This is the best example of an NHL team using offer sheets that I know of. Very clever, well planned, and they will get at least one of the 2 players, while the Oilers are right up against the cap.
Wow, that's pretty crazy about Buchnevich, lol. Blues just screwed us right up the ass with this one. I don't understand why we re-signed Perry at 1.4 and sign guys like JBrown and CCarrick instead of focusing on our younger, better RFAs??
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Can’t really blame the players. It’s there first big payday, got offered twice as much and 4 times as much. Probably should just suck it up, and get Leon and Bouchard signed
If Broberg did not want to negotiate earlier. And if Boberg asked for a trade earlier... Then he obviously wants out of the organization and we will not be able to retain him after this 2-year contract comes to completion. I am reluctant to let a solid defenseman go - bu if he does not want to be an Oiler then let him walk. A pity.
Blues fan here. I have a feeling a rivalry is going to start here soon. Are we not friends anymore from this if the Blues get both players or is this just temporarily? Me and my father are thinking of flying to Edmonton for the December 7th game.
There's no point complaining about this, it's allowed by the leauge and the Oilers have done the exact same thing to other teams. Players are going to try and as get as much money as they can and so they should. I'm sure their agents were talking to teams as soon as their contracts expired.
@Feedback4Utoday The Oilers did it to Anaheim when they acquired Dustin Penner. They tried it with Buffalo too when they gave Thomas Vanek an offer sheet but the Sabres ended up matching the offer.
HAHAHAHAHA and you have BOWMAN running the ship now. LOVE THIS SO MUCH. Not because its the Oilers, its because GM's are too much of a good ol boys club. Use the mechanisms at your disposal to MAKE YOUR TEAM better. Its a team game right? Why arent GM's doing all they can to make their teams better... LOVE IT
I honestly think we should let both Broberg and Holloway go. They signed the offer sheets so they both clearly want to leave. Why do we want two players on the team who could care less about getting the cup? Let them go lose in St Louis and we'll replace them with a couple of cup hungry players.
I'd let both go for 2 major reasons. 1 the price tag is too high on both. 2 teams like Montreal have excess players aka dmen that Edmonton can get 4 cheap. So I think that everyone should relax and realize we can replace broberg and Holliday via trade and get revenge on the blues when they least expect it
I hate to say this, but let em both go. A 2nd and a 3rd coming back, means you keep an eye to the future without exploding team continuity. You have Arvidson, Skinner, maybe Savoie to fit in, along with Stecher and Brown on the back end. Puck you Doug Armstrong!
Blues really want Broberg. They are using Holloway as a way to force oilers to choose one or the other. If they only offer sheeted Broberg it would be pretty easy for the oilers to match.
@@Vayner447 That will change, he showed way more promise as a solid defenseman, than Holloway did as a winger (who may be good on the 3rd or 4th line). But both could still turn out to be mediocre. The Blues are taking a big risk here. Also, now that the Oilers have an intelligent head coach, they've stepped up and have another level yet that they can attain. They'll do exceedingly well without Broberg and Holloway, and could do well with the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.
Nut up they can sign these players. They can also sign the other players as well. Bouchard will get more than Broberg and Broberg can be traded after next season if he is a problem.
I'm not saying you're wrong...but, what are you giving up now to compensate for for the 7 million that puts you over the cap before you even sign the others ? The question isn't can you but HOW can you make this work.
@@toddford9839 Evander Kane LTIR, trade Ceci, move personnel to AHL team such as Josh Brown, Troy Stecher and Cory Perry. Or others who are in a similar situation.
@@shofforth1 it'll work.. for now.... but eventually you need to make a move to free up payroll. And your already talking about carrying an extra 5 million by exploiting the LTIR. A temporary fix at best.
