Does the rear wheel drive get a heat pump?
No
Is it true then that the 2023 and 2024 listed do not have a heat pump? I have a 23 RWD limited.
I don't know how to answer anymore. A Hyundai engineer told me that all Ioniq 5 have heat pump but that RWD is only for battery conditioning not cabin conditioning.
@ at 6 below zero, I charged up and range read 120 miles. That was concerning. All went ok but MPLS to Phoenix was 8 hours of charging.
The Ioniq 5 was likely my wife's choice but with the increased prices, it really has a hard time competing with the Tesla Model 3 or Y in their refreshed versions. M3 RWD at $34,990 and MYLR AWD at $34,490. Only positive for the Ioniq 5 is more buttons and other physical controls. It's hard to justify ~$4K for those but some just hate the screen-based UI. And some just plain hate Musk! Oh well.
The original ioniq 5 rims (Spirograph) I like so much are gone?
Yeah, all new wheels designs
Still no update on supercharger access?
25 gets it from day one and the rest of the lineup early next year
@@TheIoniqGuyAny word on when day one is?
When they start going on sale. Sometime between now and December 31
Jan 15, 2025.
Ok so they took their sweet time to just announce the trims and prices and they increased the price. It makes the other BEV more appealing...
At $58K the Limited AWD seems overpriced. The Cadillac Optiq AWD with 300+ miles of range costs less and qualifies for the full $7500 tax credit.
Exactly. Even Hyundai's own, much better-equipped Genesys GV70 Advanced is only $2k more and has a similar range. Strange pricing strategy by Hyundai.
I need to hurry up and get one by next month before Trump f’s the incentives.
I guess you could argue it's not a price increase given that the battery increased in size (and you get a rear wiper 😉). Boy that XRT is fugly. They should have brought the N line.
That’s certainly one way of looking at it!
@@TheIoniqGuy the wiper is worth 1k no? LOL
Wow you dont get the N line trims?
Don’t know
If the $7500 tax credit is off the table (and by all indications it will be by the time I'm ready to purchase in March), then the Limited at $58k and change is way overpriced, especially when you can get a Model Y for $6k to $8k less. Crazy to me that the price actually went up after production switched to the U.S. I'm certain I won't be getting an EV next year, I'll have to shop for a hybrid instead.
They must be selling more than they targeted or they aren't selling as many as they hoped and they can't beat Tesla with pricing so they are just gonna sell what they can at a higher price. I was totally expect a couple thousand dollar price decrease like what happened to the Ioniq 6.
My other theory is they are discounting the Ioniq 6 and then trying to make up the money with the Ioniq 5
They say 350kWh chargers because that is what appears to be in the ground. I've never seen a 250kWh fast charger.
I’ve seen a bunch of 250kWh fast chargers.
Enjoy the LA Auto Show
I thought the RWD trims were supposed to get a heat pump? This is very disappointing.
So all RWD i5s in 2025 don't get a heat pump? Interesting...
Now built in the US, just in time for that to no longer matter...
Yeah 😔
Sounds like they are jacking up their prices to exploit the tax credit. Now if the tax credit goes away watch them start putting cash on the hood to move the cars. Not a good look for Hyundai here.
Slower charging, and that NACS speed not impressive at all. 30 minutes on NACS is not really good. I think that is what I saw a timed test produce with the 90ish kwh speeds with the current I5 so I don't know that they fixed that if they are still quoting 30 minutes.
Only says acoustic glass in the front, and only privacy glass in the rear.
No mention of heat pumps on RWD models. Looks like you have to have an AWD still to get a heat pump.
I hate to say it, but getting a used I5 is looking like a better choice before they removed everything. Let someone else eat the depreciation. Not worth it just to get a rear wiper from what I can see at the moment. The modest bump in range due to the larger battery would be welcome, but looks like you have to get a Limited if you want the nice stuff. The upgrade to the infotainment still doesn't look very compelling to me after watching the EV9 content and the mess that thing still is. I started off excited about the 2025 upgrades, but with the price increases and stripped out features I am rethinking that. If you use the car at a NACS site expect worse performance at the charger. Nah, better to stick with CCS sadly until Tesla upgrades their sites to true V4.
A 2-minute charging trade-off for thousands of additional charging locations seems fine to me! Not to mention it will be future-proofed when all DC fast charging stations eventually have NACS cables and a possible permanent hardware fix to AC charging overheating issues.
