Tattoo Review: Hectograph VS Thermal Stencil Paper
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2018
- This video looks at the pros & cons of using Hectograph & Thermal paper for tattoo stencils. It also explains how to create a stencil using both products.
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Great value for your knowledge and wisdom,thanks brother
Very good point about muscle memory
thk you so much for this, I didn't know about the name "hectograph" paper !
Your choice of words and Demonstrations of information/knowledge helps me out totally. Keep it coming Jono
Thanks for the feedback! Got loads more on the way.
@Jono Smith Do you have any videos about the correct way to apply a stencil to the skin? what products to use and how to get it done? Massive appreciation for your work as a resource for learners
This video was very helpful! Did you use spirit brand for both types of paper? I ordered thermal paper without having a machine for it, so I think I'll need to order some of the hectograph paper for hand drawn stuff, right?
During my apprenticeship, I was only allowed to hand stencil. I used spirit stencil paper. I had to apply a decent amount of pressure though. So its definitely possible.
I love it. At the time I did not know it was a scanner too. I use the copy features alot.
The whole redoing the placement is exactly why before u apply it u hold it up line it w maker spots and then after u can line back up to the exact points u made in the skin
Do you think the way we hold the pencil/machine is definitive in getting nice lines? I tried the way you hold with the thumb going over the pencil and the index finger. It seems it gives a more steady grip, putting the work more on the wrist and avoiding shaky lines. Although it limits the dexterity a little. Do you agree?
Your channel is gold, man!
That’s a very interesting point you’ve made actually. It’s not something I really think about now but I remember when I first ever held a tattoo machine I couldn’t work out what the best way to hold it was. I don’t necessarily think there’s a ‘right’ way to hold it. I think whatever works for you to get nice consistent lines will be the best way. I do hold my pencil when stencilling designs like you’ve described with a finger applying pressure on the top to make sure I get a nice transfer underneath. Again, I don’t think this was a conscious thing but more of a method I’ve probably adapted naturally over time. I do tend to hold pencils and pens etc. a little weird anyway because I’m left handed. Thanks for your comment & thanks for watching!
My transfer paper rolls up when I take the yellow paper off before putting it through the machine. How can I stop the black transfer paper from rolling up?
Do you use normal transfer paper that you get in the arts shop ?
Awesome vid your awesome bro pls keep grinding ‼️💯
@3:21 @jono smith why not put the transfer paper behind the image paper and instand transfer it to the transfer paper ??.
i do this and my mentor, and it saves me a lot of time, so just switch the 2 paper and trance the image.
Yes you can absolutely do this and it does save time. It's just the way I was taught to do it. My mentor liked me to draw & redraw a lot. Thanks for watching!
he talk about a muscle memory ✌
Steve butcher is a very good artist and he like to trace his ref by his hand so he knew and will familiar to it
Great Video...cheers bud!!!
Thanks bro, I really appreciate that!
Awesome video!!
Also I don’t like using the stencils that are like tracing paper I like thinker paper I find I can never put it on right and regular paper It won’t fall apart as will what a dot matrix printer ? And are they expensive
Hi these videos are great. I learned a lot through your videos. I have hectograph paper. Can I put plain paper over the hex paper and make a stencil like that?
Yes you can. You can actually use the paper then directly onto the skin to transfer the stencil.
Thank you so much
cool, thank you!
pls help me. can you use spirit freehand stencil paper in a stencil printer. because i dont have the thermal paper
I prefer thermal to hand draw it’s not as dark and can see the tattoo out line better I need to buya tattoo stencil machine but I find they are very expensive I see people use fax machines but don’t know if it will work good and what kind should I buy
Any Dot Matrix printer will work with Thermal paper. You can find them in Ebay really cheap.
Great thanks!
You mentioned a dot matrix printer. I looked on ebay and being that I'm poor and they a cheap is there a specific one that I should look for that will just copy the design I choose onto the thermal paper? Like a design that is on paper and copy it to the thermal? Or do they only work for designs off the computer?
Joseph Warrick There’s no specific dot matrix to do the job, they’ll all work. Using a dot matrix printer though you will need to print the design from a computer.
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I have used a lot of times a dot matrix and hectograph paper. It isn't as strong as handmade with a pencil. Is it better with thermal in the dot matrix printer?
Yes I use thermal paper in the dot matrix and it works great.
thanks for the answer. I was wondering what works beter in the dot matrix, the hectographic or the thermal?
Just wanting to now if you have compared them both. Thank you anyway!