I'm not sure it's worth matching the Broberg offer at $4.58 million. He had a good playoff but it's not sure that he can hold that level, and for that money they could look for an experienced right-shot defenseman at the trade deadline. It doesn't look like he wants to be with the team anyway. Somebody would have to be moved out, but by the trade deadline they'll have a better idea of who's working out and who's not. With the forward group they have they can score more goals than Nurse/Ceci will let in, at least in regular season play.
When you say about offer sheets that practice should be illegal,it’s cause of concern can cause Gm ‘s to feud and taking advantage of former Gm or Gm’s former dealings like Stan Bowman’s!”
They'll match both. Then play them in good positions next season before trading at least one of them away after 1 year. The return will be at least a 1st Rd pick++ instead of the 2nd or 3rd that the team would be compensated now.
Honestly let them go, the oilers are taking team safe contracts left and right and they got an offer that’s more then what they’re currently worth. We have a ton of good rookies that want their spots.
I understand Broberg first taking the massive payday and he’s also had frustration with the organization but it’s my belief this won’t be looked upon favourably by the room or the fans if the oilers match, Holloway on the other hand I don’t see his motivation for doing this he’s young a extra million isn’t a lot especially when we hear reports he was looking for a one year deal, he’s a Canadian kid from Alberta playing in a spot to win multiple Stanley cups and with Skinners deal only being for 1 year he’s a lock in the top 9 and most likely top 6 next year. I do believe if the Oilers match the fan base or the room won’t have a problem with him moving forward.
... you just said it yourself. !! All Bowman had to do is sign broberg to 1.8 million contract. Bowman didn't. But it's ken hollands fault that broberg is now worth 4.5 million?
Keep Broberg. Talk about him wanting to leave has pretty much faded away. Blues offered him that much money because it's obvious what he adds to a defense. That's a lot of money for where he's at right now, but his potential is worth the gamble. I can see him being a top four defenseman in the not-too-distant future. Maybe even this coming year. Don't screw around with it. Put him out there and let him play. He can play both left and right sides. Great skater and moves the puck well. Third best d-man behind Bouchard and Ekholm. Defense first! He got a lot of experience in Bakersfield. And it showed during the playoffs. His ability really stood out. That's why Vinnie had to take a seat in the press box. Team pretty much stacked up front. Losing Holloway would hurt a little, but not that much. I'd like to keep him too, but it might not be possible. If it really comes down to it, I'd keep Broberg, and I'll be surprised and disappointed if the team doesn't do that. That's assuming he really doesn't want to leave. Defense first! We shouldn't be angry at them for signing the offer sheets. If we were in their position we'd do the same thing. And put Bowman on LTIR!
I cant knock em for chasing the money because its serious dollars. That being said, there are players that are willing to take a cut to be here. Let em go
Sign both and keep them in Bakersfield until we can squeeze them under the cap for next season. By the time Kane returns from LTIR the oil may have more injuries to deal with.
Lots to say I am not a finicial expert for the NHL things, but McDavid and company cannot ask for the moon UNTIL they win a cup your salary stays the same until you win a cup. 2 could Broberg and Dylans agents have holded them out on Edmonton just to get to a offer sheet. From what I see a lot of sigings from holland and company that dont make any sense, Edmonton needs some smart money managment when you have a team like this and penny pinching do it smart. In the end its the fans that want the cup and pay these players/managment salaries.
I know it would be really hard to keep both. That being said right handed D-men don’t grow on trees…. If they think they have a exceptional one, they should get creative, but what will it cost us down the road? A core piece of the team? Or just guys that are aging out anyway? 1 bad Contract is weighing us down.
Admittedly, I am new to the inner workings of the NHL, but it seems too me the Oilers made a big mistake here and didn't make signing Broberg and Holloway a big enough priority and this is the price they pay. They have dragged their feet on this for far too long and look where it got them. They should have, like some people have already said, not signed Perry or Brown until they had their UFAs and RFAs dealt with.
