You've Been Making Rings The Wrong Way - I Can Save You Time And Money
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- Time your self making a ring the way you have been taught. Now forget everything you have learned about the way you make rings. Try making a ring the way I show you and I guaranteed my way will be quicker and easier and more accurate.
This film shows you how I can save you time and money. I can make a ring 50% faster than the usual traditional method that has been taught for years and years.
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Andrew shows you many hints and tips that he has gained from his experience as a professional goldsmith.
Andrew Berry, a professional jeweller for 30 years, is the training director of www.AtTheBench.com, an award winning on line jewellery training website.
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A 3rd generation Navajo artist. My grandfather was silversmith and he passed away when my father was young. But my father is a sculpture and so am I. But I very much appreciate you helping my gain a piece of my culture and legacy back. Can never say thanks enough for your knowledge.
ahéé'ée shík'is (thank you my friend in navajo)
Hello Andrew, I am so happy I found your instruction videos before starting my jewelry making adventure. I am 70 years old so time is not on my side. Your instructions will save me time, material and lots of frustration. I am sure my greatest friend will be my magnifying glass lol. I hope to live long enough to make each of my family a piece of jewelry, since I have no children this will be something that will last far after I am gone from this earth.
Im 64 and so appreciate him
Im 66 so me too
Lana, I am one over the age of reason as well at more than 72. You can do it! I can make some things, but at our ages, not sure if I have the patience to finish them correctly.
Im 67 and so grateful for Andrews video and all the comments'. I feel like im too old to be starting this. My idea was to try to sell it. It takes years to become skilled at jewelry making. I probably dont have years as I nearly died 7 months ago from congestive heart failure. So to take some pressure off I decided to make as a hobby and if I can sell ,even better. Good luck to all you
Hi after spending 30 years as a steel fabricator, we used the same method as you to make steel rings, albeit on a much larger scale. Its so much quicker and less hassle. I naturally used the same technique when i started making jewellery, it was just logical. Carry on the good work and unfortunately there'll always be people out there who dont like being told they're wrong.
Don’t take any notice of the “negitive nellys”. We are lucky to have you help us Andrew, and we appreciate your helpful videos and time you take to educate us.
Negative nelly that killed me
Hi Andrew, I have come to this craft quite by accident. Three years ago I fell ill and was told I can no longer work, frankly at 58 there are not many telephone engineers still in the field, with the help of TH-cam I taught myself leather craft and wood carving whilst trying to find a way of making a living. I carved a couple of pendants from willow bark and went online for some tips on chains and jump rings and found a world of information about jewellry making and silversmithing. I have collected together a small tool kit, enhanced of course by my already large collection of adaptable tools, and I am now ready to begin. I came across your channel a couple of weeks ago and I have to say they are by far the best instructional videos I have seen on TH-cam to date. I will be attempting my first ring within the week, copper for practice, and I will be employing your method from the start so as to avoid bad habits developing. A big thank you for channel, I am learning loads and looking forward to putting it into practice. Jim.
i wish i knew how this fleshed out
Jim Benge You’re an inspiration! How’s it going...
I’m in the same boat. I was a Financial Manager and became disabled after an very bad fall. I’m even about the same age.
My wife and I opened an Etsy store last year.
LOL me too - Im 58 and just not able to make stained glass anymore - cant stand up to work or lift any weight these days so have moved onto jewellery - I just love Andrews candor and info packed deliveries - and bloopers he has at the end of a lot of vids.
@@Bonnie-sd7et Without mentioning the 'c' word, progress is delayed, however, I am still practicing the craft and improving. Frirnds and family are benefiting greatly. Haha.
I too was taught the original way...and was laughing at your not quite getting it right because that's been the story of my life...Andrew Berry you are a freakin' genius! No fuss no muss just getting that second ring made! ❤️
I am in awe haha.
Nice video! Got a LKD&SBSCRBLD from me
Im quite stunned that you would get online and offer people FREE tutorials, revealing what has taken decades for you to learn through painstaking trial and error.....and you offer that knowledge for FREE.....and STILL, people have the nerve to criticize your techniques, because they are maybe different from their own techniques...WOW
Well, I LOVE what you're teaching me, and I'm very thankful for your excellent tutelage.
