Thanks Alan. Was really looking forward to at least in stereo frequency response charts and more importantly in 2.2. Speaker alone does not mean much and never really sounded good in the first place. Still lot helpful idnformation here. Again thank you
I bought into the Minirig world because of your videos. Been waiting to see what your thoughts on the 4 were. I bought it a couple of months ago and trying to like it. Love your videos! Minirig should be sending you speakers for review. I feel like you have sold a lot of speakers for them, I have 6 alone. Cheers!
they hate me and im not joking. i bought everyone one of my minirigs, they have never wanted anything to do with me. it was my own testing that showed their tilt eq wasn't working right. they fixed it and never contacted me again, not even a thanks. i have had quite a bit of back and forth and all they do its get annoyed with me. and i am customer remember. says it all.
Keep doing what you're doing, Alan! 🙂 You're honest, pragmatic and dare I say amusing lol You have opinions and you back them up with evidence! Whether someone else agrees is neither here no there. Looking forward to the next video.
its just my opinion at the end of the day but i have been disappointed but in tws mode they sound good enough to save the day for me. but a single one not so much. they should have just made it bigger.
Minirig haven't seemed to take my feedback well either. I complained that the volume keeps jumping to 75% out of nowhere, which has given me several heart-testing jump scares in the 2 weeks since it finally arrived. "We can confirm that there is nothing wrong with the speaker" was the first line of their response to my support request. They go on to admit that there is a software bug and they hope the developer will fix it in the next release, so I'm hoping they'll extend my returns period until that's fixed, let's see if they agree to that. The device also stays connected to my phone even after I disconnect: despite the phone showing "not connected", the Minirig still plays my dialtone when the phone rings, and the only way to get it to play music again after that was to reset the speaker. Expected more from £150. The sound is nice though. Maybe the volume bug is connected to the Minirig getting confused between inputs, not disconnecting properly. If only there was a way to switch between phono and bluetooth inputs. Like... you know... an actual physical switch.
Been waiting for this review from you! I have four Minirig 3s and one version 2 sub and one version 3 sub. When I found out that the Minirig 4 wasn't backwards compatible with the 3, I lost it! Took it personal I told them I won't be buying the 4 just to daisy-chain them to my 3s with 6 cables or whatever. Not worth it Appreciate your work!
Is there any other speaker of comparible quality for this form factor size? The size is huge for me I use minirig 4 as a delivery driver easy to stash in my rucksack sound quality and build quality seem great and definitely loud enough. Really enjoy the vids Alan thanks
@@ralfsta define quality, the lack of deeper bass is an issue for me. I mean for same money the hk luna can do some serious bass but not as neutral elsewhere. Always comes down to personal requirements and ears.
I'm lucky to live a few minutes away from their depot. Ive always mentioned having to get those half decent stands. Also they reduced the equaliser, as not many were using it? 2 4's ,2 subs amd 2 minis ,like what you reviewed a few years back ,is the best sounding , but does hit the wallet.
@alanrossreviews Only the pretty ladies and the repair man! These are expensive, but I think this is a speaker for clarity hifi sounding . Party speakers literally for that? I use 2 4's sometimes as computer monitor speakers and they're great for that and using them on a mixer ,no latency is a win also . I just think most would want more for their money, but nice to support an English company and not bias as I moved to Bristol. (Better than Crawley ) 😁
yes its geared that way but still lacks enough extension for the discerning ear. rolling off from 100hz loses so much of the track and the sub is too punchy.
ive got ... don't laugh the MK1's .. but they were game changing for me ... i remembering waiting/queuing ordering when the sub was first released fun times.
fair do's alan ... but was nice to be there at the start of the minirig journey im sure things have moved on ... i certainly don't enjoy wiring them up ... keep up the hard work !