I don't think that it is possible to keep both. Even if the Oilers put Kane on LTIR as it sounds like they will, the math just doesn't add up. We will need to trade away soneone too. If we do we are getting dangerously close to not having a full roster. So the Oilers are between a rock and a hard place here. Let Broberg join the Blues and match Holloway. I say that reluctantly as Broberg did wonderful things for us during the playoffs.
Sadly we have to let them walk or only go for Holloway. Holloway at 2.5m still works because he should get over 25 points next year. So it’s worth it but still sucks balls
This wouldn't have even happened to Holland, because Armstrong is his friend, but maybe instead of signing a bunch of older and fringe players, Jackson could have either signed even one of his RFAs or maybe left a bit of cap space. The Oilers hired a pariah GM where there isn't going to be any blowback from other GMs and Dubas even helped make this happen by traded St Louis their pick back. After trying to squeeze these RFAs to sign for as little as they can get away with I'm not going to blame these players for actually wanting to get paid. These guys could have been signed for a lot less.
They need to pressure Nurse to waive his NTCso he can be traded. . Hes got his money. Obviously hes not a team player like Leon n Connor who took a pay cut.
Unfortunately Broberg played very well at YrEnd....... so planned as 2nd Rt D (shooting L) given that Nurse Cici are 3rd liners - not competitive in playoffs or w more responsibility.. Nurse chokes a thinking problem... not play smart etc. Edm invested a lot of time/money into these 2 1st rd picks. so a big problem - Now Jackso/Bowman in question w all the old signings.. and if causes Drais to think more about 'max the money' - as these guys and Nurse/Bouchard are doing..... all bottom 6 has to be $1mil guys..
The revenge talk is bs, look at the Blues history, they don't let their top young players just linger out there all summer long. They have a history of locking up their young guys early and for decent deals at that. In addition to not only does the player have to be available July 1 the Oilers would need the picks to give up and the cap space. Neighbors will be 6m+ that's 1st round pick territory or more because even if the Oilers offered around market value for him the Blues would just match that, the have the cap to do so.
Ken hollands fault? He literally just finished almost winning us the cup. This is solely on Bowman if you are to blame anyone. He had 2 simple tasks since he took over. Jackson left it super easy for him. Sign holloway and broberg. And sign draisaitl.
Screw both of them. There is no way either is worth the money signed. Bring Tyson Barry back and any young fifth liner that Holloway would actually be on the Current Oilers roster. These two are so not with the money they signed for. And don’t tell me Dylan Holloway’s integrity is intact. Screw him.
Blaming Ken Holland is just a poor attempt at deflection from Oiler hired media. Jeff Jackson made it very clear to Holland that he was not going to be re-signed. From that point forward, if Jeff Jackson was not over-seeing everything Holland was doing with a microscope, then that falls squarely on him. Use to be a fan of Jackson, but from the GM hiring and onward, he's been a total disaster.
When you look at the oilers D, it is very thin. The ideal situation is to trade away Nurse and his contract. Will probably need to throw in a huge sweetner like 1st and 2nd rounder.
Let them both go, take the compensation draft picks. Both of them are over-rated. Now that the Oilers have an intelligent coach, this team will gel and win.
Getting rid of Nurse would be the best for the team, but who's gonna take that contract? Impossible, even if Nurse waived his NMC. Especially now, ain't no way anyone is gonna want to help the Oilers out lol
Get rid of Broberg..hes a cancer Keep Holloway to help keep the forwards relevent..Losing MacLeod was a dagger..thats the one that really set things backwards
@@ABC-sc2ip Perry to the ducks, end his career were it started l, they got tons of cap and could likely get a draft pick taking him. Evander Kane to Columbus, they already lack goal scoring which is kanes specialty and their losing laine so he could be the replacement, Columbus would also be able to get a decent draft pick with him so it’s a win win.
Take the deals and bury them in the minors for the year. Have to pay them but don’t count against the cap. Like I said, Holloway would have been on the 4th line anyway. Kane goes on LTIR and you can keep Ceci. Let Holloway and Broberg sit for a year in the minors or let them go. Only options I see for this year.