Love this! I think this was the video that convinced me to subscribe to At The Bench. My instructor was horrified when I started using this method (doing it the "wrong" way), and pushed me to use the "traditional" method in class. I'm a newbie, frustrated, at making every mistake, not getting the edges to line up - though I really tried to get it right. I finally took the project home, and used the method you demo in this video - sawed through both ends in a single saw pass. The edges lined up - YES! - even though the cut was a bit wonky. I took the result back to class, showed it to my instructor; and after she told me it was really good, I told her how I did it. I also recommended your youtube channel to her and to the other students in my class.
I'm also a newbie to jewellery making but how lucky am I? Our instructor told us to WATCH Andrew Berry. I'm so greatful to Andrew and my teacher Deborah. A huge thank you Andrew.
My great-great grandfather was a goldsmith from Denmark. He settled in Bergen in Norway, where I was born. I am 74 years old soon and have now started to take an interest in the goldsmith trade, which seems very fascinating. Fun to follow your films. Thank you very much.
Bless you! I am one of those wonky filers. I have been so insanely frustrated. Feeling so discouraged. Feeling like a failure. I'm enrolled in a jewelry school. About to finish the 2nd term. This will help me tremendously! Thank you SOOO very much for having this channel and sharing your wisdom!
This is brilliant, I did a silversmith course using the old method and it was a nightmare getting the ends to meet, so much so it stopped me trying to learn more, now I’m going to restart using this method. Thanks so much Andrew.
I've experienced the SAME thing. Ended up wasting SO MUCH money buying little tools to help file a perfectly straight edge and STILL being frustrated... that I just completely lost interest in going any further (AND, feeling like a complete failure)! I've come back to it recently... passion ABLAZE, lol... hopefully this helps avoid the frustration that caused me to walk away in the first place! Thank you so much Andrew for sharing all of the info that you do. It TRULY IS appreciated!
I'm just about to make an 18k gold wedding band for a friend and am so glad I watched this video beforehand because I would have done it the other way. Did a few practice runs with silver and it makes perfect sense and works beautifully. Thank you Andrew for your expertise and years of experience. I have learned a lot from your tutelage. Warm regards, with gratitude.
KIA ORA from New Zealand and thank you! Your method makes a lot of sense, no fluffing, or frustration and I really appreciate your tutorials.
Andrew....my goodness...if I could give you a hug right now, golly would I!!!!! You haven't any idea the frustrating time I've suffered doing things the "old fashioned" way...even while reading the books and watching the tutorials I was thinking to myself "NO THIS ISNT WORKING" you literally have just saved me from almost giving up! It was getting THAT frustrating for me. Thank you SO MUCH. you HAVE made my life SO much better I am finally ENJOYING bezel setting....so so much. THANK YOU!
I am self taught, (but do come from a metalworking background) and your way of making rings is exactly what I've been doing. I have seen videos using the "original" way and just thought that seems like a long winded way of doing it. So seeing this I now know that I'm not doing it "wrong".
Dear Andrew, as a former second-level teacher for 41years, I have taken up jewellery making in the night school of my former school. I would like to compliment you on your superb teaching skills. The ability to explain processes and techniques, which are quite complex, in a very simple way, is absolutely wonderful. Congratulations! Many "teachers", who may be expert in their subject, never master the skill of explaining complex matters in a way that is accessible to those who are not already experts. You have that gift. Thank you for sharing with us.
With kindest regards,
Susie Hall
You are the Man!!! !....
I am so glad I found this video because I am a beginner and I have not yet learned any other way. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Andrew, thank you! I’m altering career paths in my forties and this is so helpful for a beginner.
I am an American and have been watching you off and on. Always try your way and find it is easy.
I am a retiree and my hobby is jewellery making and this video has made me so much more confident to make a ring as your way is so much easier thank you Andrew. Wendy
I can't belive people are actually using the D shape technique.
I am a professional silver and gold smith for only 2 years now. (by this I mean it is my oly source of income and I am making my living out of this).
I was thaught the old fashioned way and brief course (2 weeks) but as soon as I got my own workshop, I quicly figured out that the old way has some big flaws.
Then I figure out the way you show by my own and I thought to my self "well, I bet all jewelers around the world uses this method, it's far better".
