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- There are some big differences between “Little Fires Everywhere” book & miniseries. For this list, we’ll be looking at the most significant changes made in Hulu’s adaptation of Celeste Ng’s 2017 novel. Our countdown includes Izzy’s rebellion, who started the fire, more backstory for Elena, and more! MsMojo ranks the biggest differences between “Little Fires Everywhere” book and miniseries. Do you think these changes were for the best? Let us know in the comments!
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Have you watched Little Fires Everywhere? What did you think? Let us know below!
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yes it was amazing especially the ending
Could've been more dramatic.
I really enjoyed it, especially the dramatic revelation of who started the fire! 🔥😮
this seriously there that you guys are talking about the black woman of the white woman looks like a Brazilian woman a Globo soap opera where the maid who is black single with her daughter has the possibility to stay with the white blonde boss with four children and a relapsed husband looks like a Brazilian soap I'm sorry I see these crap even Brazilian soap operas from Globo
Leaving out the trauma of Izzy's birth is a major omission. Yeah, TV version makes it clear Elena didn't want a fourth child, but in the book, Izzy is premature and kept in the NICU for a long time. Elena can't even touch Izzy for weeks, and the book makes us think about what happens to the mother-daughter bond when they do not experience any physical contact after the child is born. It adds another layer to their relationship because Elena in the book is terrified about something happening to Izzy, which is why she tries so hard to control her.
Nels Highberg and this doesn’t support the agenda of bashing the white mother...
@@ubergeraldine there’s plenty of other stuff to use against Elena (who isn’t a good person to begin with). Leaving out the trauma of Izzy’s birth might make her sympathetic, but it wouldn’t make her a good person
Whuoo, i just watched the show. Really good show. And knowing about Izzi staying at the hospital makes me understand the analogy about the bird and izzy. When her brother says that poor bird, the mother won't want it after a human touches it.
Bang brain!
@@ubergeraldine Izzy being born premature and kept in the NICU for a long time might explain why mother and child have not a secure attachement from the get go, it doesn't justify the the white mother's behaviour afterwards. Not having a secure mother and child attachement is the responsability of the mother. In my opinion she's not a good mother nor a good person.
@@ubergeraldine cope
This show was very intriguing and the younger casts are very talented great show
They were all very good. Especially the girl that played Izzy
Actually in the book Elena did want Izzy. Even though the kids suspected Izzy was an unwanted pregnency (hence the way Elena treats her) she was actually very much wanted, making the reason for their rocky relationship way more complicated.
As a fan of the book, I loved the show! They did a good job :) I loved getting more of how Elena was and Mia really being vocal because in the book I felt like she didn't say as much as she could've. So very good! I wish it didn't end. In my top 10 for sure.
Making Mia and Pearl black makes sense for our time right now, because it allows them to bring more current issues into the conversation of the story. A lot of the events in the novel, like Mia helping out in the Richardson home, don't really have a negative context since Mia is framed as more of a down to earth free spirit and we get to see her back ground in both the art world and service industry. Everything is much more based in both class and culture, with some race components, like Lexi and Brian's relationship and Bebe's struggles. Ultimately, we see a lot more of deconstructing white privilege than we do of black struggles and queer characterization.
It’s impossible to put race and class aside as they are determining factors in our lives. They’re not differing opinions, they shape our lives in a racist, classist and sexist society. We didn’t choose them so we don’t get a choice in putting them aside. Putting them in the same sentence as pride is ridiculous
That what I thought!
Exactly
That's interesting, for us people who are not from the US is difficult to understand why this kind of shows always tell that kind of stories. Specially when you're from a country where racism is very very uncommon. Thanks
@@KaioMichiru22 Lmao if you are talking about Europe it's very racist in ignorance. They just do it behind closed doors.
Anybody else think Mia's character in the show was more standoff-ish? Than in the book? Mia wasn't as harsh and strict with pearl when she rebelled, and the scene with her and lexie was way different after her abortion. She was harder to like in the show, loved her in the book though.