Ceci without Nurse played pretty well. In fact, people pairing with Nurse often find it harder to defend, and soon run into problems. So Maybe Ceci isn't the problem. Same thing happened to Larson and Russell with Nurse. Some fans ran them into the ground as well anyway. Same old story with Nurse isn't it.
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This is the best example of an NHL team using offer sheets that I know of. Very clever, well planned, and they will get at least one of the 2 players, while the Oilers are right up against the cap.
Wow, that's pretty crazy about Buchnevich, lol. Blues just screwed us right up the ass with this one. I don't understand why we re-signed Perry at 1.4 and sign guys like JBrown and CCarrick instead of focusing on our younger, better RFAs??
They either thought they'd sign them all, or as insurance if this does happen.
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Can’t really blame the players. It’s there first big payday, got offered twice as much and 4 times as much. Probably should just suck it up, and get Leon and Bouchard signed
If Broberg did not want to negotiate earlier. And if Boberg asked for a trade earlier... Then he obviously wants out of the organization and we will not be able to retain him after this 2-year contract comes to completion.
I am reluctant to let a solid defenseman go - bu if he does not want to be an Oiler then let him walk. A pity.
Match Holloway and take Compensation for Broberg.
Blues fan here. I have a feeling a rivalry is going to start here soon. Are we not friends anymore from this if the Blues get both players or is this just temporarily? Me and my father are thinking of flying to Edmonton for the December 7th game.
The blues are enemy #2. Behind enemy #1 the Maple Laughs.
Apparently Blues still have a shoulder chip from Nail Yakupov and Magnus Pjarvi?...lol...I'll give you a pass...
This is all about stan bowman. Always has been. Hes a POS and shouldnt be in the league. Dont expect other gms to make it easy on you.
There's no point complaining about this, it's allowed by the leauge and the Oilers have done the exact same thing to other teams. Players are going to try and as get as much money as they can and so they should. I'm sure their agents were talking to teams as soon as their contracts expired.
Whatever...we have done a lot of fckn around with our draft picks
Exactly. I can't stand the hypocrisy from the whiners whining about the same thing the Oilers have also done whenever it suited them.
DON'T THINK OILERS HAVE DONE THIS... VERY FEW HAVE
@@Feedback4Utoday Lol, well, they have. Vanek and Penner come to mind.)
@Feedback4Utoday The Oilers did it to Anaheim when they acquired Dustin Penner. They tried it with Buffalo too when they gave Thomas Vanek an offer sheet but the Sabres ended up matching the offer.
We're losing way too many young players with not too many prospects in sight. If they don't win the cup this year, what's the future looking like?
Let broberg walk he priced himself out of the mix
I’m Leary about signing Broberg who only had a 10 game run, a little risky if you ask me!
Let them walk and keep the cap space
Agree! The are other players in the oilers org to fill holloway and broberg spots! The oilers can use the cap space for filler players!
Broberg played well during the playoffs, Holloway is over-rated. Let them go, take the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.
I say keep both. Ceci definitely goes to do this, and I could see nurse going as well. But nurse did well with Broberg. Just nurses money.
Let them walk. Look how far they went with broberg in the minors all year and a black ace first 2 rounds. Contract is way to much. Cya
Jackson should have been watching this possibility,could blame him
HAHAHAHAHA and you have BOWMAN running the ship now. LOVE THIS SO MUCH. Not because its the Oilers, its because GM's are too much of a good ol boys club. Use the mechanisms at your disposal to MAKE YOUR TEAM better. Its a team game right? Why arent GM's doing all they can to make their teams better... LOVE IT
You must be a FLEMS FAN, Canuckle heads Fan or a Lowly BayLeafs Fan HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
I honestly think we should let both Broberg and Holloway go. They signed the offer sheets so they both clearly want to leave. Why do we want two players on the team who could care less about getting the cup? Let them go lose in St Louis and we'll replace them with a couple of cup hungry players.
