This was a review full of positives and negatives. This was an enjoyable and honest video. It's quite frustrating to see the usual "all praise" reviews on TH-cam (we all know who they are) so this was a nice welcome change.
The Pellet Shop is my go-to armory for all my AEA needs. They have a lot of stuff other sites do not (I hate the words "Out of Stock") and prices are good. Bonus Tip: IMO you can't ever have enough ammo and mags. It is December 31, 2022. Currently The Pellet Shop is selling HP-series plastic mags for $20 each. That's a damn good price and lowest on the Net AFAIK. I liked that deal so much that I (figuratively) bit the bullet and bought 8 (behold the power of this Santa). With the two magazines that came with the airgun I now have 10 total. That comforts me.
Nice review and showcase of its capabilities Keith. I have the standard version 32" barrel .30 Challenger and it is super powerful and super accurate. Price point is definitely the strong point of the Challenger series. Dano winner made me a barrel band setup for it and that really turned the corner for it as I have the DonnyFL Emperor on it. At full power she still is too loud with the supersonic crack when shooting pellets but turned down to the 9 o'clock position it is quiet and a tack driver. I haven't chronograph tested at that position but it eyeballs some problem red squirrels at 35yards. Long barrel equals P.I.A. for anything other than bench- or rested shooting. I like your intentions for the model in your review. I am thinking a .22 or .25 version would be awesome for ratting and inside/tight work for pests of all types. Like your way man....it is always a good journey brother!
Thanks so much bret! And thanks for the insight on the challenger i was eyeing that line up as well. I am getting another carbine in 22 for the reasons you stated. Cant help myself lol
@@68Whiskey I have both the Challenger Bullpup and standard stock 24” .30 and it has amazed me how much power it puts out, accurately. The 24” barrel .30 is putting out standard .22 lr muzzle energy (not hv) with the 50gr pellets for at least two magazines (18)! I tried the FX hybrid slugs in it, and I didn’t get that great of groups with it, but Diablo pellets tightened the group from about a 2” circle to thumb sized with 18+ shots. I am no shooter 1721 or 68 whiskey, so thumb sized groups are impressive for me...
Would love to see your thoughts on the AEA Challenger .30 with the 32 inch barrel. Macabespeed and Shooter1721 gave some decent reviews, and it shows phenomenal adjustable power (I've shot one). Being an unregulated pcp, I imagine someone could gather dope on that Power Adjuster to dial in more consistent shots as the air res depletes. If any one could successfully pull this off, I bet you or Norm could.
I have the 30 cal HP-SS Plus, basically same gun with just a different tank. I have easily put over a 1,000 rounds through mine and it works great. Shoots pellets and slugs both easily. I have a red dot on mine as well. It is just a fun gun to shoot. I would rather shot it than my two 35 calibers. I get 4 magazines out of mine at full power. I turned it down slightly and I now get between 5 & 6 magazines before needing to refill. My only complaint and warning is the magazines. I let one slip out of my hand while loading it and the clear plastic piece spu around really hard and snapped into two pieces. So, I bought two more magazines to be on the safe side. I did manage to superglue the two pieces back together and it works now.
I had one slip out of my hand too, I thought it was going to break, for sure. I was lucky, but I need to buy some extras since it is bound to happen again and they have an incredible amount of tension in there. Might not be so lucky next time.
Excellent video. I really enjoy your FX videos. But its fantastic to see you showing other brands. I like many different airguns. I also like many different brands, from lower priced ones to the most expensive. Thanks for taking the time to show this. God bless you brother and your family. 🎯👍
Would make a great quad gun. Won’t hurt as bad when it gets scratched up compared to a 2K+ FX ,LCS, or many other high end guns. Been watching this brand for a couple years now and seems to be gathering momentum with air gunners. Waiting to see how parts, service, and how it holds up. Cool design for sure.
Mine just arrived yesterday, thanks for your review, mounted a CVLIFE red dot/green laser via 11mm-20mm adapter, was fortunate to buy 2100 rounds JSB in .30 @ Urah Air Guns, Really Happy!
Great review - New subscriber here (with bell ringing). My son was a 68W in the Army. He did four active, two reserve and now is an RN in an emergency room (thanks to GI Bill). I'm a long retired USAF MSgt and new to PCPs. I recently purchased the Benjamin Marauder pistol and now looking for my next PCP. I'll be saving up for the carbine - just can't decide between .25 or .30... Thanks for a great review. Best to you sir. Mark in Colorado.
@@68Whiskey Also, Dad was a PFC, USMC, Korean combat vet, 2 purple hearts. LASTLY, your review put me over the top for purchasing the AEA HP carbine in .30. Saving up now. Do you have any agreements that will let me credit you for the purchase? It will take a couple of months for me to save up and I'd like to help you if you have an agreement with sellers. Best to you. Mark in Colorado (soon to be Florida where people are more free).
many shooters lost part of their face & hand when the tank blow up. since this (tank 8:00) has no hand protection, any changes that the tank can blow up?