I only use thermal paper in a dot matrix. I think hectograph would be too thick for it to work.
good to know. My dot matrix printer is a cheap one with very bad resolution (240 x 120 dpi - Epson LX 300 II) and it works with hectographic, but the pressure on the stencil isn't as good as the handmade ones... so you get more copies with less effort, better accuracy for pc fonts (as you said in the video) but not the same durability in the skin....
thank you very much
0:35 is that A4 you have the dog design? Can one just use stencil stuff, put this on this on the skin and just working?
The stencil paper is A4. The actual design was much smaller. Yes you can use stencil stuff. Thanks s for watching!
Anyone knows a paper that leave a black stencil on the skin ?
Brilliant Bro!
Thanks for watching!
Whats different betwee repro fx spirit classic freehand paper and repro fx classic thermal? The classic freehand does actually say thermal on the back but I don't think it is? Bought a brother thermal printer and used the freehand paper and it didn't work well at all.
I’m pretty sure the ‘free hand’ stuff is the same as hectograph paper which is perfect fir hand drawn stencils but not so great for printers. The Classic Thermal paper is what you’re needing for the printer. You can make hand drawn ones with the thermal paper but they’ll be very weak. Thanks for watching!
If someone has a cheap copier I could buy I’m getting old I’m 60 and tattooed all my life and like I say I had bad tendons thought I had carpo tunnel but no it’s all my tendons and you can’t operate on tendons so it’s with me for the rest of my life I don’t do a lot of tattoos no more but wen I do I find making the stencil is harder on my arm than the tattoo machines and of course I love my brass coil machine and steel tubes so you have a fair bit of weight ther I tryed using the pen style rotary but hard to teach a old dog new tricks I don’t like rotarys and never have got my custom machines from Daniel labonte in Quebec Canada ther are beautiful machines I like the weight I’m used to it so only one with a idea on a cheap stencil machine let me know I’ve just dropped a bunch of cash on auto clave and ultra sonic new tattoo bed so I can’t afford a expensive copier so If a fax machine or matrix whatever works please help me out with info I’m in Canada not one of them cheap ass monsterpoint things they are a waste of money sorry about the comments I guess I’m getting senile I guess comes with age thanks all have a great day
Old faxmachine? I saw someone use it once Seems to work and you can pretty much find them anywhere for almost nothing
what paper is the white one
Where could I purchase the hectograph paper? When I search for it only thermal paper comes up?
A tattoo supply site like Barber DTS. Here’s a link for some: www.barberdts.com/uk/hectograph-carbon-paper.html
The thermal papel can be used as hectograph by simply drawing on it right?
You can do but it's not nearly as strong as hectograph and it's also a lot thinner which sometimes makes it rip if you use it like hectograph. Thanks for watching.
Oh I see. Thank you for your imput and your video
If you choose to draw on thermal paper, save the “onion” paper. You can use it also, as a stencil. Also, I never had a problem with it tearing as you draw on it, if you use a ball point pen. (Found this out by accident) lol 😂
Thanks Christy! Those are very good tips
Federico Ruttkay We are all here to gather knowledge. No problem sharing my accidental findings 😂😉
Very informative
The only thing I don’t like a dark stencil I find a thermal paper gives me a great outline and it don’t wear out I’ve tattooed for 38 years or so and never used a machine but my tendons are bad now and I could use a machine but can’t afford I had a cheap monster point and it was junk I’ve never had a problem I cut the paper I’ve never had a problem putting the stencil on with paper I had the tracing paper it’s the big jobs that suck
Teach me !!! I need guidance lol
Cant beet your vids Jono :)
Thanks bro that means a lot to me. Got absolutely loads of vids on the way. I've just finish making a video on all the processes I go through when performing a portrait tattoo. It'll be uploaded by the end of this week.
Can I use saral paper ?
what is the thin size of tracing paper?
It’s A4
Very nice
what thermal printer you recommend me cheap from ebay?
You can get pretty cheap Chinese thermal printers for around £60. They’re not brilliant but they do work.
I know its an old video but i draw my stencils on the thermal paper, thats all ive ever had lol. I hope to get some hectigraph paper soon because it would be alot cheaper
Yes they’ll be a lot stronger with hectograph as well.
Anyone know if it's possible to draw on thermal paper.
It is but it’s not a very strong result.
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you! Love your vids ✌🏼
Just use the paper u printed the design on...you can put it back over and over again..
No disrespect John, but in todays world most of the aritist have ink jet printer ir thermal copiers which is a cheaper option.
100% agree. This is quite an old video. I use inkjet stencils nowadays.
damn
Just use a stencil pencil
the first part was great but you talk too long on the second part and i lost my atennsion waiting for you to show me how to use the 2nd part
This is quite an old video tbf. There’s plenty of updated versions on my channel now.
19 минут пиздежа , можно было снять ролик 3-5 минуты
dot matrix printer - quick look, $1000 and up . not for this kid -i'm doing it free hand or triple drawing