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I loved that the race of Pearl and Mia was left undefined it the book. I kept waiting for a reveal, but it never came, making you analyze situations in two different ways: What would that mean if they are black? What if they are white? But it is impossible to do that in a show and making the Warrens black makes the most sense as Elena and Mia are set up to be opposites, especially in reagrds to privilege.
Edit: Found this quote from Ng: "“Initially, I had wanted to write [Mia and her daughter, Pearl] as people of color. I thought of them as people of color, because I knew I wanted to talk about race and class, and those things are so intertwined in our country and in our culture … But I didn’t feel like I was the right person to try to bring a black woman’s experience to the page.”"
Just finished watching It, I must say it has so much deep representation and It’s not an easy watch but It’s a decent mini series...
i watched it and then listened to the book and they are both incredble! worth the time. the metaphor of little fires (actual fires and fires lit between people arguing) is so good
LOVED Little Fires Everywhere!
I liked the show, but it was melodramatic. Elena and Mia didn’t have the massive hate in the book. Mostly I liked Elena and Izzy’s relationship in the book. It made sense at the end when knowing how Izzy came into the world and how Elena was just scared to lose her, but that she hated her own daughter
Actually as I remember the book never hinted Pearl and Mia as white. In fact I remember something about Pearl’s hair being black and very curly; but I’ve read the book like 2 years ago so not 100% sure.
I just read it recently and it doesn't really give Mia or Pearl a race necessarily or really hint in one direction or another. Pearl has greenish hazel eyes but she could still be mixed, so idk
@Dylan Jimenez-Morales Izzy still wished for Mia to be her mother in the TV series. I’m over 40 and can remember plenty of times in my youth that I wished I was related to people of different races. I appreciate this love for Mia wasn’t removed from the TV show.
They never mantion it, but they definitely would if they were. Like during one of the first time Pearl were at Richardson's. They were talking about race, Lyzz said something about her bf, but no one ever said anything or even looked at Pearl.
A romantic relationship with a teacher? Yeesh. When I heard the word “relationship”, I thought of something like the relationship I have with one of my 9th grade teachers. It’s like mother- daughter in my case. And I love her so much.
Yes! That upset me so much when they put it in the show. In the book, Pauline (and her partner) are so amazing to Mia. In the show, it's gross.
I'm sad that they made it into a sort of romantic relationship in the show. It felt a lot like Pauline had a power position over her and Mia just went with it because she looked up at her, was a virgin and didn't knew who she was, what she wanted etc.
But Mia wasn't from a poor family, though. She had a mother and a father and she lived in a nice house. To hear Mia spin it, she was living in a shack.
Mia was renting out her womb in order to afford her education, clearly her and elena experienced two very different lives, money being apart of that. Which was her point
Thriller well in the series I think Mia is the biological mother because they didn’t use Mrs Ryan’s egg and they just used the fathers dna.....her and pearl are still mother and daughter even though what Mia did was wrong either way. Idk
Mia was disowned though she had to be a surrogate so she could stay in school..
Mia definitely isn't middle class in the book. They struggled in a away Elena's family never did.
LittleEva Great point! Playing the poverty card is disgusting in an affluent society where people have choices. This lends another dimension to the lack of consciousness woke people display.
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I just finished the season! It was amazing!! BUT I was left with a BIG DOUBT. Why did Mia hated Elena from the beggining? When she started to burn a photo of her, I suspected that she wanted revenge from something that happend in the past. But at the end I was even more confused. Can someone help me?
Look up the word “microaggressions” and how it relates to race and you’ll understand. also it was more about burning away the facade rather than the person herself
I agree that Mia acted negatively and distant from the very beginning. I think it's because she felt sort of annoyed by Elena (because she is annoying with all her talking), she felt like Elena was trying too hard to be "besties" while Mia feels like thy have hardly anything in common. I think she even felt a little threatened by her because Elena was already presenting herself as believing she was better than Mia and belittling her (in Mia's eyes) maybe.