@@68Whiskey Yes i watch a lot of videos on youtube of rifle we just cant get so sometimes it is pointless me watching the videos as it is like putting the carrot in front of the donkey
being unregulated, how is the fps for the 30 or so rounds per fill? Does it fall off wicked? or not much at all towards the 20-30 shots? (I noted the first 0 shots it didn't deviate much at all- ) I note that their HP Varmint AIR RIFLE in .22 is about 70 fpe at muzzle- wow- that's hitting hard- almost what the FX impact can do fpe-wise for their .22- the HP Varmint AIR RIFLE in .22 is getting same FPE as my .25 eagle claw- That's huge- do you think the .22 HP would be accurate to say 100 yards? 150? or woudl it be pretty much an under 100 yard gun in your opinion? (I'm looking for a good hard hitting .22 for bench shooting at longer ranges- the FX woudl be awesome, but way too far out of my $ range)
It falls slowly and steadily over the shots. Not enough to effect anything under fifty or so. I think their bolt action guns are plenty accurate. But one thing to note i s relatively heavy trigger on most of them. So if you dont have good trigger control it can be hard to shoot them accurately. If you are good at trigger control no issues
@@68Whiskey thanks for the response.. darn, I was hoping you would say wasnt as good as it is lol, now I have to choose between the air venturi .22 and this model,in .22 lol 😆 I just did another test with my .25 eagle claw, and it starts out around 920 on 1/4 power for the hammer spring, good for a out 10,shots, but then drops pretty good amount to where I have to crank up power another setting at about 12 shot, then again around 22 shots or so, then again around 30, then around 36 or so as by now,it's dropping more than 10 fps after each shot right around the 25 shot count or so. Hard to keep,on target with drops that drastic, if I don't keep,increasing spring tension. It seems to be pretty consistent in those numbers I mentjoned- several, tests were right around the same results. I usually click up,a setting when it gets to 850, but that is over a 50 fps drop from where i started . Woild,like to find something with perhaps,just a drop of say 30 feet per second overall, without having to keep guessing on what tension setting for spring to use.
Keith, I am pleasantly surprised that you reviewed an AEA. You like short truck guns? Try the AEA HP SS semi-auto; I am hitting squirrels at 60 yards and with a shorter barrel!
Awesome KEITH11 what is the power on the 30? I have a leshy 2 ijn 25 .....lookin for a 30 semi........AQCTION SHOOTING FOR THE 68 WISKEY SHOOTING SCHOOL !!!
AEA has a 7.62 Terminator on preorder, 1,100+ FPS with 50gr, purportedly, in Semi Automatic with a 12rd magazine. I’m torn between one of those and the bullpup .457...
Did AEA stop production on these? I can't find much info on them at all and I recently seen one for sale on the forums. If they stopped production I'm afraid they may have also stopped support too...?
Thanks man. And to be honest i have no idea! I only shot the carbine so far. Id give bin at “the pellet shop” a call. He knows everything about these guns man
Just picked up this aea hp carbine in .22. I did not run into any issue filling up to 250 bar. I agree with the cocking concerns...I'm thinking of installing a gum rubber pad at the end where my thumb would rest for cocking. I particularly don't like being able to continue to fire on an empty magazine. The hammer should lock back. I own the Hatsan Bullmaster and Blitz semi-autos and love them. The Bullmaster is far too heavy but I love its design. The Blitz is pretty long but a little lighter than the Bullmaster. I bought the AEA due to its weight and folding stock. I wish it had a longer barrel (17 in instead of 13 or 14in).
I fully agree on locking back being the way to go. Its just not that kind of magazine. The lcs lets you fire dry. Hell the delta wolf lets you fire dry and it a gizallion dollars. Makes no sense to me. I like to know when im empty too
@@68Whiskey I was looking at what makes the Hatsan mags lock open and I see that the mag is slightly larger than AEA'S. Imagine adding one more section to the AEA mag but not drilling it out... That last spot would lock back the hammer! I might play around with an extra mag and fill in the 12th spot...I can live with 11 rounds if I can get the last shot hold open.
@@68Whiskey Of course, my friend. Maybe you could help me out with an issue I've been having with mine? Whenever I go to refill the gun it seems like the psi gauge is blocking the adapter from getting to where it needs to be in order to fill the tank. If you have any ideas I'd appreciate them greatly, thanks.
Was it the old guns that had quality control problems or do they still have quality control problems? The complaint is about the plastic ammunition holder why don’t they make a middle one?
Like you, I have some grand ideas swimming in my head, of what needs to be; tweaked, changed, augmented. The greatest inventions are always rather just improvements on an existing notions. The valve "locking" at such low pressures when 4500psi is available, means there's much more FPE available to be unlocked, even in such a short barrel. A major drawback of the direct gas cycling being used for the semi-auto function. Doesn't the air rifle world know, that the paintmarker world dropped mechanical cycling actions for electromagnetic cycling over two decades ago? So much room for an amazing mousetrap... I'm definitely getting one of the .457 versions of this "truck gun" though! Then again, I also had a tipman 68 when we were long past that technology too Aside from an antique 12gram .177cal Benjamin air rifle I had as a young man, my passion had always been firesticks. Then came paintball and a foray into high volume low pressure launchers (think Spud guns, but pnuematics and T-shirts)
I just ordered this gun from Utah air guns since my SK 19 has been delayed months now. I am wondering how to clean the gun? Do you need to remove the barrel completely? I was also wondering if a DonnyFL would work on this gun? Thanks for the help.
There is a donny adapter that makes it possible but it does lengthen the gun of course. I use a pull though cleaning system. I lock the action back with a screw driver bit installed in the breech.
@@68Whiskey Thank you, Just wondering how that gun is holding up. I ordered one from Utah and its been delayed but had reservations on it since I read some bad review.
Have tested a Leshy 2 from EdGun? Any thoughts on that vs AEA Carbine? I know the price point is different? Also curious on your thoughts of .22 in the AEA for primarily backyard and squirrel hunting vs the .30?
I think the 22 is a better choice for backyard no doubt. And i havent shot a leshy so i really cant comment. But i would expect it to be a nicer gun. For the price difference there should be no doubt about it
I’ve been waiting for that to come out. AEA seems to put out low priced but very nice guns. They have a bull pup in .30 I’d like to get, but damn, that semi would be a ton of fun. Great video as usual.
