The price isn’t that good for someone starting out in this scale.. well worth the price though for someone looking into a high end 1/28. After motor and esc, the kit is $450+ before upgrades. MiniZ is a better option for someone wanting to start in the smaller scale class
Great to have you pop down, shame the weather spoilt the turnout, so much for a Summer Slam (the date did get pushed back I am aware of the seasons 😂) We’ll have to put a Winter Warmer event on over the Xmas period maybe 🤔
I'd never thought you would cover this scale of racing, as you had previously mentioned that the Kyosho Mini-Z's weren't your cup of tea. But, now that you have your hands on a dedicated 1/28 scale lipo chassis, you're not going to be disappointed! Here in the U.S., we have a few classes we race in. The 2500kv motor is a good place to start, then as you get better, 3500kv, and then mod (where the sky is the limit). I'm sure the fine people at the club you attend can suggest the right class to begin with and obviously what you need. You alluded to the tolerances of all the parts at this scale. That also applies to driving! Once your car is built, you'll want to pair it with at least a mid range or high end transmitter. And then once on the track, you'll need to adjust (reduce) your steering dual rate / end points. The RX28's steering is super responsive and the track layouts will require fast reflexes and a very nuanced driving style. As a result, with enough practice (stay in the middle of the track), your reaction times and reflexes will improve, and 1/10 racing will seem like a cakewalk. Tire prep is essential. There are tire truers to shave off the tires, but there are also tires that don't require trimming. You may need to glue the sidewalls if you begin traction rolling, after reducing the steering end points. One downside to these kits from Reflex, GL, Atomic etc., is that the pieces are so tiny! The instruction manuals are online pdfs, but if you need extra help, there are TH-cam videos out there of the assembly of such kits. Reflex is a good brand out of the box because you don't really need anything else to enhance it. With other brands, some of the hop ups are pretty much required, driving the overall cost up. I hope you enjoy this scale enough to perhaps cover your progress, similar to your 1/10 buggy racing series.
Those little cars are seriously impressive. Part of me would love to try one, I just cannot afford to pay out 400-odd quid for one. I'll probably start with a Mini Z and possibly work my way up....
They handle great!!! I would buy one!! Only problem there is no place to race. We had a track years ago. We raced HPI RS4 micro. They handled great too.
Yep, not sure what WLtoys is thinking. Looks like it’s trying to cut costs as much as possible to make more profit but have gone too far, especially with the shocks. Basically it performs more like toy grade now
Interesting. I was blown away with the 4WD 😮 I know Mini-z AWD existed but it's more like a plastic thing. Anyway, can't wait to see that machine on the track 👍🤝
I understand what you're trying to say, but I think honestly the OG Kyosho mini-Z is the Tamiya. Great fun little cars, you can spend a ton of money uprading them, but at the end of the day buying a different brand will get you a better can for less money. The GL cars are generally competive, especially at the local level.
@@ijdod You're right, Kyosho Mini-Z is the Tamiya as it's a basic chassis with some strong design limitations. And like Tamiya, we actually cater for minimally upgraded cars. Not sure who to compare GL to then - the cars are useless out of the box and not competitive with any other chassis without dumping money into them.
Perhaps some of those not-quite-B-list car brands that are cheap and not great not terrible (from a performance level, anyway)? Say perhaps 3Racing? I like the mini-Z, but I hate the NiMH AAA batteries. There's a reason we moved to lipo ages ago.
Same as every other racing RC series but with a much higher difficulty in manufacturing. Big = expensive, small = cheap is only a factor of raw material volume costs. FYI when it comes to RC's, that's negligible. The cost is in design, testing, tooling and production numbers. The higher the precision, the harder it is and that costs more money.
@@RCKickschannel lmao! They're over 450 Euro. NOT RTR. Just for a roller. You still have to buy electronics. I understand the quality concept. But don't expect a lot of people to jump into these. Especially when the Mini-Z are sub $200. Seems like a major rip off, to me. 💯🤷♂️
@@Wanted1069can’t really compare an apple to an orange! If cost was a driving factor then yes buying a Mini-Z would make sense, just like buying a Fiat rather then a Ferrari to get you from A to B but sometimes that’s not enough and we crave something a little more exquisite. It’s for a niche market yes but in terms of rip off there’s more profit margin in a mass produced Mini-Z than there is in the likes of a Reflex RX28. Horses for courses 👍🏻
They are, and none of these small cars are cheap. Reflex is on the spendy side of the class, though. Mini-Z is a different beast. They're a fun entry class, but once you do down the upgrade rabbit hole they get spendy fast. At that point, the lipo classes start to make more sense quickly.
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they look epic, makes me want to get one!!
Morning Kev. Well worth a look.
Do it you will be so impressed with the quality of the machining of the parts, makes most other rc stuff a bit of a joke.
Speed run!😂
Max popped in to see us a couple of weeks ago he seemed impressed
It's kind of like what we all wished scalextric was actually like when we were kids.
😂 😂 Exactly.!!
I got one! RX28SE 1gen. Absolutely love it.
Great to meet you, if you’re ever down this way with it stop by for a few laps. You’re in for a real surprise when it’s up and running!
Amazing detail
Wow ! These things look amazing, can't believe how good the price is! Your poor eyes building it, you will need some jewellers glasses. 😂
The price isn’t that good for someone starting out in this scale.. well worth the price though for someone looking into a high end 1/28. After motor and esc, the kit is $450+ before upgrades. MiniZ is a better option for someone wanting to start in the smaller scale class
Awesome track too!!