Nurse is not getting traded!!
I'd let both go for 2 major reasons. 1 the price tag is too high on both. 2 teams like Montreal have excess players aka dmen that Edmonton can get 4 cheap. So I think that everyone should relax and realize we can replace broberg and Holliday via trade and get revenge on the blues when they least expect it
I hate to say this, but let em both go. A 2nd and a 3rd coming back, means you keep an eye to the future without exploding team continuity. You have Arvidson, Skinner, maybe Savoie to fit in, along with Stecher and Brown on the back end. Puck you Doug Armstrong!
Something to think about is a 2nd and a 3rd round picks can be used to bring in more cost effective guys. Both showed potential but at those prices?
most 2nd rounders do not make nhl.... and 3rd rounders even less likely
I’m sorry but how did Broberg end up with a better offer then Holloway??
Broberg's the better player, by far.
Higher upside and fewer players like him
Blues really want Broberg. They are using Holloway as a way to force oilers to choose one or the other. If they only offer sheeted Broberg it would be pretty easy for the oilers to match.
@@OldWolf1933he couldn’t crack the NHL line up until the playoffs.
@@Vayner447 That will change, he showed way more promise as a solid defenseman, than Holloway did as a winger (who may be good on the 3rd or 4th line). But both could still turn out to be mediocre. The Blues are taking a big risk here.
Also, now that the Oilers have an intelligent head coach, they've stepped up and have another level yet that they can attain. They'll do exceedingly well without Broberg and Holloway, and could do well with the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.
I realized something. Talking about revenge, what if we sign one or the other in free agency in 2 years?
IMO if your keeping one keep Broberg
Dirty pool by St. Louis! We will remember this!
Not much you can do about it.
And the oilers get like a 2nd and a 3rd round pick out of this, these offer sheet should at least give them 1-2 first round picks
Nut up they can sign these players. They can also sign the other players as well. Bouchard will get more than Broberg and Broberg can be traded after next season if he is a problem.
I'm not saying you're wrong...but, what are you giving up now to compensate for for the 7 million that puts you over the cap before you even sign the others ? The question isn't can you but HOW can you make this work.
@@toddford9839 Evander Kane LTIR, trade Ceci, move personnel to AHL team such as Josh Brown, Troy Stecher and Cory Perry. Or others who are in a similar situation.
@@shofforth1 it'll work.. for now.... but eventually you need to make a move to free up payroll. And your already talking about carrying an extra 5 million by exploiting the LTIR. A temporary fix at best.
Would like to have your Personal opinion
And OILERMANIACS please staye should we or shouldn't we keep em ?
It’s a mess but losing both players may affect the future and not the current path for the cup. May create opportunity for some of the Condor roster.
Let broberg walk, he’s definitely in it for the money…So let him go get it, and he can make it to the cup finals in 10-15 years…match Holloway
Let them both go. Take the compensation. Both are over-rated. Especially Holloway.
It's a rough row to tow. 🍀
I'm not sure it's worth matching the Broberg offer at $4.58 million. He had a good playoff but it's not sure that he can hold that level, and for that money they could look for an experienced right-shot defenseman at the trade deadline. It doesn't look like he wants to be with the team anyway. Somebody would have to be moved out, but by the trade deadline they'll have a better idea of who's working out and who's not. With the forward group they have they can score more goals than Nurse/Ceci will let in, at least in regular season play.
People say Ceci makes too much money and we are talking about giving Bro $4m. That is insane. We aren’t desperate.
Over price, let St Lu has both.
Nurse has a no trade clause. And you can't trade Kane as he is on ltir. Leave the two to go to the Blues.
Kane is not on LTIR yet but he also has a NMC
When you say about offer sheets that practice should
be illegal,it’s cause of concern
can cause Gm ‘s to feud and
taking advantage of former
Gm or Gm’s former dealings
like Stan Bowman’s!”