I feel like after they met a few times, and especially after the bookclub, they gotten to know each other better. I wish they would have been able to continue that. Instead, Mia suddenly makes it about Bebe and May-Lin. Because she already feels like Elena would stand in her way. And of course Elena can't put her suspicions aside, believe someone on their word or just not be so nosy all the time. Which is what killed their possible friendship from her side. It was like she didn't trust her from the beginning, but felt sorry for her. Felt like she should take care of them, but at the same time thinking that something must be wrong. She should have just put all that energy in her kids.
I think they both killed all the possibilities by behaving suspiciously, unfriendly and over-friendly and trying to be controlling over way too many things that were out of their control. If they would have been truthful from the start, it wouldn't have gone this way.
Someone already hinted at It micro-aggressions. Mia was on a blank canvas with Elena until she brought up the integrated schools, my mom was on the board, renting to someone who could enjoy It, lowering the rent, letting her work in the house.
Those are like little jabs. She didn’t need to bring up the schools, or being on the board, or adjust the rent. She didn’t have to ask Mia to work for her, but she did because she felt like Mia was helpless and Elena was using her rich resources to help out a helpless black lady.
The issue is when did Mia ever say “I need help”. And that’s where the issue was.
The book isn't as woke as the TV series. In addition to making some characters gay as well as Mia and Pearl black, which wasn't done in the book, you also have the ending where Mia vindicates herself while Elena and her rich white family are decimated.
Sorry but peoples identities and races are not being woke. Calling a tv show woke for having gay and black people existing is just so disgusting
When researching interviews that author did she actually wanted to make them a person of color. Also in the book their race is unspecified.
I need to catch up. I binges through the first 4 episodes in one day 😂 I love Izzy's character in the show
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What is most interesting to me is that Celeste No, the author, was a Chinese immigrant. Her parents were high achievers in the US but does the woke construct of white privilege apply? By not making Mia and Pearls ethnicity clear in the book I think she was making a very pointed observation.
I thought Mia and Pearl were Black in the book? Isn't that the reason for the connection between her & Lexie's boyfriend & why he ultimately ends up breaking up with her? I only listened to the audio book so I may have missed something.
They’re supposed to be white in the book from what I hear
Their race was ambiguous in the book.
mjb482 i thought in the book they said Pearle blushed so red she looked like a tomato.
Ldbrin1 Hmm now that you mention it I do recall that. But it also said Mia had curly or frizzy hair.
It can be interpreted multiple ways, but they definitely didn't make it an emphasis like in the show. A lot of the differences in the book feel like they're written more to be class and culture based. I feel like the only overt racial characterization in the book was Bebe which makes sense since the author is Asian.
Great list.
Putting race and class aside 😂😂😂
Crossing my fingers for a season 2!
There isn't going to be a season two it was one season show!
There are so many lose ends!!!! Bibi is on the run with her baby, Elenas marriage needs to be explored, the aftermath of the fire with the kids should be addressed and we need to see pearls journey with discovering her family as well as izzie runaway journey. Also we needs to see Lexys Yale stuff there is a lot to explore!!!
And Mia confronting pearls bio father there is. A bunch to address here
@@robostripez no way, the story is over. if you’ve read the book you should know that. trying to further the series would just be a desperate money grab, the whole point is that there shouldn’t be closure
@@cateculpovich2176 if that is the authors wishes I will happily respect their decision. But if there translation into television inspired the author to continue the story you should validate it
Loved this show
The book was great!! And the show high key killed my vibe with all of the changes.
what happens in the end with pearl? did't get that in the show. did she stay with her parents?
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Great acting by all the actors.... This series is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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wow... so your interpretation is that they could've been friends? you really think that would've been optimal? that's the most elementary.
I honestly think they could have been. If Elena would have kept to herself a little more and thought about the things she said a little better. And if Mia didn't respond so negatively and distant to everyone who was trying to be nice to her.
Mia is an infinitely better mother than Elena. All families have their issues, but at the end of the day Mia and her daughter's relationship is based on unconditional love. Elena's love for her kids is so conditional it's not even funny...
Who ever said the 90s were an innocent time? Are you confusing them with the 50s somehow?
The 50s were very very far from innocent!
What does "innocent times" even mean? I didn't get it when she said them. When were times ever innocent?
@@cornetemelyne98 There were times when people didn't say things out loud, but that doesn't mean you didn't do them.