@@stevenmeyers5088 I think looking at the current roll out of DCFC that NACS conversion appears it is going to be slower than you might expect. We ae not seeing new NACS ports on most of the new sites I have seen recently launched. I am not downplaying the value of the Tesla SC network. I just road tripped last weekend in my Model 3 and the SC sites are fantastic for getting a charge on a 400v car. Look at that chart again that Corbin shared and you will see the NACS line stated that it is a 30 minute charge. So you will save at least 10 minutes if you can find a working CCS charging location with a 350kw charger. Until we see V4 sites deployed by Tesla the 800v cars are going to be waiting(including Tesla's own Cybertruck). Hyundai is ahead of the game, now we wait for our infrastructure to catch up with these cars. What does that mean for the 2025 I5? Well you get a bump in battery size, and a rear wiper. Those are the biggest advances for this refresh. I think they also remove the secondary coolant system to streamline that. But as was pointed out they have continued to take stuff away while raising prices. At this point I will probably just look for a gently loved and cared for used I5 and let someone else eat the depreciation and wait to see what comes next. I mean if I am stuck using adapters does it really matter? Yes, I have a CCS adapter for my Tesla for when I head into no mans land where there are not many DCFC and if you do find one it is a slow CCS. So keep your options open. Sounds like The Tesla network is going to be a good backup charging site for the new car just like it is today. Does not sound like they fixed the booster. You are right about the AC charging issue. That hopefully is fixed in the 2025.
Doesn’t make sense to take a very vulnerable undercarriage off road. Just bump the battery casing really hard, now your warranty is void……
What is the main reasons you are an Ioniq guy and not a Tesla guy?
At the time, Model Y was at least 10k more expensive than an Ioniq 5 and it didn’t make any sense from a financial standpoint
@TheIoniqGuy could you ever see yourself doing a switch?
Nope, never
@@TheIoniqGuy me neither, I need V2L and don't like One pedal drive. But I would like a Cybertruck but the dont sell where I live.
So 10-80% would be about 60 KW it needs to charge. Saying it takes 30 minutes, looking at maybe 120 kwh charging on 400v chargers? I would guess that because 120 kwh even at lower voltage should be a flat curve all the way to 80%. That’s an ok boost from 100 kwh. 100 kwh would do that in about 35 minutes. Seems like it will charge just about as fast as a Model Y 10-80%. Thanks for your video! Looking forward to video 2 of the race you did with out of spec!
Sounds about right. I was told months and months ago that theoretically the current boost converter is capable of around 120kW so they may not have even changed anything with it. I'll definitely take it in a pinch. Coming out tomorrow morning!
@ Hurray! I’ll get my popcorn ready!
disappointing - increase in prices - not what I thought was promised (native NACS ports).
Not much in the way of features - that would drive me to buy a 2025 - and when the 7500 fed credit going away (as the incoming administration said would happen) - these are prices out of what a family with kids can afford.
;-(
lol, why do people think that prices would be lower if vehicles are made in the US? The parts and materials are all still imported. Expect prices to go up even more once Trumps tariffs go into effect. You can build everything in the US but material and labor costs will keep prices higher.
I stopped watching after he said he thought it would be cheaper to build here. I never saw anything built in the USA cheaper.
If you are going to buy this car or any EV’s be aware of the 12V battery draining problem which controls all functions of the car including starting and unlocking the car. The makers are not taking responsibility to correct this so you have to know the ongoing costs and monitoring of the battery life. I couldn’t use my car and had to tow it to get the battery replaced. Crazy! Will never buy an EV again…not for me.
318… ok.
Seems to me it has gone backwards!!
What are your thoughts!!
Gone backwards in what regard? The 2025 has vastly improved upon the existing model.
legitimate question. What effect do you think the new trump admin will have on the EV industry and its future in the US?
Far too early to tell, but I’d bet imported cars and parts prices go up - so most cars will get more expensive due to market conditions.
Elon will let you know in January
@@easydoesit2905 in this mixed up, crazy world where anything can happen, I could see that happening
I understand you getting rid of a 22 for the 25...me i have the 2024 ultimate (Canadian trim)in Lucid Blue and we love that car...but the rear wiper..I mean I don't know ,sell it to Hyundai and get the 2025..
It will have more buttons, bigger battery.
Maybe ota updates (not available in 2024 in Canada)we also have the Kona ev 2024 ultimate and i really love the extra buttons and ota..
I think this upcoming first winter with our 2024 will give us an answer, will the no rear wiper but an aftermarket digital mirror be enough to drive safely?