Something I tend to say when I don't do a perfect restoration on something is 'it's better than it was'. In this case those roofs definitely look spectacular compared to how they looked before. Very nice job!
If you aren't worried about the backside of the pieces, you could dip/soak them in a vat of vinegar. The vinegar takes some if not most of the early Lionel paint off and etches out the rust from the metal. I then follow up with a wire wheel mounted on my power grinder. I will have to look up that paint. Enjoyed this.
Rust and dust are the natural weathering. The passenger cars look awesome! Great to see them back in action. By the way, you could easily add lighting with reproduction light fixtures and pickup roller trucks. 😉
You know, just like patinaed truck and car paint jobs are popular today, we may see clear coated classic trains at the shows. You did an excellent job on the cars.
Thanks Peter. The best part is finding these locos for cheap cheap cheap because in some cases someone couldn't be bothered to take an hour and give them a much needed clean and lube.
Thanks for watching. I was very happy to have grabbed them. Because we know if I didn't, they'd likely end up in the trash or back into a box and rot away completely!
Thanks for watching. I would do something like that for a high end restoration where I might sell them. But for these, staying in my own collection, close match works fine.
Sometimes I like to try different color combos on common cars if they are particularly bad. I buy rusty worn out junk, because restoration is most of the fun! Filled the back seats of a Toyota Camry and stuffed the trunk on five hundred dollars at the York TCA meet in October. Bought a 3462 milk car that was mechanically good, but the body was filthy. Roof was badly stained but the sides cleaned off OK, so I painted the roof and ends brown, as the car was illustrated in the 1947 catalog. Personally I think a black roof would look good with those green tinplate coaches, or perhaps a cream roof, matching the window inserts.
For that center brace, roof screw mount. Get a piece of sheet metal and form it close and either drill and thread tap and use a machine screw for the top or in this case you might get away with a simple sheet metal screw. It appears the part is just fold-over tabs to hold it to the car sides/top edge....
Great job Warren! And sure, for $10 and a little bit extra you've got yourself a nice set of pre-war cars. Say, if you want to glaze the windows of those cars here's a trick I use. Save empty plastic milk jugs and cut strips out of them, milk jug plastic makes great window glazing on O Gauge cars whether they light up or not. A fun, informative video, thanks for posting!
Wow, the roofs really look like the original color! For some of my rusted wheels/parts, I’ll be trying EvapoRust. Will see how that works before wire wheel
Thanks for watching. Yes, I am really happy with how the roofs turned out. I realized the rust looked much worse than it actually was on the wheel. A Dremel tool with a wire wheel and little over 1/2hr got all the wheels on all 3 cars cleaned up
Great job Warren I always enjoy your vids.. I collect old Lionel and Marx. I like to buy lots of old and junk cars from ebay and fix them. A little trick if I get a bunch of rusty wheels is put them in a plastic container and fill it with vinegar and cover with lid let them soak for a week or more rotating every couple days.. Usually most rust comes off scrubbing with a tooth brush. After soaking briefly in water and baking soda, dry in oven for 10-15 minutes, put in container and spray with wd-40 or similar then wipe dry. Seems like a lot of work for 4 or 6 trucks, but if you have 10 or more it saves a lot of elbow grease. Keep up the great work, thanx , Sam. P S same process works great for really rusty track put in larger container fill with vinegar soak for week or so and clean in old tub with scrub brush, it even removes old paint from ties.
Nice job Warren. Always good for old worn out trains to find a new home where they will be cared for.
Thanks for watching. I couldn't agree more. Keep them on the tracks and out of the scrap bins
Something I tend to say when I don't do a perfect restoration on something is 'it's better than it was'. In this case those roofs definitely look spectacular compared to how they looked before. Very nice job!
Thanks for watching! Thats how I look at it too.
Great redo on the roofs and wheels.
If you aren't worried about the backside of the pieces, you could dip/soak them in a vat of vinegar. The vinegar takes some if not most of the early Lionel paint off and etches out the rust from the metal. I then follow up with a wire wheel mounted on my power grinder. I will have to look up that paint. Enjoyed this.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the tip! I love gathering more info on different way to do this.