They'll match both. Then play them in good positions next season before trading at least one of them away after 1 year. The return will be at least a 1st Rd pick++ instead of the 2nd or 3rd that the team would be compensated now.
Broberg more than bouchard? Good luck resigning him when bouchard asks for 10 million.
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lol. Pure copium.
Honestly let them go, the oilers are taking team safe contracts left and right and they got an offer that’s more then what they’re currently worth. We have a ton of good rookies that want their spots.
It's killing me knowing that they were only $500k off with Broberg. Wth.
I understand Broberg first taking the massive payday and he’s also had frustration with the organization but it’s my belief this won’t be looked upon favourably by the room or the fans if the oilers match, Holloway on the other hand I don’t see his motivation for doing this he’s young a extra million isn’t a lot especially when we hear reports he was looking for a one year deal, he’s a Canadian kid from Alberta playing in a spot to win multiple Stanley cups and with Skinners deal only being for 1 year he’s a lock in the top 9 and most likely top 6 next year. I do believe if the Oilers match the fan base or the room won’t have a problem with him moving forward.
... you just said it yourself. !! All Bowman had to do is sign broberg to 1.8 million contract. Bowman didn't. But it's ken hollands fault that broberg is now worth 4.5 million?
The blues did a great job by getting 2 years and not 1 year oilers are screwed.
Keep Broberg. Talk about him wanting to leave has pretty much faded away. Blues offered him that much money because it's obvious what he adds to a defense. That's a lot of money for where he's at right now, but his potential is worth the gamble. I can see him being a top four defenseman in the not-too-distant future. Maybe even this coming year. Don't screw around with it. Put him out there and let him play. He can play both left and right sides. Great skater and moves the puck well. Third best d-man behind Bouchard and Ekholm. Defense first! He got a lot of experience in Bakersfield. And it showed during the playoffs. His ability really stood out. That's why Vinnie had to take a seat in the press box. Team pretty much stacked up front. Losing Holloway would hurt a little, but not that much. I'd like to keep him too, but it might not be possible. If it really comes down to it, I'd keep Broberg, and I'll be surprised and disappointed if the team doesn't do that. That's assuming he really doesn't want to leave. Defense first! We shouldn't be angry at them for signing the offer sheets. If we were in their position we'd do the same thing. And put Bowman on LTIR!
If I was Bro and Hollow Way I would focus on money more than taking a paycut with no guarantee that a cup will be hoisted next year. That's just me.
I cant knock em for chasing the money because its serious dollars. That being said, there are players that are willing to take a cut to be here. Let em go
Sign both and keep them in Bakersfield until we can squeeze them under the cap for next season. By the time Kane returns from LTIR the oil may have more injuries to deal with.
We don't get cap relief for their full AAV in the minors. Only around 1 mil of it.
Lots to say I am not a finicial expert for the NHL things, but McDavid and company cannot ask for the moon UNTIL they win a cup your salary stays the same until you win a cup. 2 could Broberg and Dylans agents have holded them out on Edmonton just to get to a offer sheet. From what I see a lot of sigings from holland and company that dont make any sense, Edmonton needs some smart money managment when you have a team like this and penny pinching do it smart. In the end its the fans that want the cup and pay these players/managment salaries.
I know it would be really hard to keep both. That being said right handed D-men don’t grow on trees…. If they think they have a exceptional one, they should get creative, but what will it cost us down the road? A core piece of the team? Or just guys that are aging out anyway? 1 bad Contract is weighing us down.
Broberg is a lefty.
Which right handed D are you talking about?
Evan, almost 7 million goes a long way to getting him signed
I'd let them walk. Put Kane on LTIR and sign or trade for someone.
Admittedly, I am new to the inner workings of the NHL, but it seems too me the Oilers made a big mistake here and didn't make signing Broberg and Holloway a big enough priority and this is the price they pay. They have dragged their feet on this for far too long and look where it got them. They should have, like some people have already said, not signed Perry or Brown until they had their UFAs and RFAs dealt with.