But yeah. For the power they put out, dang, both in .30 cal would be sweet. I’d have two .25’s and two .30’s. I think Shooter 1721 did a review on the Bullpup. I think that made my decision for me between the Hatsan Bully and the AEA. looking at the tank set up, I wonder if you could regulate it.
Just emailed Fox about this. I guess there’s a way to regulate this thing with a Huma regulator. Trying to get a price to have this thing set up with it regulated at 2800-3000 psi. Getting happier 😁
Nice! I have been looking at the AEA Challenger .357. Have you checked that one out yet? My other gun is an FX Crown .25, but it would be good to have a big bore with some real thump!
I don't have one and it a long story and I use to be a big aea fan but I'm still a little up set with them any ways you can regulate this gun so it more consistent than what it is and a lw barrel will be a lot more accurate mybe I'll get one day but for now I still going to hang off on buying one. Great video and review 👍👌✌️💯🎯🥂🇺🇸
@@68Whiskey - well with everyone pretty much using the Lothar-Walther barrels accuracy should be similar I want to think like that. Am I wrong thought wise about the guns
I believe the AEA carbine has the aluminum bottle and what you have there is an AEA carbine Assasin. The AEA carbine assasin comes with a carbon bottle and suppressor.
Agree, good for the $$. You will get comfortable taking it apart bc it does have some little snafus, but easy to service the rifle. Polishing the trigger parts and also replacing the trigger springs can get a crisper and lighter pull. Not too light though for semi auto.
I have the terminator the element and just sent back the SS pistol. Very accurate but there is some quality issues. For the money it’s a good value but I think they’re going to improve substantially overtime.
That's why I went with the Leishy 2. Quality issues of a Chinese air rifle is not worth it to save some money to me. Long-term reliability is more important.
@@68Whiskey Garbage Chinese air rifles. But good luck with them. There are better on the market for a little more money like the L2. I'd rather have reliability and serviceability then saving a little money up front. Just curious, do you have any Chinese made AR's laying around? Did you worry about the price when you bought them as well?
Can it function 125 grain slugs if you crank it up? It could be converted to single shot. As I saw where a fella was selling a .25 he converted. Nice critter getter.
Which slugs are good to use with this rifle? I inquired with a slug maker/rifle reviewer who sells slugs, and he wasn’t sure any of his offerings would work well.
My AEA is the same way with pressure. Cannot reach the recommended max pressure or it won’t cycle. Great and fun semi auto gun for the money. Mags could use a minor upgrade because the bolt beats up the pellet slots
I have the .25 carbine and it's great fun... You can shoot at full psi in bolt action. Then load the mag. Freakn awesome airgun. Strong enough to thru 2.5 coconuts with the husk on. And make sure she's all lubed up for proper mag cycles.
@@plove9136 did the same thing...only using a combination of SuperLube grease (bolt, probe, & bolt chamber) and Benjamin airgun oil (came with my Bulldog) everywhere else that moves. It's very important... I'm thinking the negative reviews on the AEA HP actions are attributed to NOT doing a thorough lube job
@@vetteconnoisseur9531 right on. Mine worked so much better... I didn't know the part names, but I can break it down and rebuild it np... Cool cool my friend. When my friend who hunts in the amazonjungles seen my target block after a clip; "WHOA!" is what he said.
Question? I've seen these being touted as possible home defense weapons. My question would be can these things be stored under pressure without bleeding off or damaging the gun?
Edgun Leshiy 2 in 30 cal is WAY WAY WAY more expensive but in my opinion is the best semi auto currently manufactured. Please tell me your opinion. Thank you😉
If there is i dont know about it. It is definitely stiff compared to the rifles im used to. But it does break clean when it breaks. Its perfectly fine to me knowing its dtiff when i go into it. I coukd see very young children having trouble with pulling it. Or new shooters that dont know trigger discipline. It reminds me of a service m16 trigger. Or a cop pistol trigger. Heavy. But clean. If that makes sense
I just got mine,but I can’t get the magazines to cycle. The did a few rimes, but now it’s just the first shot and then no more. To me the gun looks a lot like the new Brocock Ranger xr, almost to the letter.
Does anyone know if they fixed the filling pressure issue now? Is it still necessary to fill to the lesser fill pressure on new guns? Keith suggest not filling it up to max pressure.
Hey david. Im told that it was a rarity and other guns have no issues with the full fill. I did get another to test and filled al the way fine…..so im not sure
@@68Whiskey oh for sure, it’s a great AR training gun with the trigger that also feels like a stock AR. My biggest gripe is the ping in my right ear but over all it’s a fantastic little semi auto, best semi auto under $2000. Also try NSA slugs in it, my .22 version slings them very accurately.
It holds it till you shoot it out bud. A leaking pcp has a busted seal. All of my guns have air in them all the time. If you store them empty its bad for the seals
Dang it! Now I have to explain why I'm getting another airgun in the mail... Just ordered one from Utah Airguns with FX rings and the Element 4-16. They had .30 in stock.
@@68Whiskey Ran horrible with the Slugs. Just an FYI. Also my trigger failed today. Will not catch and pulls freely after ever shot then engages and fires. Its going back to Utah.
That is one bad ass simi auto 30cal AEA putting out real nice , if it was regulated it wouldn't jam up at full bottle pressure 😉 Great video and presentation nice shooting as allways -🎯
This was a review full of positives and negatives. This was an enjoyable and honest video. It's quite frustrating to see the usual "all praise" reviews on TH-cam (we all know who they are) so this was a nice welcome change.