Rust and dust are the natural weathering. The passenger cars look awesome! Great to see them back in action. By the way, you could easily add lighting with reproduction light fixtures and pickup roller trucks. 😉
You know, just like patinaed truck and car paint jobs are popular today, we may see clear coated classic trains at the shows. You did an excellent job on the cars.
Great job, you do a great job @ resurrecting train cars and engines.
Thanks Peter. The best part is finding these locos for cheap cheap cheap because in some cases someone couldn't be bothered to take an hour and give them a much needed clean and lube.
Good job man. I agree 10 bucks is an absolute steal. I would love to have some of these
Thanks for watching. I was very happy to have grabbed them. Because we know if I didn't, they'd likely end up in the trash or back into a box and rot away completely!
Those old cars are so fun to look at .
If you had an airbrush, you could go to a paint store and do a paint match. Thin the paint down for the airbrush and get a perfect match.
Thanks for watching. I would do something like that for a high end restoration where I might sell them. But for these, staying in my own collection, close match works fine.
Sometimes I like to try different color combos on common cars if they are particularly bad. I buy rusty worn out junk, because restoration is most of the fun! Filled the back seats of a Toyota Camry and stuffed the trunk on five hundred dollars at the York TCA meet in October. Bought a 3462 milk car that was mechanically good, but the body was filthy. Roof was badly stained but the sides cleaned off OK, so I painted the roof and ends brown, as the car was illustrated in the 1947 catalog. Personally I think a black roof would look good with those green tinplate coaches, or perhaps a cream roof, matching the window inserts.
For that center brace, roof screw mount. Get a piece of sheet metal and form it close and either drill and thread tap and use a machine screw for the top or in this case you might get away with a simple sheet metal screw. It appears the part is just fold-over tabs to hold it to the car sides/top edge....
Thanks for watching and thanks for the tip. I ended up finding a donor car with the brace and a roof in better condition so I used those instead.
Great job Warren! And sure, for $10 and a little bit extra you've got yourself a nice set of pre-war cars.
Say, if you want to glaze the windows of those cars here's a trick I use. Save empty plastic milk jugs and cut strips out of them, milk jug plastic makes great window glazing on O Gauge cars whether they light up or not.
A fun, informative video, thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching and for the tip Wayne. I just might give that a try.
@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331 You're welcome! And do so, you'll be amazed how glazing those empty windows improves the look of the cars.
Wow, the roofs really look like the original color! For some of my rusted wheels/parts, I’ll be trying EvapoRust. Will see how that works before wire wheel
Thanks for watching. Yes, I am really happy with how the roofs turned out. I realized the rust looked much worse than it actually was on the wheel. A Dremel tool with a wire wheel and little over 1/2hr got all the wheels on all 3 cars cleaned up
Great job Warren I always enjoy your vids.. I collect old Lionel and Marx. I like to buy lots of old and junk cars from ebay and fix them. A little trick if I get a bunch of rusty wheels is put them in a plastic container and fill it with vinegar and cover with lid let them soak for a week or more rotating every couple days.. Usually most rust comes off scrubbing with a tooth brush. After soaking briefly in water and baking soda, dry in oven for 10-15 minutes, put in container and spray with wd-40 or similar then wipe dry. Seems like a lot of work for 4 or 6 trucks, but if you have 10 or more it saves a lot of elbow grease. Keep up the great work, thanx , Sam.
P S same process works great for really rusty track put in larger container fill with vinegar soak for week or so and clean in old tub with scrub brush, it even removes old paint from ties.
Thanks for watching and thank for the tip! Any extra bits of info helps the community keep these old trains on the tracks for a few more generations!
Welcome, Keep 'em running!!@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331
Great job and great find!!! Thank you
Thanks for watching! I hope I can do it again. These cars look amazing with a 221 and they are light enough that it could probably pull 6-8 of them
nice
Great job but next time do plastic.