@@moonlily1 Sorry haha I really still doesn't get what she means by "innocent times"... Is that an actual expression? I'm not native so maybe that's why I don't get it
@@cornetemelyne98 I can't remember the context of her saying it was "innocent times". I think she meant less progressive, I just wouldn't use "innocent" as a euphemism for "bigoted". Was it about the issue of homophobia? Not understanding gay stuff doesn't make a person "innocent" however. I agree that no, there were never any "innocent" times. It was a dumb thing to have said.
Reading this book made me feel like I'm making my trough the Cesspool of humanity. When we stir in this, all we get is stink
Who else feels like #2 should be #1
In my understanding the story is more about lies, then about rassim.
But the critics are about rassim.
Sounds like this is one of the rare times the show is better than the book.
I defintely think so. I read the book after watching the show and definitely prefer the show.
I read the book first and still found the show to be much more dynamic.
This is one where if you haven't read the book, you won't be disappointed.
Definitely. I read the book first but I liked the show better. Especially, the ending
I’m not finished with the book yet, but it has a completely different tone than the show. The show is so starkly different....it’s not what I expected at all. The book is at least relatively realistic. The show kind of sucks comparatively.
This book was so gripping from the beginning to the end so my expectation towards this show seems to be pretty high. However, I am well-aware that movie/show adaptations rarely outperform the original book. This rule applies in most cases(some exceptions do exist).
I don't even subscribe Hulu anyway, why bother watching it?
I quite liked it, even after reading the book, apart from some of the canges mentioned here (mainly that Mia had a romantic relationship with Pauline and the reason for Elenas strained relationship with Izzy). It felt less suspenseful, but very delicate in the way it showeed the characters and their motivations
Even though I liked how the ending went down, I wish the art pieces in the book showed up in the miniseries.
i read the book long before i watched the tv show and found the tv show to be much better. i felt like they gave pearl and izzy especially more character development and so i disliked izzy in the book but loved her in the miniseries!!
I have seen a a few comments saying that BeBe was wrong. I disagree Elena threatened Mia and bribed BeBe. Plus she was barely doing it to help Linda. Just to get back at Mia. Also no matter what the baby was BeBe’s. She knocked on the fire-station and left while she got a job. Linda’s adoption had not been finalized. No matter what I would side with Team Mia, BeBe and Izzy
I agree Bebe did what she thought was best. And after not eating for over a week, you can't be all clear about the things you do. I understand that it was all in a moment of panic. Although I do feel like she could have gone and knocked on someone's door. Even if she had to knock on several doors. I do believe there would have been someone that would have helped her. There were other options than leaving her in he freezing cold.
But again, lack of judgement due to lack of food and sleep etc. makes for a big understanding for the choice she made. And I do agree she should have May-Lin back.
The whole point is that neither Bebe nor Linda are at fault. I loved how the book managed to make me feel sympathy for all - Bebe, Lina, Mia, and the couple who had a family. All of them made logical decision within their possibilities. The fault lies in the system. Had Bebe had acess to the necessary ressources and help to deal with being a single mother none of this would have ever happend. Same if Mia would have had the opportunity of going to college without essentially selling her body.
I did not want to watch this, as I don't like either one of these women much, but i am liking it.
Mia was my least like character. A kick in the teeth to surrogate parents 😏
So fed up with hearing the blame on mothers for lack of communication with children. We read our kids without words. We develop this skill from their births. Children need to individuate as they get older and usually DO NOT WANT to hear what their mothers have to communicate. The skill is, as a Mum, to just be receptive; a feminine quality.
When is season 2 coming out.... cant wait
Lol I hope this is sarcasm
don't understand why bebe is so angry. She left her daughter out in the snow to die.
Were we watching the same show? Bebe didn't leave may ling to DIE they were starving to death the apartment was freezing she was an illegal immigrant who couldn't have gotten help. She knew that her baby would have died had she stayed with her longer so she left her somewhere where someone would find her and help her and then she found a more stable job and someone like mia to help her and decided to get her baby back
@@negargeliyerdi3766 if i were her i’d feel lucky my child is still alive and found a loving family who can give her future. Instead she is so angry from the beginning acting like they stole the child.