I have 2x 3’s 2x 3 Subs 2x Mini 2’s I still have my 1 from 2011 and it’s still on the same battery. I prefer the sound and it seems louder than the new stuff? That’s progress folks!🤪
I have 2 mk3s and a subwoofer, what is the best format for songs to listen to on android.. mp3 etc. Also one of my speakers doesnt work on bluetooth beyond 1 ft away after splash damage in the shower. Tnks. Love the channel
It sounds like a case of 1 step forward and 2 steps back going from the MK3 to MK4. I realize they're a smaller company and don't have the resources JBL, Bose, and Sony do but no one wants to throw their hard earned 💰 on something that only works the way it's supposed to part of the time. I think it's kind of sad that as much time that has passed since the MK3 was released until the MK4 that it can't really be considered an upgrade on most/all fronts. I guess the tuning is up to preference but it's a step in the opposite direction of what I'd want from 3 to 4 as well. That battery move is straight from a Harman Kardon playbook, imho. 😂 I've always been interested in the minirigs but it seems like too much of a hassle for the price and not enough of a return on a significant investment. I think the idea is great but just needs a better implementation. Hopefully, they'll get it right eventually or someone else will release a very similar product that does at some point in time. Anyway, thank you for another awesome review and comparison, Alan! 😁👍👏
The mk3 is better as an alone speaker, but i think the mk4 is made to be paired to the minirig sub, Wich would explaines the reduced bass and bigger treble
@@Starvinmarvin1111-u4k thats what i was saying. the mk3 sub was released AFTER the mk3 itself was releases and was tuned to better match it than the mk2 sub.
I really liked the minirig 4 and sub but bit expensive for a none waterproof speaker and getting it to work with the app can be a bit fiddly. What I did like was you could choose which speaker was left right or mono
@@alanrossreviews you can if you turn the bass up on the app and keep mids and highs in the middle, it acts as like a modified high gain button where you can alter the volume of the bass separate to the mids and highs
ive given up on minirig, its not the company i once knew. All my minrigs have had issues. I have two subs, one dont work at all, the other only sometimes works with my mk4s.
@@alanrossreviews Honestly, minirig was better when they first came out. I feel like the wired mk1s were their peak and the moment they started going to bluetooth things went downhill. Don't get me wrong I like the ease of bluetooth over cables but cables gives you zero latency. And let's be honest minirig was basically designed for DJ's cus they make the perfect dj set up.
@@justanothergamer1723 yup but at least they kept the high quality inputs. Its just that the Bluetooth world moved on in terms of sound and price and the competition is much greater now. Mk4 bluetooth sub due next year which i think will be make or break. They really should have made the mk4 a bit bigger to allow for a little bit more bass in standalone mode imho.
I bought 2 minirig minis and a mini sub based on Z reviews video and your review. I still use them as desktop office speakers but I don't see myself upgrading. They are very pricey and the new versions just don't seem to be worth it.
Я подключаю Minirig MK4 к Onix 7. И неплохо получается без сабвуфера Minirig. При подключении к Sony XG-500 происходит дефект. Sony отрубается на громкости 73% и не играет. В паре с B&O A1 старым тоже неплохо получается на низкой громкости. A1 добавляет низких басов. Мой Minirig MK4 имеет некоторые дефекты по громкой связи и кое-еще в чём. Поддержка обещала мне рюкзак в подарок и скидку на второй. Но этого я так и не дождался. На связь никто не выходит....
I tried a Mk4 and ended up returning it and selling my full set of Mk3s with subwoofer. Not knowing if/when a Mk4 sub is coming isn’t good enough for me, and a wired system just isn’t always practical. I’ve temporarily gone with a Boom 2 for now, but I don’t see how these companies with all that R&D can’t just get a speaker right.
@@sunilbanga4623 you mean soundcore or minirig? Minirig being a one man outfit. Soundcore however are simply scrapping every inch of margin they can and trading off the value for money name they made for themselves.
Ive been waiting for months for you to do this at last.. the Rollout was terrible the worst.. god knows what there thinking.. not even a mk4 sub.. terrible how they go about putting out stuff..