Thanks Andrew for showing this, for there is no reason to struggle with the old way.
I love this method Andrew. It's so much like saw cut jump rings scaled up, no one would argue that one cut makes the best join there. I have used this to create a set of identical stacker rings, so quick and accurate. Thank you for all your videos, I've subscribed for some years now and have learned so much.
I am such an amateur. I have only been working with gold and silver for about 8 months as a hobby that I really appreciate and enjoy. I have worked with silver much more than gold due to the difference in cost and because I love the luster of silver. I am self taught and I find that doing a lot of research on different techniques and equipment saves time and money. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge as it has helped tremendously. Thank you.
I learned the ‘old’ method recently. Your way looks way easier and more accurate. I’m definitely going to try it for my next ring. Yay! No more wonky filed ends. Thanks 🙂
Don’t pay attention to those “pricks “ and their comments! Your videos and instructions are great : clear, very detailed and you show your way how you do it, whoever does it differently - they can make their own tutorials. I’m just finishing my beginners silversmith class and I like your way and technique much more then we were taught, but I’m not going to criticize what I’ve been taught , I just going to choose which technique I like and prefer better ! Please keep doing what you doing and teach us!
I saw this method taught by an Instructor from Rio Grande. Great minds must think alike. Love your work Andrew!
That is SO right on. I hate wasting time or cutting off excess, unnecessarily!! Beauty! Thanks!🙏🏼
Thanks Andrew. It's so great that as a self taught silversmith that I can learn the right way and straight away by watching you.
I'm just starting out and find these videos so valuable.
Thank you so much.
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27 and starting a company. Your videos help out a lot. Thank you 🙏🏾
This is brilliant, thank you. I have been so frustrated with the file-the-ends and saw-it-through method. It takes forever.
Brilliant. Simple. Logical. Inspiring. Thank you.
Brilliant! Saves time and major frustration, I’ve watched a lot of tutorials and you’re the first one to show it this way! Can’t thank you enough! Great teacher 😀
Thanks so much Andrew, can’t imagine how much time I’ll be saving from now onwards by watching your tutorials.
Brilliant. A circle is smaller on the inside and larger on the outside so with the D method the outside of the circle moves farther than the inside as you reshape from straight into the circle. The joint on the outside has farther to move which logically causes stress on the ring. Your method creates so much less stress particularly on a thick shank. I am fairly new to working with silver. I was troubled by that D shape but did not know a better way. Thank you so much.
I just watched this for the first time and was cracking up watching you demonstrate the 'old' way. I had just finished a ring yesterday messing about with all that filing trying to get the ends parallel; it took forever! Can't wait to try the 'new' and better way. Thanks!
Exactly what I needed. It was so frustrating with the old method, the size was never good! Can't wait to try this way, thank you Andrew! And thank you for all your videos in general, I learned more with you than in my old "famous" french paying school. Even in english I understand everything better with your courses!
I remember being taught to make jewelry in high school (waaaaaay back). We were taught the old-fashioned way of course and I remember having the frustrations you modeled in this video. Many many years later, I went to work in IT and we had a theory about implementing new software. The saying was "cheaper, faster, better -- pick 2." Likely, if its better, it won't be cheaper or faster to implement, and so on. This saying followed me around and was applicable to many things. RARELY have I ever been able to apply all 3 of those conditions. I have finally seen something that is all 3 things -- cheaper, faster and better. Why the hell didn't they figure this out years ago? Nicely demonstrated, and thank you.
Love this method! I have always struggled with getting my joints flush. I avoid making rings for this very reason. Now I can start perfecting this method and begin making rings to sell! Thank you Andrew!
By far your method is MUCH better, there is no argument about it. Saves you time and hassle and keeps the ring the right size.
OK, I'm sold. Especially seeing how easy it is to shape a wider ring. I make a lot of wide rings and, while I've never had a seam crack, I do have to fiddle a lot with them before soldering, to get the ends to join perfectly. This looks to be a great time saver, not to mention more neat and precise. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
As a total newbie, I'm so glad I found your videos first! Everything you explained made perfect sense. Thank you!
That was absolutely fabulous. I’m looking forward to trying this next time I make a ring. Thank you very much.