I don't think that it is possible to keep both. Even if the Oilers put Kane on LTIR as it sounds like they will, the math just doesn't add up. We will need to trade away soneone too. If we do we are getting dangerously close to not having a full roster. So the Oilers are between a rock and a hard place here. Let Broberg join the Blues and match Holloway. I say that reluctantly as Broberg did wonderful things for us during the playoffs.
Keep both! It is extremely possible. The Blues should not get anyone. They should go pound sand!
Why? You can’t have overpays with Bouchard and McDavid due the same as QOs for Broberg and Holloway would be due.
Why? Let both walk, save the cash, and then upgrade D at the trade deadline. Don’t hamstring the next 2 years of cup window for two “maybes”.
Sadly we have to let them walk or only go for Holloway. Holloway at 2.5m still works because he should get over 25 points next year. So it’s worth it but still sucks balls
Let’s see what bowman does with this!..
I think we can keep both of them …bowman can work his magic!
This wouldn't have even happened to Holland, because Armstrong is his friend, but maybe instead of signing a bunch of older and fringe players, Jackson could have either signed even one of his RFAs or maybe left a bit of cap space. The Oilers hired a pariah GM where there isn't going to be any blowback from other GMs and Dubas even helped make this happen by traded St Louis their pick back. After trying to squeeze these RFAs to sign for as little as they can get away with I'm not going to blame these players for actually wanting to get paid. These guys could have been signed for a lot less.
Let them walk
I think sell nurse for the young talent and pay them for the future
They can't trade ceci because they will have no defense.
I would rather have broberg then the dumpster fire both Ceci and kulak can be
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Let them go take the draft choices lots of free agents available
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The young lads are not stupid by this they just used there worth I say let them go they did sign so they want to go
Broberg is too expensive at almost 5m
I would attempt to keep both. Until I see mcdavid resign I’m gonna assume he’s gone in 2 years. Future picks won’t help this 2 year cup window.
They need to pressure Nurse to waive his NTCso he can be traded. . Hes got his money. Obviously hes not a team player like Leon n Connor who took a pay cut.
Unfortunately Broberg played very well at YrEnd....... so planned as 2nd Rt D (shooting L) given that Nurse Cici are 3rd liners - not competitive in playoffs or w more responsibility.. Nurse chokes a thinking problem... not play smart etc. Edm invested a lot of time/money into these 2 1st rd picks. so a big problem - Now Jackso/Bowman in question w all the old signings.. and if causes Drais to think more about 'max the money' - as these guys and Nurse/Bouchard are doing..... all bottom 6 has to be $1mil guys..
Let em walk, If signed put arbitration on the table.... 😂😂😂.
its a war now
Kane on LTIR till march solves it all.
The St. Louis Blues are now Oilers public enemy #1. We will not forget.
@@cgeescorts1487 No! That title is still held by that junior organization called the calgary flames!
Trading Nurse sounds like a really good idea :)
The revenge talk is bs, look at the Blues history, they don't let their top young players just linger out there all summer long. They have a history of locking up their young guys early and for decent deals at that. In addition to not only does the player have to be available July 1 the Oilers would need the picks to give up and the cap space. Neighbors will be 6m+ that's 1st round pick territory or more because even if the Oilers offered around market value for him the Blues would just match that, the have the cap to do so.
Screw them both…..let them watch the Oilers win the cup!…..sign Haalloway then trade him to Utah
They can’t. If they match either offer and retain either player, neither one can be traded for Atleast a year
Trade Nure please,please please
He doesn't want to go so they can't. Sorry sorry sorry
Learn to spell.
What happened after the last big wedding.....the unthinkable. be prepared.
Ken hollands fault? He literally just finished almost winning us the cup. This is solely on Bowman if you are to blame anyone. He had 2 simple tasks since he took over. Jackson left it super easy for him. Sign holloway and broberg. And sign draisaitl.
