Seems like he's wasting his time with the music blaring. The music is muted by what he is supposed to listen to (engine, tires, scraping, etc.), and the sounds he should pay attention to (like the rest of the riders do) are muted by the music. What's wrong with listening to a healthy V-8 and gaging your throttle usage by listening to it, the tires, the rocks being kicked about, etc.?
Have to say that Jason Scherer did it best. It might not have been dramatic from a spectator perspective, but from the technical side of the equation doing it without a front locker was mint!! Kudos!!
Shannon and Cody did the best maximizing their vehicles, the brothers took the best/aggressive lines. Pretty cool to see all the different designs, ifs/irs vs straight axel.
What I saw? Solid axles still best in the rocks KM3s & Trail Grapplers both kick ass I have the 39” KM3s on my diesel JT. It has a trailing rear & long arm front on tons and damn near unstoppable in the rocks but the body is too big for this crazy stuff.
It seems to me like you drive an IFS truck much different than a solid axle. With a solid axle I tend to drive for the rear axle to have the best bite, but with the IFS rigs they seem to drive for front axle placement, and have really soft and flexible rear suspensions that follow along. I'm thinking that in a mixed terrain race like KOH IFS is the way to go. Strait up crawling I'm still going to give the nod to solid axles. That being said I really like how far these IFS rigs have come in the past few years. I could see fully independent suspension rigs ruling this race in a few more years. Just need to develop the parts and learn how to drive them.
I think you're right; if you watch almost every IFS car is lifting tires. Not such a big deal going downhill but trying to go up and that's no grip. But of course that's just for the slow technical stuff. The IFS guys are more than making up for that in the fast parts it seems. As they say, horses for courses.
The only rig shown here with an IRS was the Can Am UTV. In prior years, I've seen a couple of full sized vehicles with fully independent suspension. But it seems they don't fare as well. I see a couple of potential problems with A-arm suspensions. The A-arms start to tuck the wheel inboard quite a bit if there's a lot of extension during travel. Also, the CV joints have a limited angular range. An alternate design that may weigh too much and have too many breakable parts, would be if BOTH the differential floated (like a solid axle), AND the differential had an A-arm suspension attached to it, instead of to the frame. The result would yield tremendous articulation, roll control, spring rate variability, etc.
GREAT FOOTAGE!! I guess the prior years weren't challenging enough?? That's 'cause 'Kings Veto' makes the other ones, like 'Chocolate Thunder' look easy. Other than the UTV, none of the full sized vehicles had an independent rear suspension. A couple did in past years. I hoped that would prove advantageous - apparently not. Webb's music was annoying. Like his competition, he'd perform better listening to the engine, tires, scraping, etc. rather than trying to drown it out
Enjoy watching IFS vs straight axle. Both do well. I think straight axles is less expensive, maybe? But all this equipment is expensive. Don't bother racing this stuff if you can't afford it.
John Webb: Best tunes. First time I've seen/heard a race car with the stereo going.
Couple years ago I think he deliberately made a pit stop to replace a broken iPod. Dude needs his jams
Seems like he's wasting his time with the music blaring. The music is muted by what he is supposed to listen to (engine, tires, scraping, etc.), and the sounds he should pay attention to (like the rest of the riders do) are muted by the music.
What's wrong with listening to a healthy V-8 and gaging your throttle usage by listening to it, the tires, the rocks being kicked about, etc.?
@@gregparrott so true! Keeping the monster happy and healthy is the only music my ears would need
Both of the Gomez bro’s had a great line. But Shannons car is super tough! Also it took some skills to keep that can am together on that trail.
Have to say that Jason Scherer did it best. It might not have been dramatic from a spectator perspective, but from the technical side of the equation doing it without a front locker was mint!! Kudos!!
Shannon and Cody did the best maximizing their vehicles, the brothers took the best/aggressive lines. Pretty cool to see all the different designs, ifs/irs vs straight axel.
I was hoping to see more vehicles with an IRS. (There were a couple in prior years) But the only vehicle shown here with an IRS was the Can Am UTV
4468 w/Metallica for the win.
Absoluf*ckinglutely.
Were they blasting that out of that truck or was that a spectator near the camera guy?