Excellent. Im so glad you saw it that way. Thanks bro
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Yes you're absolutely right!😂👍👍👍👍👍
@@68Whiskey lmj.
thumbs down for saying HONEST.
The Pellet Shop is my go-to armory for all my AEA needs. They have a lot of stuff other sites do not (I hate the words "Out of Stock") and prices are good.
Bonus Tip: IMO you can't ever have enough ammo and mags. It is December 31, 2022. Currently The Pellet Shop is selling HP-series plastic mags for $20 each. That's a damn good price and lowest on the Net AFAIK. I liked that deal so much that I (figuratively) bit the bullet and bought 8 (behold the power of this Santa).
With the two magazines that came with the airgun I now have 10 total. That comforts me.
Nice review and showcase of its capabilities Keith. I have the standard version 32" barrel .30 Challenger and it is super powerful and super accurate. Price point is definitely the strong point of the Challenger series. Dano winner made me a barrel band setup for it and that really turned the corner for it as I have the DonnyFL Emperor on it. At full power she still is too loud with the supersonic crack when shooting pellets but turned down to the 9 o'clock position it is quiet and a tack driver. I haven't chronograph tested at that position but it eyeballs some problem red squirrels at 35yards. Long barrel equals P.I.A. for anything other than bench- or rested shooting. I like your intentions for the model in your review. I am thinking a .22 or .25 version would be awesome for ratting and inside/tight work for pests of all types. Like your way man....it is always a good journey brother!
Thanks so much bret! And thanks for the insight on the challenger i was eyeing that line up as well. I am getting another carbine in 22 for the reasons you stated. Cant help myself lol
@@68Whiskey
I have both the Challenger Bullpup and standard stock 24” .30 and it has amazed me how much power it puts out, accurately.
The 24” barrel .30 is putting out standard .22 lr muzzle energy (not hv) with the 50gr pellets for at least two magazines (18)!
I tried the FX hybrid slugs in it, and I didn’t get that great of groups with it, but Diablo pellets tightened the group from about a 2” circle to thumb sized with 18+ shots.
I am no shooter 1721 or 68 whiskey, so thumb sized groups are impressive for me...
How long can they be kept charged?
I'm impressed that a FX guy like you got one. I have one in a ten inch barrel 165cc it is impressive.
The quality of the build sold me. Had to try it. I like it alot as you can see lol
Cool stuff, glad to see you guys getting your hands on an AEA. I've got an HP SS in .25 and I grabbed a .30 barrel. Fantastic plinker.
Thanks man. Super fun. I have a 22 ordered already
Would love to see your thoughts on the AEA Challenger .30 with the 32 inch barrel. Macabespeed and Shooter1721 gave some decent reviews, and it shows phenomenal adjustable power (I've shot one). Being an unregulated pcp, I imagine someone could gather dope on that Power Adjuster to dial in more consistent shots as the air res depletes. If any one could successfully pull this off, I bet you or Norm could.
How long can they stay charged without damage?
I have the 30 cal HP-SS Plus, basically same gun with just a different tank. I have easily put over a 1,000 rounds through mine and it works great. Shoots pellets and slugs both easily. I have a red dot on mine as well. It is just a fun gun to shoot. I would rather shot it than my two 35 calibers. I get 4 magazines out of mine at full power. I turned it down slightly and I now get between 5 & 6 magazines before needing to refill. My only complaint and warning is the magazines. I let one slip out of my hand while loading it and the clear plastic piece spu around really hard and snapped into two pieces. So, I bought two more magazines to be on the safe side. I did manage to superglue the two pieces back together and it works now.
I had one slip out of my hand too, I thought it was going to break, for sure. I was lucky, but I need to buy some extras since it is bound to happen again and they have an incredible amount of tension in there. Might not be so lucky next time.
Excellent video.
I really enjoy your FX videos. But its fantastic to see you showing other brands.
I like many different airguns. I also like many different brands, from lower priced ones to the most expensive.
Thanks for taking the time to show this.
God bless you brother and your family. 🎯👍
Awesome thanks Heith. I like anything that hucks lead :)
My dad has had one of these for about a year. We are all really impressed with it.
Awesome. Me too. I was super impressed with the feel
I've had mine over a year but in 22.. they just dropped the 30 cal no?
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Would make a great quad gun. Won’t hurt as bad when it gets scratched up compared to a 2K+ FX ,LCS, or many other high end guns. Been watching this brand for a couple years now and seems to be gathering momentum with air gunners. Waiting to see how parts, service, and how it holds up. Cool design for sure.
I think they need better due diligence before each gun is sent out.
Air guns have come a long way since we were kids.
I got a hatsan blitz in .22, and that gun is a blast! The AEAs are looking pretty darn impressive.
They advance everyday man its crazy!
I just watched your cool video again. Zeroed in a pretty decent scope. They are very accurate, even rapid semi makes a nice group. Thanks bro.
My pleasure
Congratulations on rmac win the effort that you and Norm put into the sport is more work than fun for most people but that explains your success.
Thanks so much man! We do truly love this crazy sport!
Oh, forgot to add...check out the larger (knurled) bolt handle available from Bison Workshop...have one of those on its way also
To help with my cocking complaint!? Will do thanks man
Just back off the power wheel to 50%. It cycles fine on a full charge, plus more mags. Same accuracy. Proud owner of two HP's now.
Great review! I’m starting to give AEA a hard look. First the Zeus and now this!
Thanks brother. I know the Zeus is right up your alley!
@@68Whiskey Zeus the brick breaker kicks like mule.
Mine just arrived yesterday, thanks for your review, mounted a CVLIFE red dot/green laser via 11mm-20mm adapter, was fortunate to buy 2100 rounds JSB in .30 @ Urah Air Guns, Really Happy!