Great to have you pop down, shame the weather spoilt the turnout, so much for a Summer Slam (the date did get pushed back I am aware of the seasons 😂)
We’ll have to put a Winter Warmer event on over the Xmas period maybe 🤔
Cool , almost like little slot cars going rc . And as a rc guy I do like these little beasts . By the way , greetings from Sweden folks . . . 😎
Did forget to mention . I'm also an old slot car guy , that's why I did mention slot cars . . . 😉😎 .
Nice one Gav.!! 👍 👍
Too finicky for my poor eyes & sausage fingers, though I can absolutely appreciate them.!! 👍 👍
wow they look awesome, I wish there was a club near me that ran them!!!
Where are you based there are a few clubs dotted around?
I'd never thought you would cover this scale of racing, as you had previously mentioned that the Kyosho Mini-Z's weren't your cup of tea.
But, now that you have your hands on a dedicated 1/28 scale lipo chassis, you're not going to be disappointed! Here in the U.S., we have a few classes we race in. The 2500kv motor is a good place to start, then as you get better, 3500kv, and then mod (where the sky is the limit). I'm sure the fine people at the club you attend can suggest the right class to begin with and obviously what you need.
You alluded to the tolerances of all the parts at this scale. That also applies to driving! Once your car is built, you'll want to pair it with at least a mid range or high end transmitter. And then once on the track, you'll need to adjust (reduce) your steering dual rate / end points. The RX28's steering is super responsive and the track layouts will require fast reflexes and a very nuanced driving style. As a result, with enough practice (stay in the middle of the track), your reaction times and reflexes will improve, and 1/10 racing will seem like a cakewalk.
Tire prep is essential. There are tire truers to shave off the tires, but there are also tires that don't require trimming. You may need to glue the sidewalls if you begin traction rolling, after reducing the steering end points.
One downside to these kits from Reflex, GL, Atomic etc., is that the pieces are so tiny! The instruction manuals are online pdfs, but if you need extra help, there are TH-cam videos out there of the assembly of such kits. Reflex is a good brand out of the box because you don't really need anything else to enhance it. With other brands, some of the hop ups are pretty much required, driving the overall cost up.
I hope you enjoy this scale enough to perhaps cover your progress, similar to your 1/10 buggy racing series.
Those little cars are seriously impressive. Part of me would love to try one, I just cannot afford to pay out 400-odd quid for one. I'll probably start with a Mini Z and possibly work my way up....
Wow so excited,
We ran the GL-Racing cars a few years ago. They are super agile, you barely have time to blink. 😆
So true!
They handle great!!! I would buy one!! Only problem there is no place to race. We had a track years ago. We raced HPI RS4 micro. They handled great too.
Mini z is super popular here in japan. Due to space.
First! Those look brilliant 😮
Hello
@@tuffy3637 hey 👋
Just saw your new video, I think it might be over for wltoys, the body is cool and all, but it's not supposed to be a shelf queen, it needs to perform
Yep, not sure what WLtoys is thinking. Looks like it’s trying to cut costs as much as possible to make more profit but have gone too far, especially with the shocks. Basically it performs more like toy grade now
@@RCKickschannel mhm, how much could it possibly cost to replace them with oil filled shocks
Haha, so $800 AUD for something no bigger than a phone. Insane. Micro technology!
Interesting. I was blown away with the 4WD 😮 I know Mini-z AWD existed but it's more like a plastic thing. Anyway, can't wait to see that machine on the track 👍🤝
GL Racing is the Tamiya of 1/28.
Buy basic chassis.
Then buy ALL the hopups.
I understand what you're trying to say, but I think honestly the OG Kyosho mini-Z is the Tamiya. Great fun little cars, you can spend a ton of money uprading them, but at the end of the day buying a different brand will get you a better can for less money. The GL cars are generally competive, especially at the local level.
@@ijdod You're right, Kyosho Mini-Z is the Tamiya as it's a basic chassis with some strong design limitations. And like Tamiya, we actually cater for minimally upgraded cars.
Not sure who to compare GL to then - the cars are useless out of the box and not competitive with any other chassis without dumping money into them.
Perhaps some of those not-quite-B-list car brands that are cheap and not great not terrible (from a performance level, anyway)? Say perhaps 3Racing?
I like the mini-Z, but I hate the NiMH AAA batteries. There's a reason we moved to lipo ages ago.
Bloody expensive little bastards!👀🫤
Same as every other racing RC series but with a much higher difficulty in manufacturing. Big = expensive, small = cheap is only a factor of raw material volume costs. FYI when it comes to RC's, that's negligible. The cost is in design, testing, tooling and production numbers. The higher the precision, the harder it is and that costs more money.
@@RCKickschannel lmao!
They're over 450 Euro.
NOT RTR.
Just for a roller.
You still have to buy electronics.
I understand the quality concept.
But don't expect a lot of people to jump into these.
Especially when the Mini-Z are sub $200.
Seems like a major rip off, to me. 💯🤷♂️
@@Wanted1069can’t really compare an apple to an orange!
If cost was a driving factor then yes buying a Mini-Z would make sense, just like buying a Fiat rather then a Ferrari to get you from A to B but sometimes that’s not enough and we crave something a little more exquisite.
It’s for a niche market yes but in terms of rip off there’s more profit margin in a mass produced Mini-Z than there is in the likes of a Reflex RX28.
Horses for courses 👍🏻
They are, and none of these small cars are cheap. Reflex is on the spendy side of the class, though.
Mini-Z is a different beast. They're a fun entry class, but once you do down the upgrade rabbit hole they get spendy fast. At that point, the lipo classes start to make more sense quickly.
Insanely expensive fora little car
A little too $$$$. Mini z doesn’t compare to that though..
Just when I thought I have everything RC that I could possibly want! Must. Not. Go. To. Shop.