I always want to try this little speaker, but I always wonder 150 british pound for each,? 299 CAD? how much if you purchase pair with sub? 1k? SO , TELL ME , what else can we get with that much money?😅
23 mins, yeah I can hear the difference. Bass is only slightly less on mk 4 which is overall brighter. @75% mk 4 sounds a bit bright. I prefer the mk 3 sound. @100% they both sound shit. Hence the sub though right? Nothing is going to sound good at 100%. My Denons don't. Speaking of which Alan, both need new batteries! Fancy doing a battery change instruction video for the Denon 250bt?
not really 🤣 and that bass was after a bit of tweaking by them for the first firmware. and i want to know why early versions have a different reset mode. what changed from early versions, im already pissed that as an early buyer at full price features including the app were not ready. They sent me a link to get app going but really it should have been out in the wild at launch. They really werent happy with my feedback.
That Minirig platform looks like it was designed by separate committees. Why is the subwoofer's diameter different to the main speakers? Why do they have to be wired together, rather than use pairing? Why isn't the subwoofer provided with attachments that could be used to physically connect the subwoofer and two satellites together so they can be carried as one unit?
😝 i dunno! the subwoofer is ported of course so needs some volume. as for attachments, cradles and feet etc Minirig have missed a trick here as there is already a third party market selling stuff for this. honestly after 5 years im not sure why we got this mk4 like this.
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Cheers again Alan for another great video, it's always a better day when you drop another video
thanks for that, honestly appreciated 👍
I always look forward to your reviews thank you for keeping it real
thank you, its supporters like you that keep me going 👍
Thanks Alan. Was really looking forward to at least in stereo frequency response charts and more importantly in 2.2. Speaker alone does not mean much and never really sounded good in the first place. Still lot helpful idnformation here. Again thank you
Now this is the video i was waiting for
hope it lives up to expectations 🤞😁
Was waiting to hear your thoughts, Thanks!!
its here 😁
@@alanrossreviews Thanks Man, dont change, love your vids, honest with clear info!
I bought into the Minirig world because of your videos. Been waiting to see what your thoughts on the 4 were. I bought it a couple of months ago and trying to like it. Love your videos! Minirig should be sending you speakers for review. I feel like you have sold a lot of speakers for them, I have 6 alone. Cheers!
they hate me and im not joking. i bought everyone one of my minirigs, they have never wanted anything to do with me. it was my own testing that showed their tilt eq wasn't working right. they fixed it and never contacted me again, not even a thanks. i have had quite a bit of back and forth and all they do its get annoyed with me. and i am customer remember. says it all.
@@tz7813 mine are not noticeable without ear to speaker but something changed with newer units, i have one of the early units.
great channel btw, love your thoroughness and passion and personality.
Thank you!
Keep doing what you're doing, Alan! 🙂 You're honest, pragmatic and dare I say amusing lol You have opinions and you back them up with evidence! Whether someone else agrees is neither here no there. Looking forward to the next video.
thanks for that. the only reward is comments like yours 😎
Hello Mr. Ross,
sorry for my english.
I like your work and thanks a lot for this honest Video.
Hope you stay on.
Thanks! 😃
Hey Alan, great job! Absobloodylotely brilliant. Cheers from Moscow!
@@timsvodnik cheers 🥂 👍
Thanks again Alan. Much appreciated.
@@tonygarlick7775 no worries 👍
SUPER DUPER speaker comparison video! 👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@candyman111881 i see you on lots of channels 😁😁😁
Fantastic review, best out there. Keep up the great work 👍
wow, thank you 👍👍 appreciated!
Brilliant video thank you Alan
I think I'll stick to my minirig MK3's but been waiting for your review on these I value your opinion 😊
its just my opinion at the end of the day but i have been disappointed but in tws mode they sound good enough to save the day for me. but a single one not so much. they should have just made it bigger.
Minirig haven't seemed to take my feedback well either. I complained that the volume keeps jumping to 75% out of nowhere, which has given me several heart-testing jump scares in the 2 weeks since it finally arrived. "We can confirm that there is nothing wrong with the speaker" was the first line of their response to my support request. They go on to admit that there is a software bug and they hope the developer will fix it in the next release, so I'm hoping they'll extend my returns period until that's fixed, let's see if they agree to that.