I hate St Louis almost as much as L.A and Calgary and Vegas now
First 😮
Screw both of them. There is no way either is worth the money signed. Bring Tyson Barry back and any young fifth liner that Holloway would actually be on the Current Oilers roster. These two are so not with the money they signed for. And don’t tell me Dylan Holloway’s integrity is intact. Screw him.
Blaming Ken Holland is just a poor attempt at deflection from Oiler hired media. Jeff Jackson made it very clear to Holland that he was not going to be re-signed. From that point forward, if Jeff Jackson was not over-seeing everything Holland was doing with a microscope, then that falls squarely on him. Use to be a fan of Jackson, but from the GM hiring and onward, he's been a total disaster.
If stanbown match's there offer he should be fire him a jeff oilers got there self in cap hell with nurse
Broberg is average at best. Holloway is worth fighting for a little.
When you look at the oilers D, it is very thin. The ideal situation is to trade away Nurse and his contract. Will probably need to throw in a huge sweetner like 1st and 2nd rounder.
Fu** it, don’t match either, savoie take’s Holloways spot and stecher takes brobergs
The sense of entitlement is ridiculous with these 2 player....lmao...they each have 1 good playoff run and now are all of a sudden worth millions.
I’d be getting rid of Broberg. He is definitely not a team player and obviously his agent wants him to make more
Let them both go, take the compensation draft picks. Both of them are over-rated. Now that the Oilers have an intelligent coach, this team will gel and win.
Just remember St. Louis you swung first
As a Blues fan, Ik. Now we have a new rivalry I feel like which I’m looking forward to in the future 😉
I would definitely match both and trade Nurse. Nurse is a decent D man but nowhere near worth the money he's making.
Nurse has a NMC,
I rather keep both and get Nurse to wave than trade him. Nurse would be ok D at $5 million
Getting rid of Nurse would be the best for the team, but who's gonna take that contract? Impossible, even if Nurse waived his NMC. Especially now, ain't no way anyone is gonna want to help the Oilers out lol
It won't fucking happen.
He has to waive his no move clause.
Goodluck with him doing that
Why does everyone think you can just trade Nurse? He's going nowhere. Get over it.
Get rid of Broberg..hes a cancer Keep Holloway to help keep the forwards relevent..Losing MacLeod was a dagger..thats the one that really set things backwards
Trade Nurse and one of Ceci, Kulak. Keep HollyBerg. Nurse is cooked. Elite competition eats him alive.
Nurse has a ntc
Everyone makes it sound so simple. Nurse wants to stay. Sorry, get over it
St. Louis blues has no class
Stop crying.
Move NURSE then all is well 👍
Lmao. Good look with that. Nobody is taking that contract, and he has no movement clause as long as Mcdavid is there.
Trade Perry and Kane and we can make it work without trading anyone else
Oilers just resigned Perry so no way he’s getting traded
Who is going to take Perry or Kane? Both aged players with no upside.
@@ABC-sc2ip Perry to the ducks, end his career were it started l, they got tons of cap and could likely get a draft pick taking him. Evander Kane to Columbus, they already lack goal scoring which is kanes specialty and their losing laine so he could be the replacement, Columbus would also be able to get a decent draft pick with him so it’s a win win.
Kane has a NMC and has already stated he's not leaving
Take the deals and bury them in the minors for the year. Have to pay them but don’t count against the cap. Like I said, Holloway would have been on the 4th line anyway. Kane goes on LTIR and you can keep Ceci. Let Holloway and Broberg sit for a year in the minors or let them go. Only options I see for this year.
Absurd. Yes you can bury contracts in the minors, but anything above $1,1 million still counts against the cap.
It absolutely counts against the cap
Ceci without Nurse played pretty well. In fact, people pairing with Nurse often find it harder to defend, and soon run into problems. So Maybe Ceci isn't the problem. Same thing happened to Larson and Russell with Nurse. Some fans ran them into the ground as well anyway. Same old story with Nurse isn't it.