Awesome man!
Pretty neat. You taking that to RMAC for the speed round? Lol. Love the channel Keith.
Thanks man. And. Ummm. No. Definitely no. Lol
At 5:53 how many shots do you get in the green range your talking about ?
Great review - New subscriber here (with bell ringing). My son was a 68W in the Army. He did four active, two reserve and now is an RN in an emergency room (thanks to GI Bill). I'm a long retired USAF MSgt and new to PCPs. I recently purchased the Benjamin Marauder pistol and now looking for my next PCP. I'll be saving up for the carbine - just can't decide between .25 or .30... Thanks for a great review. Best to you sir. Mark in Colorado.
Wow awesome family service record! Thanks so much for your service!
@@68Whiskey Also, Dad was a PFC, USMC, Korean combat vet, 2 purple hearts. LASTLY, your review put me over the top for purchasing the AEA HP carbine in .30. Saving up now. Do you have any agreements that will let me credit you for the purchase? It will take a couple of months for me to save up and I'd like to help you if you have an agreement with sellers. Best to you. Mark in Colorado (soon to be Florida where people are more free).
Im a FX Guy,,,,,,but the durability,,,,,,i may check it out,,,thanks 68 whiskey
Me too bro. Me too lol.
Great vid!! Thank you!! Are the pellets fired from the mag? Or does the action inset the pellets into the barrel for each shot?
Thanks man. The probe seats each one as it cycles
@@68Whiskey Gotcha, thanks!! Keep up the great work!!
many shooters lost part of their face & hand when the tank blow up.
since this (tank 8:00) has no hand protection, any changes that the tank can blow up?
Not that i know of
Where is the data to support "the tank can blow up?"
Great review good to see you shooting something that is not a FX. It just a shame we cant get the AEA rifles in the UK Same old story.
Thanks man. That stinks about the uk limits. They are might powerful guns from what i hear. Not even on fac you cant get em?
@@68Whiskey Yes i watch a lot of videos on youtube of rifle we just cant get so sometimes it is pointless me watching the videos as it is like putting the carrot in front of the donkey
I heard some single shot AEA gun . Under 12FPE version. You can got in UK.
@@ShootTechSysteminc would be grateful for the shop or dealer information as i just cant find one at all.
being unregulated, how is the fps for the 30 or so rounds per fill? Does it fall off wicked? or not much at all towards the 20-30 shots? (I noted the first 0 shots it didn't deviate much at all- )
I note that their HP Varmint AIR RIFLE in .22 is about 70 fpe at muzzle- wow- that's hitting hard- almost what the FX impact can do fpe-wise for their .22- the HP Varmint AIR RIFLE in .22 is getting same FPE as my .25 eagle claw- That's huge-
do you think the .22 HP would be accurate to say 100 yards? 150? or woudl it be pretty much an under 100 yard gun in your opinion? (I'm looking for a good hard hitting .22 for bench shooting at longer ranges- the FX woudl be awesome, but way too far out of my $ range)
It falls slowly and steadily over the shots. Not enough to effect anything under fifty or so. I think their bolt action guns are plenty accurate. But one thing to note i s relatively heavy trigger on most of them. So if you dont have good trigger control it can be hard to shoot them accurately. If you are good at trigger control no issues
@@68Whiskey thanks for the response.. darn, I was hoping you would say wasnt as good as it is lol, now I have to choose between the air venturi .22 and this model,in .22 lol 😆 I just did another test with my .25 eagle claw, and it starts out around 920 on 1/4 power for the hammer spring, good for a out 10,shots, but then drops pretty good amount to where I have to crank up power another setting at about 12 shot, then again around 22 shots or so, then again around 30, then around 36 or so as by now,it's dropping more than 10 fps after each shot right around the 25 shot count or so. Hard to keep,on target with drops that drastic, if I don't keep,increasing spring tension. It seems to be pretty consistent in those numbers I mentjoned- several, tests were right around the same results. I usually click up,a setting when it gets to 850, but that is over a 50 fps drop from where i started . Woild,like to find something with perhaps,just a drop of say 30 feet per second overall, without having to keep guessing on what tension setting for spring to use.
Keith, I am pleasantly surprised that you reviewed an AEA. You like short truck guns? Try the AEA HP SS semi-auto; I am hitting squirrels at 60 yards and with a shorter barrel!
Awesome! I will try it for sure. Have a feeling im gonna be playing with the whole lineup if i have my way 😁
Very very cool looking airgun my friend!! Congratulations on all the fun your gunna have!! 👏
Thanks bro! Havin a blast!
Awesome KEITH11 what is the power on the 30? I have a leshy 2 ijn 25 .....lookin for a 30 semi........AQCTION SHOOTING FOR THE 68 WISKEY SHOOTING SCHOOL !!!
Hahah yup! 775 fps 44 grain Not too shabby at all for power
Huh???
So why don't you just buy a .30 barrel for your L2?
I'm so confused....
AEA has a 7.62 Terminator on preorder, 1,100+ FPS with 50gr, purportedly, in Semi Automatic with a 12rd magazine.
I’m torn between one of those and the bullpup .457...
Did AEA stop production on these? I can't find much info on them at all and I recently seen one for sale on the forums. If they stopped production I'm afraid they may have also stopped support too...?
GREAT VIDEO...What's the difference between the carbine and the new PLUS?