The device also stays connected to my phone even after I disconnect: despite the phone showing "not connected", the Minirig still plays my dialtone when the phone rings, and the only way to get it to play music again after that was to reset the speaker. Expected more from £150. The sound is nice though.
Maybe the volume bug is connected to the Minirig getting confused between inputs, not disconnecting properly. If only there was a way to switch between phono and bluetooth inputs. Like... you know... an actual physical switch.
Ive also had issues with it always wanting to pair even when manually disconnecting. Volume has been stable for me.
I can't stop buying Minirigs, I have 2.2.2 system atm, 2 3s, 2 sub3, 2 mini2. love the quality but i still want a tad bit more bass.....2 more sub3s
next year new wireless sub due out
Been waiting for this review from you! I have four Minirig 3s and one version 2 sub and one version 3 sub.
When I found out that the Minirig 4 wasn't backwards compatible with the 3, I lost it! Took it personal
I told them I won't be buying the 4 just to daisy-chain them to my 3s with 6 cables or whatever. Not worth it
Appreciate your work!
But its got an accelerometer 🤣
Is there any other speaker of comparible quality for this form factor size? The size is huge for me I use minirig 4 as a delivery driver easy to stash in my rucksack sound quality and build quality seem great and definitely loud enough.
Really enjoy the vids Alan thanks
@@ralfsta define quality, the lack of deeper bass is an issue for me. I mean for same money the hk luna can do some serious bass but not as neutral elsewhere. Always comes down to personal requirements and ears.
I've ended up with the Bose max I like it at medium volume hope Ur good Alan
good for the beach, me ok, cheers 👍👍😋
@@alanrossreviews yeah I'm a mile from two beautiful beaches
you are luckier than me then 😝
@@alanrossreviews thats what she said🤪
Never heard of this one ! But still watching…. Btw share the shroomz! 😵💫 lolol
yup, but go easy on them 😂
Hey! It's Alan"choo choo" Ross, with the Piston Motion arm! 🛤️ 😊
its got a life of its own 🤣
I'm lucky to live a few minutes away from their depot. Ive always mentioned having to get those half decent stands.
Also they reduced the equaliser, as not many were using it?
2 4's ,2 subs amd 2 minis ,like what you reviewed a few years back ,is the best sounding , but does hit the wallet.
have you met David? yeah the app is totally dumbed down now and looks like something from the 80s 🤣
@alanrossreviews Only the pretty ladies and the repair man!
These are expensive, but I think this is a speaker for clarity hifi sounding . Party speakers literally for that? I use 2 4's sometimes as computer monitor speakers and they're great for that and using them on a mixer ,no latency is a win also .
I just think most would want more for their money, but nice to support an English company and not bias as I moved to Bristol. (Better than Crawley ) 😁
yes its geared that way but still lacks enough extension for the discerning ear. rolling off from 100hz loses so much of the track and the sub is too punchy.
ive got ... don't laugh the MK1's .. but they were game changing for me ...
i remembering waiting/queuing ordering when the sub was first released
fun times.
@@carlgray6764 yeah in 2011 it was class leading but in 2024?
fair do's alan ... but was nice to be there at the start of the minirig journey im sure things have moved on ... i certainly don't enjoy wiring them up ...
keep up the hard work !
I have
2x 3’s
2x 3 Subs
2x Mini 2’s
I still have my 1 from 2011 and it’s still on the same battery. I prefer the sound and it seems louder than the new stuff?
That’s progress folks!🤪
I have a mk3. Can i pair a mk3 and a mk4 and the sub ? Would that like be the best of both worlds?
I have 2 mk3s and a subwoofer, what is the best format for songs to listen to on android.. mp3 etc. Also one of my speakers doesnt work on bluetooth beyond 1 ft away after splash damage in the shower. Tnks. Love the channel
Thanks. Yes this is the issue. Talked of as splash proof but really it has no waterproofing. Aptx is the best codec the mk3 can handle.