Andrew, thank you so very much for sharing your vast knowledge. I am starting out on my jewellery making journey at the age of 75 , I am so glad I have found you, your 10 best bench tool video has got me ordering and spending my children’s inheritance.
Best tip . Ignore the negative,life is too short, there is always a jealous person ready to put you down.
You are fabulous.
Oh.my.god. Andrew, this will save my hands!! I've been doing this for 5+ years. Thank you for this. Brilliant and so simple! No more D shape for me if I can help it!
Ty for this video. i just started doing jewelry part time and this will save me so much time. very practical and genius way to make rings. it does not take a 30 year jewelry smith to realize this is infact the best way to make a ring. I have done it the old way for years and it is painfully anoying. Please dont stop making these incredible tutorials
Love it. Almost like an engineer meets an artist.
Exactly. Well taught @AndrewBerry
Even though it's been a while since you posted your video, I'm thankful for your shared knowledge. I learned the old-school way over 25 years ago in college. My recent trip to Spain sparked my passion, and just a few weeks later, I found myself diving back in. I've been dealing with some challenges, but I knew there had to be a faster way to make rings. This is just amazing! Thank you for your expertise!!
Thank you Andrew. I've been a member of his site for a few years and absolutely love it. I view it as buying a wonderful tool and use it all the time. He is a wonderful instructor and well worth every cent it cost to join!!
Thank you for this wonderful video on how to make rings. Will try it out tomorrow and I am sure your method will work better than the old way.
What a wonderful channel. I've been making silver coin rings for a while, hammering and turning (a part of therapy). I stumbled into your casting with delft clay video with a desire to make sterling silver 20-sided dice and then saw this video. You've given me so many ideas just watching these two videos. I have so much to learn about all of this but you have inspired me with your confidence and professionalism. It's one thing to be skilled in a craft, but to hold the ability to inspire others to learn and create is truly an art. I have no formal education with metal work and have been looking for a teacher for answers. Thank you for making this available to me. I would love to see you make a 20-sided die. Before I ask for advice though, I will watch all of your videos. Thank you again!
Just last week my new jewelry instructor was shocked when she saw how I used the D method to make a ring! I couldn't understand her surprise, as I learned that method many years ago. She showed me your technique which she had learned at the Beijing Academy of Arts where she trained to be a jeweler. It makes much more sense.
Very informative film. Thank you Andrew. I am making rings your way because I watch your videos from many years ago. Is fast and reliable techniques. Thank you for your generosity to show for free so many useful things.
I'm brand new beginner, in fact, I haven't even started yet, however I can't wait to try this method! Every single tutorial I have watched shows the first method, the old fashioned way. Great tutorial!
This is fabulous. It will be called the AB method in my next class of new & old students on 9/12/2017. Thanks.
I love your method! Logical and practical. You are clear, so easy to understand, great sense of humor, a total pleasure to learn from!
I think your way is brilliant and cannot thank you enough for the priceless knowledge you graciously share with us!! As a beginner your way truly gave me the confidence to make my very first ring which came out perfectly thanks to your perfected method!!! I love your channel and again thank you so much!!!
Hi, as a novice, this is a fabulous way that even I could try. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Im loving watching and learning.
That's how I've been making rings for a few years now. Less waste especially using gold. Nice one Andrew
I’m new to jewellery making and I am so glad I have found you. This is genius. Thank you for taking time to pass on your knowledge.
Thanks, Andrew!
We were taught the original way on literally our first evening class, as the instructors had a long length of metal which they sawed to our specific requirements. It saved them metal and didn't force us noobs to wrestle a saw. Even with the forced wrangling to align the ends, we each had a soldered and polished ring by the second night - and we were all oohing and aahing over our accomplishments. ;) So I can see why the D-shape is taught to us hobbyists. I guess most of us don't revisit techniques we think we've learnt, even when we're swearing as we do them.
BEST FILM EVER!! The frustrating situation you've described was exactly what I was experiencing!! Thank you!!
THANK YOU ANDREW, YOUR VIDEO MAKE SO MUCH SENCE, I JUST RETIRED & WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO TO MAKE SOME MONEY, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE MY FIRST TIME, TO MAKE A RING I"M SO HAPPY I FOUND YOUR PAGE, AND I LEARN HOW TO MAKE IT THE QUICK & EASY WAY, JENNY MARTINEZ FROM THE ISLAND GUAM!!