Thanks man. And to be honest i have no idea! I only shot the carbine so far. Id give bin at “the pellet shop” a call. He knows everything about these guns man
Just picked up this aea hp carbine in .22. I did not run into any issue filling up to 250 bar. I agree with the cocking concerns...I'm thinking of installing a gum rubber pad at the end where my thumb would rest for cocking. I particularly don't like being able to continue to fire on an empty magazine. The hammer should lock back. I own the Hatsan Bullmaster and Blitz semi-autos and love them. The Bullmaster is far too heavy but I love its design. The Blitz is pretty long but a little lighter than the Bullmaster. I bought the AEA due to its weight and folding stock. I wish it had a longer barrel (17 in instead of 13 or 14in).
I fully agree on locking back being the way to go. Its just not that kind of magazine. The lcs lets you fire dry. Hell the delta wolf lets you fire dry and it a gizallion dollars. Makes no sense to me. I like to know when im empty too
@@68Whiskey I was looking at what makes the Hatsan mags lock open and I see that the mag is slightly larger than AEA'S. Imagine adding one more section to the AEA mag but not drilling it out... That last spot would lock back the hammer! I might play around with an extra mag and fill in the 12th spot...I can live with 11 rounds if I can get the last shot hold open.
Great video! Thanks! What is the ft/lbs on this gun pls?
I'm late, but this was an extremely thorough review. Keep doin' your thing man and good on you teachin' your littles ones to shoot. Thank you.
Thanks man!
@@68Whiskey Of course, my friend. Maybe you could help me out with an issue I've been having with mine? Whenever I go to refill the gun it seems like the psi gauge is blocking the adapter from getting to where it needs to be in order to fill the tank. If you have any ideas I'd appreciate them greatly, thanks.
Was it the old guns that had quality control problems or do they still have quality control problems? The complaint is about the plastic ammunition holder why don’t they make a middle one?
Like you, I have some grand ideas swimming in my head, of what needs to be; tweaked, changed, augmented. The greatest inventions are always rather just improvements on an existing notions.
The valve "locking" at such low pressures when 4500psi is available, means there's much more FPE available to be unlocked, even in such a short barrel. A major drawback of the direct gas cycling being used for the semi-auto function. Doesn't the air rifle world know, that the paintmarker world dropped mechanical cycling actions for electromagnetic cycling over two decades ago?
So much room for an amazing mousetrap... I'm definitely getting one of the .457 versions of this "truck gun" though!
Then again, I also had a tipman 68 when we were long past that technology too
Aside from an antique 12gram .177cal Benjamin air rifle I had as a young man, my passion had always been firesticks.
Then came paintball and a foray into high volume low pressure launchers (think Spud guns, but pnuematics and T-shirts)
Haha awesome. I love those t shirt chuckers!
I just ordered this gun from Utah air guns since my SK 19 has been delayed months now. I am wondering how to clean the gun? Do you need to remove the barrel completely? I was also wondering if a DonnyFL would work on this gun? Thanks for the help.
There is a donny adapter that makes it possible but it does lengthen the gun of course. I use a pull though cleaning system. I lock the action back with a screw driver bit installed in the breech.
@@68Whiskey Thank you,
Just wondering how that gun is holding up. I ordered one from Utah and its been delayed but had reservations on it since I read some bad review.
hi thank you for your video. I also have the HP Max. I don't understand how yours automatically reloads. could you explain that?
What slugs or pellets are you using in this video?
Have tested a Leshy 2 from EdGun? Any thoughts on that vs AEA Carbine? I know the price point is different? Also curious on your thoughts of .22 in the AEA for primarily backyard and squirrel hunting vs the .30?
I think the 22 is a better choice for backyard no doubt. And i havent shot a leshy so i really cant comment. But i would expect it to be a nicer gun. For the price difference there should be no doubt about it
I’ve been waiting for that to come out. AEA seems to put out low priced but very nice guns. They have a bull pup in .30 I’d like to get, but damn, that semi would be a ton of fun. Great video as usual.
Thanks bro! They do have a looker of a bullpup. I already have the wildcat so probably wont go that route but i def didnt have a semi auto!
THAT 32INCH BULLPUP IS AN ABSOLUTE BEAST!
@@jeffmaines1507 I was actually thinking the 24”. I could buy that, AND the semi for what a base model FX would cost. Hmmmmmm🧐😁🤪
But yeah. For the power they put out, dang, both in .30 cal would be sweet. I’d have two .25’s and two .30’s. I think Shooter 1721 did a review on the Bullpup. I think that made my decision for me between the Hatsan Bully and the AEA. looking at the tank set up, I wonder if you could regulate it.
Just emailed Fox about this. I guess there’s a way to regulate this thing with a Huma regulator. Trying to get a price to have this thing set up with it regulated at 2800-3000 psi. Getting happier 😁
i'm from the Philippines...if i will order...how much it will cost plus the shipping...thanks if you reply...
Im sorry man i dont know i shoot them i dont sell them. Ask Bin at www.thepelletshop.com
Nice! I have been looking at the AEA Challenger .357. Have you checked that one out yet? My other gun is an FX Crown .25, but it would be good to have a big bore with some real thump!
I havent checked that one out yet but plan to!
The intro, was that Air Rambo? lol. Excellent review Keith, you show them other airgun channels how it's done, bro. None of that bootlicking sh*t!
Hahahahha. Thanks man
@@68Whiskey Welcome.
Keith - what dovetail to picatinny adapter mount are you using under those FX rings?
Just a little clamp on type i got online. Nothing special
If they would regulate it you could fill it up to max and it would cycle and it would not need such a strong hammer spring.
that would be awesome
Great tool, do wish we could have semi auto over here 🇬🇧 thanks for sharing 👏👏
I wish you could too!