Great vid!
thank you 👌
It sounds like a case of 1 step forward and 2 steps back going from the MK3 to MK4. I realize they're a smaller company and don't have the resources JBL, Bose, and Sony do but no one wants to throw their hard earned 💰 on something that only works the way it's supposed to part of the time. I think it's kind of sad that as much time that has passed since the MK3 was released until the MK4 that it can't really be considered an upgrade on most/all fronts. I guess the tuning is up to preference but it's a step in the opposite direction of what I'd want from 3 to 4 as well. That battery move is straight from a Harman Kardon playbook, imho. 😂 I've always been interested in the minirigs but it seems like too much of a hassle for the price and not enough of a return on a significant investment. I think the idea is great but just needs a better implementation. Hopefully, they'll get it right eventually or someone else will release a very similar product that does at some point in time. Anyway, thank you for another awesome review and comparison, Alan! 😁👍👏
yes i fear time has passed them by and they are standing still. or make it cheaper 😝
The mk3 is better as an alone speaker, but i think the mk4 is made to be paired to the minirig sub, Wich would explaines the reduced bass and bigger treble
the mk3 was also made for the mik3 sub which came out after the minirig mk3.
@@alanrossreviews yes
Wasnt it the other way round, the mk 3 sub having been made for the mk 3 speaker ?
While mk4 speaker been made for mk3 sub
@@Starvinmarvin1111-u4k thats what i was saying. the mk3 sub was released AFTER the mk3 itself was releases and was tuned to better match it than the mk2 sub.
Still good for off-axis listening; though a new sub with deeper bass would also be appreciated
You don't think line 2 is deep enough. I find 1 not enough, 2 way too much. You can by a seperate volume splitter that works well.
just expected more sound wise after 5 years.
@@alanrossreviews Indeed, it's almost the same 😂
An inline volume controller for sub is a good idea
good thinking! yup! they could have built this in!
I really liked the minirig 4 and sub but bit expensive for a none waterproof speaker and getting it to work with the app can be a bit fiddly. What I did like was you could choose which speaker was left right or mono
Plus alter volume of bass easier when using the sub
to me this is the biggest miss. you cannot balance the volume of the sub to your liking now. any third party sub as a minimum has volume control.
@@alanrossreviews you can if you turn the bass up on the app and keep mids and highs in the middle, it acts as like a modified high gain button where you can alter the volume of the bass separate to the mids and highs
@@Starvinmarvin1111-u4k well there is no mids slider but i take your point
@@alanrossreviews yeah sorry, I forgot it didnt have mids slider
Minirig Sub 4 expected March 2025.
It will be fully Bluetooth, so no more wires.😎👍
ive given up on minirig, its not the company i once knew. All my minrigs have had issues. I have two subs, one dont work at all, the other only sometimes works with my mk4s.
@@alanrossreviews Honestly, minirig was better when they first came out. I feel like the wired mk1s were their peak and the moment they started going to bluetooth things went downhill. Don't get me wrong I like the ease of bluetooth over cables but cables gives you zero latency. And let's be honest minirig was basically designed for DJ's cus they make the perfect dj set up.
@@justanothergamer1723 yup but at least they kept the high quality inputs. Its just that the Bluetooth world moved on in terms of sound and price and the competition is much greater now. Mk4 bluetooth sub due next year which i think will be make or break. They really should have made the mk4 a bit bigger to allow for a little bit more bass in standalone mode imho.
45:36 "We've finished it, I finished it."
46:40 "If I was getting five last week, I'd be chuffed to get 10 this week." 😮
yup 😁
I have to say, I only really noticed how 'biased for cash' some other reviewers are until I started watching your reviews.
@@drrev40 its got much worse this last year
i know back early 2024 they reached out to test them but they never replied anymore 😅,
seems i just will try again who knows if possible
minirig reached out you? you are lucky, despite all my videos they never once reached out to me., 🤣
@@alanrossreviews yeah but wasn't best outcome 🤣🤣
😣
2.1 minirig setup vs. Devialet Mania please :D
lol! anyone wanna lend me a devialet mania? i dont have the budget for those speakers sadly
@@alanrossreviews 😆 i know - me neither at the moment
I bought 2 minirig minis and a mini sub based on Z reviews video and your review.
I still use them as desktop office speakers but I don't see myself upgrading.