I agree 100% with you about making the ring round before you solder it. I’m self-taught and figured this out for myself after a while.
Andrew (!!) You are plain old CORRECT!! Right on! And thank you times a zillion! One more metal making myth, BUSTED!
Thank you Andrew. After watching various methods of how to make a ring. FINALLY!!
I know why my solders won't hold!! And why my rings are not the size desired either( of course).
I just want beautifully crafted jewelry. You're going to get tired of me.😃😉😁🥰
Same way I make jump rings, always works perfectly!
I am learning and watching you do these two different ways show complete common sense to do it your way. You save time and money....Thank you.
Oh for goodness sake - so simple and it's a no brainer! I can't believe this isn't taught as the "norm"! Thank you Andrew.
I'm not a jewelry maker, or not the way you are, just wire wrapping, beading and stuff, for my wife, friends, for fun. Thank you for the video, I've learned from it. If anyone tells you that the first method is better, it's an idiot, don't waste your time on them. This video was a clear proof even for someone like me ;)
Thank you! I just started my jewelry making journey, and I've only taken a few classes. Since I'm stuck in the house during the covid 19 outbreak, I sourced some copper and brass, and I tried to make a few pieces. The ring drove me crazy. I'm going to try another ring tomorrow using your method. Thank you so much!
Thanks, i'm just learning by watching you and a few other ppl on youtube. gave me the confidence to buy tools and silver, to begin doing stuff for myself..
This method makes total sense! Thank you Andrew!
THE most useful thing I have learned EVER! I was just getting ready to make yet another ring, I have made many, but thought there may be a better way. Thank You.
Love it, thank you. I never could get mine without filing, and most of the time it would be off anyway.
Thanks for an excellent and very thorough video. Your method saves time and money, and most importantly to me, saves frustration.
Andrew Recently I have become interested in making jewelry and have made a few rings in cooper for practice without seeing this video and your method for making a ring. I have however seen the “old time” method of making a ring and personally thought it did not make any sense. The only thing that I could figure with the “old fashion” method of making rings is that when that method was developed saw blades were wider and cut a ragged kerf thus requiring the filing to fit method. That all said without seeing this video I have been sawing though my solder joint like you demonstrated because that is how I cut butt joints for wood and also aluminum, copper, and brass sheet work.
That is a fantastically elegant way to make a ring, can't wait to try it. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I am very new to Metalsmithing. I recently tried making a couple of rings the old way and it was nothing but a trial of frustration. I could not get a flush end whatsoever to be able to get a solid soldering seam. I can't wait to try your way. Your generosity is very appreciated with teaching newbies this technique.
I for 1:00 a.m. absolutely appreciative of what you're showing in this Video because it looks so much easier so much quicker much cleaner and I hope you continue to impart that knowledge on those skills that you have mastered thank you
It just makes more sense to have the ring round before soldering. I was taught the wrong way and it really is the wrong way. Is a real struggle to make it round after soldering that ridiculous "oval" shape. This really is just common sense. Thanks Andrew!
The “D” shape does allow the ring to stand without a third hand to solder.
@@marciabb7684 He solders his lying flat, so no third hand required. But it seems he uses a lot more solder than required, which does require a bit more clean-up.
This is when intelligence meets tools! Bravo!
This is genius. I've been struggling with learning how to make a good joint and solder it well, and I think this will help. Would this method also apply to making bezels? I would think so?
Thank you Andrew for presenting this technique in the last two films.
I've done it with the classic "D" technique, and even as a novice wondered if there wasn't an easier, more efficient way. The idea of approaching it the same way one would approach sawing jumprings... makes better sense to me.
Thanks again.
It is obviously the way to go! Why would anyone have a problem with doing something better and quicker? Thanks for the knowledge!
Oh my goodness! Brilliant! As a new silversmith, I will only make my silver rings using your method. Thank you bunches!
totally agree with this excellent video - what a gift you are!