I don't have one and it a long story and I use to be a big aea fan but I'm still a little up set with them any ways you can regulate this gun so it more consistent than what it is and a lw barrel will be a lot more accurate mybe I'll get one day but for now I still going to hang off on buying one. Great video and review 👍👌✌️💯🎯🥂🇺🇸
Thanks man!
Wow, nice gun, I hope the folks at FX are watching, AEA is knocking HARD on your door.
Haha. Im sure they are. But to be real. Nothing beats fx accuracy. Nothing.
@@68Whiskey - well with everyone pretty much using the Lothar-Walther barrels accuracy should be similar I want to think like that. Am I wrong thought wise about the guns
Lmao..
Are they?
Strong firm barrel is a must.
The fx rifles barrel system are some of the weakest. Making them failed in many carry situations.
Most accurate. But can get knocked off if treated roughly
I believe the AEA carbine has the aluminum bottle and what you have there is an AEA carbine Assasin. The AEA carbine assasin comes with a carbon bottle and suppressor.
I think you are correct but i dont think they call them assasins anymore. Same gun but that name is gone. I think
awesome video brother
Thanks brother! Wish you were there woulda been a lot more fun!
Agree, good for the $$. You will get comfortable taking it apart bc it does have some little snafus, but easy to service the rifle. Polishing the trigger parts and also replacing the trigger springs can get a crisper and lighter pull. Not too light though for semi auto.
Upgrade your charging handle that's what I did
Good call not tooooo light lol.
Yo my man! Yes thats a duh solution to making it easier to cock Thanks bro!
@@68Whiskey it may turn into full auto if it's too light... 😅
what can you tell us about the manufacturing quality of this weapon? In Europe, do we still favor fx-airguns?
There is no doubt that fx rifles are superior buddy
I have the terminator the element and just sent back the SS pistol. Very accurate but there is some quality issues. For the money it’s a good value but I think they’re going to improve substantially overtime.
All gun companies do for sure. I have no qualms with my rifle. Looking forward to trying more and seeing whats what throughout the line
That's why I went with the Leishy 2. Quality issues of a Chinese air rifle is not worth it to save some money to me. Long-term reliability is more important.
@@68Whiskey Garbage Chinese air rifles.
But good luck with them. There are better on the market for a little more money like the L2. I'd rather have reliability and serviceability then saving a little money up front.
Just curious, do you have any Chinese made AR's laying around? Did you worry about the price when you bought them as well?
There’s always haters out there.
I've had two AEA airguns for about a year. I haven't done a ton of shooting but the valve pins on both have gone bad. It's pretty annoying.
That would definitely annoy me man
I think they need to do some work on valving and seals .trying to achieve to much power.something blew on my challenger 1st day.
Can you get different grips or use a AR15 grip?... Thanks
Can it function 125 grain slugs if you crank it up? It could be converted to single shot. As I saw where a fella was selling a .25 he converted. Nice critter getter.
Perfect review, only thing I disagreed with is making it longer but that is just my preference as well :D
Can't handle my fx like that and keep zero. Nice review Keith. Add a regulator...
Exactly. But on the reg. Im enjoying how different this gun is to my others. Think ill leave it as is
Any idea on the trigger weight? I've heard it is pretty heavy....
It is pretty heavy. On the 30 id say it’s near 8lbs. It does break crisply. But it is heavy
@@68Whiskey Thanks for the info. Could be a game changer for me personally.
Which slugs are good to use with this rifle? I inquired with a slug maker/rifle reviewer who sells slugs, and he wasn’t sure any of his offerings would work well.
Im not sure they would. Its a pellet shooter to me
My AEA is the same way with pressure. Cannot reach the recommended max pressure or it won’t cycle. Great and fun semi auto gun for the money. Mags could use a minor upgrade because the bolt beats up the pellet slots
Agreed on all counts! I understand they are working on the mag improvements currently
Just a few reasons why I went with the Edgun Leishy 2.
**pathetically resists urges to buy one of these** Haha pretty sweet truck gun with plenty of power. Thanks for another great piece of content!
Thanks man!
What kind of ammo were you running through it to get that kind of grouping?
Fx pellets. 44grain
Makes me concerned that it doesn't work right at full pressure because im only considering this over the blitz for the higher fpe
Nice shirt. I listen to him too. All caught up. Listened to your interview a couple times as well. Yay does a good job with it too.
Thanks man. I love Tay he is good people!
how do you think it'd handle slugs and longer ranges past 25 yards - 50 +
I have the .25 carbine and it's great fun... You can shoot at full psi in bolt action. Then load the mag. Freakn awesome airgun. Strong enough to thru 2.5 coconuts with the husk on. And make sure she's all lubed up for proper mag cycles.
Thanks for the tips bud. Specifically where do you lube for best performance? Silicon oil im guessing?
@@68Whiskey BALLISTOL oil, some oils melt the O-rings. All parts that move, the bolt action mainly...Worth every penny.
@@plove9136 did the same thing...only using a combination of SuperLube grease (bolt, probe, & bolt chamber) and Benjamin airgun oil (came with my Bulldog) everywhere else that moves. It's very important... I'm thinking the negative reviews on the AEA HP actions are attributed to NOT doing a thorough lube job
@@vetteconnoisseur9531 right on. Mine worked so much better... I didn't know the part names, but I can break it down and rebuild it np... Cool cool my friend. When my friend who hunts in the amazonjungles seen my target block after a clip; "WHOA!" is what he said.
Question? I've seen these being touted as possible home defense weapons. My question would be can these things be stored under pressure without bleeding off or damaging the gun?
They are meant to be stored under pressure. If they dont have pressure is when seals go bad
@@68Whiskey thank you.
Than you need to try Rti arms priest mk2 or better try prophet in 25 cal 😎 its a great gun!!