They are very pricey and the new versions just don't seem to be worth it.
after i did this video i again had issues running sub with the mk4! so yeah stick with what works!
I hope they launch a sub4 thats bluetooth and one volume for the sub output as line 1 seems too flat and 2 seems over kill.
i just want less punch and more extension but im not too hopeful.
@alanrossreviews Plus genre of music is key. Gain 2 can be insane and I've blown 2 subs! Both replaced free though.
ha!
Sub 4 set for March 2025
Inside info or press release? @@tz7813
I can never get mk3 working right in TWS mode or pair BT consistently so i gave up on them. I'm hesitant going with MK4. ☹️
@@ehong123 mk4 so far for me does work fine in tws mode except you have to turn them both on within 5 seconds. 🤷
Я подключаю Minirig MK4 к Onix 7. И неплохо получается без сабвуфера Minirig. При подключении к Sony XG-500 происходит дефект. Sony отрубается на громкости 73% и не играет. В паре с B&O A1 старым тоже неплохо получается на низкой громкости. A1 добавляет низких басов.
Мой Minirig MK4 имеет некоторые дефекты по громкой связи и кое-еще в чём. Поддержка обещала мне рюкзак в подарок и скидку на второй. Но этого я так и не дождался. На связь никто не выходит....
проблемы с миниригами, кажется, я постоянно слышу. У меня тоже есть проблемы.
I tried a Mk4 and ended up returning it and selling my full set of Mk3s with subwoofer. Not knowing if/when a Mk4 sub is coming isn’t good enough for me, and a wired system just isn’t always practical.
I’ve temporarily gone with a Boom 2 for now, but I don’t see how these companies with all that R&D can’t just get a speaker right.
@@sunilbanga4623 you mean soundcore or minirig? Minirig being a one man outfit. Soundcore however are simply scrapping every inch of margin they can and trading off the value for money name they made for themselves.
Ive been waiting for months for you to do this at last.. the Rollout was terrible the worst.. god knows what there thinking.. not even a mk4 sub.. terrible how they go about putting out stuff..
even their attitude with me stinks!
@@alanrossreviews That's Terrible.. that company definitely has issues
I always want to try this little speaker, but I always wonder 150 british pound for each,? 299 CAD? how much if you purchase pair with sub? 1k? SO , TELL ME , what else can we get with that much money?😅
yeah the value goes down each year there is no significant change in sound quality. i cant really say its a great buy any more for most people.
23 mins, yeah I can hear the difference. Bass is only slightly less on mk 4 which is overall brighter. @75% mk 4 sounds a bit bright. I prefer the mk 3 sound. @100% they both sound shit. Hence the sub though right? Nothing is going to sound good at 100%. My Denons don't. Speaking of which Alan, both need new batteries! Fancy doing a battery change instruction video for the Denon 250bt?
not really 🤣 and that bass was after a bit of tweaking by them for the first firmware. and i want to know why early versions have a different reset mode. what changed from early versions, im already pissed that as an early buyer at full price features including the app were not ready. They sent me a link to get app going but really it should have been out in the wild at launch. They really werent happy with my feedback.
👊respect
🙏👍😎
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@@laranja3 🤩
That Minirig platform looks like it was designed by separate committees. Why is the subwoofer's diameter different to the main speakers? Why do they have to be wired together, rather than use pairing? Why isn't the subwoofer provided with attachments that could be used to physically connect the subwoofer and two satellites together so they can be carried as one unit?
😝 i dunno! the subwoofer is ported of course so needs some volume. as for attachments, cradles and feet etc Minirig have missed a trick here as there is already a third party market selling stuff for this. honestly after 5 years im not sure why we got this mk4 like this.
Two mini rigs or two Bose flex?
well the flex can go places the minrigs cant go. for sound the minirigs for practicality the flex.
Я пришел сказать по-русски: Спасибо!
I could never be a fan of this serie somehow...
it does come alive as a modular system but you pay a premium for it, one on its own though a bit nah!
"normalsied"? :-) (@16:51)
yes its like normalising but not quite as normal 🤣