Hello, I think you are absolutely right! In a way the same method is used by making little rings (folding the silver wire around a pencil, then cut through all the rings in one time and you have little lose rings. You can start solding them inmediately because they were cut in the same angle). Haven't thought about making rings like this as well, but now I am. Thank you for your video! ❤
I'm fairly new to metalsmithing and I can even see the benefit to your way Andrew. One of the most difficult things for me so far has been to file straight edges. You are right about losing length as well which means incorrect size and more work/time. It really comes down to common sense and of course your 30 years of experience. A doctor friend of mine once told me that you're considered an expert after you've performed a task over 10,000 times. You're an expert, just saying, :o) and quite frankly I'm grateful to you for sharing your knowledge with the Artisan community. I have several ring orders I have to start this weekend and I'll be doing it your way! What do I have to lose---OH, yes....more precious metal and time if I keep doing the frustrating D thingy'. I think I might time myself doing it both ways too, just to see how it goes. Let the nay-sayers keep making the D thingy,' some people have to do everything the hard way. Thank you again for taking the time to make the videos and for sharing your invaluable knowledge and experience!
How can I cast a gents ring using the sand system you used to cast a gold ball
If you do it 10 0000 times without learning or improving the technique thats an old hand but not necessarily an expert.. AB is right and its just the kind of inherent efficiency you wouldv hoped generations of mastery would have evolved towards. In the end its down to an individual innovator to finesse the method. Long may they be heeded and sooner rewarded.
Only watched this last night. I only started making rings last week, in copper. Tried making a spinner ring, but the amount of filling I had to do, well....... so it came up very small! But re made it yesterday and cut the spinner part out as you suggested and didn’t need to do any filing. So great information for a beginner. Thank you.
Your technique is logical. Unfortunately far too many people have no comprehension of logic, even less have common sense. I only wish both you and You Tube videos had been around thirty years ago. Far too many teaching any subject, refuse to change their methods or heaven forbid, be corrected. Even though it would benefit the students in the long run. Most times the battle is against ego.
Lyn R unfortunately ego controls the corrupt world we live in. We should all live above the ego and we would benefit beyond belief. Wishful thinking
Gotta love those comment experts thinking they know better than the actual expert lol.
I love all your tips. I'm still a beginner, and I've taken only 2 metals classes, but you're teaching me a lot. It never hurts to know how to do things multiple ways either!
I know annealing silver makes it softer. How do you harden silver when making a ring?
I can't believe it. Fifteen years ago I tooka silver class, and were taught the same old way. I was so embarrassed I could not file the ends straight to save my life. I left every class crying, my ring just kept breaking. Then, I tried a different way - ignoring my instructor's frown - I tried a flat fie BETWEEN the ends and finally got the ends to meet. It eventually cracked again when I had the bezel all done and the stone set. I had to leave before the classes were done for family reasons, and never found another class in all this tie but I was so discouraged I am not sure I would hae had the courage tohave the same frustrating failue in front of another class. And then, completely serendipitously, I stumbled upon this video. This saw idea - I can do that!
Of course, I have everything but the metals, yet I am now excited again about the whole thing. Thank you so much, I hope everyone else is paying attention, and now I'm going to watch ALL the videos!
Peace, from Abigail in NH
I'm in a class right now and my next graded project is creating a ring. I am glad I watched this first. Brilliant method. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. :)
Love the way you teach this is the only way I make my rings now. Haters are going to hate keep it up because you are brilliant!!!
I love your way of teaching. You have a wonderful way of explaining things so that it's easy to understand and apply what I've learned from you. I think your way is the best way I've just started trying to learn to make jewelry on my own by watching videos like yours. I've tried using the solder paste and it really didn't work very well for me. And I didn't think I would be able to find someone using anything else on here. Until I finally came across your videos thank God! I can't wait to learn more from you. Thanks for sharing all your wonderful techniques.
Makes perfect sense. Thanks Andrew I am one of those lopsided saw cutters and this will be my method from now on. Just brilliant
BLESS YOUR HEART! I had just ordered my torch, brick, stand, etc. Yours was the FIRST video I watched on making rings, and I'm so excited about it now! It doesn't look so complicated and difficult with YOUR method versus the old way. THANK YOU!
Your new method is fantastic. Thank you for teaching us "hobby" jewelers.
I have never filed a piece of metal, but this just makes sense. I can't believe that anyone would disagree with you.
Hello Andrew I used your technique before I watched your first video and I was very happy you shared it 👋🙂
Brilliant method. Thank you so much.