Man i have been curious about them. My buddy Erlis shoots them for iguanas
Keith, what red dot are you using and how do you like it, better then a scope ?
Thats an old bushnell trophy. I do love it for action shooting. But not for hunting. I always wish i had a little magnification when hunting
@@68Whiskey Well because of your review I just ordered that gun, now I just gotta figure out which scope to get!
Keith, what scope would you suggest for this gun?
Edgun Leshiy 2 in 30 cal is WAY WAY WAY more expensive but in my opinion is the best semi auto currently manufactured.
Please tell me your opinion.
Thank you😉
Agreed. Dollar for dollar i think this wins. If you can afford whatever you want? Leshiy
I love my AEA CHALLENGER. 357/9mm! Absolute beast!
Man i might have to get one keep hearing about that lineup
@@68Whiskey do it man! You won't regret it!!!!
@@68Whiskey DO IT! YOU WONT BE SORRY!
I looked at that challenger. I don't need a semi-automatic 357 though. So I prefer my Benjamin Bulldog.
Leishy 2 and Bulldog. I'm covered for a while.
@@dangerous8333
They have a bigger.357 bullpup on preorder now, minimum muzzle energy looks to be north of 300 ft lbs with 140gr slugs.
Hows the trigger? Any adjustability?
If there is i dont know about it. It is definitely stiff compared to the rifles im used to. But it does break clean when it breaks. Its perfectly fine to me knowing its dtiff when i go into it. I coukd see very young children having trouble with pulling it. Or new shooters that dont know trigger discipline. It reminds me of a service m16 trigger. Or a cop pistol trigger. Heavy. But clean. If that makes sense
I bought mine 3 years ago. still waiting to use it. it will not fill. never been fired. and Aea doesn't seem interested in fixing it.
I just got mine,but I can’t get the magazines to cycle. The did a few rimes, but now it’s just the first shot and then no more. To me the gun looks a lot like the new Brocock Ranger xr, almost to the letter.
Oh man that sucks!!! Utah air or the pellet shop can definitely help you out
How many different pellets you test? I think that gun can do better 25 yards.
Its totally possible that it can. I tested the only 30 cal pellets i had. FX 44 grain.
I like the way you proposed the the gun and idea of thoughts
Thanks tim
Does anyone know if they fixed the filling pressure issue now? Is it still necessary to fill to the lesser fill pressure on new guns? Keith suggest not filling it up to max pressure.
Hey david. Im told that it was a rarity and other guns have no issues with the full fill. I did get another to test and filled al the way fine…..so im not sure
Can you keep these charged indefinitely? Thanks
Yes keep em charged
Porque ha este PCP se le llama AEA ?? POR SU DISPARO SEMIAUTOMÁTICO ?? GRACIAS SALUDOS DESDE ESPAÑA !
Ese es el nombre del fabricante. AEA es una compañía China de armas de aire
Great review, thank you for detailed info.
Fun gun for sure! Only thing is it’s a bit loud.
Yeah man the blowback action kinda makes that unavoidable. But doesnt matter to me its still way quieter than the quietest powder burner
@@68Whiskey oh for sure, it’s a great AR training gun with the trigger that also feels like a stock AR. My biggest gripe is the ping in my right ear but over all it’s a fantastic little semi auto, best semi auto under $2000. Also try NSA slugs in it, my .22 version slings them very accurately.
is it shooting with pellets or with slugs (or both)?
I have only tried it with pellets
What is the model number on this? there are so many ss aea’s I’m confused.
You want the HP TD carbine buddy. The TD is what specifies this one.
Enjoyed your video man thanks
Thanks bro!
magazines break easily, slugs get stuck in the barrel, valve pin tends to break. Great PCP
How long will it hold full air without needing to top it off?
It holds it till you shoot it out bud. A leaking pcp has a busted seal. All of my guns have air in them all the time. If you store them empty its bad for the seals
What would be the best semi auto air rifle for home defense?
None. Real gun for that
It would be nice to have the bolt on both sides so you can pull it back with two fingers that would make it more user friendly
This is the video that got me to purchase mine!
Dang it! Now I have to explain why I'm getting another airgun in the mail... Just ordered one from Utah Airguns with FX rings and the Element 4-16. They had .30 in stock.
Never explain just beg forgiveness 😂
@@68Whiskey "Oh this old thing? I've had it forever..."
Does this thing shoot the FX slugs ?
I didnt try that yet
@@68Whiskey Ran horrible with the Slugs. Just an FYI. Also my trigger failed today. Will not catch and pulls freely after ever shot then engages and fires. Its going back to Utah.
I put a DonnyFL Fat Boy on my HP SS+ 30 cal. It’s super quiet!
Love that fat boy!
It's lovely isn't it? I have the hp ss 25 caliber. Haven't turned it up yet.
Oh yeah. Im not touching my settings. Works just fine as is!
I'm waiting on this. Utah Airguns said a couple weeks maybe. I have the .25
Nice!
That is one bad ass simi auto 30cal AEA putting out real nice , if it was regulated it wouldn't jam up at full bottle pressure 😉
Great video and presentation nice shooting as allways -🎯
Thanks bro. True words on the reg! But then it would cost more :)
@@68Whiskey Yep That's Right 👍
Still using this air rifle and if so how has it held up?
I dont use it too much lately. But it has held up just fine
@@68Whiskey Do you not use it because of a better air gun or just not shooting much anymore?
Wonder if you could just throw that thing in da truck or not? 😂🍻
Lol. I guess i made my point 🤣
@@68Whiskey haha. Can’t wait for the next one! 🍻 mate
whwere to buy that AG