@@Jesstp the adoption wasn't even finalized and they already changed the girl's name and acted like she's this monster without trying to understand why she had to leave the baby (like most of the fans to be honest. )
On top of that they sent someone to BUY her CHILD.
Besides wth is this materialistic view no one in the show's fandom can make a better case to why they are better for may ling other than BEBE IS POOR!!! What so only rich, white people can have happiness and children?
@@negargeliyerdi3766 I just stated my opinion if i were bebe. Well everyone has different opinion and thats ok.
@@Jesstp I understand where you're coming from maybe I would have done the same as you said but there is an unfathomable pain in losing a child so I understand why bebe decided to fight for her daughter she left her because they were both starving and tried to get her Back once her income was more stable.
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I don't necessarily like mia's personality. But I can understand it.Elena is a bored rich woman, busy body who can't focus or her own unhappy life for involving herself in things that have nothing to do with her. As for the trail, Bibi deserved to have a friend on her side no matter who it was, mis just happened to be it. Yes I like to change the TV series. I think Elena's children imploding on her was the best revenge that Mia had nothing to do with for the most part
Is this from Netflix?
kenisha Diamond Hulu
“Whether you’re team Elena or team Mia”
Excuse me?!?!? Elena is a racist villain. Who would side with her in any case.
Both of them were unlikable honestly.
brenda wanjiku Mia wasn’t as warm in the show as she was in the book, but she wasn’t unlikeable. She has a lot of hard circumstances and did the best she could. she was nice to Izzy and pearl loved her
Me a black single woman, some parts of her character were so villainous but understandable.
@@thriller2213 racial bias doesn't have to be evil, it can be out of "good intentions". White saviors are real. White fragility is real. Elena is racist. There are just degrees of racism.
Don't think she really sees it that way. don't think she thinks Mia is bad because of the colour of her skin. I think she thinks that Mia is bad because she doesn't agree on the same choices and that she doesn't see from the same points of view.
Whereas Mia actually judges for more than just Elena's disagreeable actions. She already doesn't like Elena because Elena tries to be overly nice.
They are both wrong, and only Mia gets out of this looking better because she did end up trying to do the right thing.
Mia is an awful, selfish character....
Overall, the book is a very well constructed presentation of cliches... I do wonder what progress women have made by focusing on their vaginas... this is like saying men have their brains in their pants... Have you ever studied the fact that all mammals have a vagina and one of the reasons we struggle with being embarrassed is that we struggle to realise we are spiritual but in animal bodies? The feminists may as well intellectualise the rear ends of baboons... there’s no difference.
Kerry Washington was awful in this series. I don’t dislike her or anything like that, but her acting was just off.
I agree, I cringed every time she was on. She was not convincing.
Certainly wasnt the book version. Adding black characters and gay characters was not in the book. Hollywood doing their own thing in this movie.
Cause nobody wants another all white white point of view wow is me series or movie. It’s narcissistic and gross. Get with the times
@@mikeparez exactly
They changed too much just to fit stupid agendas. My biggest problem though is they made Mia too old, or at least chose too old looking of an actress
Felt forced just to make "political points".
I actually preferred the show in many ways, but changing Mia's sexuality didn't make sense to me. I actually liked that she had never had a sexual relationship so when it came time to talk to Pearl about it she couldn't. It gave some depth to her character. I also thought Celeste Ng's description of Mia's photos at the end was so detailed and beautiful. I didn't like the town in flour art piece.
I think the actors are perfect. The only thing I didn't like was that they changed Mia's sexuality. It made me feel like Pauline was acting a bit predatory in seducing a student that looked up to her so much. The powerdynamic of the whole relationship etc. I liked the felling of motherhood way better in the book. Also fits better in this story that is centred on mothers and motherhood etc.
What agendas ?
@@Elizabeth-uu5tv I don’t think they changed mias sexuality from the book. I listened to it recently and when in the chapter about mias childhood when she first started photography they mentioned her parents thought it was just a phase like liking boys and other things. So I thought it was implied.