@@wolfserker3179 out of the car. 4 speakers on the roof
@@martini1734 that's awesome
Thanks Tuba! Glad you made it out there. Best video I seen all week of koh22.
I think Raul Gomez did it best. Looks like the fastest too.
They all did a great job on this, nice to see someone got footage of Kings Veto!
Cody Addington picked the steepest route of the three. Good job.
Awesome footage. All trucks did amazing. The size of those boulders make them all look like r/c toys!
Erik Miller has a navigator that didn't help much and burned up time getting back in.
Agreed. He took WAY too long.
John Webb of course.... his came with a soundtrack.
John Webb, of course, because of the tunes. Otherwise gotta give it to the new king Raul
Heck ya, thanks for the awesome footage!! 🤙🏼
Nice work on the video. Thanks for adding in the names. Gotta give my vote to #59 Wicks. Way to go Eric!
Eric Wicks # 59 did a great job!
Shannon Campbell has the best mini-van.
Speed up the replay speed to 2x and it looks like a bunch of RC trucks, lol
OMG if I take this line do you think I will need maxtracks or a snorkel? Will I scratch my new wheels? 😍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🙈
cody addington get the award for most rocks slammed into lol
What I saw?
Solid axles still best in the rocks
KM3s & Trail Grapplers both kick ass
I have the 39” KM3s on my diesel JT.
It has a trailing rear & long arm front on tons and damn near unstoppable in the rocks but the body is too big for this crazy stuff.
966 Jason Blanton for sure looks the best!
I’m giving it to Tom Wayne’s he did real good and he didn’t let it eat and break. Nice finish Tom!
Thank you for putting the names on there lol
It seems to me like you drive an IFS truck much different than a solid axle. With a solid axle I tend to drive for the rear axle to have the best bite, but with the IFS rigs they seem to drive for front axle placement, and have really soft and flexible rear suspensions that follow along.
I'm thinking that in a mixed terrain race like KOH IFS is the way to go. Strait up crawling I'm still going to give the nod to solid axles.
That being said I really like how far these IFS rigs have come in the past few years. I could see fully independent suspension rigs ruling this race in a few more years. Just need to develop the parts and learn how to drive them.
id like to see a cut down rivian skateboard with rear steering & long travel do this competition. I have a feeling it would kick ass if geared for 40s
I think you're right; if you watch almost every IFS car is lifting tires. Not such a big deal going downhill but trying to go up and that's no grip. But of course that's just for the slow technical stuff. The IFS guys are more than making up for that in the fast parts it seems. As they say, horses for courses.
The only rig shown here with an IRS was the Can Am UTV. In prior years, I've seen a couple of full sized vehicles with fully independent suspension. But it seems they don't fare as well. I see a couple of potential problems with A-arm suspensions. The A-arms start to tuck the wheel inboard quite a bit if there's a lot of extension during travel. Also, the CV joints have a limited angular range. An alternate design that may weigh too much and have too many breakable parts, would be if BOTH the differential floated (like a solid axle), AND the differential had an A-arm suspension attached to it, instead of to the frame. The result would yield tremendous articulation, roll control, spring rate variability, etc.
GREAT FOOTAGE!!
I guess the prior years weren't challenging enough?? That's 'cause 'Kings Veto' makes the other ones, like 'Chocolate Thunder' look easy.
Other than the UTV, none of the full sized vehicles had an independent rear suspension. A couple did in past years. I hoped that would prove advantageous - apparently not.
Webb's music was annoying. Like his competition, he'd perform better listening to the engine, tires, scraping, etc. rather than trying to drown it out
Enjoy watching IFS vs straight axle. Both do well. I think straight axles is less expensive, maybe? But all this equipment is expensive. Don't bother racing this stuff if you can't afford it.
How come they so hard to find ?
Great spot!
Miller did it the best!
Great Video!!
No Cameron??
Rad video!
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Shannon then Cody
HELLL FARKIN YEH!!!! SIK
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well the break squealing about drove me crazy
Drivers constantly pre load their brakes for better throttle control and suspension pre load aka why the brakes always squeak
Ya it drove my wife's dog so crazy I had to turn it down
Marcos Fucking Gomez did it best! Raul second for sure.
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